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hero member
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July 06, 2015, 09:05:53 AM
That would have been most useful.  Smiley    edit. nevermind I will probably try and get to grips with all the things you mentioned over a week or so.  Thanks again.
legendary
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July 06, 2015, 09:00:45 AM
Its working!

Happy.

You made it!

Now you can

Thanks for all your help.  
You are welcome.

How long does it take to sync before I can progress further?
You'll watch the progress in BLOCKS, the height of the chain is 390189 now.

Also, to clarify, Whenever I want to access my wallet I have to start hz v3.9.1 right?
Wit for it connect and then log into 127.0.0.1:7776.  Correct?
Finally, the desktop wallet actually open in a browser yes?
All correct.

Perhaps a future NRS could display the message

Quote
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Nhz server NHZ V3.9.1 started successfully.
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Do not close this NRS while you forge or access the wallet.

That could help to avoid such pitfalls?


Consider to GIVEBACK. Thx
hero member
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July 06, 2015, 08:47:01 AM
Its working!  Thanks for all your help.  How long does it take to sync before I can progress further?

Also, to clarify, Whenever I want to access my wallet I have to start hz v3.9.1 right?

Wait for it connect and then log into 127.0.0.1:7776.  Correct?

Finally, the desktop wallet actually opens in a browser yes?
legendary
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July 06, 2015, 08:41:54 AM
...
From tomorrow on it will pay out 0.5% of the undistributed amount each day.
Clever choice. That will stretch it too infinity. And beyond :-)
Not really, we won't end up at a round 1B at the end because of fees and things we may have overlooked when calculating the distribution stuff.
Will do some calculations myself when I find the time.

But at least it will run out gradually, not suddenly at once.
That is the the clever choice I meant.

And when less new money is flushed into the system in the future,
there is a likelihood that less selling pressure alone could already
mean rising HZ/BTC prices (apart from all other positive influences).
And then it is still economic to run nodes even with lower node bounty in HZ.

Especially at rising BTC/USD prices - whew now 275 USD, cool.

With 0.00000097 BTC/HZ * today's nodebounty 351.43720408 HZ
--> 2.81 USD per month for running a hallmarked node right now.


The links have been in the old design of the explorer, but got lost with james's redesign
Easy to put 4 links again on the graph page.
Perhaps below the "...and selecting your desired format." ?


Perfect, that is exactly what I had hoped for. Very cool.

Will look into the numbers, perhaps in a few days.

Thanks!
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July 06, 2015, 08:35:02 AM
Wow!  Thanks for the indepth reply.  I will double check everything.  Sorry for being so dim!
legendary
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July 06, 2015, 08:20:34 AM
I have a dozen other Crypto wallets on my mac and never had these problems before.
Remember you first day in crypto. To get the very first wallet running, was still a bit new, right?
After that probably all your following different cryptos were just clones of Bitcoin. All same same.

This one is a new start, a completely different approach.

I am still having problems.  I now get this:

2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started API server at 127.0.0.1:7776
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started peer networking server at 0.0.0.0:7774
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Initialization took 35 seconds
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Nhz server NHZ V3.9.1 started successfully.

Is that normal?  Where is my actual wallet?   I am not technical so an idiot guide would be great.
yes, totally normal, looking good.
You now have wallet access through webpages on that local server on  127.0.0.1:7776

"Nhz server NHZ V3.9.1 started successfully." - That looks perfect.

"Started API server at 127.0.0.1:7776" - that is where this NHZ NRS is listening to your webbrowser requests.


You kept the "NHZ NRS" window open, right?!!!

The NRS is the "back end" of the system, it has to continue to run, for wallet access, or forging.

If you are sure that have no proxy settings in the way, then perhaps you have httpsanywhere in your browsers?
The browser can not go to https://127.0.0.1:7776 it has to go to http://127.0.0.1:7776


Oh well.  I don't know why its not compiling properly.
You do not actually have to compile anything.

Just start the NRS - and you have done that.
Your message above says that all is fine.

I know but for my purposes, I wanted the desktop or nothing.  

By what I understand now,
all passphrase entering happens only locally in the browser anyway,
your passphrase does not leave your browser.

So local wallet, and webwallet do not differ that much as in other technologies.

But I still understand that you feel safer with your own desktop NRS.

What about giving the webwallet a try, first with a test address, then you know better what to expect.
And then you solve your local wallet issues. How does that sound?

http://account.horizonplatform.io
sr. member
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July 06, 2015, 08:11:26 AM
Just to make sure you got that right - there's no "wallet" in the traditional sense. All you need is your passphrase, you can access your account with it no matter which client/node you use.
When you use an online wallet the passphrase is not sent to the remote server, transaction signing is done in your browser.
newbie
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July 06, 2015, 08:10:51 AM
I just feel its safer having it on my mac rather than online.  If nobody can offer a solution I might consider it but as I said, I would prefer a wallet on my mac.  Thanks for all your help.  Any other suggestions would be welcome.

2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started API server at 127.0.0.1:7776
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started peer networking server at 0.0.0.0:7774
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Initialization took 35 seconds
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Nhz server NHZ V3.9.1 started successfully.

You NHZ server is working correctly. The problem is in localhost accessibility. It could be firewall if not proxy...
hero member
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July 06, 2015, 07:52:43 AM
I just feel its safer having it on my mac rather than online.  If nobody can offer a solution I might consider it but as I said, I would prefer a wallet on my mac.  Thanks for all your help.  Any other suggestions would be welcome.
sr. member
Activity: 423
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July 06, 2015, 07:40:55 AM
...  I guess I will have to skip the world of NHZ for now.  Sad  ...

You don't need to run your own node to use HZ. There's the web wallet for transactions and forging pools you can lease your balance to.
hero member
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July 06, 2015, 06:44:32 AM
Thanks for the tip.  I  did that and get this:

Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 127.0.0.1:7776.

    The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
    If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.
    If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.


I have tried on different browsers but with the same result.  I guess I will have to skip the world of NHZ for now.  Sad   Oh well.  Thanks for trying.

Do you use a proxy to access the internet? If yes, please check the proxy configuration. localhost (127.0.0.1) must not be routed through the proxy.

No proxy.  Just normal connection.  So there are 2 problems here, 1. it does not compile and 2, the connection problems.  I have a dozen other Crypto wallets on my mac and never had these problems before. It must be some setting or something.  I don't know  Sigh.
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July 06, 2015, 06:38:38 AM
Hi pharesim,

can you please add the total node count to the message? With the new distribution method the total amount of distributed HZ per day is  difficult to determine.

The fee of a transaction is equal to the number of nodes it is paid for.


Ok, so I just get the number of payments made.
But I would like to have the number of nodes that should be paid for.
Alternatively the height of the "remaining distribution" would be ok, which was the basis for the calculation of payment amount.

1B - https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/api.php?page=distributed

This is not really usable:
04-07-2015; 10:00 UTC; distributed 851,251,064
05-07-2015; 14:00 UTC; distributed 861,099,671 -> Difference from prev. day: 9,848,607
06-07-2015; 07:35 UTC; distributed 863,884,156 -> Difference from prev. day: 2,784,485

The change per day is too much. Which time should I use?
The distribution changed from Saturday to Sunday at almost 10 million. Of these, about 9 million HZ !!! were no node bounties.
I need the "remaining distribution", which was the basis for the calculation of payment amount.
hero member
Activity: 601
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July 06, 2015, 06:22:44 AM
Thanks for the tip.  I  did that and get this:

Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 127.0.0.1:7776.

    The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
    If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.
    If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.


I have tried on different browsers but with the same result.  I guess I will have to skip the world of NHZ for now.  Sad   Oh well.  Thanks for trying.

Do you use a proxy to access the internet? If yes, please check the proxy configuration. localhost (127.0.0.1) must not be routed through the proxy.
sr. member
Activity: 423
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July 06, 2015, 06:21:26 AM
Hi pharesim,

can you please add the total node count to the message? With the new distribution method the total amount of distributed HZ per day is  difficult to determine.

The fee of a transaction is equal to the number of nodes it is paid for.


Ok, so I just get the number of payments made.
But I would like to have the number of nodes that should be paid for.
Alternatively the height of the "remaining distribution" would be ok, which was the basis for the calculation of payment amount.

1B - https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/api.php?page=distributed
hero member
Activity: 771
Merit: 521
July 06, 2015, 06:18:55 AM
I know but for my purposes, I wanted the desktop or nothing.  Oh well.  I don't know why its not compiling properly.
newbie
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July 06, 2015, 06:13:47 AM
Thanks for the tip.  I  did that and get this:

Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 127.0.0.1:7776.

    The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
    If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.
    If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.


I have tried on different browsers but with the same result.  I guess I will have to skip the world of NHZ for now.  Sad   Oh well.  Thanks for trying.

you can use web wallet http://nexthorizon.github.io/hz-source/
hero member
Activity: 771
Merit: 521
July 06, 2015, 06:03:52 AM
Thanks for the tip.  I  did that and get this:

Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 127.0.0.1:7776.

    The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
    If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.
    If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.


I have tried on different browsers but with the same result.  I guess I will have to skip the world of NHZ for now.  Sad   Oh well.  Thanks for trying.
newbie
Activity: 35
Merit: 0
July 06, 2015, 05:44:51 AM
I am still having problems.  I now get this:

2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started API server at 127.0.0.1:7776
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started peer networking server at 0.0.0.0:7774
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Initialization took 35 seconds
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Nhz server NHZ V3.9.1 started successfully.


Is that normal?  Where is my actual wallet?   I am not technical so an idiot guide would be great.


type http://127.0.0.1:7776/index.html in your browser
hero member
Activity: 771
Merit: 521
July 06, 2015, 05:17:57 AM
I am still having problems.  I now get this:

2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started API server at 127.0.0.1:7776
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started peer networking server at 0.0.0.0:7774
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Initialization took 35 seconds
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Nhz server NHZ V3.9.1 started successfully.


Is that normal?  Where is my actual wallet?   I am not technical so an idiot guide would be great.
hero member
Activity: 601
Merit: 500
July 06, 2015, 04:01:57 AM
Hi pharesim,

can you please add the total node count to the message? With the new distribution method the total amount of distributed HZ per day is  difficult to determine.

The fee of a transaction is equal to the number of nodes it is paid for.


Ok, so I just get the number of payments made.
But I would like to have the number of nodes that should be paid for.
Alternatively the height of the "remaining distribution" would be ok, which was the basis for the calculation of payment amount.
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