Topic: [1050 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees +MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] - page 111. (Read 837175 times)

Also if possible, feather coin.

Litecoin... we'll see. This has suggested quite a few times before.

Let's keep the ads for other pools in other threads.

Just saying but i would have never took a single GPU down if Bitminter was minting LTC. Even if it was a separate server or site.

-Just saying

I understand what you are wanting, and think it will be better than sliced cheese. I can't make that decision either, that is all up to the great and powerful Doc.

If you want scrypt, and sha-256 multipool is your place.

What aggravates me is when someone comes along and has this awesome idea and thinks it can be done with no problems.

Let's tackle this.

1. Scrypt vs SHA-256
People who mine with GPU, no problem they can do both. What about the majority who mine with asic, what are you going to do with them. ASIC cannot do scrypt, don't ask it to, it can't. That is like asking your Commodore 64 to run Windows 7, it just isn't going to happen. Now, say he adds scrypt support, now he has to add it to the program, but wait, now he has to add checks into the code to figure out if you can handle scrypt, if not then it is only sha-256 for you. Also, you can't merge mine scrypt and sha-256, so it is one or the other.

2. Backend servers.
If you have never been an admin for any major server system then you will never understand the headache that comes with this. This isn't just running XP with bitcoin-qt in the background. No, this is a linux server for reliability. Would I trust Windows Server to this task, hell no. So, most good admins will have dedicated servers, and most likely they run in a vm of some sort for cost savings. Now if he brings on scrypt he will need to add another server at each location to the mix to dedicate for scrypt backend.

3. Website compatibilities.
We don't all use FrontPage for our mainstream sites. Now it looks like he uses liftweb to author his site, but someone still has to re-code a majority of the templates to add scrypt functionality. That also brings back to the servers, the servers have to be able to send sql data for the site to be used, and convert some of the data to json for the api.

Alot has to go into this for someone who I would imaging has a day job and does this on the side.

I am an admin, so that is why this sounds like it sounds. I'm the guy that cringes when he gets called for support because of something incredibly stupid, or has to replace a power adapter because "my dog chewed it again."

If you want to be on a pool that has both scrypt and sha-256, multipool.us is where to go. Multipool has some nice features, but you will need to setup your mining program to use it.

All the best,
Michael

No, I don't have any idea how much effort it will take. What I do know is that the end result is brilliant. And that's what us three think should be replicated to Litecoin.
I'm fully aware that such decision is not mine to make, but I don't think I should shy away from highlighting where else BitMinter would be much appreciated.

For everyone asking for litecoin. You do realize it is not just adding support into the gui, he would have to add the support into the backend servers, change api protocols, change the site to parse the additional information.

This isn't just adding a view lines of code, this is dedicating weeks to something that is already available, adding another server, and more.

If you want to get into litecoin as a newbie, download gui miner, point it to multipool and have fun.

What makes bitminter so great for beginners, is the availabity of the quick start interface that is cross platform compatible.

Michael

+1

When I started looking into cryptomining in this forum I reached the conclusion that BitMinter would be the best way for me to mine, especially at the beginning while I read more into the subject while the PC mined. Now that Bitcoin's difficulty pushed every GPU miner to Litecoin, I had to spend a couple of days investigating how to get CGMiner to use both my 6950s to the best of its ability, and also tweak the intensity of GPU 0 so that I can still use the PC (random browsing, youtube, facebook, farmville, etc.) at the same time the GPUs mine.

I really think BitMinter's advanced GUI would be a great way for newcomers to get into Litecoins.

Sweet !

So if my hashrate is 600Ghs, then I would want to seet my worker min diff to 429 if were rounding up to the next whole.

Ah, I see I was wondering why my proofs of work number was increasing by 2's. Thanks for the explanation

Every submitted share, regardless of its value, is counted as "worker difficulty" proofs of work (normalized to a difficulty of 1). So if your worker difficulty is 2, and you submitted a 10/2 share, it would be counted as 2 shares (proofs of work) of difficulty 1.

Using a worker difficulty of 2 means that you will submit 1/2 as many shares per unit time as someone with the same hashrate using a worker difficulty of 1. The end result is the same: both scenarios submit an equal amount of "difficulty 1 equivalent" shares; the benefit of using a higher difficulty is less network traffic between you and the server and less load on the server. When using higher worker difficulties your effective hashrate will have a higher variance; that is generally neither a benefit nor drawback.

So in summary: The "10" in "10/2" makes no difference; how many 'difficulty 1 equivalent' proofs of work your submission is worth is given by the second number ... in your case, 2.

I have a small question about proofs of work and worker difficulty.
The minimum worker difficulty is currently 2, so if a worker submits a share that is difficulty 10/2, does it count as 1, 2, or 10 proofs of work?

Yeah, some innocent noob will stumble across that review site and not know it was written by someone with little more clue than themselves.

Reliability, security and price are the most important things when choosing a pool, but that has escaped the authors attention.

That's what you get working your ass off to serve lazzy people. F... it. I know that you work really hard for your pool.

P.S. I like the 5 star rating for 50BTC...

General advice, set your minimum difficulty to your hashrate in GH/s divided by 1.4. Some info on difficulty and work submits per minute:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3142713

Anything else?

Hey Doc,

Where can I find a explanation on worker settings. I just turned on the notification if one of my workers goes below a certain threshold but I see other settings in there and don't really understand them.

Thanks,
Bill

Yeah, sorry, I forgot to respond to that. It's a great idea. Not easily implemented the way stats are handled right now, but should be easy to do with the way I want to handle them in the future. So it won't be there tomorrow, but I definitely want to add that feature. Thanks for the idea.

Hey Doc, did you see my request about the stats page that was seonded and thirded ?

Yes, it is pretty impressive that we now have 430+Th worth of beginners, huh Doc? 

I definitely don't agree with the review either, but like you said, everyone is entitled to their opinion (even if it is wrong...  lol).

It still says 1.5% fee near the top. The fee is 1%, donations are whatever you choose depending on which perks you want.

I don't understand the parts about Bitminter only being for beginners, or that the support isn't good. We have some miners who have been here since the summer of 2011 when Bitminter opened, and I spend a lot of time helping users whether they are old or new. We also have users helping other users in the chat and in this forum. Oh well.. everyone is entitled to their opinion.