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Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 448. (Read 2591964 times)

legendary
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I must be missing something.  According to p2pool stats, current share difficulty is 829k.  It'd take a whole lot of USB erupters to get a share that size in any reasonable amount of time.

The high share difficulty is one of the downsides for p2pool.
legendary
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BFL 65nm ASIC and ASICminer's USB Erupters are working great on p2pool. They are best performing devices for all SHA256 altcoins and for p2pool as well. They getting most efficiency, beating all other machines, resulting with higher payouts than expected on p2pool.

I must be missing something.  According to p2pool stats, current share difficulty is 829k.  It'd take a whole lot of USB erupters to get a share that size in any reasonable amount of time.

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legendary
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BFL 65nm ASIC and ASICminer's USB Erupters are working great on p2pool. They are best performing devices for all SHA256 altcoins and for p2pool as well. They getting most efficiency, beating all other machines, resulting with higher payouts than expected on p2pool.

ALL other devices, from ALL other manufacturers, (Antminers, Bi-Fury USBs, BE Blades etc.) they have significant bugs and flaws, and are not able to mine alternative currencies, like ZET, FRC. And they of course not mining on p2pool as well.
member
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Just a quick question, i was told on reddit that low hash rate miners don't really work on p2p is that true?

All miners don't really work on p2pool.  But hey, the devs would rather run around waving their arms in the air, blaming everyone else rather than fixing p2pool.

None of the ASICMiner devices work properly, Avalons don't work properly, KnC don't work properly, and Antminers don't work properly.  There's issues with BFL stuff too.  Oddly enough, all those miners work fine with almost every other pool.  But, it's the hardware manufacturer's fault they don't work with p2pool.  Obviously.   Roll Eyes

Lol doesn't really answer my question but thank you. I was told that because of the difficulty that p2p is looking for, miners that have <1 Gh/s are pointless because they can't/don't solve shares of the required difficulty.
legendary
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I have no intention of keeping Bitcoins long term I cash them in for fiat just about daily. I'm now starting to buy items on overstock with my BTC as well.

Well then the higher luck may interest you.  P2pool is more efficient for block broadcasting, so it gets fewer orphans.  This gives p2pool slightly higher luck.

That's true.
Right now, stats are saying:
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Pool Luck(?) (7 days, 30 days, 90 days): 118.2%     105.1%     111.3%
legendary
Activity: 1232
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I have no intention of keeping Bitcoins long term I cash them in for fiat just about daily. I'm now starting to buy items on overstock with my BTC as well.

Well then the higher luck may interest you.  P2pool is more efficient for block broadcasting, so it gets fewer orphans.  This gives p2pool slightly higher luck.
newbie
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I have no intention of keeping Bitcoins long term I cash them in for fiat just about daily. I'm now starting to buy items on overstock with my BTC as well.
legendary
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What is the FINANCIAL incentive for me to switch to p2pool from GHASH.IO?

P2pool has slightly higher "luck" due to a lower number of orphans. 

If you intend to hold bitcoin long term, there is a financial benefit to keeping the system healthy.
newbie
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What is the FINANCIAL incentive for me to switch to p2pool from GHASH.IO?
newbie
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I have the worst luck, I start mining p2pool again and the pool has really great luck for the two days before I get my first share in and as soon as I do get a share we get the longest block in 2 months. Damnit!

Much patience is needed for p2pool.
hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 501
Just a quick question, i was told on reddit that low hash rate miners don't really work on p2p is that true?

All miners don't really work on p2pool.  But hey, the devs would rather run around waving their arms in the air, blaming everyone else rather than fixing p2pool.

None of the ASICMiner devices work properly, Avalons don't work properly, KnC don't work properly, and Antminers don't work properly.  There's issues with BFL stuff too.  Oddly enough, all those miners work fine with almost every other pool.  But, it's the hardware manufacturer's fault they don't work with p2pool.  Obviously.   Roll Eyes
legendary
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Just to know, I am wondering why I can't attach stratum-proxy to my p2pool node. I saw about 100 pages back a conversation about some error with stratum-proxy, did anyone ever resolve that?
you dont need stratum proxy for p2pool
member
Activity: 80
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Just a quick question, i was told on reddit that low hash rate miners don't really work on p2p is that true?
sr. member
Activity: 448
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Just to know, I am wondering why I can't attach stratum-proxy to my p2pool node. I saw about 100 pages back a conversation about some error with stratum-proxy, did anyone ever resolve that?
full member
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36hours no block .. can someone reboot the server please? < WINK >

EDIT:  does p2pool abandon current block after the retarget? Should be like Solo since it is probably over the current diff target ?
donator
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I realise that p2pool would be worse due to the faster block rate, but even with a 10 minute block, no LP support would reduce efficiency.
Actually, it does.
legendary
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Antminers are not responding to LP/work restart, don't bother to setup p2pool for them, they are just not compatible and you will get 30% or more Rejected work.

Wow, wouldn't that cause inefficiency on "normal" pools too?

I realise that p2pool would be worse due to the faster block rate, but even with a 10 minute block, no LP support would reduce efficiency.
hero member
Activity: 591
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Has anyone had experience running an Antminer on P2Pool. It's got a built in Gui I think very similar to Avalons. Currently I only know how to set up stratum based servers. Would I need to SSH and change the settings to mine P2P? Thanks!

Antminers are not responding to LP/work restart, don't bother to setup p2pool for them, they are just not compatible and you will get 30% or more Rejected work.

Huh, so p2pool doesn't work with more ASICs.  Oh dear.
Once again, it sounds like a manufacturer defect.
hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 501
Has anyone had experience running an Antminer on P2Pool. It's got a built in Gui I think very similar to Avalons. Currently I only know how to set up stratum based servers. Would I need to SSH and change the settings to mine P2P? Thanks!

Antminers are not responding to LP/work restart, don't bother to setup p2pool for them, they are just not compatible and you will get 30% or more Rejected work.

Huh, so p2pool doesn't work with more ASICs.  Oh dear.
hero member
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Has anyone had experience running an Antminer on P2Pool. It's got a built in Gui I think very similar to Avalons. Currently I only know how to set up stratum based servers. Would I need to SSH and change the settings to mine P2P? Thanks!

Antminers are not responding to LP/work restart, don't bother to setup p2pool for them, they are just not compatible and you will get 30% or more Rejected work.

Hmm...I've had mine running on p2pool.org for a couple of days now, and so far the earnings are outperforming BTC Guild.  What you describe sounds like the same problem with BFL FPGA hardware and p2pool.  Rejected work is running roughly in the mid-20s overall, with the Antminer S1 having the lowest rate of rejects and a Klondike K16 having the highest (I also have a Bitfury rig with two H-cards and a couple of BFL Jalapeños).

One thing I noticed with p2pool.org's stats:

http://p2pool.org:9332/static/graphs.html?Day

If you scan down to the getblocktemplate latency chart, it's running about 1 second.  The last time I tried running a p2pool node, I was seeing similar (or higher) numbers.  It also looks like it's chewing through a ton of RAM.  If I were to take a stab at running a p2pool node again, what would be most important to maximizing performance?  I'm thinking an SSD and lots of RAM, but how much?  It's looking like even 8 GB may become marginal (at best) before too long.  How critical is CPU speed?  Would one of the cast-off Pentium 4s or Athlon 64s gathering dust in my closet be sufficient, should I use one of those to free up the Core 2 Duo E8400 in one of my OpenELEC boxes (where most of the heavy lifting is done by the GPU anyway), or should I go for something faster still?

(For my stats on this node, search for "1mine.")

Edit: If it makes a difference, my Antminer is a newer model, possibly with newer firmware.  The controller board version is 1.2 (dated 4 Dec 13) and the miner board version is 1.4 (dated 1 Dec 13); each miner board has a 6-pin PCI Express power connector in addition to the screw terminals.  It arrived here from the manufacturer on 8 Jan 14.
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