[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 101.

wariner

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it is statistic.

to equal luck with 15 days between "chinese pool" and p2pool you would receive:

chinese pool: 15 payments from 0.1 = total 1.5btc
p2pool: 1 payment from 1.5 = total 1.5btc

Obviously that is indicative, but there may be very lucky moments and gain a lot or very unlucky..

Finally, there are alternatives pool very well managed to use instead of "chinese pool", for example slush, ckpool, kano.is...ecc.. if you really do not want to help bitcoin with p2pool at least not throw hash on pool who hold too much power (this for the safety of bitcoin) Wink

dog1965

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Quote from: wariner on February 08, 2016, 09:18:35 AM

unlucky last period.... 8 days they are very few for a test

yes but that is 8 days I lost $80 bucks only to make back $60.00 A $20.00 profit and with this difficulty going way up I don't think sharechain will hit a block with 1.42 PH/s I gussing it will take 2 weeks if your lucky to hit one !

I was only mining on my own pool with my miners which only gave me $60.00 now I have to wait two weeks or better to make $60.00 = noway !

nicehash I make $10.00 per day times that by 14 days that's $140.00 USD you tell me whats belter ?

just curious though do I need other people mining on me pool to increase that $60.00 amount or does it grow if I leave it run for a long time with my miners ? I know its a noob question but I am new at it.

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unlucky last period.... 8 days they are very few for a test

dog1965

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p2pool not worth it better off using Chinese pools. I set up a node and only made $60.00 usd using my own miners in 8 days I make $80 usd on nicehash and don't have to dedicate my pc which runs at 4.87 GHZ. so you tell me which is better ?

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Quote from: windpath on February 03, 2016, 12:38:48 PM

As far as the service goes, we're not going anywhere, bitcoind crashed, needed to be restarted, that was all.

To remedy this problem on my nodes use "monit", you can easily set up with (It is an example):

Code:

check process bitcoind
matching "bitcoind"
start program "/usr/bin/bitcoind -datadir=/root/.bitcoin -daemon"
stop program "/root/killbit.sh"
if failed port 8332 for 5 cycles then restart

killbit.sh

Code:

#!/bin/sh
sudo sh -c "killall -9 bitcoind"

I hope can help Wink

-ck

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Quote from: nicklello on February 04, 2016, 06:51:05 AM

Quote from: -ck on February 03, 2016, 05:54:49 PM

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CK, slightly off-topic; but is your recently added 'Node' mode in CKPool partway to a new implementation of the P2Pool sharechain ?

Exactly the opposite. It makes a centralised pool work across many different locations. Sorry, I don't do any p2pool development.

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Quote from: -ck on February 03, 2016, 05:54:49 PM

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CK, slightly off-topic; but is your recently added 'Node' mode in CKPool partway to a new implementation of the P2Pool sharechain ?

organofcorti

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Quote from: -ck on February 03, 2016, 05:54:49 PM

Quote from: organofcorti on February 03, 2016, 05:47:14 PM

Quote from: -ck on February 03, 2016, 05:30:04 PM

Quote from: Meuh6879 on February 03, 2016, 03:28:08 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on February 01, 2016, 03:52:28 PM

Yes, it just sucks if it takes you a long time to submit an accepted share and then your work falls off the chain and you never receive anything.

do the maths :

receive nothing ... and big on P2Pool.
receive a little every days ... on others pools.

result = same reward after 3 months.

many mining owners ... don't wait and want money now.

When diff is rising... this is wrong. If you have a bad luck period on a small pool and diff is rising, you will never make it back. On the other hand the opposite is also true, if you have a good luck period when diff is rising, you will be ahead forever. And no, it does NOT work out in the end as luck is never guaranteed to average you out with changing diff.

The part is italicked is true except the "forever" part - if difficulty drops *after* it rises (or vice versa) you could end up closer to expected.

True enough, though diff drops have a history of happening only extremely rarely and never to fully drop to pre-rise levels... Next one due will be after the next halving, and it has so far still on average kept going up. So unless the value of btc crashes, I can only see the overall trend being upwards.

Quite so. Recovery of income during a long period of continuous increase in difficulty is extremely unlikely.

Sometimes though if difficulty has essentially plateaued it will still pop up and down by up to 4% percent ( due to variance ) and so any loss in one cycle could be recovered in the next.

I know you didn't mean this, but I'm persnickety enough to not be able to stop myself from correcting it

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Quote from: organofcorti on February 03, 2016, 05:47:14 PM

Quote from: -ck on February 03, 2016, 05:30:04 PM

Quote from: Meuh6879 on February 03, 2016, 03:28:08 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on February 01, 2016, 03:52:28 PM

Yes, it just sucks if it takes you a long time to submit an accepted share and then your work falls off the chain and you never receive anything.

do the maths :

receive nothing ... and big on P2Pool.
receive a little every days ... on others pools.

result = same reward after 3 months.

many mining owners ... don't wait and want money now.

When diff is rising... this is wrong. If you have a bad luck period on a small pool and diff is rising, you will never make it back. On the other hand the opposite is also true, if you have a good luck period when diff is rising, you will be ahead forever. And no, it does NOT work out in the end as luck is never guaranteed to average you out with changing diff.

The part is italicked is true except the "forever" part - if difficulty drops *after* it rises (or vice versa) you could end up closer to expected.

True enough, though diff drops have a history of happening only extremely rarely and never to fully drop to pre-rise levels... Next one due will be after the next halving, and it has so far still on average kept going up. So unless the value of btc crashes, I can only see the overall trend being upwards.

organofcorti

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Quote from: -ck on February 03, 2016, 05:30:04 PM

Quote from: Meuh6879 on February 03, 2016, 03:28:08 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on February 01, 2016, 03:52:28 PM

Yes, it just sucks if it takes you a long time to submit an accepted share and then your work falls off the chain and you never receive anything.

do the maths :

receive nothing ... and big on P2Pool.
receive a little every days ... on others pools.

result = same reward after 3 months.

many mining owners ... don't wait and want money now.

When diff is rising... this is wrong. If you have a bad luck period on a small pool and diff is rising, you will never make it back. On the other hand the opposite is also true, if you have a good luck period when diff is rising, you will be ahead forever. And no, it does NOT work out in the end as luck is never guaranteed to average you out with changing diff.

The part is italicked is true except the "forever" part - if difficulty drops *after* it rises (or vice versa) you could end up closer to expected.

-ck

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Quote from: Meuh6879 on February 03, 2016, 03:28:08 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on February 01, 2016, 03:52:28 PM

Yes, it just sucks if it takes you a long time to submit an accepted share and then your work falls off the chain and you never receive anything.

do the maths :

receive nothing ... and big on P2Pool.
receive a little every days ... on others pools.

result = same reward after 3 months.

many mining owners ... don't wait and want money now.

When diff is rising... this is wrong. If you have a bad luck period on a small pool and diff is rising, you will never make it back. On the other hand the opposite is also true, if you have a good luck period when diff is rising, you will be ahead forever. And no, it does NOT work out in the end as luck is never guaranteed to average you out with changing diff.

windpath

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Quote from: Meuh6879 on February 03, 2016, 03:28:08 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on February 01, 2016, 03:52:28 PM

Yes, it just sucks if it takes you a long time to submit an accepted share and then your work falls off the chain and you never receive anything.

do the maths :

receive nothing ... and big on P2Pool.
receive a little every days ... on others pools.

result = same reward after 3 months.

many mining owners ... don't wait and want money now.

Over a great enough period of time this is true, but your right people are impatient. P2Pool takes some patience.

One thing I'll point out is that it has been shown that it does not = the same reward after 3 months.

There are 3 reasons for this:

P2Pool creates it's own P2P network which facilitates excellent block relay when we find one, this is why we have fewer orphans then any other pool
They have become much less frequent, but some folks still do donate to P2Pool miners occasionally, adding to the bottom line (HunterBunter's web-based donation page unfortunatly went offline, I'll be adding one to CoinCadence in the near future)
P2Pool is highly DoS-resistant as long as you configure backup nodes. In situations where other pools are attacked and go offline P2Pool mines on

semaster ran a benchmark test between P2Pool, Eligius, and BTC Guild, it seems to have ended in November 2014, but the results are still there:

Total from 1 Feb 2014: p2pool - BTC16.9718 VS btcguild (PPLNS) - BTC16.0933 VS Eligius BTC15.8041

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/benchmark-p2pool-vs-btcguild-vs-eligius-416933

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Quote from: Meuh6879 on February 03, 2016, 03:28:08 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on February 01, 2016, 03:52:28 PM

Yes, it just sucks if it takes you a long time to submit an accepted share and then your work falls off the chain and you never receive anything.

do the maths :

receive nothing ... and big on P2Pool.
receive a little every days ... on others pools.

result = same reward after 3 months.

That isn't true for smaller miners who lose their only submitted work on the chain in a rising difficulty environment. I have no desire to make the argument any further though.

Meuh6879

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Quote from: kano on January 29, 2016, 06:22:54 PM

Of course there's the other problem that happened recently when someone easily 51% p2pool ... and no one seemed to care or even notice Tongue

When P2Pool reach the 6PH/s on a short period, it solve 2 blocks per day.
P2Pool is not a proprietary pool ... the software can not be constrain to create a new blockchain.

Because ... like the node of Bitcoin Core, Software of P2Pool not "mutate" by a magic automated and hidded update (like apple device Roll Eyes

).

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 01, 2016, 03:52:28 PM

Yes, it just sucks if it takes you a long time to submit an accepted share and then your work falls off the chain and you never receive anything.

do the maths :

receive nothing ... and big on P2Pool.
receive a little every days ... on others pools.

result = same reward after 3 months.

many mining owners ... don't wait and want money now.

windpath

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Quote from: dog1965 on February 03, 2016, 03:40:31 AM

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also second question what do I put into the antminer S7 and S5 as far as username/?+? you know the difficulty stuff here is my config line for the s7

Huh

???NaahqHpLiZt9GPXUkFoPkQmz4dMH.ant1/2055000 was using the + to but took it out.

Short complete P2Pool difficulty guide:

There are 2 allowed switches that you can include after your address/username in P2Pool.

They are defined in work.py starting on line 167.

The "+" = desired_pseudoshare_target

Pseudoshare Target instructs the pool node to provide your miners with work at a FALSELY low difficulty, a difficulty lower then the actual share difficulty. This is beneficial because it allows the graphs on the front end to smooth out instead of just showing spikes, and allows the node to more accurately guess your true hash rate.

The "/" = desired_share_target

Share Target actually sets the real share difficulty for your miners. Any share target below the current P2Pool minimum target is ignored and the minimum P2Pool target difficulty is used, currently 2,180,000

These are the only 2 allowed switches, adding anything else may break your payout address.

Example:

YOUR_BTC_ADDRESS/SHARE_TARGET+PSEUDOSHARE_TARGET

Note: NastyPool had added custom switches to facilitate their PoP payout method, this is specific to their node only.

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Quote from: M8BWNNRFMNdak68c on February 03, 2016, 11:26:46 AM

Quote from: windpath on January 13, 2016, 09:33:09 AM

Important update for users of http://minefast.coincadence.com

Whether you use it as a backup node or primarily mine on minefast.coincadence.com please update your miners today!

We have an exciting announcement coming in the next few days, all I can say at this point is that the domain name will change.

To keep mining uninterrupted please update your miners to use the IP address of the server rather then the domain, the IP will remain the same during the switch and you will not have any downtime.

Set your miners pool URL to:

stratum+tcp://54.235.94.19:9332

Everything else remains unchanged.

so what what about the exiting news you spoke 14 days ago?

at the moment ( through the last day ) i only see a broken website ( no more live date, no miner tables ) and a offline pool ( yes, 54.235.94.19:9332 and not the old url )

is this just another important service leaving the sinking P2Pool-Ship? Sad

The news is still coming, there is a delay, but it will come

Worked out better then initially planned because people have had plenty of time to update their URLs...

As far as the service goes, we're not going anywhere, bitcoind crashed, needed to be restarted, that was all.

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Quote from: windpath on January 13, 2016, 09:33:09 AM

Important update for users of http://minefast.coincadence.com

Whether you use it as a backup node or primarily mine on minefast.coincadence.com please update your miners today!

We have an exciting announcement coming in the next few days, all I can say at this point is that the domain name will change.

To keep mining uninterrupted please update your miners to use the IP address of the server rather then the domain, the IP will remain the same during the switch and you will not have any downtime.

Set your miners pool URL to:

stratum+tcp://54.235.94.19:9332

Everything else remains unchanged.

so what what about the exiting news you spoke 14 days ago?

at the moment ( through the last day ) i only see a broken website ( no more live date, no miner tables ) and a offline pool ( yes, 54.235.94.19:9332 and not the old url )

is this just another important service leaving the sinking P2Pool-Ship? Sad

dog1965

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what the hell is this error cant figure out for the life of me what the hell this is or how to fix it ? Cry

Error while processing Event callbacks:
2016-02-01 10:45:02.816000 > Traceback (most recent call last):
2016-02-01 10:45:02.816000 > File "p2pool\node.pyc", line 135, in download_shares
2016-02-01 10:45:02.816000 >
2016-02-01 10:45:02.816000 > File "p2pool\node.pyc", line 48, in handle_shares
2016-02-01 10:45:02.816000 >
2016-02-01 10:45:02.816000 > File "p2pool\node.pyc", line 297, in set_best_share
2016-02-01 10:45:02.816000 >
2016-02-01 10:45:02.816000 > File "p2pool\util\variable.pyc", line 74, in set
2016-02-01 10:45:02.816000 >

also second question what do I put into the antminer S7 and S5 as far as username/?+? you know the difficulty stuff here is my config line for the s7

Huh

???NaahqHpLiZt9GPXUkFoPkQmz4dMH.ant1/2055000 was using the + to but took it out.

windpath

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Welcome to P2Pool!

To see your miners open up http://P2POOL_HOST:PORT/static typically http://127.0.0.1:9332/static then click on the "graphs" link, each payout address with an active miner will have its own graph.

The payout address does not need to be the same as the address set when starting P2Pool. It will be whatever the miners user name is set to, if the username is a valid address. If the miners user name is not a valid address it will mine to the node default address (this can allow a node owner to name workers and track them individually in the graphs).

I'd strongly suggest not mining to an online wallet, most will not handle coinbase transactions properly.

The error you were seeing is thrown here:

https://github.com/p2pool/p2pool/blob/5090bf5ccd615735b92e55710394ba92d2efcc54/p2pool/p2p.py#L311

Looks like it was caused by a misbehaving peer (to old) that was subsequently banned.

Hope this helps!

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