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February 21, 2015, 03:12:05 AM
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Its amazing how anywhere on the internet, when some one criticizes the actions of Israel, dozens of sock puppets show up to start slandering and attacking the characters of anyone who doesn't fall in line. I guess that is the only alternative when you can't win a debate via facts.

Yes, amazing...

Here's a few facts about this thread:

People can decide for themselves if this is a thread about hating Jews or a thread about criticizing Israel. Can you point me to the "criticism of Israel" in this thread?


To think that you can simply separate the the hostile reaction to Zvika Klein, an orthodox Jew and Israeli journalist as only being motivated by antisemitism is simplistic and a cheap attempt at playing the race card it only looks at the symptom and not the cause. As long as Jewish people allow their identity to be conflated with the Zionist state you will have this problem in the same way Muslims who allow ISIS to hide behind the Muslim religion to commit acts of terror are going to have the same problem.

Shocking scenes as 150 Jewish men go on rampage in Paris streets and clash with pro-Palestinian demonstrators http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2693423/Jewish-vigilantes-rampage-Paris-attack-pro-Palestinian-demonstrators.html

George Galloway debates 100 Zionists at the same time (and wins!) - BBC Question Time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG-W0YbMUMw

If you allow the Zionist butcher Benjamin Netanyahu to declared Israel “the home of every Jew", while ignoring the rights of Palestinians to self determination is complete hypocrisy. Your outrage should be at targeted at the Zionist who uses your Jewish identity to commit crimes in your name.
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February 21, 2015, 01:33:48 AM
#64
Its amazing how anywhere on the internet, when some one criticizes the actions of Israel, dozens of sock puppets show up to start slandering and attacking the characters of anyone who doesn't fall in line. I guess that is the only alternative when you can't win a debate via facts.

Yes, amazing...

Here's a few facts about this thread:

1. The video in the OP shows a Jew being harassed by Muslims in France.
2. The second post accuses Jews, not Israelis, of killing Jesus.
3. Israel is not mentioned until the 5th post which said "what about a video of 10 hours walking in israel as someone that looks like an arab?"
   (I suppose this is the first post that counts as "criticism" of Israel, but the criticism is not supported by the *fact* that Israel has a significant Arab population.)
4. Many of the first replies are direct criticism of Jews, not of Israel, of Jews. Anyone can go back and read them. Here is a snapshot in case people start editing/deleting:
https://web.archive.org/web/20150219215827/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=958135.0;all
5. The 10th and 15th replies include denying the holocaust.
6. Your (TecShare's) first contribution to this thread was replying "The only problem with this scenario is there would be about 10 minutes of walking then 9 hours and 50 minutes of him bleeding out."
  (Again, what you are stating is blatantly false, as many Arabs live in Israel and are not, in fact, killed for walking through the street. Do you care about facts?)
7. Someone said that asserting "Palestine was never a country"* is equivalent to denying the holocaust.

People can decide for themselves if this is a thread about hating Jews or a thread about criticizing Israel. Can you point me to the "criticism of Israel" in this thread?

You also said: 'There isn't a rising "Jew hatred" happening all over the world.' People can look up the facts about hate crimes by race/religion in European countries, at least the ones that collect such statistics. People can look up for themselves whether or not Jewish cemeteries in Europe are being vandalized with swastikas. Indeed Jews are being literally targetted and killed for being Jewish. Not just recently: look up Ilan Halimi. The video in the OP makes it quite clear what the situation is. It doesn't do much good to look up the situation for Jews in the Muslim world, since that part of the world has been mostly "cleansed" of Jews already.

* What does it mean to say "X is a country"? Is it about recognition of "X" as a country? If so, by whom? What is the criteria? A statement like "Palestine was a country" is hopelessly vague. If someone wanted to support the claim "Palestine was a country" then they would need to say what that means and when the criteria was satisfied. If someone wants to learn more about the history of that region generally, palestinefacts.org is a good resource.

Maybe it's good to give an example distinguishing fact from opinion.

Fact: In the past 100 years, more Muslims have been killed by Muslims than have been killed by Jews.

Opinion: The reason why Israel is criticized more than Jordan [see Black September] for fighting Palestinian terrorists is because the ones making the criticism have a problem with Jews.

We aren't having a debate. A debate involves clear statements and the presentation of evidence to support or refute the statements. Even if we were to have a debate and I were to "win" it would be a hollow victory. Eventually the day is likely to come when you get your millions of dead Jews (again). On that day you can loudly celebrate, while I will quietly wonder if I could've done more.
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February 20, 2015, 09:10:21 PM
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Its amazing how anywhere on the internet, when some one criticizes the actions of Israel, dozens of sock puppets show up to start slandering and attacking the characters of anyone who doesn't fall in line. I guess that is the only alternative when you can't win a debate via facts.

It's amazing the level of reaction and hatred that comes out at the mere mention of 'Israel'.
I've never understood why the mention of 'Bali' or 'Uganda' never elicits the same fervor. 
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February 20, 2015, 07:16:36 PM
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Its amazing how anywhere on the internet, when some one criticizes the actions of Israel, dozens of sock puppets show up to start slandering and attacking the characters of anyone who doesn't fall in line. I guess that is the only alternative when you can't win a debate via facts.
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February 20, 2015, 05:03:46 AM
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"Where has God gone? I shall tell you. We have killed him - you and I. We are his murderers. But how have we done this? How were we able to drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What did we do when we unchained the earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving now? Away from all suns? Are we not perpetually falling? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there any up or down left? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is it not more and more night coming on all the time? Must not lanterns be lit in the morning? Do we not hear anything yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we not smell anything yet of God's decomposition? Gods too decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him."

dear Schatz, dream on. but anyway, never forget you are dieable, and will, then you will see for yourself. In the meantime... hf!
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February 20, 2015, 04:34:15 AM
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"Where has God gone? I shall tell you. We have killed him - you and I. We are his murderers. But how have we done this? How were we able to drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What did we do when we unchained the earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving now? Away from all suns? Are we not perpetually falling? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there any up or down left? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is it not more and more night coming on all the time? Must not lanterns be lit in the morning? Do we not hear anything yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we not smell anything yet of God's decomposition? Gods too decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him."
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February 20, 2015, 04:11:20 AM
#59
If you can't beat them, join them, if you can't join them, beat them, because they won't be expecting you to beat them, you will have the element of surprise.

GOD IS THE GREATEST. I can't join ungreat, but beating them, what the fuck, killing them!
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February 20, 2015, 02:42:16 AM
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If you can't beat them, join them, if you can't join them, beat them, because they won't be expecting you to beat them, you will have the element of surprise.
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February 20, 2015, 01:52:31 AM
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As bitgeek pointed out above, a significant percentage of Israel consists of Arabs. None of the surrounding Muslim countries have similar percentages of Jews.

It's obvious that if someone spent 10 hours walking as an Arab in Israel it would be completely normal. The same can't be said of walking as Jew in Muslim countries. Or even soon-to-be Muslim countries like France.

Arabs constitute some 20% of the Israeli population (and growing rapidly). In most of the cities, both Arabs and Jews can carry on with their lives without much problem. But there are no-go zones for both communities. For example, if an ultra-orthodox Jew walks in to Rahat (a Bedouin Arab town), there is a strong chance that he will be attacked. Similarly, if an Arab walks in to some of the ultra-orthodox neighborhoods (such as Beitar Illit), the experience won't be pleasant. 

cool, use droid, and snipers to finish the offenders, what ever the religion, it's called S.E. standing execution, record in cam if lawsuit arise.
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February 20, 2015, 01:48:42 AM
#56
As bitgeek pointed out above, a significant percentage of Israel consists of Arabs. None of the surrounding Muslim countries have similar percentages of Jews.

It's obvious that if someone spent 10 hours walking as an Arab in Israel it would be completely normal. The same can't be said of walking as Jew in Muslim countries. Or even soon-to-be Muslim countries like France.

Arabs constitute some 20% of the Israeli population (and growing rapidly). In most of the cities, both Arabs and Jews can carry on with their lives without much problem. But there are no-go zones for both communities. For example, if an ultra-orthodox Jew walks in to Rahat (a Bedouin Arab town), there is a strong chance that he will be attacked. Similarly, if an Arab walks in to some of the ultra-orthodox neighborhoods (such as Beitar Illit), the experience won't be pleasant. 
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February 19, 2015, 09:18:21 PM
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“As you say, you are a Zionist, you have a particular standpoint. Do you accept what some critics would say that the video, the way it was done, was an act of provocation?

“I don’t think it should be a provocation, because this is the way I dress. I wear a kippah everyday, everywhere I go — except for certain places in Europe because I am afraid for my safety. I don’t think that can be called a provocation because there was no political statement here.”

“I wouldn’t recommend my friends in Europe to walk around with this on their head because it’s dangerous. It doesn’t represent the situation in France, it represents part of the situation in France, 100 percent,”


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To be a jew and walking down the street is a provocation. 'Micro aggression'? But to whom?

 Cool

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February 19, 2015, 03:00:30 PM
#54
Both are cases of selective amnesia, your zionist fascist state is no different from the attempts by the nazis to create Lebensraum

you sound like a homosexual  Shocked

Nice try, your bigotry speaks volumes.

you know it's written in the LAW... lol. I prefer the law of war, alive or dead, it's binary. And happily in Israel you fuck who ever wants to fuck you, if only the money printers weren't degrading everything.

Times change though. One day you are the fucker the next you are being fucked. I prefer it when people agree to not fuck each other and live and prosper...

I would say LOVE, however it's very contrary to the ambitions of the NWOers and the UNers and of course the money printers... How could a dsk or Silvio operates in a world were LOVE reigns and not fuck... any way, who cares Cheesy.
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February 19, 2015, 02:04:16 PM
#53
Both are cases of selective amnesia, your zionist fascist state is no different from the attempts by the nazis to create Lebensraum

you sound like a homosexual  Shocked

Nice try, your bigotry speaks volumes.

you know it's written in the LAW... lol. I prefer the law of war, alive or dead, it's binary. And happily in Israel you fuck who ever wants to fuck you, if only the money printers weren't degrading everything.

Times change though. One day you are the fucker the next you are being fucked. I prefer it when people agree to not fuck each other and live and prosper...
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February 19, 2015, 01:59:43 PM
#52
Both are cases of selective amnesia, your zionist fascist state is no different from the attempts by the nazis to create Lebensraum

you sound like a homosexual  Shocked

Nice try, your bigotry speaks volumes.

you know it's written in the LAW... lol. I prefer the law of war, alive or dead, it's binary. And happily in Israel you fuck who ever wants to fuck you, if only the money printers weren't degrading everything.
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February 19, 2015, 01:56:41 PM
#51
Both are cases of selective amnesia, your zionist fascist state is no different from the attempts by the nazis to create Lebensraum

you sound like a homosexual  Shocked

Nice try, your bigotry speaks volumes.
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February 19, 2015, 01:53:19 PM
#50
Both are cases of selective amnesia, your zionist fascist state is no different from the attempts by the nazis to create Lebensraum

you sound like a homosexual  Shocked

doesn't change the fact that he is right in some aspect, some jewish fanatics believe that because some of their people ended in kl, they are now entitled to a jewish revenge, ie exploit, rape, destroy every western nations, including the USA (see bush reactions), happily this hateful minority (like the youtube kid) can be handled responsibly, by either local authorities... or darksiders if they manage to free themselves... anyway, what ever, they will not cross Russian territory in  impunity, that's fore sure, and only a starter Cheesy.
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February 19, 2015, 01:50:07 PM
#49
Both are cases of selective amnesia, your zionist fascist state is no different from the attempts by the nazis to create Lebensraum

you sound like a homosexual  Shocked
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February 19, 2015, 01:45:53 PM
#48
Both are cases of selective amnesia, your zionist fascist state is no different from the attempts by the nazis to create Lebensraum

No, because Arabs, Druzes, what ever aren't less favorites than the Isreali Jews not getting free shekels from their ctrl+p team... and there is no camps. However there are some Jewish fanatics, don't get me wrong, to be hunted and put down to earth like all tribal socialist before them Cheesy. If you consider my daughter as a second class human Being, or second what ever, expect to the see the sky turns bad for you (and your people that didn't stop you). soon. AI ON.
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February 19, 2015, 01:31:58 PM
#47
Both are cases of selective amnesia, your zionist fascist state is no different from the attempts by the nazis to create Lebensraum
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February 19, 2015, 01:20:04 PM
#46
a bit rich to claim that his movement is restricted when Israel has systematically annexed Palestine....



There was never a 'Palestine'.

Thats is equivalent to denying the holocaust, nice try

Not in the slightest.
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