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Quote from: moocoin on January 23, 2014, 09:38:28 PM

Just a heads up.
During the tournament, we collected over 1,100 BTC in TestNet coins. We just donated these coins back to the TestNet faucets:
550 coins to TP's TestNet Faucet
550 coins to MojoCoin

Here are the transactions in case anyone cares

http://blockexplorer.com/testnet/tx/cc3c9bf8655479f7afb018907468bda3da2f760ac76fde70a44f5633b501b930
http://blockexplorer.com/testnet/tx/c4dce9e2ac16dae41ab51fe3647501c3fc3d89b0c72809eff0b8b28e151c2004

Thanks,
MooCoin

That's very responsible of you. Will there be another contest like this? I missed out on most of this.

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Just a heads up.
During the tournament, we collected over 1,100 BTC in TestNet coins. We just donated these coins back to the TestNet faucets:
550 coins to TP's TestNet Faucet
550 coins to MojoCoin

Here are the transactions in case anyone cares

http://blockexplorer.com/testnet/tx/cc3c9bf8655479f7afb018907468bda3da2f760ac76fde70a44f5633b501b930
http://blockexplorer.com/testnet/tx/c4dce9e2ac16dae41ab51fe3647501c3fc3d89b0c72809eff0b8b28e151c2004

Thanks,
MooCoin

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Quote from: FUR11 on January 23, 2014, 09:00:45 PM

Quote from: moocoin on January 23, 2014, 08:46:05 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on January 23, 2014, 08:36:14 PM

Quote from: moocoin on January 23, 2014, 08:26:28 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on January 23, 2014, 08:12:05 PM

I'm a little curious as to why my account that went 95-0 didn't win the best win:loss ratio leaderboard. Seems like 100% should beat 99.68%.

Yep - totally fair question. We use a weighting algorithm as described in the rules. More specifically, we use the lower bound of the Wilson interval at a 95% confidence interval to calculate the rankings. This makes it so that someone who wins 999/1000 games ranks higher than someone who won 1/1 games. Clearly the guy who won 999/1000 is more likely to be the better player.

Thanks,
MooCoin

That makes sense. I guess my only argument would be that the leader-board doesn't say "best player" it says "best win:loss ratio". And a 1:0 ratio is better then a 999:1 ratio. If you wanted to figure out the best player, it seems like it would be some sort of ELO rating system or something. It's nitpicky on my end, sure, but the whole leaderboard bot stress test system seemed to be built around being nitpicky.

Nah - I don't think it's nitpicky. The reality is that we were going to do a straight ratio, then decided to go ahead and do something better (Wilson interval), and neglected to go back and change the subtitle from "ratio" to "ranking". We did clarify our calculation in the rules but you're right - we should have changed it from ratio.

For the day-to-day play, the leaderboards will be for fun. Before we run our next tournament (on the MainNet!!!), we're going to implement ELO to take into account the relative strength of players. This will become even more important as we create more and more skill-based games.

Thanks for the feedback and sorry if it wasn't clear how we were ranking players.
MooCoin

I understand. Bummer I wasted my time on something that wasn't clear, but it was only a few hours and honestly I'll probably play on the site once it's up for real btc because the hi/low game is really fun and seems like something that has a skill element to it (and I used to love watching Card Sharks).

Thanks. We look forward to having you join the live site. We have even more games in store, as well.

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Quote from: moocoin on January 23, 2014, 08:46:05 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on January 23, 2014, 08:36:14 PM

Quote from: moocoin on January 23, 2014, 08:26:28 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on January 23, 2014, 08:12:05 PM

I'm a little curious as to why my account that went 95-0 didn't win the best win:loss ratio leaderboard. Seems like 100% should beat 99.68%.

Yep - totally fair question. We use a weighting algorithm as described in the rules. More specifically, we use the lower bound of the Wilson interval at a 95% confidence interval to calculate the rankings. This makes it so that someone who wins 999/1000 games ranks higher than someone who won 1/1 games. Clearly the guy who won 999/1000 is more likely to be the better player.

Thanks,
MooCoin

That makes sense. I guess my only argument would be that the leader-board doesn't say "best player" it says "best win:loss ratio". And a 1:0 ratio is better then a 999:1 ratio. If you wanted to figure out the best player, it seems like it would be some sort of ELO rating system or something. It's nitpicky on my end, sure, but the whole leaderboard bot stress test system seemed to be built around being nitpicky.

Nah - I don't think it's nitpicky. The reality is that we were going to do a straight ratio, then decided to go ahead and do something better (Wilson interval), and neglected to go back and change the subtitle from "ratio" to "ranking". We did clarify our calculation in the rules but you're right - we should have changed it from ratio.

For the day-to-day play, the leaderboards will be for fun. Before we run our next tournament (on the MainNet!!!), we're going to implement ELO to take into account the relative strength of players. This will become even more important as we create more and more skill-based games.

Thanks for the feedback and sorry if it wasn't clear how we were ranking players.
MooCoin

I understand. Bummer I wasted my time on something that wasn't clear, but it was only a few hours and honestly I'll probably play on the site once it's up for real btc because the hi/low game is really fun and seems like something that has a skill element to it (and I used to love watching Card Sharks).

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Quote from: FUR11 on January 23, 2014, 08:36:14 PM

Quote from: moocoin on January 23, 2014, 08:26:28 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on January 23, 2014, 08:12:05 PM

I'm a little curious as to why my account that went 95-0 didn't win the best win:loss ratio leaderboard. Seems like 100% should beat 99.68%.

Yep - totally fair question. We use a weighting algorithm as described in the rules. More specifically, we use the lower bound of the Wilson interval at a 95% confidence interval to calculate the rankings. This makes it so that someone who wins 999/1000 games ranks higher than someone who won 1/1 games. Clearly the guy who won 999/1000 is more likely to be the better player.

Thanks,
MooCoin

That makes sense. I guess my only argument would be that the leader-board doesn't say "best player" it says "best win:loss ratio". And a 1:0 ratio is better then a 999:1 ratio. If you wanted to figure out the best player, it seems like it would be some sort of ELO rating system or something. It's nitpicky on my end, sure, but the whole leaderboard bot stress test system seemed to be built around being nitpicky.

Nah - I don't think it's nitpicky. The reality is that we were going to do a straight ratio, then decided to go ahead and do something better (Wilson interval), and neglected to go back and change the subtitle from "ratio" to "ranking". We did clarify our calculation in the rules but you're right - we should have changed it from ratio.

For the day-to-day play, the leaderboards will be for fun. Before we run our next tournament (on the MainNet!!!), we're going to implement ELO to take into account the relative strength of players. This will become even more important as we create more and more skill-based games.

Thanks for the feedback and sorry if it wasn't clear how we were ranking players.
MooCoin

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I almost got lost because it could not keep pace with the speed of play.. Cheesy

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Quote from: moocoin on January 23, 2014, 08:26:28 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on January 23, 2014, 08:12:05 PM

I'm a little curious as to why my account that went 95-0 didn't win the best win:loss ratio leaderboard. Seems like 100% should beat 99.68%.

Yep - totally fair question. We use a weighting algorithm as described in the rules. More specifically, we use the lower bound of the Wilson interval at a 95% confidence interval to calculate the rankings. This makes it so that someone who wins 999/1000 games ranks higher than someone who won 1/1 games. Clearly the guy who won 999/1000 is more likely to be the better player.

Thanks,
MooCoin

That makes sense. I guess my only argument would be that the leader-board doesn't say "best player" it says "best win:loss ratio". And a 1:0 ratio is better then a 999:1 ratio. If you wanted to figure out the best player, it seems like it would be some sort of ELO rating system or something. It's nitpicky on my end, sure, but the whole leaderboard bot stress test system seemed to be built around being nitpicky.

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Quote from: FUR11 on January 23, 2014, 08:12:05 PM

I'm a little curious as to why my account that went 95-0 didn't win the best win:loss ratio leaderboard. Seems like 100% should beat 99.68%.

Yep - totally fair question. We use a weighting algorithm as described in the rules. More specifically, we use the lower bound of the Wilson interval at a 95% confidence interval to calculate the rankings. This makes it so that someone who wins 999/1000 games ranks higher than someone who won 1/1 games. Clearly the guy who won 999/1000 is more likely to be the better player.

Thanks,
MooCoin

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I'm a little curious as to why my account that went 95-0 didn't win the best win:loss ratio leaderboard. Seems like 100% should beat 99.68%.

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Hi Everyone!

The Release Candidate Tournament is now over!
Congratulations to our winners, and thanks to everyone who was on the site and helped us get the system ready for launch. We learned a LOT about running the system at scale and that's going to help us make the launch even better for you, the players!

We're going to make some changes to the system before we go live, but they won't take long. Stay tuned to BitCoinTalk.org for our launch announcement, or check back at www.moocoin.com

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If you won, please email us at [email protected] as soon as possible to collect your 0.2 BTC reward!

Thanks!
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to PUB92af0fb5316f...

I'm very tired chasing ratings 1.. Sad

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ok sir.. i understand..

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Quote from: PendiCoin88 on January 18, 2014, 06:10:48 PM

then what steps should I do in order to make a withdrawal?

Thanks..

Just withdraw to a TestNet address.
As stated above, MooCoin is not running on the bitcoin network right now. It's not using real bitcoins. We're using the fake "TestNet" bitcoins in order to test the system before our launch. You can't withdraw testNet bitcoins to a "real" bitcoin address.

Sorry for the confusion,
MooCoin

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then what steps should I do in order to make a withdrawal?

Thanks..

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Quote from: PendiCoin88 on January 18, 2014, 04:45:22 PM

Hello Sir..
Why I can't withdrawal..

notice
"Sorry. You entered an invalid amount to withdraw."

Sorry - the problem is that this is the wrong error message.
You're trying to withdrawal the coins to a mainnet address, and MooCoin is currently running on TestNet. If you use a TestNet address, the withdrawal will work.

Also, I'll go fix the error message.

Thanks!
MooCoin

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Quote from: PendiCoin88 on January 18, 2014, 05:40:02 PM

Quote from: moocoin on January 18, 2014, 05:30:50 PM

The miners fee is .0001 btc, so your withdrawal is zero after the miners fee. We need a better message for the case where you're withdrawing exactly .0001. Can you try .00011 and see if that works?

the miners fee is .0001 btc.. i'm withdrawal .0010 btc.. but can't withdrawal sir..

Sorry. I missed the decimal place. Let me go take a look.

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Quote from: moocoin on January 18, 2014, 05:30:50 PM

The miners fee is .0001 btc, so your withdrawal is zero after the miners fee. We need a better message for the case where you're withdrawing exactly .0001. Can you try .00011 and see if that works?

the miners fee is .0001 btc.. i'm withdrawal .0010 btc.. but can't withdrawal sir..

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The miners fee is .0001 btc, so your withdrawal is zero after the miners fee. We need a better message for the case where you're withdrawing exactly .0001. Can you try .00011 and see if that works?

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Hello Sir..
Why I can't withdrawal..

notice
"Sorry. You entered an invalid amount to withdraw."

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