1GH/s, 20w, $500 — Butterflylabs, is it a scam? - page 45.

P4man

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Its not difficult to understand. Its only difficult if you pretend you do not see the difference.

One last time: as long as you have not actually sent the coins, to inaba or any other broker, you have not committed to anything and you can always back out with lame excuses when for instance butterfly labs says they accept your bet. You will lose internet connection for weeks, claim some theft or your wallet or whatever excuse. If you have already sent them, then you can not back out and then and only then do you actually risk losing the money rather than losing only face. And you would back out. I got 10 coins that say so

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So despite all the bold claims, you are not willing to put up that kind of money. You only want to make lots of noise and see if anyone would take you up on your bet. The only bet you are taking is small change and betting your face on the fact no one will bet 1000's worth of BTC against you. Since you dont seem to have much of a reputation, thats hardly very brave.

P4man

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IOW, you are still only risking small change and hinging your reputation on the assumption no one will bet you for 1000s of BTCs. But you are not actually taking the risk by sending 1000.
Q.E.D.

Butterfly Labs, please step forward and bet this man 1000BTC so we can see what his word is worth. Im betting 10 BTC he wont take the bet

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P4man

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Yes, I said 10, Ive just sent 10.
Are you going to send 10000 or just 1000 to inaba or are you willing to only risk small change and your face, but not that kind of money?

Inaba

legendary

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Here's a new escrow address for a second bet:

1PuepC3QTWsveqHx64FKUaQnp2jHQzmpHZ

Inaba

legendary

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Thank you Inaba for your help in this. Can I ask about your pool? What are your fees and do you have merged mining? I am a KC local (most of my life) and found out this guys location rather early on in this thread. The admins have threatened to ban me twice now for posting relevant information.

Eclipse Mining Consortium (https://eclipsemc.com) is a no fee pool. We use the Double Geometric reward system and we have merged mining (I think third or 4th pool to offer it?)... Solved 313 NMC blocks so far. We are also the only pool to offer direct Paypal payouts in USD instead of BTC. Paypal payouts in NMC are coming soon.

Sorry to derail the thread a bit, but I'm a shameless pimp.

sadpandatech

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Quote from: Inaba on November 10, 2011, 10:57:11 AM

Here's a couple pictures of the two buildings in question I just took (from the opposite side of street of each building in question):

http://eclipsemc.com/files/IMAG0048.jpg
http://eclipsemc.com/files/IMAG0049.jpg

They look the same to me. I would say the pictures are taken from the 3rd or 4th floor of Chambers Lofts.

Yes, the lofts are locked and the only way in is a keypad or access card. I think there is actually an intercom on the keypad, but I don't fancy the idea of calling people randomly from the keypad and demanding access, nor do I think BFL would want someone randomly showing up at the door.

Looking closely at these nicer pics it almost looks like the first few floors in Chambers Lofts are offices. Note the flourescent ceiling lights in a few of the windows. And just the oversized nature of some of the windows would suggest such. It would not be hard to call the leasing agent for that building and ask if they rent office space.. I posted a link with her number a few pages back....

DeathAndTaxes

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Gerald Davis

Quote from: Mousepotato on November 10, 2011, 12:31:23 PM

Too bad Moonco.in isn't around anymore so we could make these bets official.

You can make it official here
http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=141

Goat just likes to make simple things very complicated by having a human do (and take 37 posts) what a computer can do instantly.

fred0

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I noticed that their rig box is going on pre-order Nov 25.

bulanula

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This is really getting more real by the minute. Their offices do certainly seem to be legit now but the wonder dust product is nowhere to be found ...

P4man

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Where you not the one claiming that I was not really willing to bet? I will have to reread the thread when I have time.

Yes and by putting up 20 BTC you are hardly disproving me.
If you are indeed willing to bet what you say you are (reminder: *I* never made any claims about my willingness to bet) and you trust inaba with your money, you would send him those $10.000 and wait and see who, if anyone, picks up the gauntlet, even for even odds. THAT would disprove me. THAT would be putting your money were your mouth is. And THAT is what I say you will not do. Prove me wrong.

Dont wait for people to post here that they will accept, because the moment they do for any non trivial amount of money, you can just weasel out. All you risk is your face, but not your money. Send only 1000 BTC to inaba for anyone to bet against at even odds, even if no one has pledged to match it, and I will take those words back. Until then you are just shouting and making meaningless noises.

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I will match any ones bet on 2 to 1 odds assuming they support what BF labs says is true. Just give me 48 hours as from time to time I am involved in extreme work. I am helping the Thai government manage the flooding right now and honestly access to internet constantly is well hopeful.

Good luck with that.

Mousepotato

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Seal Cub Clubbing Club

Too bad Moonco.in isn't around anymore so we could make these bets official.

rjk

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1ngldh

Quote from: gmaxwell on November 10, 2011, 12:16:18 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

I just wanted to say that you guys are quite awesome betting here like gentlemen without threats, name calling, etc. It restores a bit of faith in these threads for me. Why can't the alt. currency losers do it this way?

Altcoin style would be to bet like gentlemen then set the building on fire to ensure outcomes. Wink

Don't be giving anyone ideas Tongue

gmaxwell

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Quote from: ?? on ??

I just wanted to say that you guys are quite awesome betting here like gentlemen without threats, name calling, etc. It restores a bit of faith in these threads for me. Why can't the alt. currency losers do it this way?

Altcoin style would be to bet like gentlemen then set the building on fire to ensure outcomes. Wink

P4man

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You can bet as many as you want here:
http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=141
With better odds!

BTW, no need for this attitude. you are the only doing all the shouting and bragging, Ive never even taken a position on wether BFL is legit or not, because I dont know; whatever I am willing to bet is my business. Why dont you put your money where you mouth is, and send 10.000 BTC to Inaba for anyone willing to bet against? Including Butterfly labs if they want to.

P4man

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There already is a nice betting pool, I even bet some coins there but for some reason goat doesnt want to use it.
Sorry to get you dragged in to this

Ill send them as soon as you publish the address.

oh and for my part, feel free to collect a small fee for your trouble.

Inaba

legendary

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No, let me make a new address tonight and you can Goat can send them to that, just so we can keep each bet separate. I suppose if I am to be a bookie, I should bring a BTC client with me to work, heh

I should open up a betting joint along with the pool.. then you can just transfer your funds from the pool to the horses and away you go.

P4man

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Inaba, do I send my 10 coins to the same address ? 1CzKrTnncqVuviR9iyBBL5KBJkHUtv4Sjp ?

Inaba

legendary

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Here's a couple pictures of the two buildings in question I just took (from the opposite side of street of each building in question):

http://eclipsemc.com/files/IMAG0048.jpg
http://eclipsemc.com/files/IMAG0049.jpg

They look the same to me. I would say the pictures are taken from the 3rd or 4th floor of Chambers Lofts.

Yes, the lofts are locked and the only way in is a keypad or access card. I think there is actually an intercom on the keypad, but I don't fancy the idea of calling people randomly from the keypad and demanding access, nor do I think BFL would want someone randomly showing up at the door.

DeathAndTaxes

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Gerald Davis

Quote from: avoid3d on November 10, 2011, 10:28:50 AM

I want someone to go by there again now Tongue

The last person who went said the lofts were locked and there were no signs for the business. So going there without an invite is useless.

avoid3d

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I want someone to go by there again now Tongue

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