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legendary
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Ruu \o/
Is there a need for a high performance well connected public p2pool node? I could set one up behind a ckpool sanitiser to optimise performance and propagation speed. Last time I did this however, hardly any miners actually used the service.
legendary
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
I'll vouch for Og and Nastypool; we did some business together in the past and he is a square dude.

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Was nice for the pool to get a block earlier today.
Good for the variance to drop a little.
Anyone owning up to this one?
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
It pays out weekly on Fridays (or at least it did when I ran my yearlong tests).  You can see that thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nastypop-vs-standard-p2pool-891298

It's a pretty slick system that they implemented.
hero member
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I don't think p2pool works for small miners anymore.

I have 50GH/s pointed at p2pool.org for a couple of weeks now, and it hasn't found a single share. The miner stats say around 20hours estimated time for a share, yet hundreds of hours have passed without one.

The high variance for small miners is why we developed the NastyPoP payout method, where even the smallest miners get paid fairly for their contributions to p2pool.  I'd recommend checking it out.  We charge 0% fees and even add 0.75% of the NastyFans weekly distribution to be split among NastyPoP miners to provide a >100% payout.

https://nastyfans.org/nastypool/
How exactly does the NastyPoP payout method work? Does it payout with p2pool payouts or is it a separate manual payout?
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I don't think p2pool works for small miners anymore.

I have 50GH/s pointed at p2pool.org for a couple of weeks now, and it hasn't found a single share. The miner stats say around 20hours estimated time for a share, yet hundreds of hours have passed without one.

The high variance for small miners is why we developed the NastyPoP payout method, where even the smallest miners get paid fairly for their contributions to p2pool.  I'd recommend checking it out.  We charge 0% fees and even add 0.75% of the NastyFans weekly distribution to be split among NastyPoP miners to provide a >100% payout.

https://nastyfans.org/nastypool/
That's a really good idea, I'll certainly pass the details on if this comes up in other places.
I'm ok with a decent hash rate but there are still loads of people this would benefit, and it helps p2Pool as well.
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I don't think p2pool works for small miners anymore.

I have 50GH/s pointed at p2pool.org for a couple of weeks now, and it hasn't found a single share. The miner stats say around 20hours estimated time for a share, yet hundreds of hours have passed without one.

The high variance for small miners is why we developed the NastyPoP payout method, where even the smallest miners get paid fairly for their contributions to p2pool.  I'd recommend checking it out.  We charge 0% fees and even add 0.75% of the NastyFans weekly distribution to be split among NastyPoP miners to provide a >100% payout.

https://nastyfans.org/nastypool/
hero member
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I don't think p2pool works for small miners anymore.

I have 50GH/s pointed at p2pool.org for a couple of weeks now, and it hasn't found a single share. The miner stats say around 20hours estimated time for a share, yet hundreds of hours have passed without one.

I would suggest lottery mining on something like http://solo.ckpool.org/. 50GH/s probably only produces dust payments.
legendary
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I don't think p2pool works for small miners anymore.

I have 50GH/s pointed at p2pool.org for a couple of weeks now, and it hasn't found a single share. The miner stats say around 20hours estimated time for a share, yet hundreds of hours have passed without one.


If anyone is interested, there is some initial code to enable a p2pool backed mining pool here: https://github.com/yrral86/proxy-p2pool

Essentially, it allows a group of people to mine to a single p2pool address and it records the shares each address/username submits.  The log file can then be parsed to determine payouts.  I ran it for a couple months quite some time ago, but there was not much interest at that time.

PM me if you need some help setting it up.
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I don't think p2pool works for small miners anymore.

I have 50GH/s pointed at p2pool.org for a couple of weeks now, and it hasn't found a single share. The miner stats say around 20hours estimated time for a share, yet hundreds of hours have passed without one.
legendary
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2) What in the HE double tooth pics happened between p2pool.in and p2pool.org?

I don't know all the history but I'll explain what I can, most of the "old timers" who were here when I came around are not active anymore, but perhaps someone will fill in the blanks.

p2pool.in was developed by someone other than me or Forest, when the developer moved on he gave control to Forrest, when p2pool.in broke Forrest did not have the time/inclination to fix it.

When that happened I built minefast.coincadence.com (now p2pool.org)  mostly out of a desire to have the data for myself, but I figured I'd share it.

The story with p2pool.org was that it was a squatted domain, when Forrest launched p2pool the then owner set up a large high fee node for Bitcoin and many altcoins rather then turning it over to Forrest, that is where all the warnings came from.

A couple/few years ago I reached out to the owner of p2pool.org and was able to negotiate a deal and buy the domain. I then shut down all the nodes and made it a simple information site for folks interested in p2pool.

A few months ago I was moving servers and decided to move the front end from minefast.coincadence.com to p2pool.org. At this point I also switched from 0 fee to 2% (1 for me, 1 for Forrest).

I developed the current site and own p2pool.org.
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I have a couple of questions.

1) How to configure my p2pool node as a full node that accepts incoming miners and properly reimburses them?

2) What in the HE double tooth pics happened between p2pool.in and p2pool.org? There seems to be something weird that happened and no search I have done on google or bitcointalk seems to provide any history or background. I went with the information provided by p2pool.org when I noticed the p2pool.in stats page appears to have stopped working sometime in 2015 between January and March. Being as it is now January 2017 it appears that p2pool.in was no longer providing network stats. Further research shows that p2pool.in was merged into p2pool.org's info when the GIT repository was changed from p2pool/forestv to p2pool/p2pool . Unfortunately there are still several places where there are dire warnings about using p2pool.org verses p2pool.in on various webpages and even on the old GIT for forestv. I heard references that forestv had taken a leave due to personal issues but I have not seen any official retraction stating that p2pool.org is ok to use.

The confusion surrounding question 2 needs to be addressed as I am thinking it is blocking many miners from choosing to go with p2pool in any form. Contradictory information often does not lead to wrong action, it leads to no action.

If this is too personal or touchy a subject then please email me with a response at dzimmerm56"at"g m a i l . c o m. (you will need to intelligently fix the addy, but I know all of you are intelligent)
Hi.
I have only been running a node for a month now but mining p2Pool on and off for a while now. I've decided to mine p2Pool for the forseable future.

Most of what you need to know can be found here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-guide-for-mining-efficiently-on-p2pool-includes-fud-repellent-and-faq-153232

And here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-complete-guide-to-p2pool-merged-mining-btcnmcdvcixci0c-plus-ltc-linux-62842

I run my node under Centos rather than Ubuntu.
It's not that difficult to do and most of the info in the first link, whilst a little old is still applicable.

It took about a week to fine tune my node and it runs really well.
I'm at www.ukp2pool.uk and it's a free public node.

Give it a try on an old PC first if you don't have much experience with Linux just to make sure you can.
If you have any questions then post up here I'm sure the community will help.

No issues using git pull from the two links I posted.
I have the latest version from here have no problems.

I believe p2Pool.org is forest's site not sure about the other one. I've come across it and the stats are years old.
The pool is very much alive and well, just needs more Miners so jump aboard.
Don't let the variance between blocks worry you, sit back and smile with a decent pay out.

Both p2Pool.org and the other are just nodes on the network, just like mine.
There is no master node anywhere, under the hood they are all the same.

member
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I have a couple of questions.

1) How to configure my p2pool node as a full node that accepts incoming miners and properly reimburses them?

2) What in the HE double tooth pics happened between p2pool.in and p2pool.org? There seems to be something weird that happened and no search I have done on google or bitcointalk seems to provide any history or background. I went with the information provided by p2pool.org when I noticed the p2pool.in stats page appears to have stopped working sometime in 2015 between January and March. Being as it is now January 2017 it appears that p2pool.in was no longer providing network stats. Further research shows that p2pool.in was merged into p2pool.org's info when the GIT repository was changed from p2pool/forestv to p2pool/p2pool . Unfortunately there are still several places where there are dire warnings about using p2pool.org verses p2pool.in on various webpages and even on the old GIT for forestv. I heard references that forestv had taken a leave due to personal issues but I have not seen any official retraction stating that p2pool.org is ok to use.

The confusion surrounding question 2 needs to be addressed as I am thinking it is blocking many miners from choosing to go with p2pool in any form. Contradictory information often does not lead to wrong action, it leads to no action.

If this is too personal or touchy a subject then please email me with a response at dzimmerm56"at"g m a i l . c o m. (you will need to intelligently fix the addy, but I know all of you are intelligent)
legendary
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But you can see the pool luck or not ?
Would be nice to know how windpath coded the stats page on p2Pool.org.
I would like to duplicate those extra stats on my node some place.
Useful information to know.

If you dig back through this thread I shared most of the calculations the node uses.

The PITA is setting up, populating, and then updating a DB...

Managed to get the node back up remotely, not sure what happened, will review the logs on Monday.
Ok cool I'll certainly have another trawl through.
I've gone over a lot of this thread already but was more than likely looking for something else and missed it.
Don't mind a database challenge now and again Smiley

Mine is a LAMP soulutuon, checks for new blocks every minute via cron, pulls the rest from existing p2pool end points and BTC cli, it's ugly and amateur otherwise I'd release it Wink
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But you can see the pool luck or not ?
Would be nice to know how windpath coded the stats page on p2Pool.org.
I would like to duplicate those extra stats on my node some place.
Useful information to know.

If you dig back through this thread I shared most of the calculations the node uses.

The PITA is setting up, populating, and then updating a DB...

Managed to get the node back up remotely, not sure what happened, will review the logs on Monday.
Ok cool I'll certainly have another trawl through.
I've gone over a lot of this thread already but was more than likely looking for something else and missed it.
Don't mind a database challenge now and again Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1258
Merit: 1027
But you can see the pool luck or not ?
Would be nice to know how windpath coded the stats page on p2Pool.org.
I would like to duplicate those extra stats on my node some place.
Useful information to know.

If you dig back through this thread I shared most of the calculations the node uses.

The PITA is setting up, populating, and then updating a DB...

Managed to get the node back up remotely, not sure what happened, will review the logs on Monday.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
But you can see the pool luck or not ?
Would be nice to know how windpath coded the stats page on p2Pool.org.
I would like to duplicate those extra stats on my node some place.
Useful information to know.
hero member
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 But you can see the pool luck or not ?
legendary
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
Likewise my full node here is running fine (I have a token amount of hash running, enough to keep the house warm)
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