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Topic: [~1000 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fee Pool, LP, SSL, Full Precision, and More - page 115. (Read 379078 times)

newbie
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will the new servers be up by tomorrow? Thanks.
legendary
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Great news on the new server, thanks for all your hard work eleuthria! I'll definitely be upping my donation percentage once the new servers are online and (hopefully) the idling and disconnect problems are resolved.

Are we moving to a uswest.btcguild.com/useast.btcguild.com/eu.btcguild.com type of situation, or will connecting to btcguild.com attempt to auto-negotiate the closest server?

You can manually specify a server if you want.  By default, btcguild.com will use round robin DNS assigning.  The latency between the server would not have a large impact unless you are running a significantly fast single miner.  Assigning users by proximity would likely balloon one server larger than the others, and I want it to stay relatively even between them.

Some weird glitches going on my estimated rewards jumped to 123 lol

I was testing the share counter cross-server sync for a fake end of round calculation.  It may have caused some funny looking estimated rewards for a short time.
member
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Some weird glitches going on my estimated rewards jumped to 123 lol
newbie
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Great news on the new server, thanks for all your hard work eleuthria! I'll definitely be upping my donation percentage once the new servers are online and (hopefully) the idling and disconnect problems are resolved.

Are we moving to a uswest.btcguild.com/useast.btcguild.com/eu.btcguild.com type of situation, or will connecting to btcguild.com attempt to auto-negotiate the closest server?
member
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Server may be having some more bumps over the next hour or so.  The first new server (US East) is almost ready to come online.  The pushpool and bitcoind side of things are done, it's now a matter of making sure when the master server calculates a block it properly sync's the share counts of the 3 servers together for that particular block, without losing any work along the way.

If the US East server is put online tonight, the EU server will likely be online tomorrow during the middle of the day.  Otherwise, both servers will come online tomorrow afternoon.

I am half way between to the North.  I think the East coast tends to have somewhat lower latency connection on average ... well into New England anyway.  Having said that, it all depends upon the site, how it is connected and with how much redundancy (i.e. Several backbone connections).

I am looking forward to it Smiley
sr. member
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eleuthria,
I am on the east coast (TN) and I'd be willing to test the new server once it comes online.
legendary
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Server may be having some more bumps over the next hour or so.  The first new server (US East) is almost ready to come online.  The pushpool and bitcoind side of things are done, it's now a matter of making sure when the master server calculates a block it properly sync's the share counts of the 3 servers together for that particular block, without losing any work along the way.

If the US East server is put online tonight, the EU server will likely be online tomorrow during the middle of the day.  Otherwise, both servers will come online tomorrow afternoon.
member
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604 Ghash/sec  Grin

How are the stales, idles and communications holding up?  Clearly people continue to mine so some people must be more affected than others based on various factors I suppose.
member
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member
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Heads up!  BTCMine has had trouble with VERY LARGE MINERS on the pool paying 0% [greedy bastards without respect].
Who, the operator(s) of BTCMine?

Sorry, but donation means exactly this: Everyone is free to give, but doesn't have to!
If any 0% pool starts to up their fees, I'm off to another one and if all pools start to charge fees, I'll either look into hosting my own or going solo.

It's BTCMine's problem, if their operators can't put up a solid business plan and calculate income!

What's up with my suggestion of automated payouts - still on the radar or did you skip over it?

Frankly, it doesn't mean that with all due respect.  In particular, it doesn't mean that with BTCMine [which is irrelavent now since registration is again closed and 2% is being imposed ... as it used to be before May 1st].

Here is what was written when the pool went to 0%:

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Pool registration closed
01 May 2011 01:57:28
The Current BTC price just passed the profitable mark for black market.
Yesterday I detected and disabled the first account with botnet like activity.
I predict there will be organized attacks from black market morons, and probably some more of these attacks may or may not be sponsored by third parties.

I'm positive that all big pools have already gotten some Bot-net traffic, so massive abuses and shutdowns from hosting companies (and investigation from FBI may take place) and could happen in only a matter of time.

I understand that this will prevent natural pool growth and my current decisions are:
1) I have switched the pool to a 0% fee
2) New accounts will be only be created for trusted bitcoin members or by recommendations.
I will probably add some sort of invitation system in the future, but I prefer direct contacts.
3) All old accounts are now being heavily monitored.
4) All future pool operations will be sponsored from miner donations.
5) If there are not enough donations to cover hosting and my time, then I will close the pool.

I recommended to all miners - think twice when you signup to a pool with open registrations from this date.
member
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Heads up!  BTCMine has had trouble with VERY LARGE MINERS on the pool paying 0% [greedy bastards without respect].  BTCMine is being forced to move back to a 2% fixed rate.  I suggested that he just kick their asses out of the pool since that is clearly a conscious decision to rip off the pool in my opinion [0% makes sense only for perhaps a trial period].  I suspect they will arrive here in due course.

Just fair warning Smiley

We already carry the burden of freeloaders, more of them shouldn't matter.  As I've stated in the past, BTC Guild won't be imposing a fee unless the costs to run the server(s) are exceeding the income from donations and transaction fees.  And before that, I'll probably put up some donation bars to solicit straight donations to the pool.  I'm not a charity, but I'm also firmly running this as a side business, not a primary form of income.

Adding a bunch of freeloaders would potentially increase income slightly.  Previous users at their current donation rates would be donating roughly the same per day, just split over more blocks.  Meanwhile, the freeloaders reduce variance and earn the pool more via transaction fees.  At current exchange rates, the extra transaction fees could potentially offset the additional server costs they're imposing on the pool.

Well, I think BTCMine found itself in the position where it was causing a revenue issue.  Also, with the new bitcoin client, transaction fees are going to be reduced on average.  It seems they are either suggesting 0.005 or 0.0005BTC per 1KB transaction.  The new client supports the additional decimal places.  I think 0.3.23 is imminent as there are some issues with using bitcoind in it on Windows (32-bit) systems.

Oh, BTW, you found that increased traffic has taken a lot of your time to load balance between bitcoind daemon instances and now you are setting up two additional servers to deal with load issues.  That costs you money.  If some large free loaders come you way, I don't think the transaction fees will really pay enough to make it worth your time in trouble shooting and expansion which may be solely to the benefit of free loaders [expansion costs money and will easily exceed your transaction fees I think].

It's your pool, and I don't care as long as it works and is of high quality and integrity [which it has been, excusing the current load issues which you are dealing with phenomenally].
legendary
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Heads up!  BTCMine has had trouble with VERY LARGE MINERS on the pool paying 0% [greedy bastards without respect].
Who, the operator(s) of BTCMine?

Sorry, but donation means exactly this: Everyone is free to give, but doesn't have to!
If any 0% pool starts to up their fees, I'm off to another one and if all pools start to charge fees, I'll either look into hosting my own or going solo.

It's BTCMine's problem, if their operators can't put up a solid business plan and calculate income!

What's up with my suggestion of automated payouts - still on the radar or did you skip over it?
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1007
Heads up!  BTCMine has had trouble with VERY LARGE MINERS on the pool paying 0% [greedy bastards without respect].  BTCMine is being forced to move back to a 2% fixed rate.  I suggested that he just kick their asses out of the pool since that is clearly a conscious decision to rip off the pool in my opinion [0% makes sense only for perhaps a trial period].  I suspect they will arrive here in due course.

Just fair warning Smiley

We already carry the burden of freeloaders, more of them shouldn't matter.  As I've stated in the past, BTC Guild won't be imposing a fee unless the costs to run the server(s) are exceeding the income from donations and transaction fees.  And before that, I'll probably put up some donation bars to solicit straight donations to the pool.  I'm not a charity, but I'm also firmly running this as a side business, not a primary form of income.

Adding a bunch of freeloaders would potentially increase income slightly.  Previous users at their current donation rates would be donating roughly the same per day, just split over more blocks.  Meanwhile, the freeloaders reduce variance and earn the pool more via transaction fees.  At current exchange rates, the extra transaction fees could potentially offset the additional server costs they're imposing on the pool.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
Heads up!  BTCMine has had trouble with VERY LARGE MINERS on the pool paying 0% [greedy bastards without respect].  BTCMine is being forced to move back to a 2% fixed rate.  I suggested that he just kick their asses out of the pool since that is clearly a conscious decision to rip off the pool in my opinion [0% makes sense only for perhaps a trial period].  I suspect they will arrive here in due course.

Just fair warning Smiley
newbie
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eleuthria said he was doing some load testing and other stuff, so I
wouldn't worry to much about it. I can't log in either, But i'm not
worried, I know he's doing some work.
newbie
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Anyone else having problems logging into the website? I'm mining just fine, but whenever I try to log into the website it says no such account exists. Ugh. Not the first time I've encountered problems with it so I'll be patient.

Yeah...same here...just noticed it.  My workers are still cranking along also, so it appears to just be front-end stuff.

Probably related to the server upgrade.

Just being patient at this point.

Front-end is back up now...all appears to be okay.
newbie
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Anyone else having problems logging into the website? I'm mining just fine, but whenever I try to log into the website it says no such account exists. Ugh. Not the first time I've encountered problems with it so I'll be patient.

Yeah...same here...just noticed it.  My workers are still cranking along also, so it appears to just be front-end stuff.

Probably related to the server upgrade.

Just being patient at this point.
member
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I too am having problems logging into the website it says my username doesn't exist too.
newbie
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Anyone else having problems logging into the website? I'm mining just fine, but whenever I try to log into the website it says no such account exists. Ugh. Not the first time I've encountered problems with it so I'll be patient.
newbie
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US East and EU servers are now both accessible by me.  I have begun setting up the US East server already (it came up first), and will be able to quickly duplicate that work on the EU server.  Current ETA on the new servers being up and running is Wednesday night (PDT) or Thursday night (PDT), depending on how quickly I can modify pushpool and the master server frontend to communicate with the slave servers for combining round data for calculations.

I've been running simulated load tests on the US East server, and it looks like between the 3 servers, the pool will be able to grow to 1.5-1.7 TH/sec before any new pushpool tweaks/additional servers will be needed.

Awesome News  Grin
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