Topic: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories Priced Reduced (Read 3379 times)

A deal has been made and arrangements to meet in person. This unit is considered sold now.

PM sent, shipping can be used with MBag for reasonable rates.

Hi,

Do you ship to Europe ?

Best Regards,

VinCeCream

You have 3 posts, including this one.

What "kids" are you referring to exactly?

I'm willing to use OgNasty as an escrow, if you're still interested in the trade I asked you about. Thanks.

Priced reduced, set to sell.

Not just this situation but many others on this forum make absolutely no sense to me. I am offering the fairest price on this machine even after I paid an outrageous amount to have it over nighted. Yet people don't want escrow to have anything to do with confirming so I don't get scammed.

As far as the "don't give escrow everything" concern, if you are worried he will steal you probably shouldn't be using them as an escrow in the first place.

  Your scenario for escrow sounded fine. I swear this forum gets dumber by the day. It really just sounds like the forum "kids" are trying to pull a fast one, don't listen to them please.
 
Have a nice day, don't take anything these guys say seriously they have no fucking idea what they're doing.

It's alright guys I understand the concern. I'm just going to deal with ebay one this one.

I get that I only have a little positive feedback on this particular forum (more all over the internet) people have concern but I paid for the unit before I received it and whoever buys this will have to pay before receiving it also. I'm not willing to get scammed. I'd rather leave it behind and work a deal with a friend to run it worst case scenario.

Thanks everyone for their bids and input.

Thanks for adding much needed clarity to the point I was trying to make.. The overly complicated situation the seller is trying to engineer is in itself a concern, I understand the reasoning but it adds extra risk on both the part of the seller and buyer with no real way to address the shortfall if any of the parties are malicious.

The buyer can still say he got a broken miner and because of the way shipping insurance works the responsibility for dealing with the claim, etc. is on the shipper, in the case of MGK's scenario that would be OgNasty, if he releases the coins to MGK before addressing then he didn't do his job an an escrow agent yet he is stuck in the middle as long as the insurance claim is outstanding.

As I said in our PMs, the bigger risk of a scam is the escrow agent running off with both your miner AND the buyers coins.

That said, I've had this happen once or twice: The hardware gets damaged in shipping. A) shipping the unit twice doubles the chance of it getting damaged in transit, and B) usually something can be worked out between the buyer and seller.

In the event of an issue, it usually goes down one of two ways: 1) the buyer ships it back to the seller on their dime, and the buyer gets their coins back. The buyer only gets their coins back if they return the hardware to the seller, otherwise the seller gets them. 2) The buyer keeps the unit (say it hashes fine, and it's just cosmetic damage), and the seller gets their coins. If anything other than these two scenarios were to happen, the escrow agent steps in and acts as mediator. The end result is that whoever gets the hardware, the other person gets the coins. The escrow agent is there to make sure this happens.

It's a decent system that offers a fair protection for both the buyer and seller. You don't need to reinvent the wheel and create overly complicated scenarios where you might come across an intentionally malicious buyer. That rarely happens, esp when you're dealing with people who have a known positive trade history. I'm partially referring to myself, and partially referring to some of the other people in this thread who have offered to buy it, and have excellent records. Lightlord is an example of this.

I would like to discuss a deal but apparently there is something wrong with the escrow verifying the miner and shipping to the buyer. I feel like it's a setup for a scam, buyer says miner is broken or box was empty etc and I don't see the problem with escrow verifying the rig. The only problem would be if the buyer is trying to pull a fast one.

If you accept trades, I do have a bunch of R9 290X, 280X, 270X cards.

I would be willing to trade + BTC.

Let me know
Lightlord

It changes the whole equation, it eliminates any angle shoot from a scam buyer. No he doesn't assume any liability, once he confirms it works and he sends it off the buyer has the liability. If he wants to pay for insurance that is an option too or he can meet for face to face transaction, I will even buy lunch.

I'm not totally sure you know how it works.

Do you have any concept of how escrow actually works, you do nothing to change the equation there since the sender is responsible for dealing with shipping damage so you are telling us all the OgNasty is going to assume all of that liability for you for what kind of fee? I wish you the best but just use escrow like most do and you will fare much better..

Any escrow used will need to accept payment from the buyer then I will ship the unit to OgNasty, he will confirm it runs properly and ship the unit to you and send me bitcoins. It's the only way I can think of. I'm worried someone may try to say I sent a broken unit or empty box etc. This way the escrow personally tests and confirms everything and handles all the funds.

Only downside is buyer will need to pay shipping 2x.

How will the escrow through OGNasty work?

Of coarse I do a quick search and can't find a single post about it. I am almost sure I've read that site was a scam. I may be wrong.

I'm thinking OgNasty is my best bet for escrow on forums. Anyone willing to use him for escrow can post or PM me offers (again).

I'm always available for escrow if we can't reach a deal for me to purchase the unit.   

Oh, I see. That sucks.. where did you hear the bad news for that site? I used it once, and it went well for me.

Can you link the thread?