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Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 119. (Read 2591920 times)

legendary
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Again proof of concept, no way a single 21 comp would be able to keep a share in the P2Pool chain.

Ok, for the glory, i understand this
sr. member
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Hey, I have a problem
I am not able to connect to this pool, can someone help me.

What node & settings are you using?
newbie
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Hey, I have a problem
I am not able to connect to this pool, can someone help me.
legendary
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Badass!  Shocked

wait, ask the price before ...  Grin for a 90GH/s performance.
you may be a little surprise of the power vs. price ratio.  Lips sealed

FWIW the 21 chip was not mining to the node, just wanted to see load with P2Pool and 21 mine running... Again proof of concept, no way a single 21 comp would be able to keep a share in the P2Pool chain.
legendary
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Badass!  Shocked

wait, ask the price before ...  Grin for a 90GH/s performance.
you may be a little surprise of the power vs. price ratio.  Lips sealed
newbie
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Or you can run Core if you want to, p2pool just tags the block with bip101 regardless

You mean just your fork there, right?


My fork can run both with core and XT but it will publish bip101 blocks if you find one
newbie
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It's alive! (barely) The 21 Bitcoin Computer running P2Pool (proof of concept)

https://twitter.com/CoinCadence/status/674982369884008448
Badass!  Shocked
legendary
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It's alive! (barely) The 21 Bitcoin Computer running P2Pool (proof of concept)

https://twitter.com/CoinCadence/status/674982369884008448

legendary
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Or you can run Core if you want to, p2pool just tags the block with bip101 regardless

You mean just your fork there, right?
newbie
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Please forgive me if I missed it but do we have the option of a BIP101 bitcoind with the new p2pool yet?

You can download my fork of p2pool here https://github.com/Hannott/p2pool

I don't know where you can download the latest 0.11D of bitcoinXT right now, but it works with that.
Or you can run Core if you want to, p2pool just tags the block with bip101 regardless
legendary
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Please forgive me if I missed it but do we have the option of a BIP101 bitcoind with the new p2pool yet?
sr. member
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As many miners switch off their older (but p2pool compatible) miners due to inefficiency & electrical costs, I can't help but wonder what the future holds for p2pool unless a manufacturer steps up with something to rival bitmain or a dev steps in who can fix the broken bitmain firmware for use with p2pool. I can't hold my breath long enough for that to happen, & the more I think about it, the more I dislike bitmain - both their broken firmware & their empty block producing crappy SPV pool with zero support...... Angry

Spondoolies - rescue us please?   Wink
Spondoolies have left the building. Their next generation is for farms only unless they come up with another product (which might happen).

The Avalon A6s will work well with p2pool but as per the last generation they're pricier than the bitmain product.

Yeah, I said that more out of jest/desperation than seriousness...... Cheesy

Like you say, the A6's are just not worth it, unless the BTC rate starts to skyrocket......soooooon  Wink
newbie
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I have created a pull request that will ensure that the running bitcoind is supporting the correct softforks. The latest 0.11D build of bitcoinXT does support bip65, and works with this fix.

https://github.com/p2pool/p2pool/pull/287
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
As many miners switch off their older (but p2pool compatible) miners due to inefficiency & electrical costs, I can't help but wonder what the future holds for p2pool unless a manufacturer steps up with something to rival bitmain or a dev steps in who can fix the broken bitmain firmware for use with p2pool. I can't hold my breath long enough for that to happen, & the more I think about it, the more I dislike bitmain - both their broken firmware & their empty block producing crappy SPV pool with zero support...... Angry

Spondoolies - rescue us please?   Wink
Spondoolies have left the building. Their next generation is for farms only unless they come up with another product (which might happen).

The Avalon A6s will work well with p2pool but as per the last generation they're pricier than the bitmain product.
member
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We are in a precarious position. The only mining hardware currently available on the planet does not work properly/efficiently with p2pool - the only truly decentralized pool. I have a few S7's & am thinking about buying a couple more, but it pi**es me off that in order to use them effectively I am forced to point them at a centralized pool instead of my preferred choice - p2pool.

...

Spondoolies - rescue us please?   Wink

I am debating to not purchase more from Bitmain due to these issues with their miners and p2pool.  Every single antminer I have had to modify in order to get expected performance on p2pool, despite Bitmain claiming native support!  This should have been resolved a year ago.

Just to be clear, you've been able to get your Antminers to work properly by modifying the batch file, as the above posting?
newbie
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We are in a precarious position. The only mining hardware currently available on the planet does not work properly/efficiently with p2pool - the only truly decentralized pool. I have a few S7's & am thinking about buying a couple more, but it pi**es me off that in order to use them effectively I am forced to point them at a centralized pool instead of my preferred choice - p2pool.

...

Spondoolies - rescue us please?   Wink

I am debating to not purchase more from Bitmain due to these issues with their miners and p2pool.  Every single antminer I have had to modify in order to get expected performance on p2pool, despite Bitmain claiming native support!  This should have been resolved a year ago.
sr. member
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It would be nice if bitmain gave us the option to have control over that.  
Currently we have to run a modified firmware in order to actually submit stale shares?  Changing the flag in the cgminer config has no effect on submits of stale shares??

Reading back through this thread, this has been a problem with bitmain throughout their entire miner range. Many people have asked them repeatedly to fix their driver/cgminer fork problems, but have been completely ignored (the same can be said for their pool support). What makes it particularly annoying is the fact that they lied, and continue to lie about their support of p2pool in their threads - & even go as far as to say that they help decentralize the network!!

We are in a precarious position. The only mining hardware currently available on the planet does not work properly/efficiently with p2pool - the only truly decentralized pool. I have a few S7's & am thinking about buying a couple more, but it pi**es me off that in order to use them effectively I am forced to point them at a centralized pool instead of my preferred choice - p2pool.

As many miners switch off their older (but p2pool compatible) miners due to inefficiency & electrical costs, I can't help but wonder what the future holds for p2pool unless a manufacturer steps up with something to rival bitmain or a dev steps in who can fix the broken bitmain firmware for use with p2pool. I can't hold my breath long enough for that to happen, & the more I think about it, the more I dislike bitmain - both their broken firmware & their empty block producing crappy SPV pool with zero support...... Angry

Spondoolies - rescue us please?   Wink
newbie
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I've configured the stock cgminer in my S7 batch 6 with

Code:
"submit-stale" : true,
"queue" : "1",
"expiry" : "1",
"scan-time" : "1"
and looks like it's now submitting stale shares.

 
Quote
[2015-12-09 03:27:21] Pool 1 stale share detected, submitting as user requested
 [2015-12-09 03:27:21] Accepted 00000058 Diff 0/8192 BTM 0 pool 1
 [2015-12-09 03:27:22]  opt_bitmain_freq:600 tmp:600
 [2015-12-09 03:27:22] Pool 1 stale share detected, submitting as user requested
 [2015-12-09 03:27:22] Accepted 00000058 Diff 0/8192 BTM 0 pool 1
 [2015-12-09 03:27:23] Pool 1 stale share detected, submitting as user requested

Don't know if it's a bogus submission or if it's really happening but I'm on full speed p2pool
The cgminer default is always to submit stale shares. That entry in your config does nothing on current versions of cgminer. The problem with bitmain's driver is it deletes shares in the driver before even returning them to the main cgminer code in a way you can't configure in cgminer to avoid. These shares don't even show up as being deleted in any logs.

It would be nice if bitmain gave us the option to have control over that. 
Currently we have to run a modified firmware in order to actually submit stale shares?  Changing the flag in the cgminer config has no effect on submits of stale shares??
legendary
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member
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Thanks for clarifying ck! Btw I've tried to run the cgminer you compiled for the S5 in the S7. it ran but capped the clock speed on 200  Tongue
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