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November 21, 2017, 12:36:40 AM
#45

 Cryptonight on Vega is very high profitability right now, if you can get your Vega doing the frequently quoted 1800-2000 hashrate ballpark (this seems to require use of Windows 10 or PERHAPS LINUX, though I wonder how you get the cards to undervolt enough in LINUX to support higher core clocks without overheating or exceeding TDP).
 Forget trying it on Windows 7, even though AMD *CLAIMS* the blockchain driver works on 7 it does not work AT ALL in every attempt I've made to get it working - either constant crashyness on known good hardware, or doesn't recognize the GPUs at all.

 The $399 price point for Vega 56 seems to have been a VERY short lived abberation - 2 or 3 days at most.


I have 2 x 64s (Sapphires) and 2 x 56s (GA) coming next week -- so whats my chances of getting these to work on WIN10 ?

 Good - and at this point that is your ONLY choice for getting high performance out of them, as AMD is being VERY VERY SLOW about getting Vega support working in AMD-GPU Pro for LINUX.

 After much pain and tribulation, I DID finally my 56 to run at high speed on XMR - using Cast as I'm pointing the miner at Nicehash for now and XMR-Stak STILL does not support Nicehash.
 It's a major pain having to "disable" and "enable" the card after EVERY BOOT to get it to do high speeds though, but nothing else I tried out to get it to work right gets the job done.

 Usage of Afterburner vs usage of JunkWattman doesn't seem to matter - neither support undervolt on the blockchain driver, and otherwise they're more or less equal about getting stuff configured (except that Afterburner STILL blows Wattman away on fan control, NO CONTEST, and is just overall easier to use and work with by a TON).

 Sapphire Vega RX 56, not BIOS flashed (though Cast identifies it as having 64 compute units ANYWAY), runs about 1940 hash/s at -10 TDP 940 memclock and core downclocked in Afterburner to 1400 (or -10% core on Junkman).
 Didn't play much with the settings, as it seems like adjusting them CAUSES the hashrate to back down to the under 1400 range every time I tried until the "uninstall/reinstall" trick is done AGAIN.
 I also noticed that adjusting the settings caused the memory clock to reset to 800 Mhz and NOT BE FURTHER ADJUSTABLE a lot of the time - which contributes to the low hashrate issue.

 Not sure how long I'm going to put up with this very unstable BUGGY AS HECK setup, as I have another use I'd like to put the card back to.


 I can verify that Cast doesn't seem to CARE about that "HBCC" setting in Wattman - if I had this whole mess to do over again, I'd install JUST the driver and nothing else in the hopes of eliminating some of the buggyness.





Ugh this is stressing me out just reading it xD I can definitely feel the anger you've had at these rig(s) lol -- we have all been there!
Whats the other use you'll put it back to and @Citronick have you gotten your cards yet?

QuintLeo has the setup gotten any better? If you've gotten it stable it has to be pretty lucrative
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November 19, 2017, 05:59:18 PM
#44
Really nice rig, I only wish my electricity price wasn't so high, would really like to build something like that myself. Keep up the good work!
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November 19, 2017, 04:24:02 PM
#43
Nice work and video! Thank You! Wink
legendary
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November 19, 2017, 04:10:11 PM
#42
Saw that one and pulled a couple ideas out of it - but can't run Stak as I'm pointing to Nicehash so I have to run Cast.

 Hashrate seems to be pretty similar between the two of them (I think they use the same "core" Wolf0 wrote).

 Someone needs to update a Monero miner so it does NOT need that bloody "blockchain" driver to get good hashrate though - I'm pretty sure most of the changes the Blockchain driver made have been rolled into the most recent "standard" drivers - and that Blockchain driver is buggy unstable junk when you can get it to work at ALL.


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November 19, 2017, 05:23:43 AM
#41

 Cryptonight on Vega is very high profitability right now, if you can get your Vega doing the frequently quoted 1800-2000 hashrate ballpark (this seems to require use of Windows 10 or PERHAPS LINUX, though I wonder how you get the cards to undervolt enough in LINUX to support higher core clocks without overheating or exceeding TDP).
 Forget trying it on Windows 7, even though AMD *CLAIMS* the blockchain driver works on 7 it does not work AT ALL in every attempt I've made to get it working - either constant crashyness on known good hardware, or doesn't recognize the GPUs at all.

 The $399 price point for Vega 56 seems to have been a VERY short lived abberation - 2 or 3 days at most.


I have 2 x 64s (Sapphires) and 2 x 56s (GA) coming next week -- so whats my chances of getting these to work on WIN10 ?

 Good - and at this point that is your ONLY choice for getting high performance out of them, as AMD is being VERY VERY SLOW about getting Vega support working in AMD-GPU Pro for LINUX.

 After much pain and tribulation, I DID finally my 56 to run at high speed on XMR - using Cast as I'm pointing the miner at Nicehash for now and XMR-Stak STILL does not support Nicehash.
 It's a major pain having to "disable" and "enable" the card after EVERY BOOT to get it to do high speeds though, but nothing else I tried out to get it to work right gets the job done.

 Usage of Afterburner vs usage of JunkWattman doesn't seem to matter - neither support undervolt on the blockchain driver, and otherwise they're more or less equal about getting stuff configured (except that Afterburner STILL blows Wattman away on fan control, NO CONTEST, and is just overall easier to use and work with by a TON).

 Sapphire Vega RX 56, not BIOS flashed (though Cast identifies it as having 64 compute units ANYWAY), runs about 1940 hash/s at -10 TDP 940 memclock and core downclocked in Afterburner to 1400 (or -10% core on Junkman).
 Didn't play much with the settings, as it seems like adjusting them CAUSES the hashrate to back down to the under 1400 range every time I tried until the "uninstall/reinstall" trick is done AGAIN.
 I also noticed that adjusting the settings caused the memory clock to reset to 800 Mhz and NOT BE FURTHER ADJUSTABLE a lot of the time - which contributes to the low hashrate issue.

 Not sure how long I'm going to put up with this very unstable BUGGY AS HECK setup, as I have another use I'd like to put the card back to.


 I can verify that Cast doesn't seem to CARE about that "HBCC" setting in Wattman - if I had this whole mess to do over again, I'd install JUST the driver and nothing else in the hopes of eliminating some of the buggyness.






https://vegamining.blogspot.co.uk/  Check this out, it really helped fine tune my rig.
legendary
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November 19, 2017, 04:22:47 AM
#40

 Cryptonight on Vega is very high profitability right now, if you can get your Vega doing the frequently quoted 1800-2000 hashrate ballpark (this seems to require use of Windows 10 or PERHAPS LINUX, though I wonder how you get the cards to undervolt enough in LINUX to support higher core clocks without overheating or exceeding TDP).
 Forget trying it on Windows 7, even though AMD *CLAIMS* the blockchain driver works on 7 it does not work AT ALL in every attempt I've made to get it working - either constant crashyness on known good hardware, or doesn't recognize the GPUs at all.

 The $399 price point for Vega 56 seems to have been a VERY short lived abberation - 2 or 3 days at most.


I have 2 x 64s (Sapphires) and 2 x 56s (GA) coming next week -- so whats my chances of getting these to work on WIN10 ?

 Good - and at this point that is your ONLY choice for getting high performance out of them, as AMD is being VERY VERY SLOW about getting Vega support working in AMD-GPU Pro for LINUX.

 After much pain and tribulation, I DID finally my 56 to run at high speed on XMR - using Cast as I'm pointing the miner at Nicehash for now and XMR-Stak STILL does not support Nicehash.
 It's a major pain having to "disable" and "enable" the card after EVERY BOOT to get it to do high speeds though, but nothing else I tried out to get it to work right gets the job done.

 Usage of Afterburner vs usage of JunkWattman doesn't seem to matter - neither support undervolt on the blockchain driver, and otherwise they're more or less equal about getting stuff configured (except that Afterburner STILL blows Wattman away on fan control, NO CONTEST, and is just overall easier to use and work with by a TON).

 Sapphire Vega RX 56, not BIOS flashed (though Cast identifies it as having 64 compute units ANYWAY), runs about 1940 hash/s at -10 TDP 940 memclock and core downclocked in Afterburner to 1400 (or -10% core on Junkman).
 Didn't play much with the settings, as it seems like adjusting them CAUSES the hashrate to back down to the under 1400 range every time I tried until the "uninstall/reinstall" trick is done AGAIN.
 I also noticed that adjusting the settings caused the memory clock to reset to 800 Mhz and NOT BE FURTHER ADJUSTABLE a lot of the time - which contributes to the low hashrate issue.

 Not sure how long I'm going to put up with this very unstable BUGGY AS HECK setup, as I have another use I'd like to put the card back to.


 I can verify that Cast doesn't seem to CARE about that "HBCC" setting in Wattman - if I had this whole mess to do over again, I'd install JUST the driver and nothing else in the hopes of eliminating some of the buggyness.




legendary
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November 18, 2017, 03:35:53 PM
#39
Interesting that you'll need only 6xVega56 (950watt) to have the same earnings as your monster 12x1080ti zec rig ))


Show your calc's. There is no way.


OP, it is recommended to power the risers with the SAME psu used to power said gpu.

@rednoW What calc leads you to believe that?
Sorry for late answer. Cryptonight-based coins was twice profitable with Vega then 1080ti with lower power consumption. And still are good.

 Cryptonight on Vega is very high profitability right now, if you can get your Vega doing the frequently quoted 1800-2000 hashrate ballpark (this seems to require use of Windows 10 or PERHAPS LINUX, though I wonder how you get the cards to undervolt enough in LINUX to support higher core clocks without overheating or exceeding TDP).
 Forget trying it on Windows 7, even though AMD *CLAIMS* the blockchain driver works on 7 it does not work AT ALL in every attempt I've made to get it working - either constant crashyness on known good hardware, or doesn't recognize the GPUs at all.

 The $399 price point for Vega 56 seems to have been a VERY short lived abberation - 2 or 3 days at most.


I have 2 x 64s (Sapphires) and 2 x 56s (GA) coming next week -- so whats my chances of getting these to work on WIN10 ?
legendary
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November 18, 2017, 03:16:09 PM
#38
Interesting that you'll need only 6xVega56 (950watt) to have the same earnings as your monster 12x1080ti zec rig ))


Show your calc's. There is no way.


OP, it is recommended to power the risers with the SAME psu used to power said gpu.

@rednoW What calc leads you to believe that?
Sorry for late answer. Cryptonight-based coins was twice profitable with Vega then 1080ti with lower power consumption. And still are good.

 Cryptonight on Vega is very high profitability right now, if you can get your Vega doing the frequently quoted 1800-2000 hashrate ballpark (this seems to require use of Windows 10 or PERHAPS LINUX, though I wonder how you get the cards to undervolt enough in LINUX to support higher core clocks without overheating or exceeding TDP).
 Forget trying it on Windows 7, even though AMD *CLAIMS* the blockchain driver works on 7 it does not work AT ALL in every attempt I've made to get it working - either constant crashyness on known good hardware, or doesn't recognize the GPUs at all.

 The $399 price point for Vega 56 seems to have been a VERY short lived abberation - 2 or 3 days at most.
sr. member
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November 18, 2017, 11:27:04 AM
#37
  Thanks for all the work you put into your youtube channel Vosk. You got me into mining. I try to help back with your affiliate links.
thanks bullvied I really appreciate that man and thanks again for using my links that really helps me out Cheesy That's awesome I helped get you into mining / I owe it to this forum for helping me to get into mining so I'm glad I can make a semi decent tutorial xD

Any videos you'd like to see me make in the future?
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November 17, 2017, 08:11:51 AM
#36
Hey Vosk, I got a question for you. I am running a somewhat similar rig such as yours, only it is the Zotac 1082 TI's. One question, Have you ever experienced the cards turning off mid mining due to the fans shutting off because of heat?
 
What should I do regarding it? Should I arrange them in a way that increases airflow?
Post a pic? Whats your frame setup? At a minimum I'd put a fan in front of or behind pushing/pulling the hot air off them and bringing more cool air faster
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November 17, 2017, 08:10:32 AM
#35
Amazing rig... 12x 1080Ti is sick. Would cost me over £9000 to build that rig in the UK lol... I wish i had a bigger credit card lol Ill just struggle to get my 6x 1060 6GB rig up Tongue
haha hey man you can always apply for another! 0% apr for X months is a beautiful thing //nothing ventured nothing gained
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November 17, 2017, 08:09:46 AM
#34
Interesting that you'll need only 6xVega56 (950watt) to have the same earnings as your monster 12x1080ti zec rig ))


Show your calc's. There is no way.


OP, it is recommended to power the risers with the SAME psu used to power said gpu.

@rednoW What calc leads you to believe that?
Sorry for late answer. Cryptonight-based coins was twice profitable with Vega then 1080ti with lower power consumption. And still are good.
yeah i've wanted to pickup some vegas but theyre all stupid priced again, they were 400 just a week or so ago but I didn't have the funds ready yet
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November 17, 2017, 08:08:45 AM
#33
Amazing Guide and video !
Thank You !

youre welcome I'm glad it could help Cheesy
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November 14, 2017, 03:08:54 PM
#32
Interesting that you'll need only 6xVega56 (950watt) to have the same earnings as your monster 12x1080ti zec rig ))


Show your calc's. There is no way.


OP, it is recommended to power the risers with the SAME psu used to power said gpu.

@rednoW What calc leads you to believe that?
Sorry for late answer. Cryptonight-based coins was twice profitable with Vega then 1080ti with lower power consumption. And still are good.
True, issues with ti`s memory type, same as with eth algos. But there are tons of other algos working wonders on ti.
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November 14, 2017, 02:33:27 PM
#31
Thats pretty awesome. I realized to build a professional business it boils down to only the three essential factors:

* hardware price (Mh/s per $)
* hardware efficiency (Mh/s per kw/h)
* electricity price ($ per kw/h)

Those things are good but being a good trader and having money  capital and good money management is better. Don't expand too fast where your taking on debt. Hodl till the profits are juicy. that's where the real money is at.

Good electric rates will do you no good if your always selling them right away at a low. Gota let it grow with time
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November 14, 2017, 02:26:08 PM
#30
Hey Vosk, I got a question for you. I am running a somewhat similar rig such as yours, only it is the Zotac 1082 TI's. One question, Have you ever experienced the cards turning off mid mining due to the fans shutting off because of heat?
 
What should I do regarding it? Should I arrange them in a way that increases airflow?
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November 14, 2017, 02:21:16 PM
#29
Amazing rig... 12x 1080Ti is sick. Would cost me over £9000 to build that rig in the UK lol... I wish i had a bigger credit card lol Ill just struggle to get my 6x 1060 6GB rig up Tongue
legendary
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November 14, 2017, 01:41:17 PM
#28
Interesting that you'll need only 6xVega56 (950watt) to have the same earnings as your monster 12x1080ti zec rig ))


Show your calc's. There is no way.


OP, it is recommended to power the risers with the SAME psu used to power said gpu.

@rednoW What calc leads you to believe that?
Sorry for late answer. Cryptonight-based coins was twice profitable with Vega then 1080ti with lower power consumption. And still are good.
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November 14, 2017, 12:50:37 PM
#27
Amazing Guide and video !
Thank You !
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November 14, 2017, 12:35:44 PM
#26
Ahhh.... I saw the video now and make sense now about the power/wiring/synching issues.

Glad you got this going Vosk - congrats!

Those Deltas are very good - all my 12/13/19 GPU rigs are using them with PICO kits.
yeah xD

haha thanks my friend Cheesy

Yeah I'm really impressed with the 2400w, a ton of power for such a small footprint

on your 12 13 19 gpu rigs, what cards do they consist of and do you use the pico kit from PM?


The big rigs are all ETH rigs (RX470s) but now I have stopped ETH mining.

All of them are selling hash at NH/Cryptonite since 2 months ago.

They will switch to BTG mining together with my NVIDIA farm.

BTG official network is expected to start on Nov 12 2017, 7 PM UTC.

Testing those riserless boards with NVIDIA and Deltas soon - see Phil's thread.

PICO kits I get some from PM, Aliexpress seller and Captminer.
How is BTG mining? I am looking into it today and going to move a couple rigs over, is it all the rage?! xD

EPIC fail this BTG mining - I would stay away until pools stabilizes - currently very slow confirmation times - I suspect not enough hash to process transactions smoothly.
that's disappointing . . BTG fail after fail lol, hope they get their stuff straight so we can have another big GPU coin to mine
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