Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 218. (Read 2592023 times)

If you've been around here for 6 months as you state, you'll know that the dev does not interact with the community at all, so you're wasting your time asking for changes.

There is no such thing as hop-proof.  Nothing you do can prevent somebody from moving off of this pool and onto another.  This pool is definitely not hopper friendly, though.  It takes a long time to ramp up your shares on the chain.  Because it takes so long for you to ramp up, it deters you from moving from pool to pool because you're not getting the full potential of your hashing power.  It's the same with any PPLNS pool.

Let's take an example.  For our example, we have a miner who expects to find 1 share per day and the pool expects to find 1 block per day.  If that miner only stays for 1 day, he'll only get 1 share on the chain.  If he stayed for a week, he'd have 3 shares on the chain:

Day 1 - 1 share
Day 2 - 2 shares
Day 3 - 3 shares
Day 4 - 3 shares
Day 5 - 3 shares
...

Your suggestion doesn't work.  For example, let's say that I'm a die-hard p2pool miner, but I don't own my own gear, I rent it.  Let's say that I forgot to send coins to the rental site and my rental ends.  I don't get it back up within the 30 minutes.  According to your plan, I lose everything.  What if that is 200TH/s worth of shares?  Well, right now, that would get you about 2.5BTC if a block were found.  You're saying that this person should forfeit that 2.5BTC.  Yeah, good luck getting support for that.

As for history, please do look at the historical block finds.  Sure, p2pool has had some exceptionally lucky streaks.  It's also had some pretty exceptionally bad luck streaks, too.  You'll see that it's not all roses and 3 and 5 block days when the price of BTC was over $200.  Take a look back through this thread and you'll see plenty of times people making posts about, "can we get a block please?" - even well before BTC dropped to its current price point.

To the DEV.
This is not hop proof.

Set up that user who GHS drop for 30 min or more lose there shares and his shares will be distribute among the users who stay longest.
This will make it hop proof and people will stay or go for good.

I was in P2pool for 6 months and it was the pool that pay the most, but since the bitcoin drop to 200 dollars it just died. If you look at the history 3 block per day and some days up to 5 blocks. I guest those days a long gone.  

Thanks.

Right now the pool is showing:

Global pool rate:   3.21 PH/s (DOA 438.63 TH/s / 13.67%)   

As far as someone big coming and going it could be a large miner that rents his hash out and when its not rented then its here.

It is very true what you say. That why i left the pool.

Try my skydrive, just uploaded latest win64 builds.

yeps, i've been using the exe version & it runs well on windows. what i want is an updated version of p2pool but sadly there isn't any update for the .exe version.

any kind soul can help to compile the latest .exe version ?

I just used the executable download from here: http://p2pool.in/#download  Seems to work fine on 64 bit Windows.

boys, need some info/help here. i downloaded latest version from github & managed to get it up & running in windows together with the req.

Python 2.7.9 (pywin32)
Twisted 14.0.2
Zope.Interface 3.8.0
python win32 api
python win32 api wmi wrapper 1.4.9

all of them are 32 bit versions, my pc is 64 bit (read somewhere that someone successfully ran it on 64 bit machine using 32 bit ver's cuz 64 bit ver's didnt work)

at first pool did not run properly came up with errors but after a while when it's done downloading some shares in the chain & a restart in bitcoin core it ran !

but after a while it hangs up especially when more miners are connecting to the node.

any ideas why ?

Your house is tiny........

Still, it's the thought that counts. I think 

I'd donate my house 

Oh wait, it's rented. Meh, I'll donate it anyway......

LOL... That's quite a few tips and donations

Ah, but with the tips & donations you'd get from a complete re-write of p2pool in C you'd be able to just sit back & do what you want for the rest of your life!........

Same here.  And, honestly, if I had the time ... there are lots of things I'd be doing before rewriting p2pool.

M

If you're suffering from Bitcoin sucking your bandwidth, use the "maxconnections=n" (n=whatever number you like - try 14 or 12) command in your bitcoin.conf file  


+1 000 000!!

Take a look at the historical charts on windpath's site: http://minefast.coincadence.com/p2pool-stats.php.  You can see the hash rate and active miners reported up to a 6 month window.  We can certainly see a downward trend, and I think this can be explained by more and more home-based miners turning off their equipment as difficulty has risen and value has dropped.  The big guys (i.e. those with multiple PHs of gear) are typically not mining on p2pool, but rather are likely to run their own pools.

Let's face it, mining in p2pool is pretty much a niche market experience.  While we all (members like PatMan, windpath, IYFTech, myself who have been here for a year or longer) espouse its value and praise its decentralization, the reality is Joe Sixpack miner can't be bothered to setup and run his own node.  Furthermore, most of those miners can't handle the inherent variance in p2pool.  They like their steady little trickle payouts and naturally migrate towards the large, centralized pools.  

This thread is full of discussions amongst members about what needs to be done.  Solving the variance problem.  Making running a node more user friendly.  Making p2pool more performant by rewriting it in a language other than python.  In my opinion, decentralization is the single most powerful feature that p2pool brings to the table.  Unfortunately, p2pool has no active development effort, and hasn't had it for a very long time.  Yes, there are a number of people who have stepped up to provide some great front ends and data availability (rav3n, justino, windpath, nonnakip to name a few), but the core code itself is in need of attention.  The original developer has had little to no involvement with the community and nobody in the community has stepped up to take over the project.

If I had the time, I'd love to organize a hackathon.  Unfortunately, Bitcoin mining is a hobby and my own schedule prevents me from taking on a larger role.  I'm sure a lot of others of us here are in the same boat.  Oh well, when I win the Power Ball tomorrow, I'll have plenty of time on my hands

Very true, also keep in mind pool rate is a very rough estimate based on submitted share and will always have a pretty large swing, 1PH swing up and down for the estimate is pretty typical...

Don't panic 

People come & go constantly - like every pool. There are no problems. Keep calm & mine 

people lost interest in p2pool? pool rate was 3ph+ in dec-jan, now its 1.5-2.5 PH max. Also dont know who is the big guy who comes in and goes out now and then. I see big deviation from 1.5PH to 2.5PH frequently. why arent the miners staying at the pool or pool has some problem?

ok started the node, everything is good except some of the time bitcoin-qt make so much upload that kills my internet latency. I installed netlimiter and limited the up stream to 150kb. How can i restrict the upload only for the ppl that pull the blocks and not to the p2pool? is that affecting my income for my node? thanks

just found a block.
hope the luck god return.... more block incoming.