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Quote from: altsheets on February 05, 2016, 01:03:00 PM

Quote from: Emerger on February 04, 2016, 10:38:16 AM

... I have (slowly) been developing the HZcharts site at http://hzcharts.coin.emergate.net ...

I am actually opening that page almost every day, really useful for me to have a quick look. Thanks again for this great tool.

I have just purchased a bit more of your asset 17035415330002870030 ("HZCHARTS") to support you, Emerger.
Keep up the good work!

Thank you! Wish I could dedicate more time to it so I'm glad it's useful in it's current form.

Just FYI I was very impressed with your recent node analysis and picked up a bunch of your AAssetHZ a few weeks ago.

I would obviously love to see more initiatives like ours in the HZ space.

altsheets

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Quote from: markm on February 04, 2016, 10:42:08 AM

... discovering assets via an API? ...

Yes ... check out the plethora of AE functions: http://localhost:7776/test?requestTag=AE

Especially this one might be interesting for you: http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAllAssets
For a full manual, check out the NXT wiki http://nxtwiki.org/wiki/The_Nxt_API#Asset_Exchange_Operations

To see through that data jungle, I suggest you get a good REST client that can nicely format JSON data,
e.g. https://www.google.de/search?q=RESTMan or https://github.com/jarrodek/ChromeRestClient
(and then you simply paste the requestType=... URLs into that client)

There has also always been this page https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=assets for which
I proudly contributed such pages https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=asset&id=8101260088962758269

If you are into coding, but just do not know how to talk to an API,
you can soon buy a perfect Python tutorial from me - contact me.
I have presented it in a cool, didactive way, stepwise explaining all the ingredients,
so that even Python newbies are easily able to learn how to work with the NXT/HZ API.
Once you know how to talk to APIs, your life will change *g*. Well worth the money.

Quote from: Emerger on February 04, 2016, 10:38:16 AM

... I have (slowly) been developing the HZcharts site at http://hzcharts.coin.emergate.net ...

I am actually opening that page almost every day, really useful for me to have a quick look. Thanks again for this great tool.

I have just purchased a bit more of your asset 17035415330002870030 ("HZCHARTS") to support you, Emerger.
Keep up the good work!

Emerger

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Quote from: markm on February 04, 2016, 10:42:08 AM

So evidently there is support for discovering assets via an API?

Which would presumably mean at some point the client could be taught to use that API itself to make such discovery available to its users?

Also presumably if I were to create an asset it will be discovered by sites such as yours so folks will be able to learn that it exists and what URL I keep details about it at?

-MarkM-

Yes. Though I think not showing all assets in the client was a choice made by the NXT developers (they seem to have some of that discussion here). Perhaps they chose not to show all assets in the client as they didn't want to show potential scam or spam assets. As HZ is based on NXT, it's inherited this choice. Especially as asset names are not unique (only known by their asset ID#), it's understandable.

Before creating an asset you should definitely read up about it. For instance, once you start an asset, you can't change the asset name or description (which may contain your URL you keep details about it). Not sure if HZ provide information about creating assets or not? but NXT's information can be found at http://nxtwiki.org/wiki/Asset_Exchange

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So evidently there is support for discovering assets via an API?

Which would presumably mean at some point the client could be taught to use that API itself to make such discovery available to its users?

Also presumably if I were to create an asset it will be discovered by sites such as yours so folks will be able to learn that it exists and what URL I keep details about it at?

-MarkM-

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Quote from: markm on February 04, 2016, 10:31:48 AM

Is there some script or something that can extract/discover asset info from the blockchain?

Even if most of the info about an asset is at some URL specified by the asset it would be useful to be able to find out what assets even exist so that one could then go to their website or whatever to learn what the asset is about.

In the client I seem to be expected to already know the ID of an asset, but there seems not to be a way of obtaining a list of what asset IDs actually exist?

Is there nothing in the blackchain that lets you discover assets? I thought I saw some kind of asset explorer, but if that is some kind of third party thing that is not blockchain-driven wouldn't we be at the mercy of such "centralised" sites, unable to discover assets that they choose not to inform us of?

How do they themselves discover assets? Is there an asset discovery script one can get from github or somesuch if one wanted to run such a site or even just use one's own at home to discover assets so as not to rely upon some third party?

Is it planned to add to the assets part of the client something that can find the volumes and such, find new assets for you and such?

-MarkM-

I have (slowly) been developing the HZcharts site at http://hzcharts.coin.emergate.net Not as polished as some of the tools you'll find for NXT, but it gives an overview of HZ assets. It simply uses the HZ api to extract the data.

markm

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Is there some script or something that can extract/discover asset info from the blockchain?

Even if most of the info about an asset is at some URL specified by the asset it would be useful to be able to find out what assets even exist so that one could then go to their website or whatever to learn what the asset is about.

In the client I seem to be expected to already know the ID of an asset, but there seems not to be a way of obtaining a list of what asset IDs actually exist?

Is there nothing in the blackchain that lets you discover assets? I thought I saw some kind of asset explorer, but if that is some kind of third party thing that is not blockchain-driven wouldn't we be at the mercy of such "centralised" sites, unable to discover assets that they choose not to inform us of?

How do they themselves discover assets? Is there an asset discovery script one can get from github or somesuch if one wanted to run such a site or even just use one's own at home to discover assets so as not to rely upon some third party?

Is it planned to add to the assets part of the client something that can find the volumes and such, find new assets for you and such?

-MarkM-

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Will trade the Horizon on the shapeshift.io exchange?

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Quote from: pharesim on February 02, 2016, 03:30:20 PM

I realized that a couple of weeks ago too. I think it's because they had a valid hallmark once. With one of the updates I didn't renew it because I didn't care about the bounty.
If you want you can test if that's the reason, remove the hallmark from a working node and see if payouts continue. But remember that the script is not supported any more and will keep running as-is.

Why should cbkr hardcode my servers into his script? The speculations on here are as ridiculous as always Cheesy

//edit:
Hell, even if he did, the nodes are up and running.
I can understand that this scene fosters paranoia because everyone tries to rip off each other, but you're near to a clinical condition. In my 4 years here I never played foul, still I have to reply to accusations from shitards like you. Go see a doctor.

Take it easy! The explanation sounds ok.
How about when you set the Hallmark again?

By the way, currently there are 364 active nodes, 8 without hallmark (5 paid today) and 1 node with invalid hallmark (also paid today).

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I realized that a couple of weeks ago too. I think it's because they had a valid hallmark once. With one of the updates I didn't renew it because I didn't care about the bounty.
If you want you can test if that's the reason, remove the hallmark from a working node and see if payouts continue. But remember that the script is not supported any more and will keep running as-is.

Why should cbkr hardcode my servers into his script? The speculations on here are as ridiculous as always Cheesy

//edit:
Hell, even if he did, the nodes are up and running.
I can understand that this scene fosters paranoia because everyone tries to rip off each other, but you're near to a clinical condition. In my 4 years here I never played foul, still I have to reply to accusations from shitards like you. Go see a doctor.

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Quote from: duncan_idaho on February 02, 2016, 07:32:22 AM

I have one question.

Why Phaerism account get much more node bounty than normal user

https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=account&id=446841167369702212

This payments are x2 bigger than normal.

No, thats ok. pharesim has two nodes:
85.214.65.220 and 78.46.32.4

But there is another problem: Normally, he should not receive payments, because the nodes have not a valid hallmark.
The hallmark is requirement for node bounties, because it links the node with an account.

Code:

curl -H "Content-Type: application/json" -d '{"protocol":1,"requestType":"getInfo"}' 85.214.65.220:7774/nhz
{"application":"NRS","version":"NHZ V5.4","platform":"PC","shareAddress":true}

curl -H "Content-Type: application/json" -d '{"protocol":1,"requestType":"getInfo"}' 78.46.32.4:7774/nhz
{"application":"NRS","version":"NHZ V5.4","platform":"PC","shareAddress":true}

Seams that pharesims account is hardcoded in the payout script.
Now everyone can imagine his part.

By the way, a valid hallmark looks like that:

Code:

curl -H "Content-Type: application/json" -d '{"protocol":1,"requestType":"getInfo"}' 185.38.44.174:7774/nhz
{"hallmark":"60987409fa83bc8cadc521842637367e31211a08f44730ebc57aa53b2bf8a41f0d003138352e33382e34342e313734640000008a2d33016d4bb7e6b8f15aac920ea89586e6e5d33452b95422396c55f8b313ddc0f4868f0849218a4ccadac77efe08951faa4b3cd2ba9134e1d917a19d1e19e4831eb4357a","announcedAddress":"185.38.44.174","application":"NRS","version":"NHZ V5.4","platform":"vps69","shareAddress":true}

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I have one question.

Why Phaerism account get much more node bounty than normal user

https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=account&id=446841167369702212

This payments are x2 bigger than normal.

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Quote from: NASdaq on January 28, 2016, 08:19:21 PM

Is the node bounty system finished now? Are node numbers holding up?

Currently there are 140 nodes, they share the approximately 160000 HZ bounties.

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Quote from: altsheets on January 28, 2016, 11:51:38 AM

Many many altcoin markets have been crazy bullish in the past days.
Dunno why (tell me if you know), but looks like #altsareback and waking up.

I say that because I guess if HZ showed some upwards impulse now, then the
probability would be non-zero ... that other market participants would join in.

lots of money is being made in eth and dash... now the wealth is being distributed Wink

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Quote from: ropyu1978 on January 29, 2016, 02:02:37 AM

where can trade?

Poloniex.

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_hz

It's cheap now..

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where can trade?

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Is the node bounty system finished now? Are node numbers holding up?

altsheets

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Many many altcoin markets have been crazy bullish in the past days.
Dunno why (tell me if you know), but looks like #altsareback and waking up.

I say that because I guess if HZ showed some upwards impulse now, then the
probability would be non-zero ... that other market participants would join in.

Nxtblg

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Quote from: JPred on January 27, 2016, 03:11:30 PM

Look at big bro NXT, not to mention lotsa other alts - only today at current time: up already 28% hah...seems like HZ left in the dust.

These things happen. There was a time when HZ was leaping up and Nxt was languishing. The wheel of fortune keep on turning.

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my magic is growing strong[er]

Look at big bro NXT, not to mention lotsa other alts - only today at current time: up already 28% hah...seems like HZ left in the dust.

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What happened to HZ why the price is low?

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