2007-10-3 4-Star General Wesley Clark: The US will attack 7 countries in 5 years

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Quote from: niothor on June 16, 2014, 03:54:56 PM

I thought I saw you saying something about Lukoil previously but I coudn't remember where:

Alekperov is having good relations with Putin, as well as with the Western Politicians. That's is why the American/ European sanctions haven't targeted him, even after almost everyone else in the Russian oil / gas sector was affected.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 13, 2014, 03:51:43 AM

Quote from: niothor on June 12, 2014, 11:40:12 PM

Biggest one is owned by a russian company....

Don't you ever get bored with your anti western propaganda?

Lukoil is owned by a Muslim Azerbaijani, who has very close links to some of the American and British politicians. Azeris are one of the best allies of the US, in the FSU region. Real Russian companies such as Rosneft, Tatneft and Bashneft were ignored without any reason in favor of the American companies when the Iraqi fields were distributed.

I thought I saw you saying something about Lukoil previously but I coudn't remember where:

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Quote from: niothor on May 17, 2014, 02:13:04 PM

It really amazes me...NOT... that Gazprom would do such terrible things , just like the US and EU companies.

It is not the Gazprom which is stealing their land. Gazprom is basically a natural gas extracting company (although JSC Gazprom Neft, one of its subsidiaries engage in petroleum extraction). The culprits here are OAO Lukoil, owned by the billionaire oligarch Vagit Alekperov (who is originally from Azerbaidzhan). Lukoil is the second largest oil company in Russia, and Alekperov is in good terms with Putin.

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Quote from: RiverBoatBTC on June 13, 2014, 03:55:05 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 13, 2014, 03:51:43 AM

Quote from: niothor on June 12, 2014, 11:40:12 PM

Biggest one is owned by a russian company....

Don't you ever get bored with your anti western propaganda?

Lukoil is owned by a Muslim Azerbaijani, who has very close links to some of the American and British politicians. Azeris are one of the best allies of the US, in the FSU region. Real Russian companies such as Rosneft, Tatneft and Bashneft were ignored without any reason in favor of the American companies when the Iraqi fields were distributed.

Twist it lol

Lukoil CEO is Vagit Alekperov and is an Azerbaijani and Russian businessman and currently a President of the leading Russian oil company LUKOIL. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagit_Alekperov I cannot confirm nor deny US ties

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 13, 2014, 03:51:43 AM

Quote from: niothor on June 12, 2014, 11:40:12 PM

Biggest one is owned by a russian company....

Don't you ever get bored with your anti western propaganda?

Lukoil is owned by a Muslim Azerbaijani, who has very close links to some of the American and British politicians. Azeris are one of the best allies of the US, in the FSU region. Real Russian companies such as Rosneft, Tatneft and Bashneft were ignored without any reason in favor of the American companies when the Iraqi fields were distributed.

Twist it lol

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Quote from: niothor on June 12, 2014, 11:40:12 PM

Biggest one is owned by a russian company....

Don't you ever get bored with your anti western propaganda?

Lukoil is owned by a Muslim Azerbaijani, who has very close links to some of the American and British politicians. Azeris are one of the best allies of the US, in the FSU region. Real Russian companies such as Rosneft, Tatneft and Bashneft were ignored without any reason in favor of the American companies when the Iraqi fields were distributed.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2014, 11:38:26 PM

Quote from: Benjig on June 12, 2014, 06:53:19 PM

USA in fact is not attacking countries, they are making them to fight eachother, or causing civil wars.. so they dont need to waste soldiers Tongue

If the US does not send its troops, then who will guard all those oil wells and gas rigs, most of which are now owned by the American corporations? Anyway that is the #1 priority for the American government.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10731708/Russias-Lukoil-opens-giant-Iraq-oil-field-adding-to-crude-glut.html

Biggest one is owned by a russian company....

Don't you ever get bored with your anti western propaganda?

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Quote from: Benjig on June 12, 2014, 06:53:19 PM

USA in fact is not attacking countries, they are making them to fight eachother, or causing civil wars.. so they dont need to waste soldiers Tongue

If the US does not send its troops, then who will guard all those oil wells and gas rigs, most of which are now owned by the American corporations? Anyway that is the #1 priority for the American government.

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USA in fact is not attacking countries, they are making them to fight eachother, or causing civil wars.. so they dont need to waste soldiers Tongue

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2014, 06:03:42 AM

Quote from: niothor on June 10, 2014, 10:11:13 PM

Let me add the missing years:

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/components/multigraph/multigraph.php?w=606&h=216&style=db&sy=2009&ey=2014&type=mk&res=month&loc[]=0&wea[]=0&for[]=0&siz[]=0

Indeed it's becoming more and more peaceful day by day

iraqbodycount.org underestimates the number of dead. According to independent sources, more than 1 million civilians have been killed in the Iraq conflict so far. Bu according to the iraqbodycount.org, it is less than 100,000.

http://www.brussellstribunal.org/article_view.asp?id=803#.U5l6tvmSw_s

Read a few articles from that blog and you'll soon understand why they are over estimating and claiming others are underestimating the number of deaths.

It's another blog with biased information like info wars.
But of course , like an us hater , you should be comfortable with those.

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Quote from: niothor on June 10, 2014, 10:11:13 PM

Let me add the missing years:

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/components/multigraph/multigraph.php?w=606&h=216&style=db&sy=2009&ey=2014&type=mk&res=month&loc[]=0&wea[]=0&for[]=0&siz[]=0

Indeed it's becoming more and more peaceful day by day

iraqbodycount.org underestimates the number of dead. According to independent sources, more than 1 million civilians have been killed in the Iraq conflict so far. Bu according to the iraqbodycount.org, it is less than 100,000.

http://www.brussellstribunal.org/article_view.asp?id=803#.U5l6tvmSw_s

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 08, 2014, 11:22:46 AM

Quote from: JohnnyLightning on June 08, 2014, 10:48:27 AM

I knew Clark had to be nuts when Madonna endorsed him for president.

Is the POTUS post reserved only for war criminals? Wesley Clark was one of the masterminds behind the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia, where the American jets bombed Serbian orphanages, killing dozens of children. Another war criminal is confirmed as the Democrat candidate for the 2016 election. May be Wes could win the GOP nomination?

He was a committed neocon before it was cool.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 10, 2014, 10:01:20 PM

Situation has become a bit calm in Iraq, with the exception of a few regions.

And this is the real cost of the Iraqi invasion.

Let me add the missing years:

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/components/multigraph/multigraph.php?w=606&h=216&style=db&sy=2009&ey=2014&type=mk&res=month&loc[]=0&wea[]=0&for[]=0&siz[]=0

Indeed it's becoming more and more peaceful day by day

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Situation has become a bit calm in Iraq, with the exception of a few regions.

And this is the real cost of the Iraqi invasion.

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Quote from: RiverBoatBTC on June 07, 2014, 11:19:44 AM

You are wrong US had a complete pull out of Iraq....

And just look how peaceful Iraq has become after the mean us guys have left the country

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/6/10/iraq-mosul-isil.html

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Quote from: JohnnyLightning on June 08, 2014, 10:48:27 AM

I knew Clark had to be nuts when Madonna endorsed him for president.

Is the POTUS post reserved only for war criminals? Wesley Clark was one of the masterminds behind the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia, where the American jets bombed Serbian orphanages, killing dozens of children. Another war criminal is confirmed as the Democrat candidate for the 2016 election. May be Wes could win the GOP nomination?

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I knew Clark had to be nuts when Madonna endorsed him for president.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 08, 2014, 09:03:50 AM

Quote from: bitsmichel on June 08, 2014, 07:33:54 AM

Turkey has weapons of mass destruction tho Roll Eyes

Turkey is just a NATO nuclear weapons sharing state. That means that there are a number of nuclear weapons (around 70) located in its territory, but they are not under the control of the Turkish Armed Forces. Those weapons are located in the Incirlik Air Base, and under the control of the 39th Air Base Wing of the United States Air Force.

/sarcasm

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Quote from: bitsmichel on June 08, 2014, 07:33:54 AM

Turkey has weapons of mass destruction tho Roll Eyes

Turkey is just a NATO nuclear weapons sharing state. That means that there are a number of nuclear weapons (around 70) located in its territory, but they are not under the control of the Turkish Armed Forces. Those weapons are located in the Incirlik Air Base, and under the control of the 39th Air Base Wing of the United States Air Force.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 08, 2014, 07:25:11 AM

Quote from: Pepin on June 08, 2014, 06:35:31 AM

"Advanced ICBM's?" How about no ICBM's.

Sure about that?

http://iranprimer.usip.org/resource/irans-ballistic-missile-program

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The Islamic Republic is the only country to develop a 2,000-km missile without first having a nuclear weapons capability.

Maybe we need to define ICBM for you

An intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) is a ballistic missile with a minimum range of more than 5,500 kilometres (3,400 mi)[1] primarily designed for nuclear weapons delivery (delivering one or more nuclear warheads). Similarly conventional, chemical and biological weapons can also be delivered with varying effectiveness. Most modern designs support multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRVs), allowing a single missile to carry several warheads, each of which can strike a different target.

You are full of twisted fax.....................

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Quote from: bitsmichel on June 08, 2014, 06:41:49 AM

Quote from: Pepin on June 08, 2014, 06:35:31 AM

Didn't you guys watch the new Robocop movie? It shows how the US will pacify Iran with their army of robots.

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 07, 2014, 10:44:58 PM

The problem with Iran is that unlike Iraq, that nation possesses advanced ICBMs and other weapons. And with Armed Forces currently numbering in their millions, an invasion of Iran could become the costliest ever war waged by the Americans.

"Advanced ICBM's?" How about no ICBM's.

The problem for US citizens is not about ICBM's (whether they have them or not) but about the general attitude towards the US. The US gov. attitude is pretty much the same if you are in Iran. It kind of reminds me of the Iraq story "The nation possesses weapons of mass destruction and other weapons. And with Armed Forced currently numbering in their millions..."

A map of states with nuclear weapons https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Nuclear_weapons_states.svg/877px-Nuclear_weapons_states.svg.png Iran is not on the list. Turkey has weapons of mass destruction tho Roll Eyes

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