[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 217.

jonnybravo0311

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Quote from: Chupacabras on February 12, 2015, 08:42:22 AM

Quote from: PatMan on February 12, 2015, 08:39:23 AM

Greed, impatience & lust for profit can often temporarily blind people to reality, causing them to wander around from pool to pool in search of faster & greater profits, until eventually their vision has cleared & it becomes clear that not only are there no fast profits to be made in mining, but also that p2pool is the highest paying pool there is anyway.

See you soon Chupacabras Wink

Patman, I never said this is not the best pool. It is just dry cause of the users hoping habits. I will be back when i see stability. Thanks.

First, I really don't understand your reply to my earlier explanation of why your suggestions wouldn't work. Now you are getting more and more ridiculous with your claims... especially that crap about you having a petahash here. Do you honestly think that we either don't remember or are unable to use the forum itself to look back through your posts? You came around here in late January asking all kinds of questions on how to setup a node... how to setup a fee for your node... how to setup your miners to be effective on p2pool. You were all excited about having 5.5TH/s running on the pool. That's a VERY far cry from the claimed 1PH/s.

You've been around less than a month and have no concept of how the pool works. You then go ahead and claim instability in the pool due to pool hopping - which both kano and I have explained to you is not what's going on. We've suggested you actually learn how p2pool and PPLNS pools in general work. Your response is to come back and call us stupid and that you can't be bothered "waisting" your time answering.

So go ahead... take your fictional petahash and leave. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

PatMan

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Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....

There are many reasons for fluctuating hash rate - testing, failover etc - it's perfectly normal. I'd be more concerned if the hash rate stayed constant..... Wink

jcumins

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Quote from: Chupacabras on February 12, 2015, 08:42:22 AM

Quote from: PatMan on February 12, 2015, 08:39:23 AM

Greed, impatience & lust for profit can often temporarily blind people to reality, causing them to wander around from pool to pool in search of faster & greater profits, until eventually their vision has cleared & it becomes clear that not only are there no fast profits to be made in mining, but also that p2pool is the highest paying pool there is anyway.

See you soon Chupacabras Wink

Patman, I never said this is not the best pool. It is just dry cause of the users hoping habits. I will be back when i see stability. Thanks.

Looking at the Pool hash rate. How do we know this guy with the 1PH of hash has not been hopping. I do not see any stable 3PH of hash on the p2pool. Most people with that kind of power are experienced enough to have already found a place to mine that they like and they usually stay there.

As i read the post looks like a childish mixing of words.

I have been studying all the different pools and have found p2pool with my own node to be the most profitable, it just takes allot of patience when shares and blocks are not found.

Thats my 2 cents worth

Keep the boxes mining. It will get better....

Chupacabras

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Quote from: PatMan on February 12, 2015, 08:39:23 AM

Greed, impatience & lust for profit can often temporarily blind people to reality, causing them to wander around from pool to pool in search of faster & greater profits, until eventually their vision has cleared & it becomes clear that not only are there no fast profits to be made in mining, but also that p2pool is the highest paying pool there is anyway.

See you soon Chupacabras Wink

Patman, I never said this is not the best pool. It is just dry cause of the users hoping habits. I will be back when i see stability. Thanks.

PatMan

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Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....

Greed, impatience & lust for profit can often temporarily blind people to reality, causing them to wander around from pool to pool in search of faster & greater profits, until eventually their vision has cleared & it becomes clear that not only are there no fast profits to be made in mining, but also that p2pool is the highest paying pool there is anyway.

See you soon Chupacabras Wink

Prelude

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Yeah, I'm fairly certain someone with 1PH of hardware would be smart enough to properly reply when quoting someone. It sure is nice to dream, though.

BTW, you p2pool mining payout history is visible in your BTC begging signature. Roll Eyes

Chupacabras

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Quote from: Prelude on February 11, 2015, 11:51:37 PM

Quote from: Chupacabras on February 11, 2015, 10:30:51 PM

Quote from: kano on February 11, 2015, 09:34:13 PM

Quote from: Chupacabras on February 11, 2015, 06:26:02 AM

To the DEV.
This is not hop proof.

Set up that user who GHS drop for 30 min or more lose there shares and his shares will be distribute among the users who stay longest.
This will make it hop proof and people will stay or go for good.

I was in P2pool for 6 months and it was the pool that pay the most, but since the bitcoin drop to 200 dollars it just died. If you look at the history 3 block per day and some days up to 5 blocks. I guest those days a long gone.

Thanks.

It's PPLNS - learn about how PPLNS works - rather than making guesses based on small random samples that are not representative of the population and then coming up with some ludicrous idea about how to screw up a PPLNS pool.

But I guess, more importantly, learn a little about p2pool.
No node except your own node knows anything about your mining except when you find a share-chain share.
So your idea means that any p2pool node with less than something like 20THs will never get paid ... yay good idea there Tongue

I was going to take my time to answer you back, nut honestly I cant waist my time. You are just dumb to what is going on. The best of luck for you guys.

Yeah, everyone else is dumb. It's surely not you who is dumb. Roll Eyes

You make absolutely no sense.

Get the fuck out and stop wasting "your" time. Roll Eyes

I did get the fuck out and took my 1 Phs out of the pool. that why you at 1.8 or 2 the most. Good luck!!!

MissouriMiner

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Quote from: yslyung on February 11, 2015, 01:19:14 PM

Quote from: rav3n_pl on February 11, 2015, 03:29:04 AM

Try my skydrive, just uploaded latest win64 builds.

i'm getting lots of these:

File "twisted\internet\base.pyc", line 800, in runUntilCurrent

--- ---
File "p2pool\bitcoin\stratum.pyc", line 38, in _send_work

File "p2pool\bitcoin\worker_interface.pyc", line 129, in get_work

File "p2pool\work.pyc", line 243, in get_work

p2pool.util.jsonrpc.NarrowError: -12345 p2pool is downloading shares
Unhandled Error
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "p2pool\main.pyc", line 666, in run

File "twisted\internet\base.pyc", line 1169, in run

File "twisted\internet\base.pyc", line 1178, in mainLoop

File "twisted\internet\base.pyc", line 800, in runUntilCurrent

--- ---
File "p2pool\bitcoin\stratum.pyc", line 38, in _send_work

File "p2pool\bitcoin\worker_interface.pyc", line 129, in get_work

File "p2pool\work.pyc", line 243, in get_work

p2pool.util.jsonrpc.NarrowError: -12345 p2pool is downloading shares

This is because there is a java script call from within your index.html, or graphs.html, (or some other webpage filename) where the object being queried is not in your database/data-files. From the web browser, you should see a share, block, hashinfo, etc.., the data is missing. If the server version is compatible with the java call, then the fields will eventually fill in with new data, and the errors should recede. If there is an incompatibility, then the fields will never fill in and the errors will continue. Not a big deal. More of a eye sore when viewing logs, or live screen, than an issue. Unless the errors are rolling nonstop, then the issue needs some fixing.

jcumins

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Quote from: jcumins on February 11, 2015, 09:13:10 PM

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If you're running a public node I suggest checking your graphs. Some dickhole is spamming work requests without doing any actual mining. It causes massive DOA spikes.

How long ago did this start. I am the only one on my node and it seems to be doing fine.

Has anyone found anything yet on this.

He might be targeting the larger nodes. I had to whitelist my miners at the firewall to keep him out. It started about 20 hours ago. DOA went from 2-4% to 40-50%. A lot of traffic was coming over tor exit nodes, but trying to blacklist him was like playing whack-a-mole, so one less public node here.

I suspected something was up the past few days, My local DOA is 4-5 % reasonable, but my efficiency rate is a bot high. Looks like i should move the Node to a SSD drive. That usually helps about 5% on the efficiency rating.

Hope he gows away and plays on some one else pool.

Prelude

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Quote from: Chupacabras on February 11, 2015, 10:30:51 PM

Quote from: kano on February 11, 2015, 09:34:13 PM

Quote from: Chupacabras on February 11, 2015, 06:26:02 AM

To the DEV.
This is not hop proof.

Set up that user who GHS drop for 30 min or more lose there shares and his shares will be distribute among the users who stay longest.
This will make it hop proof and people will stay or go for good.

I was in P2pool for 6 months and it was the pool that pay the most, but since the bitcoin drop to 200 dollars it just died. If you look at the history 3 block per day and some days up to 5 blocks. I guest those days a long gone.

Thanks.

It's PPLNS - learn about how PPLNS works - rather than making guesses based on small random samples that are not representative of the population and then coming up with some ludicrous idea about how to screw up a PPLNS pool.

But I guess, more importantly, learn a little about p2pool.
No node except your own node knows anything about your mining except when you find a share-chain share.
So your idea means that any p2pool node with less than something like 20THs will never get paid ... yay good idea there Tongue

I was going to take my time to answer you back, nut honestly I cant waist my time. You are just dumb to what is going on. The best of luck for you guys.

Yeah, everyone else is dumb. It's surely not you who is dumb. Roll Eyes

You make absolutely no sense.

Get the fuck out and stop wasting "your" time. Roll Eyes

Chupacabras

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Quote from: Chupacabras on February 11, 2015, 10:30:51 PM

Quote from: kano on February 11, 2015, 09:34:13 PM

Quote from: Chupacabras on February 11, 2015, 06:26:02 AM

To the DEV.
This is not hop proof.

Set up that user who GHS drop for 30 min or more lose there shares and his shares will be distribute among the users who stay longest.
This will make it hop proof and people will stay or go for good.

I was in P2pool for 6 months and it was the pool that pay the most, but since the bitcoin drop to 200 dollars it just died. If you look at the history 3 block per day and some days up to 5 blocks. I guest those days a long gone.

Thanks.

It's PPLNS - learn about how PPLNS works - rather than making guesses based on small random samples that are not representative of the population and then coming up with some ludicrous idea about how to screw up a PPLNS pool.

But I guess, more importantly, learn a little about p2pool.
No node except your own node knows anything about your mining except when you find a share-chain share.
So your idea means that any p2pool node with less than something like 20THs will never get paid ... yay good idea there Tongue

I was going to take my time to answer you back, but honestly I cant waist my time. You are just dumb to what is going on. The best of luck for you guys.

Now one positive thing about the pool; is that when you need help, you get it. That i can not take away from this team.

My quote is just a suggestion to keep miners in one place, work together and get paid well.

Chupacabras

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Quote from: kano on February 11, 2015, 09:34:13 PM

Quote from: Chupacabras on February 11, 2015, 06:26:02 AM

To the DEV.
This is not hop proof.

Set up that user who GHS drop for 30 min or more lose there shares and his shares will be distribute among the users who stay longest.
This will make it hop proof and people will stay or go for good.

I was in P2pool for 6 months and it was the pool that pay the most, but since the bitcoin drop to 200 dollars it just died. If you look at the history 3 block per day and some days up to 5 blocks. I guest those days a long gone.

Thanks.

It's PPLNS - learn about how PPLNS works - rather than making guesses based on small random samples that are not representative of the population and then coming up with some ludicrous idea about how to screw up a PPLNS pool.

But I guess, more importantly, learn a little about p2pool.
No node except your own node knows anything about your mining except when you find a share-chain share.
So your idea means that any p2pool node with less than something like 20THs will never get paid ... yay good idea there Tongue

I was going to take my time to answer you back, nut honestly I cant waist my time. You are just dumb to what is going on. The best of luck for you guys.

kano

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Quote from: Chupacabras on February 11, 2015, 06:26:02 AM

To the DEV.
This is not hop proof.

Set up that user who GHS drop for 30 min or more lose there shares and his shares will be distribute among the users who stay longest.
This will make it hop proof and people will stay or go for good.

I was in P2pool for 6 months and it was the pool that pay the most, but since the bitcoin drop to 200 dollars it just died. If you look at the history 3 block per day and some days up to 5 blocks. I guest those days a long gone.

Thanks.

It's PPLNS - learn about how PPLNS works - rather than making guesses based on small random samples that are not representative of the population and then coming up with some ludicrous idea about how to screw up a PPLNS pool.

But I guess, more importantly, learn a little about p2pool.
No node except your own node knows anything about your mining except when you find a share-chain share.
So your idea means that any p2pool node with less than something like 20THs will never get paid ... yay good idea there Tongue

yslyung

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Quote from: rav3n_pl on February 11, 2015, 03:19:30 PM

Quote from: yslyung on February 11, 2015, 01:19:14 PM

Quote from: rav3n_pl on February 11, 2015, 03:29:04 AM

Try my skydrive, just uploaded latest win64 builds.

i'm getting lots of these:

(...)
p2pool.util.jsonrpc.NarrowError: -12345 p2pool is downloading shares

This means that P2Pool is syncing. Wait few (5?) minutes before you connect miner.

it's working well now after synching. thx for the upload & update.

jcumins

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Quote from: ?? on ??

If you're running a public node I suggest checking your graphs. Some dickhole is spamming work requests without doing any actual mining. It causes massive DOA spikes.

How long ago did this start. I am the only one on my node and it seems to be doing fine.

Has anyone found anything yet on this.

Chupacabras

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Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on February 11, 2015, 09:52:11 AM

Quote from: Chupacabras on February 11, 2015, 06:26:02 AM

To the DEV.
This is not hop proof.

Set up that user who GHS drop for 30 min or more lose there shares and his shares will be distribute among the users who stay longest.
This will make it hop proof and people will stay or go for good.

I was in P2pool for 6 months and it was the pool that pay the most, but since the bitcoin drop to 200 dollars it just died. If you look at the history 3 block per day and some days up to 5 blocks. I guest those days a long gone.

Thanks.

If you've been around here for 6 months as you state, you'll know that the dev does not interact with the community at all, so you're wasting your time asking for changes.

There is no such thing as hop-proof. Nothing you do can prevent somebody from moving off of this pool and onto another. This pool is definitely not hopper friendly, though. It takes a long time to ramp up your shares on the chain. Because it takes so long for you to ramp up, it deters you from moving from pool to pool because you're not getting the full potential of your hashing power. It's the same with any PPLNS pool.

Let's take an example. For our example, we have a miner who expects to find 1 share per day and the pool expects to find 1 block per day. If that miner only stays for 1 day, he'll only get 1 share on the chain. If he stayed for a week, he'd have 3 shares on the chain:

Day 1 - 1 share
Day 2 - 2 shares
Day 3 - 3 shares
Day 4 - 3 shares
Day 5 - 3 shares
...

Your suggestion doesn't work. For example, let's say that I'm a die-hard p2pool miner, but I don't own my own gear, I rent it. Let's say that I forgot to send coins to the rental site and my rental ends. I don't get it back up within the 30 minutes. According to your plan, I lose everything. What if that is 200TH/s worth of shares? Well, right now, that would get you about 2.5BTC if a block were found. You're saying that this person should forfeit that 2.5BTC. Yeah, good luck getting support for that.

As for history, please do look at the historical block finds. Sure, p2pool has had some exceptionally lucky streaks. It's also had some pretty exceptionally bad luck streaks, too. You'll see that it's not all roses and 3 and 5 block days when the price of BTC was over $200. Take a look back through this thread and you'll see plenty of times people making posts about, "can we get a block please?" - even well before BTC dropped to its current price point.

The guilty ones are the first one to come out....

rav3n_pl

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Quote from: yslyung on February 11, 2015, 01:19:14 PM

Quote from: rav3n_pl on February 11, 2015, 03:29:04 AM

Try my skydrive, just uploaded latest win64 builds.

i'm getting lots of these:

(...)
p2pool.util.jsonrpc.NarrowError: -12345 p2pool is downloading shares

This means that P2Pool is syncing. Wait few (5?) minutes before you connect miner.

bonds

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Quote from: yslyung on February 11, 2015, 01:19:14 PM

Quote from: rav3n_pl on February 11, 2015, 03:29:04 AM

Try my skydrive, just uploaded latest win64 builds.

p2pool.util.jsonrpc.NarrowError: -12345 p2pool is downloading shares

This might be a dumb question, but is your BitcoinQT fully synced?

yslyung

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Quote from: rav3n_pl on February 11, 2015, 03:29:04 AM

Try my skydrive, just uploaded latest win64 builds.

i'm getting lots of these:

File "twisted\internet\base.pyc", line 800, in runUntilCurrent

--- ---
File "p2pool\bitcoin\stratum.pyc", line 38, in _send_work

File "p2pool\bitcoin\worker_interface.pyc", line 129, in get_work

File "p2pool\work.pyc", line 243, in get_work

p2pool.util.jsonrpc.NarrowError: -12345 p2pool is downloading shares
Unhandled Error
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "p2pool\main.pyc", line 666, in run

File "twisted\internet\base.pyc", line 1169, in run

File "twisted\internet\base.pyc", line 1178, in mainLoop

File "twisted\internet\base.pyc", line 800, in runUntilCurrent

--- ---
File "p2pool\bitcoin\stratum.pyc", line 38, in _send_work

File "p2pool\bitcoin\worker_interface.pyc", line 129, in get_work

File "p2pool\work.pyc", line 243, in get_work

p2pool.util.jsonrpc.NarrowError: -12345 p2pool is downloading shares

bonds

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Quote from: rav3n_pl on February 11, 2015, 03:29:04 AM

Try my skydrive, just uploaded latest win64 builds.

I may check that out myself. Is there anywhere I can look to see what changes may be present in this build versus the tolder 13.4 build on the p2pool.in site?

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