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So what does this mean? Is a casino that seems to have a very good reputation but is a copy of another reliable or not? Here in the forum I have seen 2 casinos that are identical to others, the only thing that changes is the name

Some casinos will still use an identical slogan of other reputable one for their own and just edit and make little changes which is bad, when are we going to wake up to start thinking on our own constructively to birth in something new that gamblers will accept and appreciate, it all take a sacrifice of time and resources but only few are willing to follow the process through.

but since I don't know what this business is like, I don't know if those interested in having new casinos buy everything including the environment? or the way you look? Are there providers for this? to set up casinos I think there are certain steps.

Don't be surprised that some people interested to set up a standard casinos do gall into the hands of bad managers, who will not deliver upto expectation just because the owner of the casino isn't experienced enough in setting up a casino, they mismanaged their funds, steal from it and provide less quality services for them and in such cases having experience like as you've mentioned is inevitable here, things will definitely go wrong beyond copycats.
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When the new things come,we expected the new idea was launched.But some gambling website was relaunched with old idea and tactics.When it was found to be scam,it will be co related to the old scam projects.So it should be deep think and analysis before the usage of new websites.Many county people involved in the gambling website.For that reason the crypto currency played wide role in new way of casino and gambling websites.

As a gambler, it is expected of you to carryout your own research before choosing a particular casino so that your money will not be in stake and this also applies to those always in search for the newly launched casinos whereby they can have the experience of something new, but this has to be considered provided that such casino newly launched is from reputable operators that has past history and records on their outstanding  performances with other casinos before time.
When you do see something new that launched in the market then it would really be just normal that you should make out some research so that you wont really be ending up on being scammed.
You would eventually noticed if theres something off or not really that right towards that new casino.You could always test out with some small amounts and dont directly make out huge
deposits so that you wont really be that ending up on being wrecked in case things turns out to be messy.Its not really something surprising that everything would really be having
its other version or being copied.There's always those people who would be looking into those current popular and hoping to get on the same recognition via copying.
So what does this mean? Is a casino that seems to have a very good reputation but is a copy of another reliable or not? Here in the forum I have seen 2 casinos that are identical to others, the only thing that changes is the name, but since I don't know what this business is like, I don't know if those interested in having new casinos buy everything including the environment? or the way you look? Are there providers for this? to set up casinos I think there are certain steps.

For me, the most important thing is that they have enough capital so that they can respond to any event where a whale-type player ends up with a very large profit (in slots, as is usually seen) what would be done there? There may be the best model, the cleanest and purest of designs, but they can be scammers, but a casino can be authentic but with a copy, and I think you wouldn't play there out of fear.
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When the new things come,we expected the new idea was launched.But some gambling website was relaunched with old idea and tactics.When it was found to be scam,it will be co related to the old scam projects.So it should be deep think and analysis before the usage of new websites.Many county people involved in the gambling website.For that reason the crypto currency played wide role in new way of casino and gambling websites.

As a gambler, it is expected of you to carryout your own research before choosing a particular casino so that your money will not be in stake and this also applies to those always in search for the newly launched casinos whereby they can have the experience of something new, but this has to be considered provided that such casino newly launched is from reputable operators that has past history and records on their outstanding  performances with other casinos before time.
When you do see something new that launched in the market then it would really be just normal that you should make out some research so that you wont really be ending up on being scammed.
You would eventually noticed if theres something off or not really that right towards that new casino.You could always test out with some small amounts and dont directly make out huge
deposits so that you wont really be that ending up on being wrecked in case things turns out to be messy.Its not really something surprising that everything would really be having
its other version or being copied.There's always those people who would be looking into those current popular and hoping to get on the same recognition via copying.
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When the new things come,we expected the new idea was launched.But some gambling website was relaunched with old idea and tactics.When it was found to be scam,it will be co related to the old scam projects.So it should be deep think and analysis before the usage of new websites.Many county people involved in the gambling website.For that reason the crypto currency played wide role in new way of casino and gambling websites.

As a gambler, it is expected of you to carryout your own research before choosing a particular casino so that your money will not be in stake and this also applies to those always in search for the newly launched casinos whereby they can have the experience of something new, but this has to be considered provided that such casino newly launched is from reputable operators that has past history and records on their outstanding  performances with other casinos before time.
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When the new things come,we expected the new idea was launched.But some gambling website was relaunched with old idea and tactics.When it was found to be scam,it will be co related to the old scam projects.So it should be deep think and analysis before the usage of new websites.Many county people involved in the gambling website.For that reason the crypto currency played wide role in new way of casino and gambling websites.
We do welcome new ideas and innovation which it would really be just normal for people to have those kind of reactions which we would really be that interested.It would really be just common sense if we do really notice

somethings off or something shady where we could really make out some warnings if ever its been proven out but if not then we are really that free on testing out new ideas for new experiences.

You cant really stop into those people who would really be making out those copying into something which they do saw that it is popular.
Once they have seen it then they would be copying it and hoping that they could get at least some marketshare.
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When the new things come,we expected the new idea was launched.But some gambling website was relaunched with old idea and tactics.When it was found to be scam,it will be co related to the old scam projects.So it should be deep think and analysis before the usage of new websites.Many county people involved in the gambling website.For that reason the crypto currency played wide role in new way of casino and gambling websites.
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What you say is very true, aside from there are other things to take into account, in this field of casinos, there is a lot of competition, I am sure that many players will have mistrust when they see a casino identical to another, and some players will not enter for the same lack of trust, and at this point it is not good that apart from all the understanding that exists and all the ways there are to attract clients, be it with good marketing, with signature campaigns and with everything we can imagine, it is not good that copy from other casinos, the demand is very high and it is not worth spending time and money on sites that really cause mistrust.

Yes, if they don't respect the intellectual property rights of others, who knows what else they don't respect? I would avoid playing at such online casinos.

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What you present is very interesting, and it is very good to take into account, of course that was with 35 Chinese casinos and obviously they are casinos that did not have much authenticity, but if it is consistent with the theme and it is to raise awareness, here we talk about property intellectual property and something can apply to this case where the designs and setting are copied, I do not know if it falls into the category of intellectual property, but this post should be seen by those casinos that have copied the designs of others to take it into account, sometimes it is better to avoid than to regret, and the examples you give here are pure gold, it is a question that they can review the thread and see it.

It's only a question of time, when all the online crypto casinos will start taking bitcointalk reviews and suggestions seriously. I mean, many of them are already present here, and they are taking what's posted here seriously, and it shows their professionalism. No wonder their business is booming.
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I think there are some casino sites where you can earn a lot of money especially by playing games but at one time those who go there to make money are the biggest losers.  He thinks he has been cheated
what are you mentioned here actually? I can't find any matches in your post with this topic. Here op said something about copy gambling games. But you are posting about something else here.  Which is a form of spamming. Keep an eye on your posts.  It's a real shame that you're a legendary member posting like this
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Just dont mind them and if you think this affects you? then easily report to admin so this will be deleted as no value post or not related to the topic meaning a complete spam as what will i do now.

and nowadays? it is not about the rank but the type of account who are doing the post .

It does not matter if a casino is a copycat of another casino unless they have been opened to scam users. I like competition and if these copycat casinos are offering something unique and are aggressive in marketing then they will find new users which would make trusted casinos to improve more. What you have quoted as a copycat is the design and logo which were not legally protected.
copycat is normally happened but what i observed is that once they are being called? updating or upgrading takes place for them to look different from the original
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Though now you mention it I wonder if any crypto casinos have ever gone to court to sue a copycat?

I know at least one case. You can read about it following the link below:

Cool, thanks, but my question was about a crypto casino Wink

And then yesterday follow up talked about dice copies and the most common I've seen crash copies (we all know the famous Crash game that started it all, but I'm not so sure I'm familiar with the script, which apparently was stolen or copied easily, you see new threads come up about it countless times over the years.

But they have not as far as I know ever gone to court.
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Of course being a unique gambling casino would be better than a copycat, no doubt about that, but in reality it's practically impossible. The established model of sports betting, for example, is so good, so convenient for bettors, that with making something entirely new you are risking to be left without customers. Let alone slots that are rented from software providers. They are all the same. How can you be unique in that department? Yes, some gambling sites have their own slots, but it's only one or two among many hundreds of leased ones, and that’s because it is very costly to create a good slot.

That's why I think it is enough to be a bit different, in a good way, to win the competition these days.
True, it will require a huge upfront investment to try to differentiate from the other casinos without any guarantee that this will bring any clients,

Exactly. Why people should go to your platform if they are already using several gambling platforms and absolutely satisfied with the experience? When there are so many good online casinos there's a high probability that your site will be worse than others if you are trying to create something new. I'm not advocating copycatting here. Please, do add some features that no one else has, but only if they are really useful. Don't make otherness your main goal.

What you say is very true, aside from there are other things to take into account, in this field of casinos, there is a lot of competition, I am sure that many players will have mistrust when they see a casino identical to another, and some players will not enter for the same lack of trust, and at this point it is not good that apart from all the understanding that exists and all the ways there are to attract clients, be it with good marketing, with signature campaigns and with everything we can imagine, it is not good that copy from other casinos, the demand is very high and it is not worth spending time and money on sites that really cause mistrust.

Differenciation in general is difficult to find everywhere. It would seem that everything is now created to satisfy and algorithm that makes everything out there, including casinos but also all websites, all videos and even movies look pretty much like each other. It is like the guy who said that if people want to buy Coke, I am not going to sell them Pepsi. It kills innovation.

All we want is for everyone to start something new, they have the kind of mind that can accommodate varieties of thoughts and innovation that can be put in place to help gamblers learn and play something new, if Satoshi did not make moves on attempted steps to create something different from fiat currency then we would have all not been here to benefit his positive thinking and creativity, even if it will be a failure but at least try out something new,no one knows tomorrow as another person can pick it up from where yours ended, i got discouraged whenever i see plagiarist even in gambling.

Well this is something that we should not ignore, because if you are right, Satoshi gave a change of course to everything as the global economy is managed, where he made us see that there is an apparent technology that we can take advantage of and that it really gives financial freedom in little time where debt does not exist unless it is mixed with the traditional economy that is well trodden and about to fall by the way, since 2021, however global events have delayed some things, however when we get into the topic of casinos + crypto , is something that goes far beyond physical and traditional casinos, where every process is improved and everything has and is based on a totally impartial system that has its advantage programmed to the casino, as it always is.

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I don't know about stifling innovation, that also sounds like another excuse. If I did something new and 1000 people copied me, I would be finding day and night to make my stuff even better. How does it stifle innovation?

Yep, it doesn't. That's what companies that created something new and original are doing all the time: they are trying to improve their creation and trying to invent something new once again, since they are, obviously, capable of that.

You can spend your lifetime on copywriting, licensing and suing those who "have stolen your work", or you can just ignore them and spend your time on creating something new and useful. I mean, you can do both, but in my opinion those judicial proceedings will suck you dry.

Absolutely true my friend, and to be honest, without copycats, perhaps more companies would be happy to sit down and enjoy their success since why work for something new and different when there is no competition and everyone doesn't copy your stuff?

To be fair the only ones who go for suing in court are those with so much money to make from winning or just egoistical people.

Though now you mention it I wonder if any crypto casinos have ever gone to court to sue a copycat?

I know at least one case. You can read about it following the link below:

Wynn Resorts Sues Resorts World for Being a Copycat

but it was about the looks of a land based casino. As for the online casinos, there was at least one case too:


MGM Sues Online Casino Over Trademark Infringement and “Identity Theft”


And you can read in the same article the following:

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In 2015, Sheldon Adelson’s Las Vegas Sands Corp won a similar lawsuit against 35 Chinese online gambling websites that each appropriated the company’s logo and played fast and loose with its intellectual property.

So, all those newly appearing gambling sites should keep in mind that intellectual property must be respected.



What you present is very interesting, and it is very good to take into account, of course that was with 35 Chinese casinos and obviously they are casinos that did not have much authenticity, but if it is consistent with the theme and it is to raise awareness, here we talk about property intellectual property and something can apply to this case where the designs and setting are copied, I do not know if it falls into the category of intellectual property, but this post should be seen by those casinos that have copied the designs of others to take it into account, sometimes it is better to avoid than to regret, and the examples you give here are pure gold, it is a question that they can review the thread and see it.
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I don't know about stifling innovation, that also sounds like another excuse. If I did something new and 1000 people copied me, I would be finding day and night to make my stuff even better. How does it stifle innovation?

Yep, it doesn't. That's what companies that created something new and original are doing all the time: they are trying to improve their creation and trying to invent something new once again, since they are, obviously, capable of that.

You can spend your lifetime on copywriting, licensing and suing those who "have stolen your work", or you can just ignore them and spend your time on creating something new and useful. I mean, you can do both, but in my opinion those judicial proceedings will suck you dry.

Absolutely true my friend, and to be honest, without copycats, perhaps more companies would be happy to sit down and enjoy their success since why work for something new and different when there is no competition and everyone doesn't copy your stuff?

To be fair the only ones who go for suing in court are those with so much money to make from winning or just egoistical people.

Though now you mention it I wonder if any crypto casinos have ever gone to court to sue a copycat?

I know at least one case. You can read about it following the link below:

Wynn Resorts Sues Resorts World for Being a Copycat

but it was about the looks of a land based casino. As for the online casinos, there was at least one case too:


MGM Sues Online Casino Over Trademark Infringement and “Identity Theft”


And you can read in the same article the following:

Quote
In 2015, Sheldon Adelson’s Las Vegas Sands Corp won a similar lawsuit against 35 Chinese online gambling websites that each appropriated the company’s logo and played fast and loose with its intellectual property.

So, all those newly appearing gambling sites should keep in mind that intellectual property must be respected.

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Differenciation in general is difficult to find everywhere. It would seem that everything is now created to satisfy and algorithm that makes everything out there, including casinos but also all websites, all videos and even movies look pretty much like each other. It is like the guy who said that if people want to buy Coke, I am not going to sell them Pepsi. It kills innovation.

All we want is for everyone to start something new, they have the kind of mind that can accommodate varieties of thoughts and innovation that can be put in place to help gamblers learn and play something new, if Satoshi did not make moves on attempted steps to create something different from fiat currency then we would have all not been here to benefit his positive thinking and creativity, even if it will be a failure but at least try out something new,no one knows tomorrow as another person can pick it up from where yours ended, i got discouraged whenever i see plagiarist even in gambling.
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Though now you mention it I wonder if any crypto casinos have ever gone to court to sue a copycat?
Based up on all the years here on crypto space, i havent seen one who had been sued out because of copying their site design.If we do look around which lots of copycats and still continue to grow in numbers

but eventually they do just simply pass away since people would really be still ending up on joining the original ones and this what makes things back to normal.
We dont see any suing or legal actions in regarding on this one.

Business owners here on crypto space do knows on which one would really be the ones who would succeed out.

The biggest victim of copycat is probable Crash and Dice, but yeah, the most I've ever seen is people just accusing them of being clones and then the site dying, which I guess is the same end product as getting sued to bankruptcy.

Then again, all the dice places I play aren't really that original anyway, or at least are not so different from the original. I play not out of loyalty but house egde hehe

Right anyway, end of topic I guess.
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I don't know about stifling innovation, that also sounds like another excuse. If I did something new and 1000 people copied me, I would be finding day and night to make my stuff even better. How does it stifle innovation?

Yep, it doesn't. That's what companies that created something new and original are doing all the time: they are trying to improve their creation and trying to invent something new once again, since they are, obviously, capable of that.

You can spend your lifetime on copywriting, licensing and suing those who "have stolen your work", or you can just ignore them and spend your time on creating something new and useful. I mean, you can do both, but in my opinion those judicial proceedings will suck you dry.

Absolutely true my friend, and to be honest, without copycats, perhaps more companies would be happy to sit down and enjoy their success since why work for something new and different when there is no competition and everyone doesn't copy your stuff?

To be fair the only ones who go for suing in court are those with so much money to make from winning or just egoistical people.

Though now you mention it I wonder if any crypto casinos have ever gone to court to sue a copycat?
Based up on all the years here on crypto space, i havent seen one who had been sued out because of copying their site design.If we do look around which lots of copycats and still continue to grow in numbers

but eventually they do just simply pass away since people would really be still ending up on joining the original ones and this what makes things back to normal.
We dont see any suing or legal actions in regarding on this one.

Business owners here on crypto space do knows on which one would really be the ones who would succeed out.
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those who copied from other sites are mostly scammers or tend to scam as they are proving to have no enough capital to atleast pay their designer in having their own casino to show players.

though there are some similarities that did not intend to copy but majority are scams in the end.

This is one of potentially a series of posts I'll be making for Bitcointalk on the crypto casino industry, how I see things playing out, and where we go from here.

At the end of the day, real competition is good for the space. Whilst it might be hard to imagine for those of you who have been gambling and posting here since 2016 or earlier, we are still extremely early in terms of the evolution of this industry. Exciting things are happening within tech, crypto and the internet as a whole, and it seems like that hasn't fully converted to gambling just yet - a big reason is due to the lack of actual competition. Competition forces companies to either change or risk being left behind. Those that build, keep up and grow; those that copy slowly die out. We'll soon see which is which.

Let's face it, there are only a certain amount of games in the world, most of which have been developed over decades and become familiar in their playability with the general public. People want to gamble on games that they feel comfortable with and without excessive amounts of new learning. Casinos also like to keep it relatively simple as it can prevent bugs from creeping in. That's the reality of why we see such a consolidation of games at crypto sites.
well  this means they are not totally copycat but instead same game offering?
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Differenciation in general is difficult to find everywhere. It would seem that everything is now created to satisfy and algorithm that makes everything out there, including casinos but also all websites, all videos and even movies look pretty much like each other. It is like the guy who said that if people want to buy Coke, I am not going to sell them Pepsi. It kills innovation.
Its not overacting but rather a common impression which even myself would really be having those kind of thinking and views about sites which does have the same vibe and design.
Copying is never been good.They might have able to have some changes or applications but its not something that you cant notice specially if you have seen this on the market for long.
I dont know on why copying is not something appealing in the eyes even if they do put up some additional games or changes but it cant really be removed on someones
mind that you have been copying others.

HJay a very peculiar case with a new casino, the truth has been very criticized for having its environment very precious to stake.com, in fact in the thread I let them know if they hate to change the environment a bit, so they don't see it as a copy-paste, because there are people who are very delicate with that part, I think there are many who don't even play for that reason, I was also receiving criticism because the support was very bad, but they have already improved that, and the truth It doesn't look like a bad casino, the games are very good, of course as it has the same look as stake.com it makes it attractive, so can a site like this be good and totally reliable?

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I don't know about stifling innovation, that also sounds like another excuse. If I did something new and 1000 people copied me, I would be finding day and night to make my stuff even better. How does it stifle innovation?

Yep, it doesn't. That's what companies that created something new and original are doing all the time: they are trying to improve their creation and trying to invent something new once again, since they are, obviously, capable of that.

You can spend your lifetime on copywriting, licensing and suing those who "have stolen your work", or you can just ignore them and spend your time on creating something new and useful. I mean, you can do both, but in my opinion those judicial proceedings will suck you dry.

Absolutely true my friend, and to be honest, without copycats, perhaps more companies would be happy to sit down and enjoy their success since why work for something new and different when there is no competition and everyone doesn't copy your stuff?

To be fair the only ones who go for suing in court are those with so much money to make from winning or just egoistical people.

Though now you mention it I wonder if any crypto casinos have ever gone to court to sue a copycat?

I think that is not the case due to the simple fact that it does not make sense for crypto casinos to go to court because it is a waste of time, they would get into a problem where they can even temporarily suspend and disable them, that would be much worse, a casino lives is from its clients and from the services that they can offer them, if I see that there is a casino with problems with the law or in a court that for me would cause alert and at once I would say that I am not going to put money there or In deposit, much less would I pay attention to the contests that they carry out, I think that all casinos think the same in this type of situation, it is simply not worth it.
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I don't know about stifling innovation, that also sounds like another excuse. If I did something new and 1000 people copied me, I would be finding day and night to make my stuff even better. How does it stifle innovation?

Yep, it doesn't. That's what companies that created something new and original are doing all the time: they are trying to improve their creation and trying to invent something new once again, since they are, obviously, capable of that.

You can spend your lifetime on copywriting, licensing and suing those who "have stolen your work", or you can just ignore them and spend your time on creating something new and useful. I mean, you can do both, but in my opinion those judicial proceedings will suck you dry.

Absolutely true my friend, and to be honest, without copycats, perhaps more companies would be happy to sit down and enjoy their success since why work for something new and different when there is no competition and everyone doesn't copy your stuff?

To be fair the only ones who go for suing in court are those with so much money to make from winning or just egoistical people.

Though now you mention it I wonder if any crypto casinos have ever gone to court to sue a copycat?
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I don't know about stifling innovation, that also sounds like another excuse. If I did something new and 1000 people copied me, I would be finding day and night to make my stuff even better. How does it stifle innovation?

Yep, it doesn't. That's what companies that created something new and original are doing all the time: they are trying to improve their creation and trying to invent something new once again, since they are, obviously, capable of that.

You can spend your lifetime on copywriting, licensing and suing those who "have stolen your work", or you can just ignore them and spend your time on creating something new and useful. I mean, you can do both, but in my opinion those judicial proceedings will suck you dry.
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This is one of potentially a series of posts I'll be making for Bitcointalk on the crypto casino industry, how I see things playing out, and where we go from here.

At the end of the day, real competition is good for the space. Whilst it might be hard to imagine for those of you who have been gambling and posting here since 2016 or earlier, we are still extremely early in terms of the evolution of this industry. Exciting things are happening within tech, crypto and the internet as a whole, and it seems like that hasn't fully converted to gambling just yet - a big reason is due to the lack of actual competition. Competition forces companies to either change or risk being left behind. Those that build, keep up and grow; those that copy slowly die out. We'll soon see which is which.

Let's face it, there are only a certain amount of games in the world, most of which have been developed over decades and become familiar in their playability with the general public. People want to gamble on games that they feel comfortable with and without excessive amounts of new learning. Casinos also like to keep it relatively simple as it can prevent bugs from creeping in. That's the reality of why we see such a consolidation of games at crypto sites.
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Not especially exclusive to crypto casinos, but casinos in general. Ideas that make it big elsewhere are copycated all the time. I guess you'll know this only when you try all those shady online casinos that are out there, especially in China or Philippines!

Personally I think copycats are in every industry. If you have a mobile app and you don't want to pay, and are forced to watch ads, then you know what I mean. Thousands of ads all looking the same as each other.

Same as going to Google Store search 1 app, see 100 copies.
This happens everywhere, if a product which is innovative is released and people are buying it in just a few days hundreds of cheap copies appear on the market, but this is stifling innovation as those people need to pay all the research costs and when they finally have a product they can sell it is immediately copied and they are not paid any royalties either, so I think this is the reason why no one is taking any risks as it simply makes no sense for them to take them.

Thanks for repeating what I said lol but yeah, that's the whole point I was trying to say. It's no use to complain about a 'copycat epidemic' within crypto casinos especially when it actually is far worse in other industries. They're cheats and they're gaming it but money talks, and worse, consumers fall for it.

I don't know about stifling innovation, that also sounds like another excuse. If I did something new and 1000 people copied me, I would be finding day and night to make my stuff even better. How does it stifle innovation?
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