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Quote from: TimeTeller on September 05, 2022, 03:43:07 PM

Sometimes the UI/UX is not the topmost priority of many.
It is what kind of reputation the site has among the gambling community.
Because the word of mouth is fast, if in case the site is guilty of delaying either deposits or withdrawals.
You can't escape from the criticism of the players when it comes to this aspect.
So better take care of this so as not to give bad impression to other players.

Yes, I totally agree with you, because like I earlier said, that I have no issue with copycat casinos , because what makes a casino stand to the test of time goes beyond a mere copycat casino, because there are several factors that could make a casino unique, trusted and reliable, and they include, ability to enable fast deposit and withdrawer, good marketing plan and ability to update according go new threads and innovations

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People may misestimate the common player, a change doesn't have to be monumental or even that unique to count as a 'new site' for peoples experience. Add in sound effects on buttons and cute cartoons and that could be all it takes, maybe the artwork is amazingly stylized or its brand is well known mainstream; could be anything if the feel of the whole casino was altered from the first person view of a player then it counts as new to people even when all other code usage is just the same as an existing site.
I see newspapers running gambling websites sometimes, I doubt they made it from scratch they are just bringing in the people; utilizing or monetizing an existing resource in a new market.

I dont see this as especially incorrect, its not just gambling but all across industry white label usage of other sites or even physically another companies parts and product happens often. If you can sell it better or reach a new audience beyond what the creator made then great, you have achieved a valid and successful website and business. You pay some royalties but this is normal business so far as I know, marketing, advertising with targeted demographics is half the battle in achieving valid cash flow and in gambling that will bring profits with turnover.

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Quote from: goaldigger on September 02, 2022, 04:46:39 PM

Many site will choose light and attractive design to get more gamblers, maybe this is just a coincidence and with regards to the games, there’s a few game provider and most of the site have the same provider and that’s why the games are almost the same. Competition is good, and if you have a gambling site you will always aim to be more creative and introduce new games, those who can innovate will have a better chance of staying in the market and get more gamblers.

From me i noticed that the design of a website also attract people towards that, because the way I'm seeing this, some people don't like to gamble with a site that have a low design and a website that have issues of deposit delay and withdrawal delay, this two things are the things that make some people to quit from a site that having all this kinds of situations problems

Sometimes the UI/UX is not the topmost priority of many.
It is what kind of reputation the site has among the gambling community.
Because the word of mouth is fast, if in case the site is guilty of delaying either deposits or withdrawals.
You can't escape from the criticism of the players when it comes to this aspect.
So better take care of this so as not to give bad impression to other players.

This is one of the most important things which business owners should really be avoiding as much as they could on which is all about deposits and withdrawals.No matter how beautiful your website design is

but you do able to mold up some issues in related to deposits/withdrawal then for sure it would really be creating that kind of impression which would really be resulting into that kind of impression
which would really be affecting overall site credibility thats why its better to avoid as much as you could.

Offerings are really just almost identical yet we've not seeing anything something new that had been offered.

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Quote from: goaldigger on September 02, 2022, 04:46:39 PM

Many site will choose light and attractive design to get more gamblers, maybe this is just a coincidence and with regards to the games, there’s a few game provider and most of the site have the same provider and that’s why the games are almost the same. Competition is good, and if you have a gambling site you will always aim to be more creative and introduce new games, those who can innovate will have a better chance of staying in the market and get more gamblers.

From me i noticed that the design of a website also attract people towards that, because the way I'm seeing this, some people don't like to gamble with a site that have a low design and a website that have issues of deposit delay and withdrawal delay, this two things are the things that make some people to quit from a site that having all this kinds of situations problems

Sometimes the UI/UX is not the topmost priority of many.
It is what kind of reputation the site has among the gambling community.
Because the word of mouth is fast, if in case the site is guilty of delaying either deposits or withdrawals.
You can't escape from the criticism of the players when it comes to this aspect.
So better take care of this so as not to give bad impression to other players.

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Quote from: rodskee on September 02, 2022, 12:15:48 AM

Yeah , almost each casinos has the same providers so I think it is normal to have similarities , but the issue in OP is about even the front page and the color themed is almost similar in which come to idea that it is a copycat though it is not prohibited.
but i will not bring big trust to those site that manage to copy other sites interface when they can only spend small amount to have their own , this proves them to be no funds or budget in running gambling business.

Many site will choose light and attractive design to get more gamblers, maybe this is just a coincidence and with regards to the games, there’s a few game provider and most of the site have the same provider and that’s why the games are almost the same. Competition is good, and if you have a gambling site you will always aim to be more creative and introduce new games, those who can innovate will have a better chance of staying in the market and get more gamblers.

We'll see if they don't intend to copy a site or if they do what they do on purpose. But it all comes back to how they can show us that they really want to make one casino that has the advantage over the other and if they can do it, I think they can compete with other casino sites. Or maybe later, they will provide updates to their site so that what we doubt can be answered. In the meantime, maybe we can give them more time to manage their site to run according to their plans and prove it to the public when the time comes.

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Quote from: goaldigger on September 02, 2022, 04:46:39 PM

Many site will choose light and attractive design to get more gamblers, maybe this is just a coincidence and with regards to the games, there’s a few game provider and most of the site have the same provider and that’s why the games are almost the same. Competition is good, and if you have a gambling site you will always aim to be more creative and introduce new games, those who can innovate will have a better chance of staying in the market and get more gamblers.

I think this has to do as well with marketing research, for example if you take the time to look at how most casinos look on the inside you will see that they are very similar and even the distribution of the games is going to be similar too, even if we are not really familiar with them there are many studies which companies do in order to try to improve their layout so they can produce more sales, so it is likely that the similar layouts that we see at physical and online casinos have to do with the fact that they are the ones that produce the most profits.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on September 01, 2022, 04:58:29 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on August 31, 2022, 06:25:56 AM

Well even in traditional and land base casino's you can see a lot of similarities as well, maybe just some variations on the style and aesthetic of the casinos. But still the concept is the same, card table games, baccarat, roulette, slot machines, craps, fro the same provider.

And so this might be the case on some online casinos as well, and so they look alike, maybe the software being used is from the same provider, same with those slot games as well.

Correct. The most popular casino games were invented decades ago and now all of them have the same thing like roulette, blackjack, poker...

Crypto casinos started with dice but they are expanding. It's easy to say they're all copying the same thing but in reality they are thinking of adding new things like crash or pachinko. Some sites have wheel of fortune and many other games. They are trying. If OP can make something better that's great. I hope it won't end with nothing but big words.

Yeah, and I think the point of contention here is the UI, that it has a lot of similarities to one site. Again, this might be true but you can't avoid it and I will go back again to the analogy on traditional base casinos.

Like what we have here in our country, big 3, games are similar, but if you look at the design, for example the entrance there could be quite differences but it is negligible. But once you go inside, the same games. So that might be the experience as well in crypto based casinos.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 31, 2022, 06:25:56 AM

Well even in traditional and land base casino's you can see a lot of similarities as well, maybe just some variations on the style and aesthetic of the casinos. But still the concept is the same, card table games, baccarat, roulette, slot machines, craps, fro the same provider.

And so this might be the case on some online casinos as well, and so they look alike, maybe the software being used is from the same provider, same with those slot games as well.

Correct. The most popular casino games were invented decades ago and now all of them have the same thing like roulette, blackjack, poker...

Crypto casinos started with dice but they are expanding. It's easy to say they're all copying the same thing but in reality they are thinking of adding new things like crash or pachinko. Some sites have wheel of fortune and many other games. They are trying. If OP can make something better that's great. I hope it won't end with nothing but big words.

Actually creating something new would be the toughest challenged and much sure that each company or platform do really try to make something new which hadnt been offered yet on this market.

It is really just that hard on creating one since if we do look around then almost everything had been created or been offered which means that it would really be needing sufficient time and thinking on

what kind of games that would be created which havent been existing on the market yet but until now we arent seeing something new but instead offering the same games all over again.

It would really be hard for new casinos to set unique and polished games without similarities to other casinos because they almost have the same featured games. They can create a little different when it comes to graphics and designs but they will still have the same thing in common. I don't think it's something that players should focus on. The reputation is more important.

There's nothing they could do but to follow up on whats the trend and it is true that they do really indeed differ on graphics and design but they do offer the same games and concept.
Whenever there's something new or new games been offered then it would really be just normal that they would be copying out so that they wont really be left behind on the competition.
They would really be just focusing on promotions and other perks which would really be the reason for them to hook up more players compared into other platforms
and this is where competition begins.

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Quote from: rodskee on September 02, 2022, 12:15:48 AM

Yeah , almost each casinos has the same providers so I think it is normal to have similarities , but the issue in OP is about even the front page and the color themed is almost similar in which come to idea that it is a copycat though it is not prohibited.
but i will not bring big trust to those site that manage to copy other sites interface when they can only spend small amount to have their own , this proves them to be no funds or budget in running gambling business.

Many site will choose light and attractive design to get more gamblers, maybe this is just a coincidence and with regards to the games, there’s a few game provider and most of the site have the same provider and that’s why the games are almost the same. Competition is good, and if you have a gambling site you will always aim to be more creative and introduce new games, those who can innovate will have a better chance of staying in the market and get more gamblers.

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It would really be hard for new casinos to set unique and polished games without similarities to other casinos because they almost have the same featured games. They can create a little different when it comes to graphics and designs but they will still have the same thing in common. I don't think it's something that players should focus on. The reputation is more important.

I played in some casinos and some games are the same because they have the same providers and even if there are in-house games, there are bound to have similarities, players go for names, reviews, and reputation, and where you are comfortable we see some casinos that may look different from the first time we've seen it but chances are there's similarity from other casinos its just we have not seen or played from casinos where it looks similar, if OP can come out with a very different one then it's good but I prefer to go on how they create their reputation and feedbacks.

Yeah , almost each casinos has the same providers so I think it is normal to have similarities , but the issue in OP is about even the front page and the color themed is almost similar in which come to idea that it is a copycat though it is not prohibited.
but i will not bring big trust to those site that manage to copy other sites interface when they can only spend small amount to have their own , this proves them to be no funds or budget in running gambling business.

I also think that there is some possibility that players, after looking at several casinos with identical and almost indistinguishable, copied game interfaces, may get confused. This may cause the player to start playing on a new site. Apparently, this is what some new casinos use.
This little scam, which is of course not a phishing scam site, is simply part of an advertising strategy to promote new casinos.

I think it's a deceptive and unethical business practice. Having copied a lot of game interface details from a well-known and respectable casino site, they want to lure new players with those game interfaces into their gambling site to the damage of the original casino site. This seems like a good short-term strategy for the new casino, but I think long-term it's a harmful one. This is the same as plagiarizing someone else's work and there should be laws against it (if there aren't already). Just think about it, the original casino probably invested considerable effort and resources into hiring designers to design and create interfaces and graphics that would appeal to players, but copycats simply take their work and make it part of their site without any credit or payment to the original designer. This is theft.

Punt . com casino is a glaring example of this, as you can see here. I would personally avoid any casino that was using this or any similar tactic, and would also not recommend anyone else to do so.

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Quote from: Silberman on September 01, 2022, 11:40:18 PM

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on September 01, 2022, 05:33:19 PM

I played in some casinos and some games are the same because they have the same providers and even if there are in-house games, there are bound to have similarities, players go for names, reviews, and reputation, and where you are comfortable we see some casinos that may look different from the first time we've seen it but chances are there's similarity from other casinos its just we have not seen or played from casinos where it looks similar, if OP can come out with a very different one then it's good but I prefer to go on how they create their reputation and feedbacks.

Specially on slot games where most of them are just similar since providers are really just common.Speaking about casino games like dice and crash or roullete then this is where they do differ
but only on design aspect but in overall it is just on the same concept and it is true that only minimal would be the difference but we know that each user does have different taste when it comes
to design on where they would be staying on the place where they do really feel that they are enjoying or been entertained.

We need to be honest it is very difficult to create a new gambling game that people want to play, most of the games that we see today are in fact very old, and even if a casino could come up with a new idea for a new game that people may like to play it is going to be impossible to get the copyright for that game and every single other casino will just copy the game as fast as possible, so all the time and money invested by that casino will go down the drain, and it is because of that scenario why casinos do not bother too much on creating completely new gambling games.

Yes, this is actually true on which you cant really that make things easily on where you cant really make one even if you wanted to.Its true that whatever things had been discovered or been created will surely be

offered by most casinos thats existing specially if a certain game did really get much interest then for sure they will really be offering it too.We could really say that this market is already a bit saturated

most platforms or places do only differ on some aspects but in overall it is really just been the same.Its hard to do something new but lets see on how long we would really be waiting for a new one.

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It would really be hard for new casinos to set unique and polished games without similarities to other casinos because they almost have the same featured games. They can create a little different when it comes to graphics and designs but they will still have the same thing in common. I don't think it's something that players should focus on. The reputation is more important.

I played in some casinos and some games are the same because they have the same providers and even if there are in-house games, there are bound to have similarities, players go for names, reviews, and reputation, and where you are comfortable we see some casinos that may look different from the first time we've seen it but chances are there's similarity from other casinos its just we have not seen or played from casinos where it looks similar, if OP can come out with a very different one then it's good but I prefer to go on how they create their reputation and feedbacks.

Yeah , almost each casinos has the same providers so I think it is normal to have similarities , but the issue in OP is about even the front page and the color themed is almost similar in which come to idea that it is a copycat though it is not prohibited.
but i will not bring big trust to those site that manage to copy other sites interface when they can only spend small amount to have their own , this proves them to be no funds or budget in running gambling business.

I also think that there is some possibility that players, after looking at several casinos with identical and almost indistinguishable, copied game interfaces, may get confused. This may cause the player to start playing on a new site. Apparently, this is what some new casinos use.
This little scam, which is of course not a phishing scam site, is simply part of an advertising strategy to promote new casinos.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on September 01, 2022, 05:33:19 PM

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It would really be hard for new casinos to set unique and polished games without similarities to other casinos because they almost have the same featured games. They can create a little different when it comes to graphics and designs but they will still have the same thing in common. I don't think it's something that players should focus on. The reputation is more important.

I played in some casinos and some games are the same because they have the same providers and even if there are in-house games, there are bound to have similarities, players go for names, reviews, and reputation, and where you are comfortable we see some casinos that may look different from the first time we've seen it but chances are there's similarity from other casinos its just we have not seen or played from casinos where it looks similar, if OP can come out with a very different one then it's good but I prefer to go on how they create their reputation and feedbacks.

Yeah , almost each casinos has the same providers so I think it is normal to have similarities , but the issue in OP is about even the front page and the color themed is almost similar in which come to idea that it is a copycat though it is not prohibited.
but i will not bring big trust to those site that manage to copy other sites interface when they can only spend small amount to have their own , this proves them to be no funds or budget in running gambling business.

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Quote from: dunfida on September 01, 2022, 05:47:22 PM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on September 01, 2022, 05:33:19 PM

I played in some casinos and some games are the same because they have the same providers and even if there are in-house games, there are bound to have similarities, players go for names, reviews, and reputation, and where you are comfortable we see some casinos that may look different from the first time we've seen it but chances are there's similarity from other casinos its just we have not seen or played from casinos where it looks similar, if OP can come out with a very different one then it's good but I prefer to go on how they create their reputation and feedbacks.

Specially on slot games where most of them are just similar since providers are really just common.Speaking about casino games like dice and crash or roullete then this is where they do differ
but only on design aspect but in overall it is just on the same concept and it is true that only minimal would be the difference but we know that each user does have different taste when it comes
to design on where they would be staying on the place where they do really feel that they are enjoying or been entertained.

We need to be honest it is very difficult to create a new gambling game that people want to play, most of the games that we see today are in fact very old, and even if a casino could come up with a new idea for a new game that people may like to play it is going to be impossible to get the copyright for that game and every single other casino will just copy the game as fast as possible, so all the time and money invested by that casino will go down the drain, and it is because of that scenario why casinos do not bother too much on creating completely new gambling games.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on September 01, 2022, 05:33:19 PM

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It would really be hard for new casinos to set unique and polished games without similarities to other casinos because they almost have the same featured games. They can create a little different when it comes to graphics and designs but they will still have the same thing in common. I don't think it's something that players should focus on. The reputation is more important.

I played in some casinos and some games are the same because they have the same providers and even if there are in-house games, there are bound to have similarities, players go for names, reviews, and reputation, and where you are comfortable we see some casinos that may look different from the first time we've seen it but chances are there's similarity from other casinos its just we have not seen or played from casinos where it looks similar, if OP can come out with a very different one then it's good but I prefer to go on how they create their reputation and feedbacks.

Specially on slot games where most of them are just similar since providers are really just common.Speaking about casino games like dice and crash or roullete then this is where they do differ
but only on design aspect but in overall it is just on the same concept and it is true that only minimal would be the difference but we know that each user does have different taste when it comes
to design on where they would be staying on the place where they do really feel that they are enjoying or been entertained.

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It would really be hard for new casinos to set unique and polished games without similarities to other casinos because they almost have the same featured games. They can create a little different when it comes to graphics and designs but they will still have the same thing in common. I don't think it's something that players should focus on. The reputation is more important.

I played in some casinos and some games are the same because they have the same providers and even if there are in-house games, there are bound to have similarities, players go for names, reviews, and reputation, and where you are comfortable we see some casinos that may look different from the first time we've seen it but chances are there's similarity from other casinos its just we have not seen or played from casinos where it looks similar, if OP can come out with a very different one then it's good but I prefer to go on how they create their reputation and feedbacks.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on September 01, 2022, 04:58:29 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on August 31, 2022, 06:25:56 AM

Well even in traditional and land base casino's you can see a lot of similarities as well, maybe just some variations on the style and aesthetic of the casinos. But still the concept is the same, card table games, baccarat, roulette, slot machines, craps, fro the same provider.

And so this might be the case on some online casinos as well, and so they look alike, maybe the software being used is from the same provider, same with those slot games as well.

Correct. The most popular casino games were invented decades ago and now all of them have the same thing like roulette, blackjack, poker...

Crypto casinos started with dice but they are expanding. It's easy to say they're all copying the same thing but in reality they are thinking of adding new things like crash or pachinko. Some sites have wheel of fortune and many other games. They are trying. If OP can make something better that's great. I hope it won't end with nothing but big words.

Actually creating something new would be the toughest challenged and much sure that each company or platform do really try to make something new which hadnt been offered yet on this market.

It is really just that hard on creating one since if we do look around then almost everything had been created or been offered which means that it would really be needing sufficient time and thinking on

what kind of games that would be created which havent been existing on the market yet but until now we arent seeing something new but instead offering the same games all over again.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 31, 2022, 06:25:56 AM

Well even in traditional and land base casino's you can see a lot of similarities as well, maybe just some variations on the style and aesthetic of the casinos. But still the concept is the same, card table games, baccarat, roulette, slot machines, craps, fro the same provider.

And so this might be the case on some online casinos as well, and so they look alike, maybe the software being used is from the same provider, same with those slot games as well.

Correct. The most popular casino games were invented decades ago and now all of them have the same thing like roulette, blackjack, poker...

Crypto casinos started with dice but they are expanding. It's easy to say they're all copying the same thing but in reality they are thinking of adding new things like crash or pachinko. Some sites have wheel of fortune and many other games. They are trying. If OP can make something better that's great. I hope it won't end with nothing but big words.

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Well even in traditional and land base casino's you can see a lot of similarities as well, maybe just some variations on the style and aesthetic of the casinos. But still the concept is the same, card table games, baccarat, roulette, slot machines, craps, fro the same provider.

And so this might be the case on some online casinos as well, and so they look alike, maybe the software being used is from the same provider, same with those slot games as well.

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Quote from: harizen on August 30, 2022, 06:44:23 PM

I understand the point of view but in the end, it depends on the users if they will play on that site disregarding if they copy the interface of a certain casino. If no complaints are received however from the original, or a thing called copyright or something along those lines, these sites can freely operate.

Users just have to make sure that they are dealing with a trusted site, at least.

Don't worry though as the famous quote says, "Nothing Beats The Original".

Agreed, "Nothing Beats The Original" and disregard of the design elements the success depends over the support system and the reputation the platform gain through its service.

Reputation will grow depending on how the business serves their players , meaning it will come eventually and no rush to take place.
and nothing beating original is indeed but along the way if the copycat is serious and dedicated then upgrading will make them beat the original but this will take time.

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The initial point is very important, getting into copycat platforms isn't a big issue, getting into phising sites is big issue. Be cautious while getting into a gambling or exchange platform. Cross check the url, because more phising sites with same resemblance are seen around.

proving them as phishing will save not only you but all the incoming players , what I mean here is that legitimacy will always be the one that we wanted to have in playing gambling.

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