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Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus - page 96. (Read 260310 times)

RichDaniel

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Powerbet deleted my posts, 1 point for them, they afraid my truth post.

Quote from: ?? on ??

they ,probably,have an IP database+they red flag accounts by a set mask of activity
and the most suspicious activity is when you are winning Grin

so be prepared for all sorts of verification,humiliation id checks,bets change etc.
you are only a desired customer when you deposit money,but to get them back you would have to
run around in circles,send your id details and generally be humiliated,to be fair its not just this particular bookie-its their general practice

How about they refuse the payment even if we have ID verification? I think it is possible, Cloudbet usually uses this trick.

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Quote from: Naokia980 on February 27, 2017, 03:39:00 AM

Really good site. Lots of features and instant withdrawal. Just give it a try.

Quote from: Naokia980 on March 01, 2017, 08:04:19 AM

Yesterday deposited 94$ worth bitcoin and withdrawed today 150$worth bitcoin.Everything is smooth and good. The best part is instant withdraws.You feel difference.Thanks!

Quote from: Naokia980 on January 20, 2017, 07:38:16 AM

I tried this betting site and impressed! Recommended! Everything was ok till using bonus amount. I deposited and wagered deposit amount over 1.70 odd. Withdrawed winnings+deposit and tried to use my bonus amount. Withdraw process is instant and good than nitrogensports. I couldnt be able to use bonus amount, but i did everyhing as stated on rules.. Some script gives this error when i click to wager bonus amount: bonus_account.bet_place_not_permitted_before_player_accoun Contacted support and waiting for answer. I hope they will solve problem. Undecided

(Sorry for my poor english!)

I take all my words back!!! Why powerbet, why? You must keep up good work and doesnt behave like this way. So you doesnt like winners? All my transactions were under 1 btc. I already send documents for verification. I know from my bookie experience they will look for new excuses to hold funds. Wink

This could be a negative thing for powerbet, I hope they will solve your issue and release your funds soon. Did you make withdrawals successfully before? How much do you withdraw this time?

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the only advantage to use them is good odds. but when you put it advantages vs disadvantages - it's just not worth it to use them.
all the idea of btc is anonymity , they ruin it with this id verification thing.
and then start to block and limit accounts. i don't have any money there -they let me withdraw everything after i was limited.
there are just better bookies out there just use google

Exactly, in bitcoin casino and sportsbook, anonymity is the most important thing, no ID requirement is good. Sportsbet and some other bookies have the same policy, which I think it is unreasonable.

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legendary

Activity: 3934

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Quote from: Lionidas on March 11, 2017, 06:46:16 PM

Just tried to log into fairbet but it says I can not enter their site due to region restrictions.
Why is that when I can login into every other site I have tried?
They in the UK or something and only allows European/EU countries?

They ban players from the United States. Some of the anonymous bitcoin books ban players from US and/or UK but a VPN will let you in.

Lionidas

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legendary

Activity: 3934

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Update

"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A- (2013)

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books
sportsbet.io C (2016)
anonibet.com C- (2011)
cloudbet.com C-(2013)

"D" rated books
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)
directbet.eu D+ (2014)
1xbit.com D (2016)
lunarbets.eu D (2016)
powerbet.io D (2016)

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Exchanges
betbtc.co (2014)
fairlay.com (2014)
betmatch.is (2016

Prediction Markets
btcbet.us (2016)
betmoose.com (2014)
predictious.com (2013)

Mutual Betting
Onehash.com

"F" rated books
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

BetVIP - closed 6/12/15

NR
betopen.co
bitgame.online
bitsport.bet
jetwin.ps (2013)
mBitcasino
zombiewager.com

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month

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legendary

Activity: 3934

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Quote from: Barnstorm on March 10, 2017, 02:06:09 PM

Anyone having similar experiences with PowerBet?
Voiding wagers?
Tiny limits?
Changing the odds on sharp bettors?

Mine have been similar to easternbloc. Their limits are small. If you try to play steam (line move at other books), they won't allow you to bet that line even though it's displayed. It takes a long time for a new line to be put up.

Barnstorm

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Anyone having similar experiences with PowerBet?
Voiding wagers?
Tiny limits?
Changing the odds on sharp bettors?

Easternbloc

jr. member

Activity: 63

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Quote from: Barnstorm on March 10, 2017, 11:39:59 AM

Quote from: Rating Place on March 10, 2017, 11:20:12 AM

Quote from: Barnstorm on March 10, 2017, 11:13:45 AM

Quote from: Rating Place on March 10, 2017, 11:09:43 AM

Quote from: Barnstorm on March 09, 2017, 10:02:52 PM

PowerBet does not allow U.S. players?

They accept U.S. players.

The registration Form does not include United States in the pull-down Country menu. That is usually the sign that they do not accept U.S. players.

You can sign up anonymously. No countries IPs are blocked.

Got it! Yes, that's what they said in reply also.

Thanks!

Their odds seem to be similar to Marathon and 1xBets, which are some very aggressive lines. We'll see how it goes.

It's a marketing ploy, they are marathonbets pre-match odds for soccer, tennis and basketball - which 1xbet also copy hence similarities. Everyone knows Marathon has tiny limits and voids decent winners pre-match so it won't last.

Barnstorm

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Quote from: Rating Place on March 10, 2017, 11:20:12 AM

Quote from: Barnstorm on March 10, 2017, 11:13:45 AM

Quote from: Rating Place on March 10, 2017, 11:09:43 AM

Quote from: Barnstorm on March 09, 2017, 10:02:52 PM

PowerBet does not allow U.S. players?

They accept U.S. players.

The registration Form does not include United States in the pull-down Country menu. That is usually the sign that they do not accept U.S. players.

You can sign up anonymously. No countries IPs are blocked.

Got it! Yes, that's what they said in reply also.

Thanks!

Their odds seem to be similar to Marathon and 1xBets, which are some very aggressive lines. We'll see how it goes.

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legendary

Activity: 3934

Merit: 1061

Quote from: Barnstorm on March 10, 2017, 11:13:45 AM

Quote from: Rating Place on March 10, 2017, 11:09:43 AM

Quote from: Barnstorm on March 09, 2017, 10:02:52 PM

PowerBet does not allow U.S. players?

They accept U.S. players.

The registration Form does not include United States in the pull-down Country menu. That is usually the sign that they do not accept U.S. players.

You can sign up anonymously. No countries IPs are blocked.

Barnstorm

member

Activity: 160

Merit: 13

Quote from: Rating Place on March 10, 2017, 11:09:43 AM

Quote from: Barnstorm on March 09, 2017, 10:02:52 PM

PowerBet does not allow U.S. players?

They accept U.S. players.

The registration Form does not include United States in the pull-down Country menu. That is usually the sign that they do not accept U.S. players.

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legendary

Activity: 3934

Merit: 1061

Quote from: Barnstorm on March 09, 2017, 10:02:52 PM

PowerBet does not allow U.S. players?

They accept U.S. players.

Barnstorm

member

Activity: 160

Merit: 13

PowerBet does not allow U.S. players?

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legendary

Activity: 3934

Merit: 1061

Quote from: Iulius69 on March 08, 2017, 03:20:55 AM

Looks like that guy messed up with their tos? Personally, I have more than 60 bets with Powerbet and NONE was cancelled. Also my withdrawals were always instant. So, I'm extremely satisfied to play there, that's the reason I recommended them and i was surprised by your rating.

It nice to see your personal experiences as well as that of others. That is needed here and thanks for posting your experiences.

The ratings are stringent. The top books have been fairly clean since 2012-13. A lot of new books have gone under and many with the recipe being used by powerbet.

Hopefully there won't be any problems at powerbet and they will be a great book for us to use.

Iulius69

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legendary

Activity: 3934

Merit: 1061

Quote from: Rating Place on February 11, 2017, 08:27:46 PM

Quote from: PowerBet.io on February 11, 2017, 08:21:22 AM

Quote from: sbrzol on February 11, 2017, 05:58:21 AM

powerbet.io https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/powerbetio-100-first-deposit-bonus-top-odds-instant-withdrawals-1710755

lol, powerbet.io deleted most of my posts 2 weeks ago and today they deleted the last 2 ones

They could delete these 2 posts 2 weeks ago but they did it only today

Perhaps they are in big trouble

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Quote from: Easternbloc on January 27, 2017, 01:06:33 PM

Quote from: PowerBet.io on January 27, 2017, 12:50:05 PM

Since we got his approval, here are just a few bets that contain clear indications of arbitrage betting (the 1st and most important is the stake value, than betting on double result - aggressive arbitrage - and - not to be ignored - the leagues the bets are placed on, which can also be a sign of arbitrage), of a rather long list:

Sc-esv Parndorf vs Ask Royal Sped Klingenbach Asian Handicap -1.5 Stake 92.27

Arsenal Tula vs Shakhtyor Karagandy Asian Handicap -1.5 Stake 51.39

Lokomotiv Moscow vs Cska Sofia Three Way - Cska Sofia Stake 40.04

Lokomotiv Moscow vs Cska Sofia Three Way - Draw Stake 51.82

The list can continue with stakes such as: 15.79, 8.84, 66.18, 132.21, 36.49, 94.05, 94.85, 58.61, 40.37 and so on.

For the punter, we strongly suggest this article: http://sportsarbitrageguide.com/avoiding_bookmaker_limits.php

This is probably behavioural pattern of an arber but its not actually proof that the customer is arbing.

+1

Another question :

Did you void the winner bets only or the loser ones too ?

Only winner bets. After last two wins my balance should have been 510 mbtc and thay updated it to 0. No details nothing and just banned me permanently.

We have this healthy habit of deleting useless "educated" (actually pure troll posts that won't change our policy against arbers) posts from random people. The arbiter complaint is there as well as our resolution to it. We consider this enough info for potential arbitrators to decide if they want to try their luck with us. As mentioned before, anyone can feel free to start their own thread about arbitrage policies of various bookies, including us of course, but please refrain yourself from posting such oppinions on our thread.

@OP, sorry for the intrusion on your thread - a very good one actually, but we felt this forum user that we quoted deserved a final reply from us. Maybe more arbitrators will finally understand that we have a strict policy against arbitrage, and we'll retroactively void arbitrage bets once deemed as such by clear indicators.

Hi powerbet,

Thanks for posting and feel free to post at any time.

The recreational bettor only clause is standard and used by most books.

As far as arbs go, are you talking in-house arbs where the player buys back the other side at powerbet to gain a profit. All bets are at powerbet? If that's the case, then you can cancel wagers.

If you are assuming that a player is an arbitrage player using powerbet with another book, then the accusation of a player being an arbitrage bettor isn't valid.

As far as the bonus goes, when a book has 100% bonus with an 8x rollover, it's going to draw many that multi-account. A book that accuses a player of multi-accounting must have air tight evidence that the player did indeed break the rules by multi-accounting.

This thread is a player protection thread. The rules that you have in place that have been invoked are for lower tiered books that should be avoided. Top books do not confiscate winnings.

You can ban a player, limit a player, but never confiscate winnings. A book that cancels winners free rolls players. The book keeps the losers and voids the winners. This isn't acceptable.

Bump for Iulius69's question on powerbet.

Iulius69

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Quote from: win008 on March 07, 2017, 05:39:22 PM

New to this but have been testing the top 3, NitrogenSports.eu, Betcoin.ag and Cloudbet.com for 1-2 weeks now and have not had a problem with a deposit or withdrawal or any customer service inquiry. I will probably split my play on all three for awhile, but I am sure I am not alone in the great experience I have had on each. This thread has been really helpful as well.

Trying just the top ones, you missed the best one in the list though. Powerbet has the best odds of all bitcoin sportsbooks and instant withdrawals - plus a very good bonus. Don't know why Peeps has it on D.

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legendary

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