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I would like to share my deep doubts about the sense of changing cgminer queue parameter.
I know there are many guys here setting queue to 0, but documentation says there has to be 0+ (nonzero) value, so if You set 0 You set 1.
Bitmain sets default 4096 for S3, 8192 for S4/5 units. Personally I do not see ANY difference in what is set there. Yes, ckolivas has written few times, that probably that number is too high, but he also says, he is not author of a driver. So we have to suppose it is better to set there 1 just because it is default setting of cgminer?
Spondoolies... I do not have any idea what queue value is it using, but probably default, so probably 1. I did not study it too much, but are there the same chips? Probably not.

Deep doubts? I posted the results of queue 0 v queue 1 a while ago here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8348972

It is not a hard & fast rule, as everyone has a different set up & different circumstances - so it's best to try both for a while & check the results. Also, I've only ever found that changing the queue setting to 0 only benefits Bitmain hardware, probably due to the inferior firmware/hardware, as my Spondoolies gear runs fine with the default cgminer queue setting of 1.

It's a case of testing, checking & testing again..... Wink

Thank You. It seems clear. Can You please share which firmware/cgminer versions are You using there?

Yeah sure, the test was done using the August 26th firmware (antMiner_S320140826.bin) with ckolivas S3 binary that fixes the stale share submission issue that Bitmain ignored. I found this firmware to be the most stable version for my S3's, & when used with ckolivas's binary they finally performed as they should do with p2pool  Smiley
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I would like to share my deep doubts about the sense of changing cgminer queue parameter.
I know there are many guys here setting queue to 0, but documentation says there has to be 0+ (nonzero) value, so if You set 0 You set 1.
Bitmain sets default 4096 for S3, 8192 for S4/5 units. Personally I do not see ANY difference in what is set there. Yes, ckolivas has written few times, that probably that number is too high, but he also says, he is not author of a driver. So we have to suppose it is better to set there 1 just because it is default setting of cgminer?
Spondoolies... I do not have any idea what queue value is it using, but probably default, so probably 1. I did not study it too much, but are there the same chips? Probably not.

Deep doubts? I posted the results of queue 0 v queue 1 a while ago here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8348972

It is not a hard & fast rule, as everyone has a different set up & different circumstances - so it's best to try both for a while & check the results. Also, I've only ever found that changing the queue setting to 0 only benefits Bitmain hardware, probably due to the inferior firmware/hardware, as my Spondoolies gear runs fine with the default cgminer queue setting of 1.

It's a case of testing, checking & testing again..... Wink

Thank You. It seems clear. Can You please share which firmware/cgminer versions are You using there?
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I would like to share my deep doubts about the sense of changing cgminer queue parameter.
I know there are many guys here setting queue to 0, but documentation says there has to be 0+ (nonzero) value, so if You set 0 You set 1.
Bitmain sets default 4096 for S3, 8192 for S4/5 units. Personally I do not see ANY difference in what is set there. Yes, ckolivas has written few times, that probably that number is too high, but he also says, he is not author of a driver. So we have to suppose it is better to set there 1 just because it is default setting of cgminer?
Spondoolies... I do not have any idea what queue value is it using, but probably default, so probably 1. I did not study it too much, but are there the same chips? Probably not.

Deep doubts? I posted the results of queue 0 v queue 1 a while ago here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8348972

It is not a hard & fast rule, as everyone has a different set up & different circumstances - so it's best to try both for a while & check the results. Also, I've only ever found that changing the queue setting to 0 only benefits Bitmain hardware, probably due to the inferior firmware/hardware, as my Spondoolies gear runs fine with the default cgminer queue setting of 1.

It's a case of testing, checking & testing again..... Wink
legendary
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Mine Mine Mine
question : http://p2pool-nodes.info/ ... it's special nodes of P2Pool system ? I mean, can my IP adress can be display here ? (not a problem, it's displayed too on the direct IP connexion between members of P2Pool ... when you look on the router incoming connexion).

http://nodes.p2pool.co/

this is much better

post up yr pool details and you will be listed by the site owner soon.
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question : http://p2pool-nodes.info/ ... it's special nodes of P2Pool system ? I mean, can my IP adress can be display here ? (not a problem, it's displayed too on the direct IP connexion between members of P2Pool ... when you look on the router incoming connexion).
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
Congratulations on finding your first block!

And, to whoever made the donation to p2pool miners, I thank you very much.

Yes, congrats!

And look, a second donation just came through... Pretty cool! Smiley
Again, thanks for the donation whoever is sending them!
legendary
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Congratulations on finding your first block!

And, to whoever made the donation to p2pool miners, I thank you very much.

Yes, congrats!

And look, a second donation just came through... Pretty cool! Smiley
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
Congratulations on finding your first block!

And, to whoever made the donation to p2pool miners, I thank you very much.
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what will be the best configuration for getting more shares?
Im running at 5.6 Th. but i only get 4 to 5 shares a day. my pay rate is at 0.035

the user name on the miners i have them with /2000..
Miners that i have S1,S2,S3,S4
My node is running on Win2k8

Thanks.


why /2000 ? min share diff now is roughly 7-9 million +

maybe posting your config/setup might help

try to optimize your pool by :

having a good internet connection, make sure ports are opened, etc

enough memory/cpu to run the pool ? a SSD perhaps ?

+1 on the setting of queue on the ants

how's the latency ? bitcoin.conf can be edited to helpout a little

how abt the local DOA's & stale rate & Valid/Orphans/Dead shares doing ?

Efficiency 100% & above ?

also a little luck is needed too Wink

more info prolly more answers.

don't mean to be an a*s but by just asking plainly for help there ain't gonna be much answers.

now can we hit some blocks Huh grrrrrrr Super Dry yaiks !


this is what i have in bitcoin.cof

rpcuser = bitcoin
rpcpassword = 1N3misrwjkelr;qlejkwr;qlkwejrq;kl
server = 1
blockmaxsize = 500000
mintxfee = 0.000001
minrelaytxfee = 0.000001
maxconnections = 125

also do you mean that i should have 7000 or 9000 instead of 2000?


default blockmaxsize is already 750000 try that & see or you can go max to 1000000

try raising both tx & relay fee to 0.00001

again max conn is 125 default, you can increase, leave it at default or lower it if you've got connection/bandwidth limitations (if there are limitations, i wont suggest running a pool or maybe you can upgrade it)

the share diff changes all the time, either you can set min diff or slightly above, if it's above it will use the higher but not the lower you've set

happy mining.

tbh, if you're not sure what does those commands do, best is to leave it at defaults. ain't broken don't fix it as the old saying goes but no harm trying.


Again i want to thank all of you here.. My cherry got pop.  I found a block...


Miner Status

Summary
Elapsed   GH/S(5s)   GH/S(avg)       FoundBlocks           LocalWork      Utility      WU                      BestShare
1d28m12s  1,950.82  1,973.81               1                  88,010,293   26.36     27,627.24       125062429760


These are my new numbers... thanks

Pool rate: 1.68PH/s (14% DOA+orphan) Share difficulty: 8060000

Node uptime: 1.9 days Peers: 6 out, 2 in

Local rate: 5.19TH/s (2.6% DOA) Expected time to share: 1.9 hours

Shares: 26 total (1 orphaned, 0 dead) Efficiency: 112.2%

Payout if a block were found NOW: 0.05827971 BTC to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Expected after mining for 24 hours: 0.0769 BTC per block.

Current block value: 25.10895134 BTC Expected time to block: 1.2 days
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I would like to share my deep doubts about the sense of changing cgminer queue parameter.
I know there are many guys here setting queue to 0, but documentation says there has to be 0+ (nonzero) value, so if You set 0 You set 1.
Bitmain sets default 4096 for S3, 8192 for S4/5 units. Personally I do not see ANY difference in what is set there. Yes, ckolivas has written few times, that probably that number is too high, but he also says, he is not author of a driver. So we have to suppose it is better to set there 1 just because it is default setting of cgminer?
Spondoolies... I do not have any idea what queue value is it using, but probably default, so probably 1. I did not study it too much, but are there the same chips? Probably not.
What the queue is good for?
I have tried mining solo some easy altcoin to see, if it makes difference to use value 1 or 1024. Miner is 100GHs (just two pensil moded blades from S1 connected directly thru cp2101 to the laptop with compiled cgminer 4.7.0). No difference there.
From some time I doubt it makes sense to change queue parameter and I do not change it. Let me know if You have any prove of the fact it should increase efficiency and why You think it is so.
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Are we there yet?
And a block!  Grin

more blox ! btw, sometimes i see you online sometimes don't. i mean your pool.

c'mon people come join me @ : *pool been hitting good shares*

Pool : stratum+tcp://captminerp2pool.ddns.net:9332     
Worker : Your BTC Address For Payment     
Password : Anything

Yes, I make tweaks here and there and if there is no one besides me mining, I'll make the changes and take the chance to reboot the machine. Due to the way I have it set up, it goes offline for about 30 mins for each reboot :p
legendary
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And a block!  Grin

more blox ! btw, sometimes i see you online sometimes don't. i mean your pool.

c'mon people come join me @ : *pool been hitting good shares*

Pool : stratum+tcp://captminerp2pool.ddns.net:9332     
Worker : Your BTC Address For Payment     
Password : Anything
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sr. member
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Are we there yet?
And a block!  Grin
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@theseraphgabriel, have you already upgraded the S1 to the Kano-cgminer version https://github.com/kanoi/cgminer-binaries/tree/master/AntS1? If you are confident to make changes, you can use putty from your node server to access the unit. In addition there is the queue setting for both the S1 and S3 that you can change to 1 or 0 as both seem about the same but some have had better results with 0 over 1 and vice versa, this could be related to luck at the time of testing. CK the developer of cgminer suggested to use 1, some of us run 0 as well though.

I am not up on the S3 units with respect to the best firmware or if BITMAIN integrated the changes that CK provided as I no longer have S3 units. If you do a search here for queue I am sure you will find abundant reading material to help you with your decision. I did find this from December about the S3 and software versions, looks like some good information for you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750220.100

Hope this helps.

TY Duce I will try this and see I did try this on my S1 but if I'm not mistaking I had to do a hard reset which probably wiped it will try again though. Only tested new things and editing with my S1 as I will be buying S3 or S5 (if released) upgrade boards for it. Will try all you mentioned TY for your help.
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Is there nowhere a european Miner for my 0% Fee P2Pool Node? The node feels like blue without Miner Sad

http://bitcoin.web-rss-verzeichnis.de:9332/static/

Pool: stratum+tcp://bitcoin.web-rss-verzeichnis.de:9332
Username: Your BTC Address
Password: not need this

All you need is P2Pool ... da da da da da ... All you need is P2Pool ... All you need is P2Pool Pool Pool ..... P2pool is all you need....  Grin
legendary
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Is there still a way to contribute toward the reward for p2pool miners? I would like to support decentralized mining Smiley

Here is an easy way online:

http://blisterpool.com/p2pdonate
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Imposition of ORder = Escalation of Chaos
Is there still a way to contribute toward the reward for p2pool miners? I would like to support decentralized mining Smiley
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@theseraphgabriel, have you already upgraded the S1 to the Kano-cgminer version https://github.com/kanoi/cgminer-binaries/tree/master/AntS1? If you are confident to make changes, you can use putty from your node server to access the unit. In addition there is the queue setting for both the S1 and S3 that you can change to 1 or 0 as both seem about the same but some have had better results with 0 over 1 and vice versa, this could be related to luck at the time of testing. CK the developer of cgminer suggested to use 1, some of us run 0 as well though.

I am not up on the S3 units with respect to the best firmware or if BITMAIN integrated the changes that CK provided as I no longer have S3 units. If you do a search here for queue I am sure you will find abundant reading material to help you with your decision. I did find this from December about the S3 and software versions, looks like some good information for you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750220.100

Hope this helps.
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I am new to p2pool and have set it up before, have ports forwarded, have 6 out and 9 in, 120%+ EFF, p2pool itself seems to work just fine, other then the issue I posted and was ignored BTW. I am finding shares and only have 600 GHs (I know it's a hobby my wife finds BTC to hard to be true...) but something just seems off here with my miner stats.

 I have an S3 and a S1 the best share for the S1 is over 14 million and I think the only one of the two miners that is finding shares because the S3 is only at 8 million best share so no way it can find one when diff is at 10-12 mill this is after a 48 hr runtime . I have tried the whole (address)/5000+512 thing and the 512 part does work but the 5000 or changing the share diff doesn't work at all for me no matter what I put for (address)/  so is this part of the p2pool code broken or am I missing something here???

IDK if this is a firmware issue with the S3 or what but something is wrong here with the S3 it works fine on all other pools but I cant stand them anymore sry but I cant.

Any suggestions?Huh


O and rock on P2Pool today been a good day...
Last time I tried was obviously a bad week as I found 1 share all week and made more at a pool...

Pc stats that only the node runs off of nothing else is on this PC...

Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 @ 2.2 GHz
4 GB RAM
Win 7 64

This was just an old PC

Finding a "high" difficulty share is just a matter of luck.  Every share your miner finds has a value.  If the value is high enough, you win a share on the p2pool block chain.  If it's super high, it's considered a block on the BTC block chain and everyone in p2pool wins.

But it's all based on luck.  The faster your machine is hashing, the more likely it is that you'll find a higher share in a given period of time.  But it's not guaranteed.

M

Yea I did p2pool with terracoin, uno, and others and the share difficulty adjustment worked with those so though maybe something was wrong could just be because BTC has such a high diff I guess...

but thank you
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