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Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus - page 70. (Read 260310 times)

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"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  email: [email protected] and support ticket........Reduced juice: Yes
betcoin.ag A (2013)             email: [email protected] and support ticket.................Reduced juice: Yes
bitcoinrush.io A- (2013)        email: admin@bitcoinrush.io..........................................Reduced juice: Yes.

"B"rated books
jetwin.ps B- (2013)              email: [email protected] Under maintenance.

"C" rated books
anonibet.com  C- (2011)       email: info@anonibet.com.............................................Reduced juice: No
mBet.io C- (2017)                24 / 7 LIVE CHAT........................................ Reduced juice: No

"D" rated books
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)        email: [email protected] .......................................Reduced juice:Yes
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)         .............................................................................Re duced juice: No
sportsbet.io D+ (2016)          email: [email protected]................................................ Reduced juice: No
1xbit.com D (2016)               email: [email protected] ......................................Two sets of lines.

Hi Guys,

Can we get the fact that we have 24/7 live chat added to the above list?

Thanks

Will do shortly.
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"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  email: [email protected] and support ticket........Reduced juice: Yes
betcoin.ag A (2013)             email: [email protected] and support ticket.................Reduced juice: Yes
bitcoinrush.io A- (2013)        email: admin@bitcoinrush.io..........................................Reduced juice: Yes.

"B"rated books
jetwin.ps B- (2013)              email: [email protected] Under maintenance.

"C" rated books
anonibet.com  C- (2011)       email: info@anonibet.com.............................................Reduced juice: No
mBet.io C- (2017)                24 / 7 LIVE CHAT........................................ Reduced juice: No

"D" rated books
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)        email: [email protected] .......................................Reduced juice:Yes
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)         .............................................................................Re duced juice: No
sportsbet.io D+ (2016)          email: [email protected]................................................ Reduced juice: No
1xbit.com D (2016)               email: [email protected] ......................................Two sets of lines.

Hi Guys,

Can we get the fact that we have 24/7 live chat added to the above list?

Thanks
legendary
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Please post comments, reviews, praises and complaints here.

Although this is a player's thread, books are encouraged to post. The only rule for books is to keep their conversation on their own book and not that of another book.

"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  email: [email protected] and support ticket........Reduced juice: Yes
betcoin.ag A (2013)             email: [email protected] and support ticket.................Reduced juice: Yes
bitcoinrush.io A- (2013)        email: [email protected]..........................................Reduced juice: Yes.

"B"rated books
jetwin.ps B- (2013)              email: [email protected] Under maintenance.

"C" rated books
anonibet.com  C- (2011)       email: [email protected].............................................Reduced juice: No
mBet.io C- (2017)                .............................................................................. Reduced juice: No

"D" rated books
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)        email: [email protected] .......................................Reduced juice:Yes
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)         .............................................................................Re duced juice: No
sportsbet.io D+ (2016)          email: [email protected]................................................ Reduced juice: No
1xbit.com D (2016)               email: [email protected] ......................................Two sets of lines.

*Reduced juice is better than 1.91 (-110) on sides in major sports.

"F" rated books
Anybet.eu .
Ball2Win F .
BetCas F .
betking.io sportsbook closed Nov. 2018.
betmatch.is closed 2018.
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
Bitbook F closed.
Bitbm F .
Bitcoinsport F closed
Bitcoinlivebets F closed
bitsport.bet closed 4/11/18
Blockbet F closed
BTCBonusBook (2015).
Casinoco (2015).
Coinbet F
Coindrafts F (2014) closed.
DirectBet closed 5/21/17
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo F (2013)
Powerbet F (2016)
Sportbet.im F closed.
StakeBTC F closed
Webetcoins F (2014) closed.

Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month

legendary
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Only "A" books recommended until after the Super Bowl.

"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)
betcoin.ag A (2013)
bitcoinrush.io A- (2013)

"B"rated books
jetwin.ps B- (2013) Currently under maintenance.

"C" rated books
anonibet.com  C- (2011)
mBet.io C- (2017)

"D" rated books
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)
sportsbet.io D+ (2016)
1xbit.com D (2016)
legendary
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One thing that we shouldn't do as players is multi-account to circumvent limits. If more then one person has an account in a household, let the book know prior to any problems occurring to get their approval.
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How about Casinos? Anyone play at Planet 7? I don't bother much with casinos, but they gave me some free spins and blackjack. I could cash out some, but is it worth the KYC?
For Bitcoin casinos it's the same, those who don't require KYC after registration can ask at any given time if it's stated in their T&C that's why you also have to pay attention to their rules and not just carelessly play without reading these information. Free spins and bonus is never worth the KYC but if you think they're trustworthy enough that's for you to decide. Many of us here are against KYC since you can have the same type of experience without having to go through these procedures.
thanks for posting this since I'm not too familiar with the casinos.
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How about Casinos? Anyone play at Planet 7? I don't bother much with casinos, but they gave me some free spins and blackjack. I could cash out some, but is it worth the KYC?
For Bitcoin casinos it's the same, those who don't require KYC after registration can ask at any given time if it's stated in their T&C that's why you also have to pay attention to their rules and not just carelessly play without reading these information. Free spins and bonus is never worth the KYC but if you think they're trustworthy enough that's for you to decide. Many of us here are against KYC since you can have the same type of experience without having to go through these procedures.
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Books have asked for KYC and then confiscated money for the following reasons:

1. Accused of money laundering.
2. Accused of match fixing.
3. Accused of double spend attempt.

The bitcoin books asking for KYC don't have any advantages over the top books. There's no good reason to put yourself in a position of being falsely accused. Books requiring KYC share information with other books and you don't want to be red flagged.
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This is raven's post in Darkstar's thread. He makes a great point.
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Seriously asking for KYC on a gambling website is the stupidest thing anyone can do.

Are these people unaware of their customers so much that they would ask KYC to begin with ?
I mean most of us come from countries where gambling is illegal and that is why we gamble in crypto currency instead of fiat, online gambling is not something I prefer to do but I have to do considering its not allowed in my country, so instead of illegally gamble here, I am going to give all my info to crypto casinos and get caught gambling because I accepted the casinos KYC deal and gave them all my information? Not a chance.


I can see KYC on rare occasions but many books are using it as an excuse to delay and confiscate winnings. We don't want to be hassled with KYC and have no idea on how our information will be used.



Can we really feel safe that our Name, address, credit card numbers and phone numbers will not be abused. I mean how many staff people could gain access to this KYC info?!

I don't see why 2FA is not enough.

I'm asking in advance before I deposit to any sportsbook.

How about Casinos? Anyone play at Planet 7? I don't bother much with casinos, but they gave me some free spins and blackjack. I could cash out some, but is it worth the KYC?
Great points and always use 2FA.
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This is raven's post in Darkstar's thread. He makes a great point.
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Seriously asking for KYC on a gambling website is the stupidest thing anyone can do.

Are these people unaware of their customers so much that they would ask KYC to begin with ?
I mean most of us come from countries where gambling is illegal and that is why we gamble in crypto currency instead of fiat, online gambling is not something I prefer to do but I have to do considering its not allowed in my country, so instead of illegally gamble here, I am going to give all my info to crypto casinos and get caught gambling because I accepted the casinos KYC deal and gave them all my information? Not a chance.


I can see KYC on rare occasions but many books are using it as an excuse to delay and confiscate winnings. We don't want to be hassled with KYC and have no idea on how our information will be used.



Can we really feel safe that our Name, address, credit card numbers and phone numbers will not be abused. I mean how many staff people could gain access to this KYC info?!

I don't see why 2FA is not enough.

I'm asking in advance before I deposit to any sportsbook.

How about Casinos? Anyone play at Planet 7? I don't bother much with casinos, but they gave me some free spins and blackjack. I could cash out some, but is it worth the KYC?
legendary
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This is raven's post in Darkstar's thread. He makes a great point.
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Seriously asking for KYC on a gambling website is the stupidest thing anyone can do.

Are these people unaware of their customers so much that they would ask KYC to begin with ?
I mean most of us come from countries where gambling is illegal and that is why we gamble in crypto currency instead of fiat, online gambling is not something I prefer to do but I have to do considering its not allowed in my country, so instead of illegally gamble here, I am going to give all my info to crypto casinos and get caught gambling because I accepted the casinos KYC deal and gave them all my information? Not a chance.


I can see KYC on rare occasions but many books are using it as an excuse to delay and confiscate winnings. We don't want to be hassled with KYC and have no idea on how our information will be used.

legendary
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Supercrypt, raven, game-protect and Darkstar - thanks for the input.  

Nitrogen and Betcoin are both great books. No one should be taking chances playing at new and lower rated books at this time. After the Super Bowl is an important time to check payouts. Please keep posting opinions and experiences as some rating changes will definitely be made after the Super Bowl.
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Nitrogen gets ahead thanks to the casino parts, look at the chart and see that betcoinsports has more in the sports side because it is a true sportsbook however look at nitrogen and even tough it has less ticked boxes on the sportsbook side, they have everything except live hocket and live chat at the casino side of things. Actually betcoin has everything there except teasers as well, if you look at the number of ticked boxes, nitrogen has 38 ticked boxes in total whereas betcoin has 46 ticked boxes in total.

How can nitrogen be 38 ticked boxes but A+ while betcoin is 46 ticked boxes and just A? How can someone look at that and think that nitrogen is somehow better than betcoin? I mean is it the time they started? Maybe nitrogen is older and thats why better? I don't think anyone looking at that chart can say that nitrogen is better than betcoin.

I think most people would consider Nitrogen more trustworthy than Betcoin, so that's likely why they are an A+
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Nitrogensports is A+ class sportsbook in terms of bitcoin gambling but it will be better to upgrade user interface for better view on site. Comparison can give idea about bitcoin gambling but i want to see the features like cash-out,instant betting(live events) etc. of big sportsbooks (Bet365,William Hill) I have experience regarding bitcoin gambling on different sites but management reduces betting limits after chain of winning bets.
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I've been with the SportsBet campaign for quite a while now, and I have personally used the site myself w/ my own money (not the money from the campaign). I can honestly say I do trust the company, and I would say they are reputable.

Just my $0.02
Many people are aware about the publicly proven Sportsbet scam!

Their illegal fraud scheme is juridically crushed and shills like you can not prevent the sinking! Cheesy
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Nitrogen gets ahead thanks to the casino parts, look at the chart and see that betcoinsports has more in the sports side because it is a true sportsbook however look at nitrogen and even tough it has less ticked boxes on the sportsbook side, they have everything except live hocket and live chat at the casino side of things. Actually betcoin has everything there except teasers as well, if you look at the number of ticked boxes, nitrogen has 38 ticked boxes in total whereas betcoin has 46 ticked boxes in total.

How can nitrogen be 38 ticked boxes but A+ while betcoin is 46 ticked boxes and just A? How can someone look at that and think that nitrogen is somehow better than betcoin? I mean is it the time they started? Maybe nitrogen is older and thats why better? I don't think anyone looking at that chart can say that nitrogen is better than betcoin.
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I hope they will fix it soon but to be honest it is not a problem caused by them mainly. The only problem there is that their software supplier is not offering crypto anymore and they will just change it to something else, I am sure it won't take that long and they will be back pretty soon.

These type of troubles that come from outside elements are really hurting the business for sure but thankfully not their reputation, their reputation is intact and still high, there are some troubles in casino world where technical issues are caused by the websites itself and that really hits you in your reputation a lot and you lose value, look at all the old casinos that got lost because of software problems. This will all be resolved pretty soon and people will get back on playing there I am sure.
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Books - feel free to PM me or post contests for the Super Bowl such as squares.
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