[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 690.

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Quote from: rav3n_pl on June 02, 2012, 05:29:16 PM

Quote from: mdude77 on June 02, 2012, 04:24:28 PM

p2pool seems to far too regularly get 12-24+ hr blocks. When difficulty increases, that's going to get even longer.

Slush: 5-19 blocks/day @ 1300GH/s
P2pool: 2-5 blocks/day @ 200GH/s
Who wins? Where you can get more BTC?
My poor little 100-170MH/s makes 10x less in Slush than I take form p2pool.
I get 0,02 -0,04 /block in p2pool and about 0.0002/block in slush...

We just need pump hash rate a bit and block will come

Just not everyone gets PPLNS idea...
You NEED mine 24/7 there! No jumping!

BTW: preparing additional node on free cloudy VPS in europe, it is leeching bitcoin blocks now

If it will keep pool software running I`ll post address. No fancy thighs like p2poolmining, just plain simple node.

This is great deal for lazy/private miners: no registration, no need to run own bitcion client, just point miner using bitcoin address as user name and ready

Try 50btc.com (or btcguild or abcpool).
I've given up on p2pool. There is something seriously wrong with it (or I just got a really bad luck. Variance is a bitch, I guess)

In 12 hours on p2pool, my 3.5Gh/s rig generated (to be paid when block is found) a whole 0.31 BTC. Yesterday I switched to 50btc.com, the earnings were 1.15 BTC in the same 12 hour period.

Did you even read the message you quoted. Let me trim it down for you...

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Quote from: rav3n_pl on June 02, 2012, 05:29:16 PM

You NEED mine 24/7 there! No jumping!

In 12 hours on p2pool

See that? You jumped when you were specifically told not to jump. p2pool is not for jumpers.

ChanceCoats123

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The payout method between the two pools is kind of... well how do I put this... COMPLETELY different.

On P2pool (which uses Pay-per-last-n-shares method), you are paid for your respective shares (in the last 24 hours) ONLY when the pool finds a block.

On a pay-per-share pool, the pool owner eats the losses of any bad luck (hence the high(er) fees). This means that you get paid for every accepted share when it is sent.

While this gives a nice, consistent payout, there is never any chance you make extra money. When the pool has good luck, the pool operator pockets the extra cash, and the miners still only earn what they typically make per share. On a PPLNS pool, when there is good luck, the miners make proportionally more money. The flip side is that when bad luck comes around, PPS miners see no impact while PPLNS miners do.

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In 12 hours on p2pool, my 3.5Gh/s rig generated (to be paid when block is found) a whole 0.31 BTC. Yesterday I switched to 50btc.com, the earnings were 1.15 BTC in the same 12 hour period.

50BTC appears to be a PPS pool; p2pool is PPLNS. You need to mine for 24 hours before your payout is up to its full amount.

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Exactly with more benefits.

c_k

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Isn't that effectively 10% fee?

Just like deepbit pps?

bitpop

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90% isnt that bad, you still gets 0 fees and network protection.

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Quote from: rav3n_pl on June 02, 2012, 05:29:16 PM

Quote from: mdude77 on June 02, 2012, 04:24:28 PM

p2pool seems to far too regularly get 12-24+ hr blocks. When difficulty increases, that's going to get even longer.

Slush: 5-19 blocks/day @ 1300GH/s
P2pool: 2-5 blocks/day @ 200GH/s
Who wins? Where you can get more BTC?
My poor little 100-170MH/s makes 10x less in Slush than I take form p2pool.
I get 0,02 -0,04 /block in p2pool and about 0.0002/block in slush...

We just need pump hash rate a bit and block will come

Just not everyone gets PPLNS idea...
You NEED mine 24/7 there! No jumping!

I don't think you understand. p2pool either has the worst luck in the world, or there is something wrong with it. The recorded 90 days stats show it at 90% of what it should be. Someone else here said he tested it for 6 months, splitting his work 50/50, and he came out much further ahead on the non p2pool pool.

It may work for users with really low hash rates, but it doesn't cut it for the rest of us. I suspect if you try a free pool like ozcoin, you'll see what I mean.

M

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Quote from: mdude77 on June 02, 2012, 04:24:28 PM

p2pool seems to far too regularly get 12-24+ hr blocks. When difficulty increases, that's going to get even longer.

Slush: 5-19 blocks/day @ 1300GH/s
P2pool: 2-5 blocks/day @ 200GH/s
Who wins? Where you can get more BTC?
My poor little 100-170MH/s makes 10x less in Slush than I take form p2pool.
I get 0,02 -0,04 /block in p2pool and about 0.0002/block in slush...

We just need pump hash rate a bit and block will come

Just not everyone gets PPLNS idea...
You NEED mine 24/7 there! No jumping!

BTW: preparing additional node on free cloudy VPS in europe, it is leeching bitcoin blocks now

If it will keep pool software running I`ll post address. No fancy thighs like p2poolmining, just plain simple node.

This is great deal for lazy/private miners: no registration, no need to run own bitcion client, just point miner using bitcoin address as user name and ready

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I can't imagine what it'll be like when the difficulty increases.

M

What do you mean?

p2pool seems to far too regularly get 12-24+ hr blocks. When difficulty increases, that's going to get even longer.

M

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Quote from: Krak on June 02, 2012, 01:58:57 PM

Quote from: ChanceCoats123 on June 02, 2012, 01:57:55 PM

Oh trust me, it's no coincidence that we went from 5 hour blocks to 3 hours blocks to 2 hours blocks, and then "suddenly" back to 16 hour blocks. Angry

Superstitious much? Cheesy

Yes, and yes.

Quote from: mdude77 on June 02, 2012, 02:12:48 PM

Quote from: ChanceCoats123 on June 02, 2012, 01:57:55 PM

Oh trust me, it's no coincidence that we went from 5 hour blocks to 3 hours blocks to 2 hours blocks, and then "suddenly" back to 16 hour blocks. Angry

I can't imagine what it'll be like when the difficulty increases.

M

What do you mean?

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Quote from: ChanceCoats123 on June 02, 2012, 01:57:55 PM

Oh trust me, it's no coincidence that we went from 5 hour blocks to 3 hours blocks to 2 hours blocks, and then "suddenly" back to 16 hour blocks. Angry

I can't imagine what it'll be like when the difficulty increases.

M

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Quote from: ChanceCoats123 on June 02, 2012, 01:57:55 PM

Oh trust me, it's no coincidence that we went from 5 hour blocks to 3 hours blocks to 2 hours blocks, and then "suddenly" back to 16 hour blocks. Angry

Superstitious much? Cheesy

ChanceCoats123

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Oh trust me, it's no coincidence that we went from 5 hour blocks to 3 hours blocks to 2 hours blocks, and then "suddenly" back to 16 hour blocks. Angry

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Quote from: Tittiez on June 02, 2012, 11:55:27 AM

Quote from: rav3n_pl on June 02, 2012, 10:39:13 AM

Quote from: ChanceCoats123 on June 01, 2012, 11:47:40 PM

Quote from: eroxors on June 01, 2012, 08:53:20 PM

Some good luck today. Grin

What the fuck are you doing?

He kill it.... Cry

Good fucking job eroxors.

LOL

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Quote from: rav3n_pl on June 02, 2012, 10:39:13 AM

Quote from: ChanceCoats123 on June 01, 2012, 11:47:40 PM

Quote from: eroxors on June 01, 2012, 08:53:20 PM

Some good luck today. Grin

What the fuck are you doing?

He kill it.... Cry

Good fucking job eroxors.

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Quote from: ChanceCoats123 on June 01, 2012, 11:47:40 PM

Quote from: eroxors on June 01, 2012, 08:53:20 PM

Some good luck today. Grin

What the fuck are you doing?

He kill it.... Cry

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P2pmining.com has been testing using only difficulty 1 shares. It seems to help out on stale rates. May have something to do with some mining programs being confused by non diff 1 shares. The last p2pool update actually made it so only diff 1 shares would be served to miners no matter what postfix was added to the user name for this same reason.

in bitcoin/networks.py

Code:

nets = dict(
    bitcoin=math.Object(
        P2P_PREFIX='f9beb4d9'.decode('hex'),
        P2P_PORT=8333,
        ADDRESS_VERSION=0,
        RPC_PORT=8332,
        RPC_CHECK=defer.inlineCallbacks(lambda bitcoind: defer.returnValue(
            'bitcoinaddress' in (yield bitcoind.rpc_help()) and
            not (yield bitcoind.rpc_getinfo())['testnet']
        )),
        POW_FUNC=data.hash256,
        BLOCK_PERIOD=600, # s
        SYMBOL='BTC',
        CONF_FILE_FUNC=lambda: os.path.join(os.path.join(os.environ['APPDATA'], 'Bitcoin') if platform.system() == 'Windows' else os.path.expanduser('~/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin/') if platform.system() == 'Darwin' else os.path.expanduser('~/.bitcoin'), 'bitcoin.conf'),
        BLOCK_EXPLORER_URL_PREFIX='http://blockexplorer.com/block/',
        ADDRESS_EXPLORER_URL_PREFIX='http://blockexplorer.com/address/',
        SANE_TARGET_RANGE=(2**256//2**32 - 1 , 2**256//2**32 - 1),
    ),

The SANE_TARGET_RANGE is what limits the range of served shares. The max/min is the same number (which equates to diff 1). You would need to edit this range to allow for higher difficulty shares.

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Quote from: Ed on June 02, 2012, 04:14:25 AM

Quote from: check_status on June 01, 2012, 01:36:01 PM

-u bitcoinaddress+1 This helped to reduce D.O.A.

could you please explain that I should write in .conf

Code:

{
"pools" : [
	{
		"url" : "http://127.0.0.1:9332",
		"user" : "Ed",
		"pass" : "xxxxx"
	},

You're increasing your mining GPU's difficulty, it can be increased as high as you want, +300 for instance, will not effect other GPU's with different configs. I don't know how useful this will be outside of JayCoin's Modified version of P2pool. But if you wanted to try it out:

Code:

{
"pools" : [
	{
		"url" : "http://127.0.0.1:9332",
		"user" : "Ed+1",
		"pass" : "xxxxx"
	},

Ed

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Quote from: check_status on June 01, 2012, 01:36:01 PM

-u bitcoinaddress+1 This helped to reduce D.O.A.

could you please explain that I should write in .conf

Code:

{
"pools" : [
	{
		"url" : "http://127.0.0.1:9332",
		"user" : "Ed",
		"pass" : "xxxxx"
	},

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Quote from: eroxors on June 01, 2012, 08:53:20 PM

Some good luck today. Grin

What the fuck are you doing?

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