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Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus - page 57. (Read 260310 times)

newbie
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As i see almost none of them offers horse&greyhounds racing . Especially greyhounds. Is there any trustable  btc sportsbook  for racing ?
legendary
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Add https://spirebets.com/ to NR. They are soccer only with huge margins.
legendary
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Thanks for the input fulldpixel.

Perps, do you ever bother to check history of the spammers that vouch for you, or your just so desperate for comments anything is "thanks for the input"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11201146

Selling "dice scripts"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9280902
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8516847

Not protecting investors
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8526512

Such valuable input from a spammer, who attempts to delete his tracks by editing his own posts  Grin



This is a player's thread and we aren't here to degrade each other. We are here to help each other. fulldpixel's opinion is as important as anyone else's as far as I'm concerned. I appreciate your opinions on books but in the future I'm not going to reply to anything outside of that scope.
legendary
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full member
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Thanks for the input fulldpixel.

Perps, do you ever bother to check history of the spammers that vouch for you, or your just so desperate for comments anything is "thanks for the input"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11201146

Selling "dice scripts"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9280902
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8516847

Not protecting investors
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8526512

Such valuable input from a spammer, who attempts to delete his tracks by editing his own posts  Grin


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Thanks for the input fulldpixel.
Peeps Place: "Sexism prevents multi-accounting"
legendary
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If you want to add other methods of depositing when bitcoin is high then you go look for an altcoin not dollars. If you add fiat currency because of high price of bitcoin instead of adding ethereum or litecoin or even dogecoin if you must than you become a fiat sportsbook and get delisted, simple as that.

Even having the accounts show as fiat currency is acceptable, people may want to deposit altcoins or bitcoin and then have their balance shown in fiat which is fine to a point, even that should not happen but if you make that happen that could be acceptable.

However, making fiat a deposit option suddenly makes it a fiat sportsbook and to be honest this is bitcointalk not dollartalk so you get out of contention. This place is not biased towards anyone, look at the big A-B listed ones and try to see whats different from you and them to figure out why you were D- listed.
Thanks for the input fulldpixel.
hero member
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If you want to add other methods of depositing when bitcoin is high then you go look for an altcoin not dollars. If you add fiat currency because of high price of bitcoin instead of adding ethereum or litecoin or even dogecoin if you must than you become a fiat sportsbook and get delisted, simple as that.

Even having the accounts show as fiat currency is acceptable, people may want to deposit altcoins or bitcoin and then have their balance shown in fiat which is fine to a point, even that should not happen but if you make that happen that could be acceptable.

However, making fiat a deposit option suddenly makes it a fiat sportsbook and to be honest this is bitcointalk not dollartalk so you get out of contention. This place is not biased towards anyone, look at the big A-B listed ones and try to see whats different from you and them to figure out why you were D- listed.
legendary
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Make winning bets on sports with sportsbet.io!
Now that Sportsbet accepts fiat currency, they will be delisted. This thread rates bitcoin only books.

If you are just now discovering that sportsbet accepts fiat, maybe you are not qualified to dictate sportsbook ratings as you think you are

Also,

Steve - thanks for the update. I'll throw in some plays and do more research shortly.

From a D- to totally delisted lol
Could you make it any more obvious that you are anti-sportsbet?




The progression in currencies used by sportsbet has been followed from 2016 to 2018 when they first started taking Euros. It's also known that Jetwin keeps balances in many fiat currencies.

Since Sportsbet started with cryptos and had a presence here prior to accepting fiat currencies, their rating was kept up in this thread. Cryptocurrencies are accounting for less and less of sportsbet's business. Because of that, I think it's best to just put them in the fiat class.

There has been plenty of poster input on sportsbet that had a great influence on their rating. Here are some other reasons for their final rating.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.3020

"

1. Margins - The margins (odds) at Sportsbet are very high. It's almost impossible for a player to overcome that type of hold with vanilla lines.

2. Self exclusion - When a player asks for self-exclusion, Sportsbet steers the player towards taking a temporary ban.

3. Areezy - Under no circumstances should a book be able to cancel a futures play. Areezy has given me permission to look into his account. If there is something that is missing, please PM.

4. KYC/AML - There are rare cases where KYC may be required. Sportsbet is heavy handed on KYC and confiscated 21.5 BTC form a player of which 15 BTC was from his deposit.

5. Double spend claims - Sportsbet should wait for 1 confirmation if they are going to confiscate funds for an "accused" double spend attempt.

6. Communication - A PM was sent to all books asking if they banned players from the UK or US. Every book replied within a day except Sportsbet."



Ive already answered ^^this^^ in this very public forum and discussed this.. pretty disappointed this is brought up again.

We have moved on and listened to our customers. Our main currency it Bitcoin but when it reached 20,000USD  the other December, customers were screaming out for other methods of payments.
Its what we do, customer comes first. (also note, there are more fiat currencies on the way as thats what the feedback from our customer dictates)

We won't tolerate liars and cheaters, so a few of those may have fallen into the above categories.

I asked everyone to come back and check, I hope some did. Others just don't seem to want too.. thats ok too.

regards,
Steve.
Sportsbet.io
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Perps, please learn how to quote replys all in the same post to prevent cluster, Im sure anyone reading this would appreciate it if you did that


Jetwin told me this in 2015 about their conversion rates.

They use Bitstamp's BID rate for deposits and withdrawals. If customer has selected currency other than USD, then the actual rate is calculated by applying current USD rate of The European Central Bank.

Oh ok so your going with what they told you 4 years ago.  This sounds confusing so I wanted to contact jetWin to clarify as a potential player :
https://www.jetwin.com/en-us/help/contact-us
They appear to be in America but see what happens when you google the phone number jetwin lists Grin Grin Grin  I will not post about it you can find yourself.



Edit:  Regarding jetWin, do you have a opinion on this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14937838
Not PC but they do this to prevent multi-accounting.
They support sexism, to prevent multi-accounting?    Cheesy
lol now I have heard it all  Grin  you guys are 2 much
legendary
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Now that Sportsbet accepts fiat currency, they will be delisted. This thread rates bitcoin only books.

Also,

It's also known that Jetwin keeps balances in many fiat currencies.

Jetwin accepts USD, Euros and Pounds. 
Please correct me if these arent fiat.
peeps, I dont mind your skewed ratings I really dont.  But you sort of caught yourself double standardizing yourself here and its not fair to this bitcoin community.


As Darkstar pointed out, they don't accept fiat for deposits.
legendary
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Edit:  Regarding jetWin, do you have a opinion on this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14937838
Not PC but they do this to prevent multi-accounting.
legendary
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Jetwin told me this in 2015 about their conversion rates.

They use Bitstamp's BID rate for deposits and withdrawals. If customer has selected currency other than USD, then the actual rate is calculated by applying current USD rate of The European Central Bank.
full member
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So  jetWin keeps balances in fiat currencies, but they are not a fiat sportsbook.
Ok, got it  Grin  
This is a lil misleading and would be interested in what method of conversion rate is used

Then again, Jetwin - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51568486
At least you are not bias against his skewed ratings  Tongue
Ratings or not, https://www.watfordfc.com/club/partners/official-sportsbetio-becomes-new-front-shirt-sponsor should be worth at least a F on peerps ratings  Grin

Edit:  Regarding jetWin, do you have a opinion on this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14937838
legendary
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Now that Sportsbet accepts fiat currency, they will be delisted. This thread rates bitcoin only books.

Also,

It's also known that Jetwin keeps balances in many fiat currencies.

Jetwin accepts USD, Euros and Pounds.  
Please correct me if these arent fiat.
peeps, I dont mind your skewed ratings I really dont.  But you sort of caught yourself double standardizing yourself here and its not fair to this bitcoin community.



Jetwin keeps balances in fiat currencies. They do not accept fiat currency (only Dash, Bitcoin and Litecoin). For someone blaming Peeps for not doing enough research that is also very pro-sportsbet, you could have done your own research  Tongue

I don't blame him for delisting Sportsbet, as there are a ton of other books that are fiat but accept Bitcoin (5Dimes, Bodog, Bookmaker are a few examples that come to mind). Keeping Sportsbet would basically require him to list all of those books as well, and it's a lot of work. SBR and other resources already exist for them.

side note: I also believe Peeps' ratings are skewed and am neutral towards sportsbet
full member
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Now that Sportsbet accepts fiat currency, they will be delisted. This thread rates bitcoin only books.

Also,

It's also known that Jetwin keeps balances in many fiat currencies.

Jetwin accepts USD, Euros and Pounds. 
Please correct me if these arent fiat.
peeps, I dont mind your skewed ratings I really dont.  But you sort of caught yourself double standardizing yourself here and its not fair to this bitcoin community.

legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
Now that Sportsbet accepts fiat currency, they will be delisted. This thread rates bitcoin only books.

If you are just now discovering that sportsbet accepts fiat, maybe you are not qualified to dictate sportsbook ratings as you think you are

Also,

Steve - thanks for the update. I'll throw in some plays and do more research shortly.

From a D- to totally delisted lol
Could you make it any more obvious that you are anti-sportsbet?




The progression in currencies used by sportsbet has been followed from 2016 to 2018 when they first started taking Euros. It's also known that Jetwin keeps balances in many fiat currencies.

Since Sportsbet started with cryptos and had a presence here prior to accepting fiat currencies, their rating was kept up in this thread. Cryptocurrencies are accounting for less and less of sportsbet's business. Because of that, I think it's best to just put them in the fiat class.

There has been plenty of poster input on sportsbet that had a great influence on their rating. Here are some other reasons for their final rating.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.3020

"

1. Margins - The margins (odds) at Sportsbet are very high. It's almost impossible for a player to overcome that type of hold with vanilla lines.

2. Self exclusion - When a player asks for self-exclusion, Sportsbet steers the player towards taking a temporary ban.

3. Areezy - Under no circumstances should a book be able to cancel a futures play. Areezy has given me permission to look into his account. If there is something that is missing, please PM.

4. KYC/AML - There are rare cases where KYC may be required. Sportsbet is heavy handed on KYC and confiscated 21.5 BTC form a player of which 15 BTC was from his deposit.

5. Double spend claims - Sportsbet should wait for 1 confirmation if they are going to confiscate funds for an "accused" double spend attempt.

6. Communication - A PM was sent to all books asking if they banned players from the UK or US. Every book replied within a day except Sportsbet."



full member
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Now that Sportsbet accepts fiat currency, they will be delisted. This thread rates bitcoin only books.

If you are just now discovering that sportsbet accepts fiat, maybe you are not qualified to dictate sportsbook ratings as you think you are

Also,

Steve - thanks for the update. I'll throw in some plays and do more research shortly.

From a D- to totally delisted lol
Could you make it any more obvious that you are anti-sportsbet?


legendary
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Merit: 1061
"A" and "B" books are recommended.


"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B+ (2013)        

"C" rated books
mBet.io C+ (2017)
betbtc.co C (2014)
fortunejack.com C (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.            
anonibet.com  C- (2011)      
jetwin.ps C- (2013)
playbetr.com C- (2019)

"D" rated books  
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)        
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)        
1xbit.com D (2016)                      
legendary
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Now that Sportsbet accepts fiat currency, they will be delisted. This thread rates bitcoin only books.
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