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Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 99. (Read 2591920 times)

legendary
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Nice to wake up to a long overdue BLOCK!



+1

A lot of rented hash power just pointed at P2Pool to support Classic
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Nice to wake up to a long overdue BLOCK!  Smiley

Hopefully there will be a few more before the halving, when I'll be switching off my miners  Sad

Interesting factoid: The last p2pool block was the first one found by a Bitcoinclassic node.......
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
"Expected" by OgNasty, was no doubt calculated based on accepted shares, which is how every pool calculates it, and makes p2pool look better than it really is since accepted is so low on p2pool due to rejected being 10 times a normal pool.

NastyPoP "expected" is calculated based on 100% perfect mathematical mining environment. Just as any correct miner calculator. It has nothing to do with P2Pool. If you took a minute to do that calculation you would see that it matches the NastyPoP "expected" values.

I do not sugar coat any NastyPoP (or P2Pool) numbers.
Read what I said again.
Yes you do.

... or did you just ignore reading my post explaining it?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13846873
hero member
Activity: 633
Merit: 591
"Expected" by OgNasty, was no doubt calculated based on accepted shares, which is how every pool calculates it, and makes p2pool look better than it really is since accepted is so low on p2pool due to rejected being 10 times a normal pool.

NastyPoP "expected" is calculated based on 100% perfect mathematical mining environment. Just as any correct miner calculator. It has nothing to do with P2Pool. If you took a minute to do that calculation you would see that it matches the NastyPoP "expected" values.

I do not sugar coat any NastyPoP (or P2Pool) numbers.
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 2258
I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
Running a full node takes practice these days. One receives some amount of "resistance" taken for granted.
Indeed. Totally rebuilt p2pool from scratch, It might be running, my stale rate is 50% after a few hours. Will give it a day.
legendary
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Running a full node takes practice these days. One receives some amount of "resistance" taken for granted.
legendary
Activity: 1258
Merit: 1027
Sweet. Compiled up and firing up p2pool to see if it's stable. The older clients resulted in lots of downtime and very slow getblocktemplates (30 seconds, etc).

Edit: Drat, still getting "Warning: LOST CONTACT WITH BITCOIND for 2.6 minutes! Check that it isn't frozen or dead!" messages even with bitcoin-cli getinfo being fine and only 16 network connections.




12 has proven to be much more efficient than previous versions, perhaps it's catching up?
legendary
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use XT with mempool limiter instead ... or rise relay fees on normal Core release.
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 2258
I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
Sweet. Compiled up and firing up p2pool to see if it's stable. The older clients resulted in lots of downtime and very slow getblocktemplates (30 seconds, etc).

Edit: Drat, still getting "Warning: LOST CONTACT WITH BITCOIND for 2.6 minutes! Check that it isn't frozen or dead!" messages even with bitcoin-cli getinfo being fine and only 16 network connections.


sr. member
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Where can I download the source for the latest version of Bitcoind that might work? 0.11.2 is useless.

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
legendary
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
Where can I download the source for the latest version of Bitcoind that might work? 0.11.2 is useless.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Maybe toomin was loading up classic on his nodes...........
hero member
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Hmmm.. haven't seen hashrate this low on P2Pool in a long time. Lost Faith exodus or some drunken guys tripped over the power cord during the Chinese New Year celebrations?


UPDATE:
Ahh it must have been drunk guys then... It's climbed back up to the general below 1PH level again (dipped into the 300TH level for awhile there).

Anyone feel like experimenting with 3PH or so again?  Please? *crickets*
sr. member
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What about the performance cost? The server is using resources for an alt coin, slowing down the server = less BTC.

My node efficiency very rarely goes below 105% - although looking at it now it is at 102.8%. It pretty much stays like that weather I merge mine or only mine BTC.
sr. member
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I don't much care for altcoins either, & am in complete agreement with you about them. However, if I am able to merge mine them at no extra cost to myself, then cash them in at exchanges for BTC when I feel the price is right, then why wouldn't I? After all, that is what merge mining is for & what attracted me to p2pool in the first place, amongst other things. Alt(shit)coins are simply a means to provide a little extra income - the fact that I merge mine them with p2pool does not mean that I like/trust/care about them. Without merge mining them I probably wouldn't be able to afford to run my node, so they serve a purpose to me, nothing else. It's a pain having to keep checking the prices on all the different exchanges, but if I get it right, it's nice to get those little extra satoshi - it just helps.
What about the performance cost? The server is using resources for an alt coin, slowing down the server = less BTC. I think Kano can explain it much better.
sr. member
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1) What % of the BTC earning is that?

I have no idea, I never bothered working it out.

2) What % would it be today now that altcoins are all pretty much worth nothing as people slowly realise the scam - free coins, that people only get to sell them, should be worth nothing.

I have no idea about that either, for the same reason.

I don't much care for altcoins either, & am in complete agreement with you about them. However, if I am able to merge mine them at no extra cost to myself, then cash them in at exchanges for BTC when I feel the price is right, then why wouldn't I? After all, that is what merge mining is for & what attracted me to p2pool in the first place, amongst other things. Alt(shit)coins are simply a means to provide a little extra income - the fact that I merge mine them with p2pool does not mean that I like/trust/care about them. Without merge mining them I probably wouldn't be able to afford to run my node, so they serve a purpose to me, nothing else. It's a pain having to keep checking the prices on all the different exchanges, but if I get it right, it's nice to get those little extra satoshi - it just helps.
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4

Well, so far this year I have earned an extra BTC1.4194942 by cashing in some of my altcoins that I merge mined with p2pool. It's a matter of perception kano, it might be almost zero to you, but for the hobby miner like myself it goes a long way towards paying the electricity bill, as well as providing income during the lean "luckless" periods  Wink
Quoting a number out of context means nothing.

2 points:
1) What % of the BTC earning is that?
Also note that when you say "This Year" you obviously mean 43 days right?
Since this year is only 43 days old.

2) What % would it be today now that altcoins are all pretty much worth nothing as people slowly realise the scam - free coins, that people only get to sell them, should be worth nothing.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250

Well, so far this year I have earned an extra BTC1.4194942 by cashing in some of my altcoins that I merge mined with p2pool. It's a matter of perception kano, it might be almost zero to you, but for the hobby miner like myself it goes a long way towards paying the electricity bill, as well as providing income during the lean "luckless" periods  Wink
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I ran a year-long test comparing NastyPoP to standard p2pool payouts.  I had 2 identical S3s mining - one configured to get standard p2pool payouts, the other configured for NastyPoP.  At the end of the year, the data shows that the S3 getting standard p2pool payments made 96.99% of expectations.  The S3 on NastyPoP made 91.04%.

I calculated expected earnings by figuring out how much 440GH/s should have made using the following formula:
Code:
reward / (2^256 / (((2^224 - 2^208) / difficulty) * hash rate))
All data is available in an Excel spreadsheet for examination here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vv7r7ejq2pquynl/pop_vs_p2p.xlsx?dl=0
That's my point.
"Expected" by OgNasty, was no doubt calculated based on accepted shares, which is how every pool calculates it, and makes p2pool look better than it really is since accepted is so low on p2pool due to rejected being 10 times a normal pool.

That's one of the 2 "lies" in p2pool statistics.
The other is luck.

Let's not forget the potential to merge mine 14 other coins on top of Bitcoin with p2pool (I'm currently only mining 11 though), with more on their way. It all adds up to almost zero
FTFY
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