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Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 370. (Read 2591964 times)

legendary
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Alternative p2pool.info Suggestions:

I'm working on getting this live this week. I plan to try and reproduce all the data from the original, and include some other stuff we are already storing. I've looked over the p2pool.info Azure code (not something I am familiar with) and have decided that it will be faster to write my own version on a LAMP stack as that is already the foundation of the Coin Cadence site.

As you might expect there are already some substantial differences between Coin Cadence and p2pool.info as to what and how p2pool data is stored and collected.

The biggest change/advantage of my version will be the fact that all data is gathered locally from p2pool and bitcoind compared with the current p2pool.info implementation which pulls block data from blockchain.info

I have a few questions for the community as a whole as to how to calculate and present some of the stats:

Estimated time to block:
This is currently calculated on the fly by p2pool using the pool hash rate and "attempts_to_block" from:

http://mining.coincadence.com:9332/local_stats

Code:
      attempts_to_block=
        parseInt(local_stats.attempts_to_block || 0);
      time_to_block= attempts_to_block / pool_hash_rate;
      $('#expected_time_to_block').text((''+time_to_block).formatSeconds());

The problem I see is when to store this value in the DB. The pool hash rate fluctuates pretty wildly even when miners are relatively consistent, this is a fact of life when trying to calculate the global rate of the distributed pool. Add the fact that miners are joining and leaving p2pool on a regular basis and it becomes even more complicated.

Should the expected time to block be stored immediately after or before a block is found? Should it be stored every x minutes and an average calculated on a per block basis? Very open to suggestions!

Pool Luck:
Assuming we have decided on a satisfactory answer to storing the expected time to block above, this is pretty straight forward...

The question is how the luck stats are presented. In the current p2pool.info implementation luck is presented as a % over the last 7, 30 and 90 days.

I'm considering 2 alternatives:

1. Borrowing Slush's time frame and using 1, 7 and 30 days.

2. Basing it on blocks rather then time, i.e. current block luck, last 5 blocks, last 15 blocks, etc...

What do you think?

Estimated Hashrate:
in current p2pool.info implementation:
Quote
The following users / addresses have submitted at least 1 valid share in the past 24 hours. Note: Hashrates are very rough estimates based on the number of shares submitted in the past day. They may be off by 10-20% or more due to variance.

This uses some fuzzy math that I don't fully understand. If anyone has a method of calculating this and can explain it to me I'd love to hear it....

Here is my proposed solution, and to be honest I'm not sure if it is better or worse then the current implementation, and am very open to suggestions:

Using data provided by p2pool here: http://mining.coincadence.com:9332/current_payouts

Retrieve the following: current total block payout (including tx fees), payout per miner, global pool hashrate

Calculate miner % of total expected block payout.

Miner estimated hash rate = % of global pool speed based on % of expected payout??

So for example if a miner has 10% of the expected total payout, we can assume they have 10% of the global hash rate...

Again, fuzzy math at best and am open to suggestions....

Summary
I'd like feedback on my 3 suggested methods:

1. When to store estimated time to block (every x minutes and use average, just before or just after a block is found)
2. Calculating/Display format for pool luck
3. Estimating miner hash rates

Thanks!


legendary
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I received 2 donations as well that were not from coin generation:

Amount: 0.00015444
Time: 2014-06-10 08:28:17

Amount: 0.00010090
Time: 2014-06-10 08:28:17

Thanks to whoever you are Smiley

Also, a note on Kano's S1 update:

I have 6 S1's running on p2pool, they were all running fine, but I installed the update on one of them to test.

It had no effect on p2pool earnings, but it did change the time format of LSTime in the UI, originally it showed in elapsed time (i.e. 5 seconds ago), after the update it showed in a unix timestamp, and after the suggested fix it showed as the full date/time. Not a big deal, but I prefer the elapsed time...

Before updating any miner I would strongly suggest testing it on a p2pool node first. All my S1's ran just fine from the factory on p2pool, and even better when overclocked Wink

I would suggest a minimum test window of 6 hours, with a full day being preferred. If after a day your hashrate seems low, then I would consider an update.
hero member
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So, right before the latest block found and usual virgin generated BTC payout, there was another much smaller payout that wasn't generated, but it did go to p2pool associated wallet addresses.

Was that a general donation to P2Pool miners, or was that mdude77's merged mining donations being sent out to everyone?

I only see the two block payments. nothing in between from p2pool


It doesn't show up on the UI or P2pool stats...but it was definitely a payout to p2pool associated addresses.  At least I got it in the address I only use for P2Pool.

Here's the Transaction: https://blockchain.info/address/1Q3PppNci5gTKmxpCa7VytXxc3PMv7XDkm


I wonder if this new donation site mentioned on reddit was the source of the mystery tip:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27rgvk/p2pool_donation_tool_now_available_to_help/

It makes use of the donation capabilities in p2pool already, but puts a web UI in front of it.

UPDATE: mystery solved... It was from this donation site: http://blisterpool.com/p2pdonationstatus/f052c50b722773c288a081abf9a5ea68

Hmmm. The odd thing was that 3 donations went out and I was only part of one of them.  
How does p2pool distribute donations?  Does the code randomly choose a set number based on amount of donation to minimize dust?  I would think it would be better to hold in the chain until a certain threshold and then pay out to everyone who has active shares. Anyone know?

UPDATE 2:  just got my second donation through this site.  Another node just donated their 1% and it was relatively sizeable so more p2pool mining addresses got a cut.   I really like where this is going.
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so username would be address/0+230
cool I will try that
I am actually averaging 963ghs with my S2 on p2pool @ 110% efficiency over 3 days and I was averaging 1003ghs on ghash.io

yuip, that's for an s1, your s2 would have a different figure. 963 isn't too bad, when you have 1th/s 40gh/s isn't much but it's 40gh/s you would otherwise have generating coin.
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Thanks for the link. I have not put my S1s on my p2pool yet because with my S2 on it they get high diff on the s1's. Now that I hear S2 is not currently efficient on p2pool I may swap and put my S1's on it with the new cgminer and put my S2 on reg pool.

I assume you void warranty when you upgrade cgminer this way Smiley

Is it possible to restore to default after this update by using the reset button on S1? or would I have to remove the updated cgminer manually?

you can revert back easily as you only rename the old one. you simply rename it back to go back to default. I don't think changing cgminer could void hardware warranty but you'll need to ask Bitmain about that.
If you have your s1's and the s2 on your node then use the diff setting as specified a couple of pages back.

essentially you add a /0+diff to the end of your miner address. for an s1 at around 200gh/s it's /0+230

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If your running S1's set to 0 ("0" defaults to lowest p2pool diff, currently 1677854.73)

And to 220.4 (optimized for 190GH/s)

is calculated as your hash rate in KH/s times 0.00000116

i.e. 190,000,000 * 0.00000116 = 220.4

so username would be address/0+230
cool I will try that
I am actually averaging 963ghs with my S2 on p2pool @ 110% efficiency over 3 days and I was averaging 1003ghs on ghash.io
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Thanks for the link. I have not put my S1s on my p2pool yet because with my S2 on it they get high diff on the s1's. Now that I hear S2 is not currently efficient on p2pool I may swap and put my S1's on it with the new cgminer and put my S2 on reg pool.

I assume you void warranty when you upgrade cgminer this way Smiley

Is it possible to restore to default after this update by using the reset button on S1? or would I have to remove the updated cgminer manually?

you can revert back easily as you only rename the old one. you simply rename it back to go back to default. I don't think changing cgminer could void hardware warranty but you'll need to ask Bitmain about that.
If you have your s1's and the s2 on your node then use the diff setting as specified a couple of pages back.

essentially you add a /0+diff to the end of your miner address. for an s1 at around 200gh/s it's /0+230

Quote
If your running S1's set to 0 ("0" defaults to lowest p2pool diff, currently 1677854.73)

And to 220.4 (optimized for 190GH/s)

is calculated as your hash rate in KH/s times 0.00000116

i.e. 190,000,000 * 0.00000116 = 220.4
sr. member
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So, right before the latest block found and usual virgin generated BTC payout, there was another much smaller payout that wasn't generated, but it did go to p2pool associated wallet addresses.

Was that a general donation to P2Pool miners, or was that mdude77's merged mining donations being sent out to everyone?

Wasn't me.

M

Oh well... may be a donation then?  Good news regardless...

Wait, None of you guys got this little tip in your P2Pool associated addresses?

I'm not in p2pool.  I'm not wasting 10% of my hashpower pointing my S2s at it. 

M

P2pool not worth it with S2?

Kano is working on a driver that may help this. It's always worth it but you need to be ok with initially loosing 10% due to efficiency issues with p2pool. Hopefully Kano can get the new cgminer driver out for the s2 soon Smiley

If losing 10% of hash power I would be more profitable to stay on regular pool until this is solved. I don't mind the variance but if it less profitable for an s2 on p2pool then regular pool it kind of defeats the purpose. Same issue for S1?

This new driver would be offered through a bitmain update ?

Kano already has an updated CGMiner for the S1 that works great with p2pool (and other pools).
You can get it here: https://github.com/kanoi/cgminer-binaries/tree/master/AntS1

He's still working on the S2 version.

Thanks for the link. I have not put my S1s on my p2pool yet because with my S2 on it they get high diff on the s1's. Now that I hear S2 is not currently efficient on p2pool I may swap and put my S1's on it with the new cgminer and put my S2 on reg pool.

I assume you void warranty when you upgrade cgminer this way Smiley

Is it possible to restore to default after this update by using the reset button on S1? or would I have to remove the updated cgminer manually?
hero member
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So, right before the latest block found and usual virgin generated BTC payout, there was another much smaller payout that wasn't generated, but it did go to p2pool associated wallet addresses.

Was that a general donation to P2Pool miners, or was that mdude77's merged mining donations being sent out to everyone?

Wasn't me.

M

Oh well... may be a donation then?  Good news regardless...

Wait, None of you guys got this little tip in your P2Pool associated addresses?

I'm not in p2pool.  I'm not wasting 10% of my hashpower pointing my S2s at it. 

M

P2pool not worth it with S2?

Kano is working on a driver that may help this. It's always worth it but you need to be ok with initially loosing 10% due to efficiency issues with p2pool. Hopefully Kano can get the new cgminer driver out for the s2 soon Smiley

If losing 10% of hash power I would be more profitable to stay on regular pool until this is solved. I don't mind the variance but if it less profitable for an s2 on p2pool then regular pool it kind of defeats the purpose. Same issue for S1?

This new driver would be offered through a bitmain update ?

Kano already has an updated CGMiner for the S1 that works great with p2pool (and other pools).
You can get it here: https://github.com/kanoi/cgminer-binaries/tree/master/AntS1

He's still working on the S2 version.
sr. member
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So, right before the latest block found and usual virgin generated BTC payout, there was another much smaller payout that wasn't generated, but it did go to p2pool associated wallet addresses.

Was that a general donation to P2Pool miners, or was that mdude77's merged mining donations being sent out to everyone?

Wasn't me.

M

Oh well... may be a donation then?  Good news regardless...

Wait, None of you guys got this little tip in your P2Pool associated addresses?

I'm not in p2pool.  I'm not wasting 10% of my hashpower pointing my S2s at it.  

M

P2pool not worth it with S2?

Kano is working on a driver that may help this. It's always worth it but you need to be ok with initially loosing 10% due to efficiency issues with p2pool. Hopefully Kano can get the new cgminer driver out for the s2 soon Smiley

If losing 10% of hash power I would be more profitable to stay on regular pool until this is solved. I don't mind the variance but if it less profitable for an s2 on p2pool then regular pool it kind of defeats the purpose. Same issue for S1?

This new driver would be offered through a bitmain update ?
sr. member
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So, right before the latest block found and usual virgin generated BTC payout, there was another much smaller payout that wasn't generated, but it did go to p2pool associated wallet addresses.

Was that a general donation to P2Pool miners, or was that mdude77's merged mining donations being sent out to everyone?

Wasn't me.

M

Oh well... may be a donation then?  Good news regardless...

Wait, None of you guys got this little tip in your P2Pool associated addresses?

I'm not in p2pool.  I'm not wasting 10% of my hashpower pointing my S2s at it. 

M

P2pool not worth it with S2?

Kano is working on a driver that may help this. It's always worth it but you need to be ok with initially loosing 10% due to efficiency issues with p2pool. Hopefully Kano can get the new cgminer driver out for the s2 soon Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 397
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So, right before the latest block found and usual virgin generated BTC payout, there was another much smaller payout that wasn't generated, but it did go to p2pool associated wallet addresses.

Was that a general donation to P2Pool miners, or was that mdude77's merged mining donations being sent out to everyone?

Wasn't me.

M

Oh well... may be a donation then?  Good news regardless...

Wait, None of you guys got this little tip in your P2Pool associated addresses?

I'm not in p2pool.  I'm not wasting 10% of my hashpower pointing my S2s at it. 

M

P2pool not worth it with S2?
sr. member
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actually p2pool.info is open source and I have a copy running on Azure in an effort to help. only thing is I don't know how to get it up to date. It shows current users and hash rate as well as expected time to next block but the luck and time between older blocks is out due to those stats missing.

https://github.com/ervwalter/p2pool.info is the github

p2poolinfo.azurewebsites.net is the site I ran up.

As little coding as I know I have managed to help out where I can by running up this extra instance and doing some work on the node front end.

My mistake then... Sorry about that.

What we need are more developers taking a look at the codebase and figuring out what's up with the data.
And if Forrestv can find the time, maybe he can chime in as well. 

Of course this really applies to both p2pool.info and p2pool core. It's long past time to spread the development love beyond a single point of failure.

No problems, I get that my history isn't as high or as long as some but one thing I do is my research. when I start something I look pretty hard to find out how it all goes together and try, where I can, to help if I have the skills to do so.
That is why I find it a little offensive for someone to try to pull rank on me. It's not about that, it's about doing what you can and if you can't help then donate or help get more resources in. Complaining doesn't really achieve much, right... Wink

Windpath has some good stats that he posted in recent pages in this thread but I wish I could get the blocks up to date on the instance I ran up so that people using p2pool could have more confidence and transparency.

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actually p2pool.info is open source and I have a copy running on Azure in an effort to help. only thing is I don't know how to get it up to date. It shows current users and hash rate as well as expected time to next block but the luck and time between older blocks is out due to those stats missing.

https://github.com/ervwalter/p2pool.info is the github

p2poolinfo.azurewebsites.net is the site I ran up.

As little coding as I know I have managed to help out where I can by running up this extra instance and doing some work on the node front end.

My mistake then... Sorry about that.

What we need are more developers taking a look at the codebase and figuring out what's up with the data.
And if Forrestv can find the time, maybe he can chime in as well. 

Of course this really applies to both p2pool.info and p2pool core. It's long past time to spread the development love beyond a single point of failure.
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PatMan, my time or rank on this board should not have any bearing on my ability to work with open source projects and know how to work with projects such as this and with the devs who graciously give their time to do these projects.
I've been involved for many years on various boards, forums and projects, not that I have to justify myself to you.

I am simply calling it as I see it. yes it would be nice to see more development and I love new builds as much as the next but what goal does complaining about it achieve? He may have been taking donations but it's probably far less than the commercial rate he should be working for such a project and I think these days it's few and far between to have a node with donation set.

You choose p2pool to support decentralized pool hashing or you go take more regular payouts elsewhere. Let's actually try to find a solution to problems rather than just pointing them out. That's the whole point of an open source project.

What do we need to do to attract devs to contributing to the core p2pool project? obviously the original dev has either no time, no interest and/or no motivation to contribute further so how do we get more on board to help?

Like yourself I am no coder either and would contribute if I could, however, since I can't I have no place to complain about that lack of development. put up or shut up really, pretty good mantra in life and especially open source projects. Wink



Just to bring this tangent back to earth.... And to be fair....

The original questions surrounded the fixing and updating of the p2pook.info status site.

This is not a p2pool node and the code for this Azure hosted site (please other long time p2poolers, please correct me if I'm wrong), was closed source and not available on Github.

P2pool.info was originally a 3rd party service that was well maintained and updated for awhile and many used it as a great reference (including some of the prominent pool comparing statisticians here on the forums). It was basically the only place that people could see the overall long term block statistics, user statistics, and most important for a lot of us, the Luck Graph for the whole p2pool network.

Then, earlier this year, forrestv took over running the formerly third party site because the original owner/developer didn't have the time to devote to it.  He did the correct thing and announced in this thread that he needed to move on and asked for someone to take over. Forrestv graciously stepped up when no one stepped up and the original developer gave him the site and all associated account/code stuff.

Jump ahead a few months and now p2pool.info is down for more than a month and forrestv replied to my query saying he would take a look when he had a chance (a few weeks ago).

No one else can really contribute to p2pool.info at the moment, unlike p2pool in general, due to it not being open. So we can only poke forrestv and see if he can take the time to get it back up and running. 

That's why people are up in arms.   So your argument about other developers joining in to help and the open source argument doesn't really apply in this case.

actually p2pool.info is open source and I have a copy running on Azure in an effort to help. only thing is I don't know how to get it up to date. It shows current users and hash rate as well as expected time to next block but the luck and time between older blocks is out due to those stats missing.

https://github.com/ervwalter/p2pool.info is the github

p2poolinfo.azurewebsites.net is the site I ran up.

As little coding as I know I have managed to help out where I can by running up this extra instance and doing some work on the node front end.
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PatMan, my time or rank on this board should not have any bearing on my ability to work with open source projects and know how to work with projects such as this and with the devs who graciously give their time to do these projects.
I've been involved for many years on various boards, forums and projects, not that I have to justify myself to you.

I am simply calling it as I see it. yes it would be nice to see more development and I love new builds as much as the next but what goal does complaining about it achieve? He may have been taking donations but it's probably far less than the commercial rate he should be working for such a project and I think these days it's few and far between to have a node with donation set.

You choose p2pool to support decentralized pool hashing or you go take more regular payouts elsewhere. Let's actually try to find a solution to problems rather than just pointing them out. That's the whole point of an open source project.

What do we need to do to attract devs to contributing to the core p2pool project? obviously the original dev has either no time, no interest and/or no motivation to contribute further so how do we get more on board to help?

Like yourself I am no coder either and would contribute if I could, however, since I can't I have no place to complain about that lack of development. put up or shut up really, pretty good mantra in life and especially open source projects. Wink



Just to bring this tangent back to earth.... And to be fair....

The original questions surrounded the fixing and updating of the p2pook.info status site.

This is not a p2pool node and the code for this Azure hosted site (please other long time p2poolers, please correct me if I'm wrong), was closed source and not available on Github.

P2pool.info was originally a 3rd party service that was well maintained and updated for awhile and many used it as a great reference (including some of the prominent pool comparing statisticians here on the forums). It was basically the only place that people could see the overall long term block statistics, user statistics, and most important for a lot of us, the Luck Graph for the whole p2pool network.

Then, earlier this year, forrestv took over running the formerly third party site because the original owner/developer didn't have the time to devote to it.  He did the correct thing and announced in this thread that he needed to move on and asked for someone to take over. Forrestv graciously stepped up when no one stepped up and the original developer gave him the site and all associated account/code stuff.

Jump ahead a few months and now p2pool.info is down for more than a month and forrestv replied to my query saying he would take a look when he had a chance (a few weeks ago).

No one else can really contribute to p2pool.info at the moment, unlike p2pool in general, due to it not being open. So we can only poke forrestv and see if he can take the time to get it back up and running. 

That's why people are up in arms.   So your argument about other developers joining in to help and the open source argument doesn't really apply in this case.
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PatMan, my time or rank on this board should not have any bearing on my ability to work with open source projects and know how to work with projects such as this and with the devs who graciously give their time to do these projects.
I've been involved for many years on various boards, forums and projects, not that I have to justify myself to you.

I am simply calling it as I see it. yes it would be nice to see more development and I love new builds as much as the next but what goal does complaining about it achieve? He may have been taking donations but it's probably far less than the commercial rate he should be working for such a project and I think these days it's few and far between to have a node with donation set.

You choose p2pool to support decentralized pool hashing or you go take more regular payouts elsewhere. Let's actually try to find a solution to problems rather than just pointing them out. That's the whole point of an open source project.

What do we need to do to attract devs to contributing to the core p2pool project? obviously the original dev has either no time, no interest and/or no motivation to contribute further so how do we get more on board to help?

Like yourself I am no coder either and would contribute if I could, however, since I can't I have no place to complain about that lack of development. put up or shut up really, pretty good mantra in life and especially open source projects. Wink

legendary
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Don't want to use p2pool? At least use a small pool like mmpool

Death to ghash and its users
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Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....
I'm not wasting 10% of my hashpower pointing my S2s at it.

Same issue here, seems most of my new hardware has to be pointed somewhere else....... Angry
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Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....
I wasn't going to bother responding to this, but as you're relatively new here I thought I'd help you out on a few points, this being a forum & all that:

Look, all p2pool code is available on githib, including the stat page. .

Correct. And?

The dev does this for free essentially

No, he doesn't. He collects donations from hundreds of users.

If you complain about lack of updates

Complaining? That's for noobs. I'm stating facts. It's lack of any development & communication I'm commenting on.

then I'm sorry but you just sound like an ungrateful brat.

No need to be sorry, but name calling is a little weak & childish. Let's not go there.

Why would the dev respond to such behavior?

Dev doesn't respond to anything, at all. That's the problem. See above.

Either put your money where your mouth is and donate or contribute code yourself.

If I was a coder, I would. For free.

Don't come crying here about lack of dev updates.

Who's crying? Didn't you see the happy faces in my last comment? And I've been mining "here" since day one - quite a little longer than your 70 posts  Wink

You can choose to use another commercial pool if you are not happy.

Do you think I don't know that?


I chose to use p2pool from the very beginning of my mining days because I believe that the p2p ethos is perfect for a p2p crypto - that's why we are all here. But, as other users have correctly pointed out for over year, p2pool has become outdated abandonware. Mining hardware has changed dramatically over the last few months even, and every pool has adjusted it's code accordingly to match the ever changing needs of it's users hardware. Every pool apart from p2pool that is. Most of the successful pools devs are in constant communication with it's users on their pools forum thread so as to iron out any issues that occur due to the constantly changing hardware being used, but not this one. Not a squeak. New users are left with having to "hope" their expensive hardware works with p2pool, and if it doesn't - that's tough - and the dev won't post or do anything about it, so more potential miners are lost, again. Don't you think that this might have something to do with why p2pool hasn't grown at the same rate as every other pool over the last year?

Another p2pool user posted a few pages back:   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7145465   and was 100% correct. There are many, many posts throughout this thread saying exactly the same thing, and all have gone unanswered or ignored. Every now and again some noob will come along in a temper tantrum & spit his dummy out because he doesn't agree with what someone says about p2pool  - but in a few months they will be gone like the rest, while I will still be here, trying to get p2pool to be the pool that it should be. If that means upsetting a few people, so be it. It's bad enough nothing being done as it is, but if we get to the stage where nobody says anything about it - we're screwed for sure.

So, learn to live with it, while you're here. And keep your insults to yourself.

Peace & Love.
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So, right before the latest block found and usual virgin generated BTC payout, there was another much smaller payout that wasn't generated, but it did go to p2pool associated wallet addresses.

Was that a general donation to P2Pool miners, or was that mdude77's merged mining donations being sent out to everyone?

Wasn't me.

M

Oh well... may be a donation then?  Good news regardless...

Wait, None of you guys got this little tip in your P2Pool associated addresses?

I'm not in p2pool.  I'm not wasting 10% of my hashpower pointing my S2s at it. 

M

You still run your node though right?  Assuming you have a default address associated with it?

Yes.  Those types of distributions typically go out based on share size on the alt chain.  My share size is 0... so I get nothing.

When I sent out my merged mine distribution a month or so ago, my share size was small enough it classified as dust.  Sneeze and you'd blow it away and never know it was there to begin with.

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