0.2 FEE!!!! ? am i missing something? - page 3.

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Quote from: Panthers52 on August 09, 2014, 04:36:32 PM

Quote from: DannyElfman on August 09, 2014, 03:34:41 PM

Quote from: BTCreward on August 09, 2014, 02:28:58 PM

Quote from: DumDumz on August 09, 2014, 02:14:20 PM

i dont understand how to find the block, the miner, and then contacting them assuming i acquire all this info

There is no real way to find the miner. The miner in question sent the blockreward to an "unknown" address so no one really knows which pool the block was mined on; it was probably someone who was solo mining with a lot of hashpower.

This address is very famous, as it has a big chunk of the network hash. The guesses in the forum are pretty educated and if OP does contact them and proves he is holder of the private key, there is a good chance he gets it back!

It has a small percentage of the hashrate when compared to most pools. AFAIK no one really knows the identity behind the address.

Yep compared to pools but still enought % of blocks and hash to become multi-milionare.

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This is one of the more interesting threads on this board. This shows how mining can be extra profitable at times

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I doubt it will do you any good, but please post here just in case: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lost-found-accidental-transactions-and-fee-recovery-733875

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I've sort of let it go for now, once i get another few minutes to follow up on this mistake of mine I will, but like others said, i could earn it back faster than tracking it down. realistically i have enough time to earn it back and track it down MotherF*krs!!! Sry its late..

This thread is fascinating, I am shocked at the response it has received.

I have contacted ghash, they responded with a "we dont know, sorry, wish we could help you further but we cant good luck"

as for bitfury, still no response.

As for others I have yet to contact.

And can someone elaborate a bit more on how I send a small tx with a message to the miner who mined that block... My understanding of bitcoin says that is nearly impossible but I am no expert..

I will say this, it would be cool as heck if i got it back, but I have lost and made hundreds of thousands of dollars in my life, so this is just one more little lesson a long the way.

Thank you guys for such an overwhelming response...

Now if any of you would like to help a lost cause.... 19E8Jx1adTUbonp3Y3RAGXgkDjkiW32Cif Wink

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Quote from: BTCreward on August 09, 2014, 02:28:58 PM

Quote from: DumDumz on August 09, 2014, 02:14:20 PM

i dont understand how to find the block, the miner, and then contacting them assuming i acquire all this info

There is no real way to find the miner. The miner in question sent the blockreward to an "unknown" address so no one really knows which pool the block was mined on; it was probably someone who was solo mining with a lot of hashpower.

If it is unknown, it's most likely ASICMiner that mined the block. They're currently ramping up tens of PH/s new hashing power in order to capture 20% of the total network! I think they're solo-mining on secret new addresses, therefore we don't know that it's them by now. He should try and contact baked cat.

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Quote from: DannyElfman on August 09, 2014, 05:53:08 PM

Quote from: Panthers52 on August 09, 2014, 04:36:32 PM

Quote from: DannyElfman on August 09, 2014, 03:34:41 PM

Quote from: BTCreward on August 09, 2014, 02:28:58 PM

Quote from: DumDumz on August 09, 2014, 02:14:20 PM

i dont understand how to find the block, the miner, and then contacting them assuming i acquire all this info

There is no real way to find the miner. The miner in question sent the blockreward to an "unknown" address so no one really knows which pool the block was mined on; it was probably someone who was solo mining with a lot of hashpower.

This address is very famous, as it has a big chunk of the network hash. The guesses in the forum are pretty educated and if OP does contact them and proves he is holder of the private key, there is a good chance he gets it back!

It has a small percentage of the hashrate when compared to most pools. AFAIK no one really knows the identity behind the address.

It has 6% now and had around that rate for weeks now (even months if the found links are correct)

Even a 5% or a 6% hashrate is pretty small. The fact that they are essentially solo mining likely means that they wish to remain anon and value their privacy. I would say that they are likely mining for financial reasons as opposed to an interest in BTC or wanting to help the network. Looking at the address history I do see some inputs that are from the ghash mining address so it is possible that they are mining on ghash as well. The OP could contact ghash to see if they can try to get contact info for the address, but I think that would be a long shot at best as ghash also values privacy.

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Quote from: Panthers52 on August 09, 2014, 04:36:32 PM

Quote from: DannyElfman on August 09, 2014, 03:34:41 PM

Quote from: BTCreward on August 09, 2014, 02:28:58 PM

Quote from: DumDumz on August 09, 2014, 02:14:20 PM

i dont understand how to find the block, the miner, and then contacting them assuming i acquire all this info

There is no real way to find the miner. The miner in question sent the blockreward to an "unknown" address so no one really knows which pool the block was mined on; it was probably someone who was solo mining with a lot of hashpower.

This address is very famous, as it has a big chunk of the network hash. The guesses in the forum are pretty educated and if OP does contact them and proves he is holder of the private key, there is a good chance he gets it back!

It has a small percentage of the hashrate when compared to most pools. AFAIK no one really knows the identity behind the address.

It has 6% now and had around that rate for weeks now (even months if the found links are correct)

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Quote from: DannyElfman on August 09, 2014, 03:34:41 PM

Quote from: BTCreward on August 09, 2014, 02:28:58 PM

Quote from: DumDumz on August 09, 2014, 02:14:20 PM

i dont understand how to find the block, the miner, and then contacting them assuming i acquire all this info

There is no real way to find the miner. The miner in question sent the blockreward to an "unknown" address so no one really knows which pool the block was mined on; it was probably someone who was solo mining with a lot of hashpower.

This address is very famous, as it has a big chunk of the network hash. The guesses in the forum are pretty educated and if OP does contact them and proves he is holder of the private key, there is a good chance he gets it back!

I don't think it is quite famous enough so that most people know who it belongs to. If you look on blockchain.info it says "unknown ...address" so they don't really know who it belongs to.

This is a stretch but the OP could send a .0001 TX to the address with a message asking the owner of the address to contact him, it is a long should and the OP would likely get a lot of spam but IMO it is worth a shot.

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Quote from: DannyElfman on August 09, 2014, 03:34:41 PM

Quote from: BTCreward on August 09, 2014, 02:28:58 PM

Quote from: DumDumz on August 09, 2014, 02:14:20 PM

i dont understand how to find the block, the miner, and then contacting them assuming i acquire all this info

There is no real way to find the miner. The miner in question sent the blockreward to an "unknown" address so no one really knows which pool the block was mined on; it was probably someone who was solo mining with a lot of hashpower.

This address is very famous, as it has a big chunk of the network hash. The guesses in the forum are pretty educated and if OP does contact them and proves he is holder of the private key, there is a good chance he gets it back!

It has a small percentage of the hashrate when compared to most pools. AFAIK no one really knows the identity behind the address.

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Quote from: BTCreward on August 09, 2014, 02:28:58 PM

Quote from: DumDumz on August 09, 2014, 02:14:20 PM

i dont understand how to find the block, the miner, and then contacting them assuming i acquire all this info

There is no real way to find the miner. The miner in question sent the blockreward to an "unknown" address so no one really knows which pool the block was mined on; it was probably someone who was solo mining with a lot of hashpower.

This address is very famous, as it has a big chunk of the network hash. The guesses in the forum are pretty educated and if OP does contact them and proves he is holder of the private key, there is a good chance he gets it back!

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Quote from: DumDumz on August 09, 2014, 02:14:20 PM

i dont understand how to find the block, the miner, and then contacting them assuming i acquire all this info

There is no real way to find the miner. The miner in question sent the blockreward to an "unknown" address so no one really knows which pool the block was mined on; it was probably someone who was solo mining with a lot of hashpower.

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i dont understand how to find the block, the miner, and then contacting them assuming i acquire all this info

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Quote from: BowieMan on August 09, 2014, 02:04:24 PM

Quote from: DannyElfman on August 09, 2014, 01:57:24 PM

Quote from: BowieMan on August 09, 2014, 01:55:17 PM

Quote from: needFREElunch on August 09, 2014, 01:47:59 PM

Quote from: wasserman99 on August 08, 2014, 08:19:36 PM

Quote from: BitcoinMillionaire on August 08, 2014, 03:28:17 PM

Quote from: BTCewdquestion on August 06, 2014, 11:01:00 AM

did i just lose a .2btc transaction because the fee was set at .2btc?

Aww man, I'm so sorry reading that!! Things can be confusing in advanced settings, yeah... Better just stick to the regular send-feature! I once almost screwed up with those long Bitcoin addresses. Mixed up a few numbers or letters. It was already pretty late and I was out partying!

It is really not possible in practice to mess up typing a BTC address. Your wallet program would likely not allow it, as if you make a typo it would most likely show up as being an invalid address. What could happen, and does somewhat frequently happen is you could copy the incorrect address to send the funds to. This is a similar but different problem that the OP had, as the OP setup the TX so too big of a fee would be given to the miners.

I think the OP's situation is an important lesson of the importance of attention to detail when using BTC.

Yeah it's those little things that people who know Bitcoin and know how to use it don't get. The normal person on the street wants something to be easy and safe. If it was possible to pay more than you intended to pay with your Credit Card, people would freak out as well!

Sure, but BTC is more like cash. Irreversible.

if you drop a stack of 100$ notes when going out, they are gone.

If you pay someone too much and he is not cooperative, the money is gone.

I don't see the harm, but yes, everything could be more user friendly!

Yeah, sure. But that's exactly the thing. People want the security that Credit Cards offer them. I think they also still just have to learn to be more careful when it comes to Bitcoin. They shouldn't believe everyone and just send BTC to some address.

But the extra service that CC offer can just be offered using a service provider. In the background you could still use BTC.

Look at XAPO for example. Sure they fucked up by having such high fees, but that model is basically everything you said is missing from BTC.

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Quote from: DannyElfman on August 09, 2014, 01:57:24 PM

Quote from: BowieMan on August 09, 2014, 01:55:17 PM

Quote from: needFREElunch on August 09, 2014, 01:47:59 PM

Quote from: wasserman99 on August 08, 2014, 08:19:36 PM

Quote from: BitcoinMillionaire on August 08, 2014, 03:28:17 PM

Quote from: BTCewdquestion on August 06, 2014, 11:01:00 AM

did i just lose a .2btc transaction because the fee was set at .2btc?

Aww man, I'm so sorry reading that!! Things can be confusing in advanced settings, yeah... Better just stick to the regular send-feature! I once almost screwed up with those long Bitcoin addresses. Mixed up a few numbers or letters. It was already pretty late and I was out partying!

It is really not possible in practice to mess up typing a BTC address. Your wallet program would likely not allow it, as if you make a typo it would most likely show up as being an invalid address. What could happen, and does somewhat frequently happen is you could copy the incorrect address to send the funds to. This is a similar but different problem that the OP had, as the OP setup the TX so too big of a fee would be given to the miners.

I think the OP's situation is an important lesson of the importance of attention to detail when using BTC.

Yeah it's those little things that people who know Bitcoin and know how to use it don't get. The normal person on the street wants something to be easy and safe. If it was possible to pay more than you intended to pay with your Credit Card, people would freak out as well!

Sure, but BTC is more like cash. Irreversible.

if you drop a stack of 100$ notes when going out, they are gone.

If you pay someone too much and he is not cooperative, the money is gone.

I don't see the harm, but yes, everything could be more user friendly!

Yeah, sure. But that's exactly the thing. People want the security that Credit Cards offer them. I think they also still just have to learn to be more careful when it comes to Bitcoin. They shouldn't believe everyone and just send BTC to some address.

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Quote from: BowieMan on August 09, 2014, 01:55:17 PM

Quote from: needFREElunch on August 09, 2014, 01:47:59 PM

Quote from: wasserman99 on August 08, 2014, 08:19:36 PM

Quote from: BitcoinMillionaire on August 08, 2014, 03:28:17 PM

Quote from: BTCewdquestion on August 06, 2014, 11:01:00 AM

did i just lose a .2btc transaction because the fee was set at .2btc?

Aww man, I'm so sorry reading that!! Things can be confusing in advanced settings, yeah... Better just stick to the regular send-feature! I once almost screwed up with those long Bitcoin addresses. Mixed up a few numbers or letters. It was already pretty late and I was out partying!

It is really not possible in practice to mess up typing a BTC address. Your wallet program would likely not allow it, as if you make a typo it would most likely show up as being an invalid address. What could happen, and does somewhat frequently happen is you could copy the incorrect address to send the funds to. This is a similar but different problem that the OP had, as the OP setup the TX so too big of a fee would be given to the miners.

I think the OP's situation is an important lesson of the importance of attention to detail when using BTC.

Yeah it's those little things that people who know Bitcoin and know how to use it don't get. The normal person on the street wants something to be easy and safe. If it was possible to pay more than you intended to pay with your Credit Card, people would freak out as well!

Sure, but BTC is more like cash. Irreversible.

if you drop a stack of 100$ notes when going out, they are gone.

If you pay someone too much and he is not cooperative, the money is gone.

I don't see the harm, but yes, everything could be more user friendly!

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Quote from: needFREElunch on August 09, 2014, 01:47:59 PM

Quote from: wasserman99 on August 08, 2014, 08:19:36 PM

Quote from: BitcoinMillionaire on August 08, 2014, 03:28:17 PM

Quote from: BTCewdquestion on August 06, 2014, 11:01:00 AM

did i just lose a .2btc transaction because the fee was set at .2btc?

Aww man, I'm so sorry reading that!! Things can be confusing in advanced settings, yeah... Better just stick to the regular send-feature! I once almost screwed up with those long Bitcoin addresses. Mixed up a few numbers or letters. It was already pretty late and I was out partying!

It is really not possible in practice to mess up typing a BTC address. Your wallet program would likely not allow it, as if you make a typo it would most likely show up as being an invalid address. What could happen, and does somewhat frequently happen is you could copy the incorrect address to send the funds to. This is a similar but different problem that the OP had, as the OP setup the TX so too big of a fee would be given to the miners.

I think the OP's situation is an important lesson of the importance of attention to detail when using BTC.

Yeah it's those little things that people who know Bitcoin and know how to use it don't get. The normal person on the street wants something to be easy and safe. If it was possible to pay more than you intended to pay with your Credit Card, people would freak out as well!

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Hi

Quote from: wasserman99 on August 08, 2014, 08:19:36 PM

Quote from: BitcoinMillionaire on August 08, 2014, 03:28:17 PM

Quote from: BTCewdquestion on August 06, 2014, 11:01:00 AM

did i just lose a .2btc transaction because the fee was set at .2btc?

Aww man, I'm so sorry reading that!! Things can be confusing in advanced settings, yeah... Better just stick to the regular send-feature! I once almost screwed up with those long Bitcoin addresses. Mixed up a few numbers or letters. It was already pretty late and I was out partying!

It is really not possible in practice to mess up typing a BTC address. Your wallet program would likely not allow it, as if you make a typo it would most likely show up as being an invalid address. What could happen, and does somewhat frequently happen is you could copy the incorrect address to send the funds to. This is a similar but different problem that the OP had, as the OP setup the TX so too big of a fee would be given to the miners.

I think the OP's situation is an important lesson of the importance of attention to detail when using BTC.

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Quote from: yatsey87 on August 08, 2014, 09:28:06 AM

If there's one criticism I have of blockchain.info it's that you have to manually input the fee so I can see how this could happen. It should be autofilled with the suggested amount based on what transaction you're attempting to send.

The problem with this is that most transactions will eventually get confirmed within 24 hours even without a fee. If you are sending what most would consider to be dust and/or Blockchain spam then no it probably won't but if you are sending a tx that is actually involved in commerce the it probably will. Commerce Tx usually have exactly two outputs (one for the the person you are sending to and one chance address).

Some transactions will also not get confirmed in the next block that is found even with the recommend TX fee. If you were to use a larger fee then the chances the TX will be confirmed in the very next block are much larger.

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Quote from: niktitan132 on August 08, 2014, 01:10:06 PM

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Quote from: DannyElfman on August 08, 2014, 11:12:34 AM

Quote from: DrBitcoin on August 08, 2014, 10:45:33 AM

Dude...it is 0.2BTC. 118.9USD. Get a job, make the money back, and get on with your life.

Yeah most people waste 10 times more time on lost money than they would have with earning that money back...

There is currently a thread with >100 posts, where a girl has 1 "ONE" USD stuck.... hahaha

You gotta be kidding me!!!!??? Where's this thread? Cheesy

I mean it's a sad thing, but really it isn't that much money, people, don't waste your time worrying about the money, but rather work in order to earn it back or spend your times with something nice!

I want to see that thread,too. Tongue

Btw OP,money you lost isn't such big it's easy to make it back with a job.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=724422.new#new

That girl is complaining for hours about her stuck 1 USD Cheesy

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Quote from: BitcoinMillionaire on August 08, 2014, 03:28:17 PM

Quote from: BTCewdquestion on August 06, 2014, 11:01:00 AM

did i just lose a .2btc transaction because the fee was set at .2btc?

Aww man, I'm so sorry reading that!! Things can be confusing in advanced settings, yeah... Better just stick to the regular send-feature! I once almost screwed up with those long Bitcoin addresses. Mixed up a few numbers or letters. It was already pretty late and I was out partying!

It is really not possible in practice to mess up typing a BTC address. Your wallet program would likely not allow it, as if you make a typo it would most likely show up as being an invalid address. What could happen, and does somewhat frequently happen is you could copy the incorrect address to send the funds to. This is a similar but different problem that the OP had, as the OP setup the TX so too big of a fee would be given to the miners.

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