Sorry for the short interruption on the mining server. I had to get an important bugfix in. This should make things more stable.
Topic: [1050 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees +MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] - page 165. (Read 837101 times)
August 24, 2013, 06:29:02 PM
August 24, 2013, 04:26:51 PM
Resets suck but a slow reset works just about every time.
I turn bitminter off.
I power the hubs down.
I power the pc off.
I wait 10 minutes.
I boot.
I power the hubs.
I go to bitminter.
I wait 5 minutes.
I run the client.
I wait for all sticks to show.
I click 3 at a time. Do not rush
The 10 minute wait is just 10 minutes of mining time wasted. The 5 minute wait is another 5 minute wasted.
Why don't you just run something like bfgminer that can pick all the sticks up without all that messing about? Install the VCP USB drivers, plug in each stick and wait a second for it to be given a COM port - this is only required the first time. Then run bfgminer with the -S erupter:all parameter. Save you 15+ minutes of farting about.
I'm running a lowly 11 Erupters, and I've had them running on BitMiner for ages using bfgminer, no issues at all. 10 off a cheap hub, #11 on the USB hub on the back of my monitor.
yeah 11 sticks were easy for me to run,
129 not so easy.
I wait to allow the hubs to cool.
even with the fans I have a bit of a heat issue. But this is a piece of cake compared to 11 pcs and 23 gpus 3700 watts to run 11gh of hash. vs 450 watts to run 43gh of hash.
August 24, 2013, 03:28:43 PM
I came home to all green lights tonight and so far been trying everything for 3 hours and still not mining. Can you help. it seems others on here are having the same problem. Could it be something to do with the com port drivers?
Try using a different client, just to see if it's your hubs, your drivers, or whatever. The post I made just above this one has more info.
August 24, 2013, 03:25:58 PM
Resets suck but a slow reset works just about every time.
I turn bitminter off.
I power the hubs down.
I power the pc off.
I wait 10 minutes.
I boot.
I power the hubs.
I go to bitminter.
I wait 5 minutes.
I run the client.
I wait for all sticks to show.
I click 3 at a time. Do not rush
The 10 minute wait is just 10 minutes of mining time wasted. The 5 minute wait is another 5 minute wasted.
Why don't you just run something like bfgminer that can pick all the sticks up without all that messing about? Install the VCP USB drivers, plug in each stick and wait a second for it to be given a COM port - this is only required the first time. Then run bfgminer with the -S erupter:all parameter. Save you 15+ minutes of farting about.
I'm running a lowly 11 Erupters, and I've had them running on BitMiner for ages using bfgminer, no issues at all. 10 off a cheap hub, #11 on the USB hub on the back of my monitor.
August 24, 2013, 08:27:25 AM
So the new coins earned in a shift are not credited into the BitMinter account until the shift ends.
How long is that usually, and can someone tell me what i should be looking for when you guys are watching whether new blocks are found for the pool?
How long is that usually, and can someone tell me what i should be looking for when you guys are watching whether new blocks are found for the pool?
The work you do in a shift is credited while the shift is among the 10 latest (complete) shifts. You get nothing for blocks found before the shift is completed, and you get nothing after 10 new shifts have been completed.
This means the work you did takes a while to get fully paid. After its shift is done it starts getting paid, but it takes 10 more shifts for that work to no longer get paid. This means there is a delay of 10 shifts, about 12 hours currently, between doing some work and that work being fully paid. Be aware of that when you look at the income. Also, if you turn off the prepay perk then you need 120 confirmations on blocks before the coins go in your account, which creates an additional delay of about 20 hours (however you can see how much unconfirmed pay you have on the website).
August 24, 2013, 08:06:15 AM
The problem is actually driving me insane. I have 5 10 port hubs so 50 asicminers in total I can't startup the computer with them turned on as it won't load windows (just gets to black screen and stays there.) Once the computer is started I have tried turning them all on at once, one at a time with a minute in between so all devices are recognised. I've even tried in bitminter turning them on with auto scan for new devices. When I turn them on with bitminter active, it will normally go to 30 devices then I turn on a 4th or sometimes 5th hub and all asicminer green lights come on and nothing happens. Sometimes if I restart bitminter enough times they'll all work but it's getting a bit ridiculous. I came home to all green lights tonight and so far been trying everything for 3 hours and still not mining. Can you help. it seems others on here are having the same problem. Could it be something to do with the com port drivers?
Sounds like some really bad USB problems. Not being able to boot with everything enabled doesn't sound good.
philipma1957, did you have these sorts of problems or was it smooth sailing with that many block erupters?
well 129 sticks are a p.i.t.a. but I like the 43gh hash.
It is all about usb hubs you need good ones.
second trick is the power bricks can be garbage on some hubs.
here is a sleeper usb hub that has a bad brick but add a good brick and it runs 10 sticks
http://www.cooldrives.com/index.php/10-port-usb-3-0-aluminum-desktop-hub-with-led-activity.html
the brick below works on a lot of hubs
http://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-AD-LCD12-Monitors-Adapter-Supply/dp/B000VE7GQQ/ref=pd_cp_pc_1
here are some good hubs
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORICO-Luxury-10-Ports-Aluminium-USB3-0-Super-Speed-HUB-with-Power-Supply-Silver-/151063825722?pt=US_USB_Cables_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item232c1b0d3a
the brick will burn in a few weeks but the hub is good with the replacement brick
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aitech-USB-3-0-10-Port-Hub-with-12V-4A-Power-Adapter-VIA-VL812-Chipset-/281150535287?pt=US_USB_Cables_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item4175e0b677
same here the brick died but it works great with a replacement linked above.
the one below is a 7 the hub and the brick are good
http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Professional-Premium-Quality-Chipset/dp/B00B59BFVI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377349692&sr=8-1&keywords=viewhd+usb
Back to doing 129 sticks I have 5 usb fans to cool them I run them in my garage. 2 pcs are needed. I can get up to 85 sticks on either pc so I can expand a bit.
Resets suck but a slow reset works just about every time.
I turn bitminter off.
I power the hubs down.
I power the pc off.
I wait 10 minutes.
I boot.
I power the hubs.
I go to bitminter.
I wait 5 minutes.
I run the client.
I wait for all sticks to show.
I click 3 at a time. Do not rush
August 23, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
Howdy,
I just made the upgrade from .333 usb sticks to the nice BFL 60 Ghs Single. I can see the mining rate both on the miner and on the "live stats" page.
I emptied my past BTCs so I could see the thing in action and see if actuality corresponded to my math.
So the new coins earned in a shift are not credited into the BitMinter account until the shift ends.
How long is that usually, and can someone tell me what i should be looking for when you guys are watching whether new blocks are found for the pool?
Thanks.
ThatFatGuy
I just made the upgrade from .333 usb sticks to the nice BFL 60 Ghs Single. I can see the mining rate both on the miner and on the "live stats" page.
I emptied my past BTCs so I could see the thing in action and see if actuality corresponded to my math.
So the new coins earned in a shift are not credited into the BitMinter account until the shift ends.
How long is that usually, and can someone tell me what i should be looking for when you guys are watching whether new blocks are found for the pool?
Thanks.
ThatFatGuy
August 23, 2013, 06:03:12 PM
I've read of similar problems being down to bad and/or underpowered USB hubs. Some hubs with 7 slots will only operate correctly with 5 ASIC devices. See here for a list - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/which-usb-hub-to-use-with-block-erupters-nanofury-nf1-bpmc-red-fury-ant-u1-253749
Try using just one USB ASIC per hub and work upwards.
I'm using what Amazon lists as TechNet® USB 3.0 although the box calls them Orico USB 3.0. I've got 9 USB ASICs and a fan in some, 9 USB ASICs and a daisy-chained hub on others and hashing with BitMinter no problem.
Try using just one USB ASIC per hub and work upwards.
I'm using what Amazon lists as TechNet® USB 3.0 although the box calls them Orico USB 3.0. I've got 9 USB ASICs and a fan in some, 9 USB ASICs and a daisy-chained hub on others and hashing with BitMinter no problem.
August 23, 2013, 05:38:36 PM
The problem is actually driving me insane. I have 5 10 port hubs so 50 asicminers in total I can't startup the computer with them turned on as it won't load windows (just gets to black screen and stays there.) Once the computer is started I have tried turning them all on at once, one at a time with a minute in between so all devices are recognised. I've even tried in bitminter turning them on with auto scan for new devices. When I turn them on with bitminter active, it will normally go to 30 devices then I turn on a 4th or sometimes 5th hub and all asicminer green lights come on and nothing happens. Sometimes if I restart bitminter enough times they'll all work but it's getting a bit ridiculous. I came home to all green lights tonight and so far been trying everything for 3 hours and still not mining. Can you help. it seems others on here are having the same problem. Could it be something to do with the com port drivers?
Sounds like some really bad USB problems. Not being able to boot with everything enabled doesn't sound good.
philipma1957, did you have these sorts of problems or was it smooth sailing with that many block erupters?
August 23, 2013, 04:41:35 PM
Sometimes I see hash rate drop a little, sometimes entirely. When entirely happens it takes ages to get the miners up and running again.
I have tried all settings, I actually don't think this function works of rescanning either manually or automatically in the settings.
I have tried all settings, I actually don't think this function works of rescanning either manually or automatically in the settings.
Does the device disappear from the client? That happens if the COM port the device is on disappears, for example if you unplug the device. If so, rescanning might help, to get it back again. If the hashrate just drops to zero and stays there, maybe it is because of the device not working properly.
Do you see any error messages in the log when these things happen? That's the text area near the bottom of the window.
If the block erupter is being fed lots of work but not finding any proofs of work for a while then the client will run a test to see whether it is still functional. It sends it work from which the device should return a known proof of work. If this is not happening or the proof of work is wrong it will try again a few times before giving up on the device. If that happens it means the device is consistently giving wrong results or not responding at all and something is wrong.
The problem is actually driving me insane. I have 5 10 port hubs so 50 asicminers in total I can't startup the computer with them turned on as it won't load windows (just gets to black screen and stays there.) Once the computer is started I have tried turning them all on at once, one at a time with a minute in between so all devices are recognised. I've even tried in bitminter turning them on with auto scan for new devices. When I turn them on with bitminter active, it will normally go to 30 devices then I turn on a 4th or sometimes 5th hub and all asicminer green lights come on and nothing happens. Sometimes if I restart bitminter enough times they'll all work but it's getting a bit ridiculous. I came home to all green lights tonight and so far been trying everything for 3 hours and still not mining. Can you help. it seems others on here are having the same problem. Could it be something to do with the com port drivers?
August 23, 2013, 04:36:04 PM
No output log that reveals too much network issues. Devices seem to idle little, at least 2 from 4 units but no log output. I guess that's BFL hardware based scaling down because of HW error count. I must install network monitoring tool like prtg, changing to picuntu linux anyway but seems more this is a perhaps BFL D-grade chips caused fluctuation by temperature perhaps. 3G connection ping & up bandwidth is not too great or stable, that can perhaps affect too. Also don't know should I use higher difficulty setting like -d16. I noticed that bitminter does that dynamically so I didn't use any forced option. Been GPU mining so these ASICS & stratum protocols new to me.
The difficulty will go up automatically.
Do you see on the server that workers are idling, or on the client side? Maybe you see only hardware errors on the client side (and a hashrate), but zero hashrate on the server side, because no results are accepted?
Look for hashrate going to zero on the client side, and look for network errors or "out of work" type of errors in the log.
Webpage has been offline for a while, mining is working normally.
I botched an upgrade and it took 5 minutes instead of 5 seconds. Sorry about that. It also looks like the website can still respond slowly at times. Still working on that.
I also moved over to a forced HTTPS setup, trying to eliminate HTTP as much as possible. Let me know if there are any issues. Downloading the client and accessing the API is still possible over HTTP, otherwise that might break things for people. Maybe eventually it can be 100% HTTPS.
August 23, 2013, 04:21:12 PM
Btw. Big thanks to DrHaribo & Bitminter for great pool. Wish there was an EU server too. Have noticed that sometimes when over 18 Th and new big guns appear my hashrates plunge down over 10 Gh/s Don't know if this is an issue with my crappy 3G connection or settings or perhaps something related to network/pool connections.
Good to hear you like the pool
The pool hashrate shouldn't affect yours. And the server being further away should just increase your stale rate a tiny bit.
Are you getting messages about running out of work and devices idling? Perhaps network error messages?
No output log that reveals too much network issues. Devices seem to idle little, at least 2 from 4 units but no log output. I guess that's BFL hardware based scaling down because of HW error count. I must install network monitoring tool like prtg, changing to picuntu linux anyway but seems more this is a perhaps BFL D-grade chips caused fluctuation by temperature perhaps. 3G connection ping & up bandwidth is not too great or stable, that can perhaps affect too. Also don't know should I use higher difficulty setting like -d16. I noticed that bitminter does that dynamically so I didn't use any forced option. Been GPU mining so these ASICS & stratum protocols new to me.
August 23, 2013, 02:04:16 PM
Is there a function for last 24 hours / current day / current month income? :p
Not yet, that's on my list.
Thanks! 
August 23, 2013, 12:55:23 PM
Webpage has been offline for a while, mining is working normally.
August 23, 2013, 12:25:01 PM
I just got in 20 more AM STICKS I am running 129 of them my hash is at an all time high of 43000.. that is good news here is some bad news on my bfl jally wait. it seems both bfl and i were confused about my early jan 2013 order and it does not exist so there goes 2x jallys down the drain. Here is a post/thread about it.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/post-sales-customer-service/4478-confused-about-my-jan-25th-2013-order-yesterday-good-now-cancelled.html
8 months back when I first paid for it. well the error appears to have been started by bfl and compounded by me. there was a time stuff like this would anger me. well I am interested in how they will fix it.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/post-sales-customer-service/4478-confused-about-my-jan-25th-2013-order-yesterday-good-now-cancelled.html
8 months back when I first paid for it. well the error appears to have been started by bfl and compounded by me. there was a time stuff like this would anger me. well I am interested in how they will fix it.
August 23, 2013, 11:37:58 AM
Btw. Big thanks to DrHaribo & Bitminter for great pool. Wish there was an EU server too. Have noticed that sometimes when over 18 Th and new big guns appear my hashrates plunge down over 10 Gh/s Don't know if this is an issue with my crappy 3G connection or settings or perhaps something related to network/pool connections.
Good to hear you like the pool
The pool hashrate shouldn't affect yours. And the server being further away should just increase your stale rate a tiny bit.
Are you getting messages about running out of work and devices idling? Perhaps network error messages?
August 23, 2013, 11:07:29 AM
Perhaps this has something to do that avg block generation time is now Blocks/hour 8.39 / 429 s so the network is balancing difficulty in exponential curve also? So as long as difficulty rises too fast "bad luck" will occur.Btw. Big thanks to DrHaribo & Bitminter for great pool. Wish there was an EU server too. Have noticed that sometimes when over 18 Th and new big guns appear my hashrates plunge down over 10 Gh/s Don't know if this is an issue with my crappy 3G connection or settings or perhaps something related to network/pool connections.
August 23, 2013, 10:51:37 AM
Just talking about it , it just dropped at 36% 1h32m . Maybe next one will be also under 1h00m.
So you basically say, we should keep on talking about the blocks flying in and they will do so then?
Astonishing! I wonder when the next on will be ...I am going to think 33.333%
Or just think 33 and 1/3 like a old school record player. I will do this 33 times a day.
Probability that a block will be solved is increased by the amount of posts about it .
btw another one just drooped.
August 23, 2013, 09:51:30 AM
Is there a function for last 24 hours / current day / current month income? :p
Not yet, that's on my list.
August 23, 2013, 09:35:00 AM
Just talking about it , it just dropped at 36% 1h32m . Maybe next one will be also under 1h00m.
So you basically say, we should keep on talking about the blocks flying in and they will do so then?
Astonishing! I wonder when the next on will be ...Soon. Very, very soon. No need to even check, just rest assured that by the end of the day there will be several blocks in the queue waiting for confirmation. Believe.
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