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Topic: [1050 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees +MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] - page 273. (Read 837122 times)

legendary
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Difficulty is from 1 to 128 (powers of 2). The default is diff 2 unless your miner sends X-Mining-Hashrate in which case the default is based off of that. After this the diff updates every minute based on your hashrate.

Can you please explain how you decide what diff to server with X-Mining-Hashrate?

Normally your measured hashrate is used. X-Mining-Hashrate, if available, is only used in the beginning when the server has not yet measured your hashrate.

The target is set to 15 proofs of work per minute. That's one result sent in every 4 seconds. The server will adjust the difficulty of your work to get you as close to the target rate as possible. You will need a couple GH/s to get over diff 1. No luck for me with 1.3 GH/s Cheesy

Is this per worker or per user?

This is per worker.
vip
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Testing is up on port 9000 again. This time testing dynamic difficulty (aka var diff or variable difficulty).

Please help testing: mint.bitminter.com port 9000

Yay. Hopefully I can help test this in a couple days.

Difficulty is from 1 to 128 (powers of 2). The default is diff 2 unless your miner sends X-Mining-Hashrate in which case the default is based off of that. After this the diff updates every minute based on your hashrate.

Can you please explain how you decide what diff to server with X-Mining-Hashrate?

The target is set to 15 proofs of work per minute. That's one result sent in every 4 seconds. The server will adjust the difficulty of your work to get you as close to the target rate as possible. You will need a couple GH/s to get over diff 1. No luck for me with 1.3 GH/s Cheesy

Is this per worker or per user?
hero member
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Manateeeeeeees
We'll see if 4GH is enough to get more diff.
legendary
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Testing is up on port 9000 again. This time testing dynamic difficulty (aka var diff or variable difficulty).

Please help testing: mint.bitminter.com port 9000

Difficulty is from 1 to 128 (powers of 2). The default is diff 2 unless your miner sends X-Mining-Hashrate in which case the default is based off of that. After this the diff updates every minute based on your hashrate.

The target is set to 15 proofs of work per minute. That's one result sent in every 4 seconds. The server will adjust the difficulty of your work to get you as close to the target rate as possible. You will need a couple GH/s to get over diff 1. No luck for me with 1.3 GH/s Cheesy

When mining at diff X you get credited X accepted work for each valid result sent in. So mining at diff 4 means your "accepted" numbers will go up by 4 for each valid result.

Like last time the livestats won't show your hashrate on the test port. But you can look at the "workers" page on the website, mine for a bit, then refresh and see that the accepted work goes up. Note that those stats are a few seconds delayed. The livestats will work better once proper multi-server support is finished on the server side.

You can't use BitMinter client for this yet, sorry, multi-server support is still on its TODO list.

Let me know how it runs. Smiley
donator
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Google search yielded this historical data (you may have access to some better data but this okay for me)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmcTCtjBoRWUdHVRMHpqWUJValI1RlZiaEtCT1RrQmc#gid=0

I am most interested in data after the bubble so I grabbed the dates from 9/13/11 to 10/16/12. I dumped that data into a spreadsheet and created a scatter plot of difficulty vs price. Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al7wzGJVtBaQdFpObzVuZWI4OU1PMkdDY3ptYkZNZFE#gid=0

You can already see the positive-linear relationship in the graph. For some reason Google spreadsheet does not allow you to add a trendline so I threw it into excel and got a linear equation of:

y = 5E-06x - 2.1471
And an r-squared coefficient of
R² = 0.8541

Which means there is a pretty substantial, positive correlation between the difficulty and the market value of a bitcoin.

Thanks for the good work, abeaulieu. It does look like a good correlation, there. It inspired me to look a little further back and I got the following plots, the first linear and the second log-log. They are quite interesting, yes? I won't go further off-topic here discussing covariance and correlation coefficients, perhaps we should start a thread in the mining speculation board? (it's late for me and I don't have time to write an introductory piece).

Suffice it to say that the correlation seems to be less strong if you include the pre-bubble data, so I'd be cautious relying on such a correlation for future planning. My guess is that there might be a more stable correlation between log(diff(BTCUSD)) and log(diff(Difficulty)), with a time lag.



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24 Blocks yesterday  Grin 

nice nice
vip
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Which means there is a pretty substantial, positive correlation between the difficulty and the market value of a bitcoin.

Thanks abeaulieu. That was almost completely above my pay grade.

* gigavps watches the plane fly over his head...  Wink
sr. member
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An actual quantitative correlation? I ask only because I'd like to know how you calculated it.

Maybe my language was a little too strong. From my personal observation over the last 14 months of mining, I've seen correlation in that the price of bitcoin effects what happens with the difficulty. There is also significant lag between price movement and the difficulty following.

I suspect that if the price falls any further, mining will become unprofitable for some and difficulty will decrease. This may be offset a bit with miners starting to realize that we are in the final month of 50 btc blocks.

I don't disagree with you and what you write makes sense, but there must be some kind of simple correlation analysis that can be done. If you (or anyone else) can save me a bit of google-time to tell me what it is I'd be grateful.

Google search yielded this historical data (you may have access to some better data but this okay for me)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmcTCtjBoRWUdHVRMHpqWUJValI1RlZiaEtCT1RrQmc#gid=0

I am most interested in data after the bubble so I grabbed the dates from 9/13/11 to 10/16/12. I dumped that data into a spreadsheet and created a scatter plot of difficulty vs price. Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al7wzGJVtBaQdFpObzVuZWI4OU1PMkdDY3ptYkZNZFE#gid=0

You can already see the positive-linear relationship in the graph. For some reason Google spreadsheet does not allow you to add a trendline so I threw it into excel and got a linear equation of:

y = 5E-06x - 2.1471
And an r-squared coefficient of
R² = 0.8541

Which means there is a pretty substantial, positive correlation between the difficulty and the market value of a bitcoin.
donator
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21 blocks allready today, It`s a new record!  Grin
We still have time for more  Cheesy

Greetz



sr. member
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sr. member
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Awesome, looking forward to it!  I never wear any of those items except for cufflinks at the occasional wedding, but I'd probably find an excuse to wear BTC gear like this.
legendary
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Another mint race coming up next weekend with some nice trinkets from Isokivi for prizes.

Check it out: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/finished-mint-race-weekend-3-win-btc-trinkets-120864
donator
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Poor impulse control.
An actual quantitative correlation? I ask only because I'd like to know how you calculated it.

Maybe my language was a little too strong. From my personal observation over the last 14 months of mining, I've seen correlation in that the price of bitcoin effects what happens with the difficulty. There is also significant lag between price movement and the difficulty following.

I suspect that if the price falls any further, mining will become unprofitable for some and difficulty will decrease. This may be offset a bit with miners starting to realize that we are in the final month of 50 btc blocks.

I don't disagree with you and what you write makes sense, but there must be some kind of simple correlation analysis that can be done. If you (or anyone else) can save me a bit of google-time to tell me what it is I'd be grateful.
vip
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000
AKA: gigavps
An actual quantitative correlation? I ask only because I'd like to know how you calculated it.

Maybe my language was a little too strong. From my personal observation over the last 14 months of mining, I've seen correlation in that the price of bitcoin effects what happens with the difficulty. There is also significant lag between price movement and the difficulty following.

I suspect that if the price falls any further, mining will become unprofitable for some and difficulty will decrease. This may be offset a bit with miners starting to realize that we are in the final month of 50 btc blocks.
donator
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1007
Poor impulse control.
prices freefalling but difficulty still skyrocketing.

There is no direct correlation on price vs difficulty.

Meh, I tend to disagree. But, to each his own.

There most certainly is correlation in that price effects difficulty. Difficulty however, does not effect price.

http://bitcoinx.com/charts/chart_large_lin.png

An actual quantitative correlation? I ask only because I'd like to know how you calculated it.
vip
Activity: 1358
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AKA: gigavps
prices freefalling but difficulty still skyrocketing.

There is no direct correlation on price vs difficulty.

Meh, I tend to disagree. But, to each his own.

There most certainly is correlation in that price effects difficulty. Difficulty however, does not effect price.

http://bitcoinx.com/charts/chart_large_lin.png
sr. member
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prices freefalling but difficulty still skyrocketing.

There is no direct correlation on price vs difficulty.

Meh, I tend to disagree. But, to each his own.
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I know difficulty lags significantly behind price movement, was just making the observation.
hero member
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prices freefalling but difficulty still skyrocketing.

There is no direct correlation on price vs difficulty.
sr. member
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prices freefalling but difficulty still skyrocketing.
Somebody seems to have confidence at this level...Going back up a bit.
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