[1423GH] ABCPool PPS - Proxy Pool For High & Steady Mining Rewards - page 33.

Eveofwar

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Quote from: dirtycat on January 26, 2012, 02:02:31 AM

Quote from: Eveofwar on January 25, 2012, 07:28:37 PM

Quote from: jamesg on January 25, 2012, 06:11:29 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Anyway they do not mine blocks or have rounds so they can't post this...

related, ABC pervz, would the control of gigaminer please contact me. If you don't I will just post the data here...

Are you accusing abcpool.co of using others hashing power to pool hop? Do you have evidence of this?

Remember a while back in this thread ?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.684977
&
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.688695

Well...confirmed.

I was wondering when someone was going to bring this back up.

I was just waiting for the right time, I had you in my back pocket. No worries kitty

dirtycat

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Quote from: Eveofwar on January 25, 2012, 07:28:37 PM

Quote from: jamesg on January 25, 2012, 06:11:29 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Anyway they do not mine blocks or have rounds so they can't post this...

related, ABC pervz, would the control of gigaminer please contact me. If you don't I will just post the data here...

Are you accusing abcpool.co of using others hashing power to pool hop? Do you have evidence of this?

Remember a while back in this thread ?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.684977
&
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.688695

Well...confirmed.

I was wondering when someone was going to bring this back up.

Eveofwar

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Quote from: kano on January 26, 2012, 12:30:44 AM

Quote from: MintCondition on January 26, 2012, 12:22:35 AM

Quote from: abracadabra on January 25, 2012, 07:57:25 PM

The fact that the operators of this pool have not responded to those comments is cause for concern, at least for me. Looking forward to getting some resolution soon. You can say that I am being paid for my hashes at the agreed upon rate, but I assumed (and shame on me I guess for assuming) that my hashes were used to find a block for this pool, not forwarded for use to other pools.

...
For now rest assured that your shares will always be rewarded as agreed, just as they have been in the past.
...

Heh that is funny - completely avoiding the issue with that part of your statement

Go through the last 2-3 pages, it's been ongoing.

Question dodging galore.

kano

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Quote from: MintCondition on January 26, 2012, 12:22:35 AM

Quote from: abracadabra on January 25, 2012, 07:57:25 PM

The fact that the operators of this pool have not responded to those comments is cause for concern, at least for me. Looking forward to getting some resolution soon. You can say that I am being paid for my hashes at the agreed upon rate, but I assumed (and shame on me I guess for assuming) that my hashes were used to find a block for this pool, not forwarded for use to other pools.

...
For now rest assured that your shares will always be rewarded as agreed, just as they have been in the past.
...

Heh that is funny - completely avoiding the issue with that part of your statement

MintCondition

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Quote from: abracadabra on January 25, 2012, 07:57:25 PM

The fact that the operators of this pool have not responded to those comments is cause for concern, at least for me. Looking forward to getting some resolution soon. You can say that I am being paid for my hashes at the agreed upon rate, but I assumed (and shame on me I guess for assuming) that my hashes were used to find a block for this pool, not forwarded for use to other pools.

We have read your comments and will respond later today. For now rest assured that your shares will always be rewarded as agreed, just as they have been in the past.

There's some other news: one of the stats tables became corrupted. We've since restored it from yesterday's backup. on your stats page you will not see any shares reported between 18:51 (yesterday) and 02:57 (today) UTC.

The issue has only affected the statistics as displayed: All shares from that period have been credited to your balance at the normal PPS rate.

pirateat40

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"Yes I am a pirate, 200 years too late."

I agree that it does seem shady for a pool to send it's power off somewhere else without telling it's miners. If gigavps can verify the information I would be interested in seeing it.

As Goat stated, GPUMAX had nothing to do with this deal and wouldn't condone such an operation.

fred0

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Quote from: kano on January 25, 2012, 11:17:46 PM

In that case, the issue THEN would be that ABC pool can have it's hashing directed anywhere out of their control ...

That would certainly make me consider looking for another PPS pool ...

But wouldn't any pool signed up with GPUMAX be subject to that same redirection?

hmmm...

kano

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In that case, the issue THEN would be that ABC pool can have it's hashing directed anywhere out of their control ...

That would certainly make me consider looking for another PPS pool ...

fred0

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Quote from: kano on January 25, 2012, 10:43:59 PM

Quote from: despoiler on January 25, 2012, 10:41:23 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Also if you ever want to see some massive fireworks redirect ABCs hashing power back to ABC, its fucking lulz! Infinite loop:)

I take it that is part of your proof? You were the "DDOS" from a few days ago?

Well if he did cause it but didn't know that it was ABC pool that supplied the hashing power - the only possible blame would be ABC itself for that one ...

So someone paid GPUMAX.com to mine at "Goat Pool", thus directing ABC hash power to "Goat Pool."

Is that a realistic scenario?

If that is the case, can ABC be solely responsible?

despoiler

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Quote from: kano on January 25, 2012, 10:43:59 PM

Quote from: despoiler on January 25, 2012, 10:41:23 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Also if you ever want to see some massive fireworks redirect ABCs hashing power back to ABC, its fucking lulz! Infinite loop:)

I take it that is part of your proof? You were the "DDOS" from a few days ago?

Well if he did cause it but didn't know that it was ABC pool that supplied the hashing power - the only possible blame would be ABC itself for that one ...

I agree. I don't care if he did do it or not. That is what backups are for.

kano

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Quote from: despoiler on January 25, 2012, 10:41:23 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Also if you ever want to see some massive fireworks redirect ABCs hashing power back to ABC, its fucking lulz! Infinite loop:)

I take it that is part of your proof? You were the "DDOS" from a few days ago?

Well if he did cause it but didn't know that it was ABC pool that supplied the hashing power - the only possible blame would be ABC itself for that one ...

despoiler

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Also if you ever want to see some massive fireworks redirect ABCs hashing power back to ABC, its fucking lulz! Infinite loop:)

I take it that is part of your proof? You were the "DDOS" from a few days ago?

fred0

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Quote from: Eveofwar on January 25, 2012, 09:05:58 PM

I was taking my implications from:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.684977
&
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.688695

Well, just because the pool ops don't post solved blocks doesn't mean they are hopping other pools.

Just because Eligius pool users hashes were redirected, doesn't mean all pool ops would so the same.

Remember when they had the bitcoin pilfering attack on the pool, MintCondition and Chlorine were up front about that.

It just seems a little far-fetched to me, not impossible, just improbable.

Eveofwar

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Quote from: fred0 on January 25, 2012, 09:02:13 PM

Quote from: Eveofwar on January 25, 2012, 08:59:53 PM

Quote from: fred0 on January 25, 2012, 08:59:10 PM

A PPS pool hopping another PPS pool doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Unless the hop is part of some kind of DOS attack, sounds fishy all around.

What if the PPS pool hopped to proportional pools ?

All you see is a PPS rate.

Well, the hop was implied by Goat, who is running a PPS pool.

I was taking my implications from:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.684977
&
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.688695

fred0

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Quote from: Eveofwar on January 25, 2012, 08:59:53 PM

Quote from: fred0 on January 25, 2012, 08:59:10 PM

A PPS pool hopping another PPS pool doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Unless the hop is part of some kind of DOS attack, sounds fishy all around.

What if the PPS pool hopped to proportional pools ?

All you see is a PPS rate.

Well, the hop was implied by Goat, who is running a PPS pool.

Eveofwar

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Quote from: fred0 on January 25, 2012, 08:59:10 PM

A PPS pool hopping another PPS pool doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Unless the hop is part of some kind of DOS attack, sounds fishy all around.

What if the PPS pool hopped to proportional pools ?

All you see is a PPS rate.

fred0

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A PPS pool hopping another PPS pool doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Unless the hop is part of some kind of DOS attack, sounds fishy all around.

despoiler

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To be fair they could just be trying to deal with their pool issues. It's still not working correctly. Conversely whoever has the evidence should just post it. It will either stand or it won't. I haven't seen anything from anyone so this is nothing more than bitgossip atm.

JWU42

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I am certainly an "innocent until proven guilty" guy but agree this is worrying...

jamesg

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AKA: gigavps

I too have a very uneasy feeling about them not answering. I will not be hashing on this pool anymore.

I would seriously recommend that unless MintCondition and Chlorine can give concrete proof that they are consistently finding blocks with their own bitcoind, then all miners should leave the pool immediately.

It making me sick to think that these guys have abused the trust of their miners to pool hop.

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