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Topic: [~1000 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fee Pool, LP, SSL, Full Precision, and More - page 118. (Read 379078 times)

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I've been mining for 13 hours straight with 100% usage on both gpus and temps at 65C and 67C. Is it safe to run this 24/7?

That temperature is fine for chips. Worry when it gets to 80C+ (even then it'll probably be fine). Some cards idle at like 60+

Hardware will stop itself from overheating - either by drawing less power and slowing down / increasing fan speed - or turning off the computer alltogether.

Fatigue happens if the the hardware expands and contracts a lot (increase/decrease in temperature).

I imagine going between 40 - 70C wouldn't be much of a problem tbh, though I'm not an expert.

Temperature cycling is NOT fine for anything.  It causes "fatigue" wear.  Any 3rd year mechanical, civil or aerospace engineer or materials science major will know this without thinking 1 second about it.  Since there are MANY MANY parts in a board and only one needs to fail to kill it, fatigue is a nightmare for them.  Mining is not the norm for a gaming card ... gaming is.  Gaming runs at whatever is required while you are playing and then goes back to typical idle when finished.  This is cycling over long periods of time and much few times during the life of the card.  With mining, it is happening as often as once per minute in this pool.

So, sorry, but you are absolutely incorrect about the damage temperature cycling can do, even if below 70C the entire time.

Which is why I posted up this little python PID controller for temperature control. Put in the set point and good tuning parameters and it should be able to keep temp. pretty constant even with work 'turbulence' ... needs some patching work is all (minimal py skills me)

https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=10062.20

Nice too perhaps.  Still, if you aren't driving the card through usage, no controlling of fan or other cooling will keep it hot.

FWIW, I ran a test today and did not see one connection issue and every miner idle issue was near a long poll push and further, it idle was short enough that the GPU usage % was a short drop and then back up to full again and the temperature barely fluctuated at all.  So, I don't think this pool is a risk to hardware.  Unfortunately, I was getting 3+% stale shares and that is NOT good.

Soon enough there will be two, then three servers and perhaps this issue will hopefully be resolved as well.  I use the same mining parameters with every pool [other than login of course].
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
I've been mining for 13 hours straight with 100% usage on both gpus and temps at 65C and 67C. Is it safe to run this 24/7?

That temperature is fine for chips. Worry when it gets to 80C+ (even then it'll probably be fine). Some cards idle at like 60+

Hardware will stop itself from overheating - either by drawing less power and slowing down / increasing fan speed - or turning off the computer alltogether.

Fatigue happens if the the hardware expands and contracts a lot (increase/decrease in temperature).

I imagine going between 40 - 70C wouldn't be much of a problem tbh, though I'm not an expert.

Temperature cycling is NOT fine for anything.  It causes "fatigue" wear.  Any 3rd year mechanical, civil or aerospace engineer or materials science major will know this without thinking 1 second about it.  Since there are MANY MANY parts in a board and only one needs to fail to kill it, fatigue is a nightmare for them.  Mining is not the norm for a gaming card ... gaming is.  Gaming runs at whatever is required while you are playing and then goes back to typical idle when finished.  This is cycling over long periods of time and much few times during the life of the card.  With mining, it is happening as often as once per minute in this pool.

So, sorry, but you are absolutely incorrect about the damage temperature cycling can do, even if below 70C the entire time.

Which is why I posted up this little python PID controller for temperature control. Put in the set point and good tuning parameters and it should be able to keep temp. pretty constant even with work 'turbulence' ... needs some patching work is all (minimal py skills me)

https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=10062.20

sr. member
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https://cryptassist.io
quick question, what exactly does the 2.5% donation threshold do?  does it mean that stale/invalid blocks get rewarded the same as regular shares?
member
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An order has been placed for a server in the EU.  It will probably be ready to go live on Thursday.  The DNS will load balance between the two, but I will post special URLs that pool members can use to manually connect to the server closer to them if they wish.

There may be one more server coming online by next weekend based in the east coast to give us a fairly wide spread geographically (US West, US East, EU).

Absolutely amazing!  How long ago was this just an idea?  You wrote the original site [beta?] in a week, correct?  Went live and scaled to be one of the largest pools available in a very short period of time and have been more adaptable, creative and reactive than any other pool operator except perhaps Tycho [meaning you have accomplished these feats at least as well as Tycho which says a lot for both of you, but especially you due to the speed and agility with which you have managed this]. 
hero member
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Minds are like parachutes they work best when open
Im all for the EU servers, UK sucks for pools! Another idea Eleuthria, if possible could you impliment a quotes system on the main account page so that we can see the best rates from multiple exchanges... MtGox, Britcoin etc.

Reason I ask is it will lower crashes on some machines having to keep going to multiple pages every time I want to check my coins and general market. I have a good pc, but suffer some stalls and hangs, and I know those with less powerful system will defo be getting these if trying to do too much.

Maybe This could be intergrated into the donations system... i.e. for 1.5-2.5% givers (which I am Cheesy)

Thanks
member
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EU server sounds great, could definitely use one of those. Not many EU pools around right now I presume.

Will be returning for sure when that comes online, temporarily left because of the problems.
newbie
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I moved my gigahash to BTC Guild, lets see how this works out.
gll
newbie
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Just had my first problem here .. mi miners went down for about 6 hours while I was sleeping ... was a server problem or mine?

thanks
sr. member
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Someone just changed the payment address on my my account.  I have reset my btcguild.com password, and corrected the payment address.  

Here is the address the douchebag changed it to:  1CQECoaRJzjQzZ21Td6CEXGMsQAm2wiPVh  

Also, how do we change the password of our workers?



I remember reading here that you can use any password with the workers and it'll work
sr. member
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What?
using the email notification is what alerted me that someone had changed the payment address. 
hero member
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you have to implement the email confirmation every time the wallet is updated!  Wink
sr. member
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Someone just changed the payment address on my my account.  I have reset my btcguild.com password, and corrected the payment address.  

Here is the address the douchebag changed it to:  1CQECoaRJzjQzZ21Td6CEXGMsQAm2wiPVh  

Also, how do we change the password of our workers?

newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
An order has been placed for a server in the EU.  It will probably be ready to go live on Thursday.  The DNS will load balance between the two, but I will post special URLs that pool members can use to manually connect to the server closer to them if they wish.

There may be one more server coming online by next weekend based in the east coast to give us a fairly wide spread geographically (US West, US East, EU).

Awesome Smiley

I'm gonna switch back to the EU server when it arrives then =]
legendary
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An order has been placed for a server in the EU.  It will probably be ready to go live on Thursday.  The DNS will load balance between the two, but I will post special URLs that pool members can use to manually connect to the server closer to them if they wish.

There may be one more server coming online by next weekend based in the east coast to give us a fairly wide spread geographically (US West, US East, EU).
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
More changes to pushpool this morning after sleeping on the problem.  Starting to research EU and east coast VPS and dedicated hosting providers to start setting up 1 or 2 new servers to load balance with the current one.

Could you provide some load statistics for those of us interested in that kind of data? In/outgoing bandwith, # of db queries, web page requests and whatnot per second, for instance.

Have you done any profiling to figure out where the bottlenecks are?
hero member
Activity: 626
Merit: 500
Mining since May 2011.
deepbit creates a prototype "mobile" summary page - https://deepbit.net/m

could we get something similar?

Yes it would be great to have like a mobile page for Worker Summary table!  Grin
legendary
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Merit: 1007
Feature request:
Automatic payout at one of these 3 "triggers":
Every x blocks
Every x hours/days
After x BTC have been confirmed

Suggested implementation:

1% donation perk: Instant payout as soon as the trigger fires
0% donation perk (always active): Payout transaction will be included in the next block the pool solves (= not requiring any fees from your side) after the trigger fired.
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1007
More changes to pushpool this morning after sleeping on the problem.  Starting to research EU and east coast VPS and dedicated hosting providers to start setting up 1 or 2 new servers to load balance with the current one.
member
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Merit: 10
http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=7760.msg170939#msg170939

I'm also getting lots of idle time with BTCGuild. I switched back to BTCMine for this reason.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
I've been mining for 13 hours straight with 100% usage on both gpus and temps at 65C and 67C. Is it safe to run this 24/7?

That temperature is fine for chips. Worry when it gets to 80C+ (even then it'll probably be fine). Some cards idle at like 60+

Hardware will stop itself from overheating - either by drawing less power and slowing down / increasing fan speed - or turning off the computer alltogether.

Fatigue happens if the the hardware expands and contracts a lot (increase/decrease in temperature).

I imagine going between 40 - 70C wouldn't be much of a problem tbh, though I'm not an expert.

Temperature cycling is NOT fine for anything.  It causes "fatigue" wear.  Any 3rd year mechanical, civil or aerospace engineer or materials science major will know this without thinking 1 second about it.  Since there are MANY MANY parts in a board and only one needs to fail to kill it, fatigue is a nightmare for them.  Mining is not the norm for a gaming card ... gaming is.  Gaming runs at whatever is required while you are playing and then goes back to typical idle when finished.  This is cycling over long periods of time and much few times during the life of the card.  With mining, it is happening as often as once per minute in this pool.

So, sorry, but you are absolutely incorrect about the damage temperature cycling can do, even if below 70C the entire time.

I forgot hashing can use magical opcodes that games can't... oh wait!

I'm glad to see you're proud of your engineering degree. Congratz!
I'd say anyone should know that heating and cooling quickly is bad (hot water, icey windshield etc).

Tell me, how much does the card expand by going from 50C to 70C?
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