Are these 8 cards really major? Or is this just a biased review?
https://cointelegraph.com/news/8-major-bitcoin-debit-cards-how-private-and-anonymous-are-they
Topic: 2017 Bitcoin Debit Card Reviews - page 29. (Read 119022 times)
Not quoting the whole convo but I'll address your points written in red one by one:
#1 there's a stable deviation from average market rates of about 3%
#2 It's not stated that it's a buy price, it's only called a Live Rate[1] and the landing page advertised the card.
#3 Not optional SMS fee[1]
I didn't want to seem like I'm promoting another card on top of my critique, but I'll oblige since you insist. Uquid recently introduced a debit card. Their user accounts can be funded with BitPay so the sell rates are always guaranteed to be better that e-coin with no deviation from market rates that act as a hidden fee. You can read my review of the card if you want a more detailed explanation of why I believe that it's better.
#1 there's a stable deviation from average market rates of about 3%
#2 It's not stated that it's a buy price, it's only called a Live Rate[1] and the landing page advertised the card.
#3 Not optional SMS fee[1]
Finally and again could you tell us with few simple words if you know better service of this kind? Just Yes/No Who? Link?
I didn't want to seem like I'm promoting another card on top of my critique, but I'll oblige since you insist. Uquid recently introduced a debit card. Their user accounts can be funded with BitPay so the sell rates are always guaranteed to be better that e-coin with no deviation from market rates that act as a hidden fee. You can read my review of the card if you want a more detailed explanation of why I believe that it's better.
Thank you, this is quite enough i'll check it.
Let it me add some extra info to your lab
Uquid has some extra fees like:- Physical Card Issuance Fee (one-time cost) 15 EUR
- Monthly Service Fee 1 EUR
- Foreign Currency Conversion Fee 3%
- ATM Transaction (International) 2.75 EUR
- Deposit Fee Bank Transfer 1.5% ( It looks lower, but what would be the bank fees to transfer from Central, East or South Europe)?
For me e-coin is better because of the Fast Bank Transfers service, which means they have bank account in many countries I'm talking about more than 50+ countries => so I'm able to deposit directly in their bank for 0 fee or very low, also in the local currency. The conversation rates are good so especially when you pay less fees.
https://help.e-coin.io/hc/en-us/articles/207150559
https://help.e-coin.io/hc/en-us/articles/207035475-Bank-Transfer-Deposit-Fees
https://help.e-coin.io/hc/en-us/articles/206325189-Alternative-Payment-Methods-Fees?preview_as_role=manager&use_theme_settings=false
P.S.
In case I deposit € 5000 will be
e-coin fee: € 3 ------------------- 5000-3= 4997 EUR
uquid fee: 1.5% 0.015*5000= 75 EUR 5000-75=4925 EUR
4997-4925= 72 EUR
Just checked for 4997 EUR at e-coin could get 9.675548 btc ~516 EUR per btc (with the blockchain fee), at kraken now is 510 EUR
Now the bitpay shows 506 EUR per btc which is lower than kraken which means you'll get ~ 9.733201 € btc. its strange because bitpay has 1% fee for more than 30 transaction https://bitpay.com/pricing , so here there are hidden things. This is in case we don't calculate the bank fees to deposit.
e.x. To deposit 5000 EUR from Bulgaria(EU) to uquid I need to pay bank fee at least ~220 EUR
To deposit 5000 EUR from Bulgaria to e-coin via Fast Bank service cost 2.25 BGN (1.15 EUR)
aaand finally we have this:
e-coin: €3 + €1.15 + €0.5(blockchain fee) + €5000 = €5004.65 = 9.675548 btc ( ~ €517 per BTC)
uquid: €75 + €220 + €5000 = €5295 = 9.733201 btc (~ € 544 per BTC) this is without Foreign Currency Conversion fee 3% and in case we take the bitpay price as indicator for uquid.
just i'll get extra time i'll do a better research.Hi elmanager,
Firstly Many thank for do research about uquid.
Forgive me but i will do not make any comparison here with e-coin or any another company about price bitcoin or anything relative here.
I just want confirmed that UQUID already supported from beginning for "FAST BANK TRANSFER" with 70 countries in list now (only for verified Member ). That mean you do not have to pay local bank fees.
Bulgaria is one in this list and you no longer have to pay €220 fees.
Thanks you also respond, I'm glad to read you have this service, so count me in i'll register. Do you support custom name on the card and promo codes
? 
The fees you mentioned first are pretty standard among cards. However, Uquid's virtual card costs 1$ or even free with a current offer. So imo it's perfect for online purchases.
What I'll have to point out is that BitPay has better rates for BTC/USD and has always been significantly closer to the market rate than e-coin's. Hence, loading USD to Uquid's card will always be cheaper that it is with E-coin's one in spite of the 1% account load fee by BitPay and the 0.5% fee to load the card. You seem to be taking measures for a somewhat specific use-case, no objections though, I haven't checked about those extensively myself (perhaps I will check on the numbers you posted if I have the time). But as I said earlier, if you're satisfied with the services they offer, I'm glad.
Also note: I'm not representing Uquid when posting here. I'm only mentioning it after elmanager's request.
What I'll have to point out is that BitPay has better rates for BTC/USD and has always been significantly closer to the market rate than e-coin's. Hence, loading USD to Uquid's card will always be cheaper that it is with E-coin's one in spite of the 1% account load fee by BitPay and the 0.5% fee to load the card. You seem to be taking measures for a somewhat specific use-case, no objections though, I haven't checked about those extensively myself (perhaps I will check on the numbers you posted if I have the time). But as I said earlier, if you're satisfied with the services they offer, I'm glad.
Also note: I'm not representing Uquid when posting here. I'm only mentioning it after elmanager's request.
Not quoting the whole convo but I'll address your points written in red one by one:
#1 there's a stable deviation from average market rates of about 3%
#2 It's not stated that it's a buy price, it's only called a Live Rate[1] and the landing page advertised the card.
#3 Not optional SMS fee[1]
I didn't want to seem like I'm promoting another card on top of my critique, but I'll oblige since you insist. Uquid recently introduced a debit card. Their user accounts can be funded with BitPay so the sell rates are always guaranteed to be better that e-coin with no deviation from market rates that act as a hidden fee. You can read my review of the card if you want a more detailed explanation of why I believe that it's better.
#1 there's a stable deviation from average market rates of about 3%
#2 It's not stated that it's a buy price, it's only called a Live Rate[1] and the landing page advertised the card.
#3 Not optional SMS fee[1]
Finally and again could you tell us with few simple words if you know better service of this kind? Just Yes/No Who? Link?
I didn't want to seem like I'm promoting another card on top of my critique, but I'll oblige since you insist. Uquid recently introduced a debit card. Their user accounts can be funded with BitPay so the sell rates are always guaranteed to be better that e-coin with no deviation from market rates that act as a hidden fee. You can read my review of the card if you want a more detailed explanation of why I believe that it's better.
Thank you, this is quite enough i'll check it.
Let it me add some extra info to your lab
Uquid has some extra fees like:- Physical Card Issuance Fee (one-time cost) 15 EUR
- Monthly Service Fee 1 EUR
- Foreign Currency Conversion Fee 3%
- ATM Transaction (International) 2.75 EUR
- Deposit Fee Bank Transfer 1.5% ( It looks lower, but what would be the bank fees to transfer from Central, East or South Europe)?
For me e-coin is better because of the Fast Bank Transfers service, which means they have bank account in many countries I'm talking about more than 50+ countries => so I'm able to deposit directly in their bank for 0 fee or very low, also in the local currency. The conversation rates are good so especially when you pay less fees.
https://help.e-coin.io/hc/en-us/articles/207150559
https://help.e-coin.io/hc/en-us/articles/207035475-Bank-Transfer-Deposit-Fees
https://help.e-coin.io/hc/en-us/articles/206325189-Alternative-Payment-Methods-Fees?preview_as_role=manager&use_theme_settings=false
P.S.
In case I deposit € 5000 will be
e-coin fee: € 3 ------------------- 5000-3= 4997 EUR
uquid fee: 1.5% 0.015*5000= 75 EUR 5000-75=4925 EUR
4997-4925= 72 EUR
Just checked for 4997 EUR at e-coin could get 9.675548 btc ~516 EUR per btc (with the blockchain fee), at kraken now is 510 EUR
Now the bitpay shows 506 EUR per btc which is lower than kraken which means you'll get ~ 9.733201 € btc. its strange because bitpay has 1% fee for more than 30 transaction https://bitpay.com/pricing , so here there are hidden things. This is in case we don't calculate the bank fees to deposit.
e.x. To deposit 5000 EUR from Bulgaria(EU) to uquid I need to pay bank fee at least ~220 EUR
To deposit 5000 EUR from Bulgaria to e-coin via Fast Bank service cost 2.25 BGN (1.15 EUR)
aaand finally we have this:
e-coin: €3 + €1.15 + €0.5(blockchain fee) + €5000 = €5004.65 = 9.675548 btc ( ~ €517 per BTC)
uquid: €75 + €220 + €5000 = €5295 = 9.733201 btc (~ € 544 per BTC) this is without Foreign Currency Conversion fee 3% and in case we take the bitpay price as indicator for uquid.
just i'll get extra time i'll do a better research.Hi elmanager,
Firstly Many thank for do research about uquid.
Forgive me but i will do not make any comparison here with e-coin or any another company about price bitcoin or anything relative here.
I just want confirmed that UQUID already supported from beginning for "FAST BANK TRANSFER" with 70 countries in list now (only for verified Member ). That mean you do not have to pay local bank fees.
Bulgaria is one in this list and you no longer have to pay €220 fees.
Not quoting the whole convo but I'll address your points written in red one by one:
#1 there's a stable deviation from average market rates of about 3%
#2 It's not stated that it's a buy price, it's only called a Live Rate[1] and the landing page advertised the card.
#3 Not optional SMS fee[1]
I didn't want to seem like I'm promoting another card on top of my critique, but I'll oblige since you insist. Uquid recently introduced a debit card. Their user accounts can be funded with BitPay so the sell rates are always guaranteed to be better that e-coin with no deviation from market rates that act as a hidden fee. You can read my review of the card if you want a more detailed explanation of why I believe that it's better.
#1 there's a stable deviation from average market rates of about 3%
#2 It's not stated that it's a buy price, it's only called a Live Rate[1] and the landing page advertised the card.
#3 Not optional SMS fee[1]
Finally and again could you tell us with few simple words if you know better service of this kind? Just Yes/No Who? Link?
I didn't want to seem like I'm promoting another card on top of my critique, but I'll oblige since you insist. Uquid recently introduced a debit card. Their user accounts can be funded with BitPay so the sell rates are always guaranteed to be better that e-coin with no deviation from market rates that act as a hidden fee. You can read my review of the card if you want a more detailed explanation of why I believe that it's better.
Thank you, this is quite enough i'll check it.
Let it me add some extra info to your lab
Uquid has some extra fees like:- Physical Card Issuance Fee (one-time cost) 15 EUR
- Monthly Service Fee 1 EUR
- Foreign Currency Conversion Fee 3%
- ATM Transaction (International) 2.75 EUR
- Deposit Fee Bank Transfer 1.5% ( It looks lower, but what would be the bank fees to transfer from Central, East or South Europe)?
For me e-coin is better because of the Fast Bank Transfers service, which means they have bank account in many countries I'm talking about more than 50+ countries => so I'm able to deposit directly in their bank for 0 fee or very low, also in the local currency. The conversation rates are good so especially when you pay less fees.
https://help.e-coin.io/hc/en-us/articles/207150559
https://help.e-coin.io/hc/en-us/articles/207035475-Bank-Transfer-Deposit-Fees
https://help.e-coin.io/hc/en-us/articles/206325189-Alternative-Payment-Methods-Fees?preview_as_role=manager&use_theme_settings=false
P.S.
In case I deposit € 5000 will be
e-coin fee: € 3 ------------------- 5000-3= 4997 EUR
uquid fee: 1.5% 0.015*5000= 75 EUR 5000-75=4925 EUR
4997-4925= 72 EUR
Just checked for 4997 EUR at e-coin could get 9.675548 btc ~516 EUR per btc (with the blockchain fee), at kraken now is 510 EUR
Now the bitpay shows 506 EUR per btc which is lower than kraken which means you'll get ~ 9.733201 € btc. its strange because bitpay has 1% fee for more than 30 transaction https://bitpay.com/pricing , so here there are hidden things. This is in case we don't calculate the bank fees to deposit.
e.x. To deposit 5000 EUR from Bulgaria(EU) to uquid I need to pay bank fee at least ~220 EUR
To deposit 5000 EUR from Bulgaria to e-coin via Fast Bank service cost 2.25 BGN (1.15 EUR)
aaand finally we have this:
e-coin: €3 + €1.15 + €0.5(blockchain fee) + €5000 = €5004.65 = 9.675548 btc ( ~ €517 per BTC)
uquid: €75 + €220 + €5000 = €5295 = 9.733201 btc (~ € 544 per BTC) this is without Foreign Currency Conversion fee 3% and in case we take the bitpay price as indicator for uquid.
just i'll get extra time i'll do a better research.Not quoting the whole convo but I'll address your points written in red one by one:
#1 there's a stable deviation from average market rates of about 3%
#2 It's not stated that it's a buy price, it's only called a Live Rate[1] and the landing page advertised the card.
#3 Not optional SMS fee[1]
I didn't want to seem like I'm promoting another card on top of my critique, but I'll oblige since you insist. Uquid recently introduced a debit card. Their user accounts can be funded with BitPay so the sell rates are always guaranteed to be better that e-coin with no deviation from market rates that act as a hidden fee. You can read my review of the card if you want a more detailed explanation of why I believe that it's better.
#1 there's a stable deviation from average market rates of about 3%
#2 It's not stated that it's a buy price, it's only called a Live Rate[1] and the landing page advertised the card.
#3 Not optional SMS fee[1]
Finally and again could you tell us with few simple words if you know better service of this kind? Just Yes/No Who? Link?
I didn't want to seem like I'm promoting another card on top of my critique, but I'll oblige since you insist. Uquid recently introduced a debit card. Their user accounts can be funded with BitPay so the sell rates are always guaranteed to be better that e-coin with no deviation from market rates that act as a hidden fee. You can read my review of the card if you want a more detailed explanation of why I believe that it's better.
Thank you, this is quite enough i'll check it.
Not quoting the whole convo but I'll address your points written in red one by one:
#1 there's a stable deviation from average market rates of about 3%
#2 It's not stated that it's a buy price, it's only called a Live Rate[1] and the landing page advertised the card.
#3 Not optional SMS fee[1]
I didn't want to seem like I'm promoting another card on top of my critique, but I'll oblige since you insist. Uquid recently introduced a debit card. Their user accounts can be funded with BitPay so the sell rates are always guaranteed to be better that e-coin with no deviation from market rates that act as a hidden fee. You can read my review of the card if you want a more detailed explanation of why I believe that it's better.
#1 there's a stable deviation from average market rates of about 3%
#2 It's not stated that it's a buy price, it's only called a Live Rate[1] and the landing page advertised the card.
#3 Not optional SMS fee[1]
Finally and again could you tell us with few simple words if you know better service of this kind? Just Yes/No Who? Link?
I didn't want to seem like I'm promoting another card on top of my critique, but I'll oblige since you insist. Uquid recently introduced a debit card. Their user accounts can be funded with BitPay so the sell rates are always guaranteed to be better that e-coin with no deviation from market rates that act as a hidden fee. You can read my review of the card if you want a more detailed explanation of why I believe that it's better.
payeer.com also supports bitcoin debit card and I have it, it really sucks! Free card from payeer.com but after activating it took me 29.99 usd annual tax and some 9.99 usd for something else and the rates are killers in negative way.It needs 6 confirmation to convert directly your btc in usd on dumped rates, than It takes another tax around 3 usd to transfer into the card and for withdraw another killer tax, so be aware from payeer.com btc debit card.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
What price percentage less than Coinbase or Bitstamp does E-coin use for loading ?
And they're really unprofessional about it too! https://twitter.com/wirexapp/status/650758680753905664
Also the rate on their landing page is false.
So non-professional googled, have you ever bought bitcoins from e-coin? Every user who done it could notice that you didn't because the landing page price is for buying not for selling.
I read your linked post and again too much words without any useful details that could really inform, only some kind of hysterical view(It's not bad for prose and poems). If you represent some other company with the same service just spread it around and tell us why is better!
- E-coin has hidden fees in their exchange rate
- False advertising from their rate in their landing page as it's not related with their main product
- And lastly, their no fees marketing gimmick is a lie as they have a mandatory monthly fee
If you're satisfied with the services they offer, I'm glad. But since you asked, I have a thread with a list of bitcoin debit cards. Feel free to check it out for alternatives. And to address your last point: No, I do not represent any company when posting here. I'm just trying to point out the fault of what is the most praised bitcoin debit card service, criticism might lead to improvement so try not to be negative if what you are is just a customer.
- E-coin has hidden fees in their exchange rate
- False advertising from their rate in their landing page as it's not related with their main product
- And lastly, their no fees marketing gimmick is a lie as they have a mandatory monthly fee
Finally and again could you tell us with few simple words if you know better service of this kind? Just Yes/No Who? Link?
Quote
I'm just trying to point out the fault of what is the most praised bitcoin debit card service
[/list] payeer.com also supports bitcoin debit card and I have it, it really sucks! Free card from payeer.com but after activating it took me 29.99 usd annual tax and some 9.99 usd for something else and the rates are killers in negative way.It needs 6 confirmation to convert directly your btc in usd on dumped rates, than It takes another tax around 3 usd to transfer into the card and for withdraw another killer tax, so be aware from payeer.com btc debit card.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
What price percentage less than Coinbase or Bitstamp does E-coin use for loading ?
And they're really unprofessional about it too! https://twitter.com/wirexapp/status/650758680753905664
Also the rate on their landing page is false.
So non-professional googled, have you ever bought bitcoins from e-coin? Every user who done it could notice that you didn't because the landing page price is for buying not for selling.
I read your linked post and again too much words without any useful details that could really inform, only some kind of hysterical view(It's not bad for prose and poems). If you represent some other company with the same service just spread it around and tell us why is better!
- E-coin has hidden fees in their exchange rate
- False advertising from their rate in their landing page as it's not related with their main product
- And lastly, their no fees marketing gimmick is a lie as they have a mandatory monthly fee
If you're satisfied with the services they offer, I'm glad. But since you asked, I have a thread with a list of bitcoin debit cards. Feel free to check it out for alternatives. And to address your last point: No, I do not represent any company when posting here. I'm just trying to point out the fault of what is the most praised bitcoin debit card service, criticism might lead to improvement so try not to be negative if what you are is just a customer.
payeer.com also supports bitcoin debit card and I have it, it really sucks! Free card from payeer.com but after activating it took me 29.99 usd annual tax and some 9.99 usd for something else and the rates are killers in negative way.It needs 6 confirmation to convert directly your btc in usd on dumped rates, than It takes another tax around 3 usd to transfer into the card and for withdraw another killer tax, so be aware from payeer.com btc debit card.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
What price percentage less than Coinbase or Bitstamp does E-coin use for loading ?
And they're really unprofessional about it too! https://twitter.com/wirexapp/status/650758680753905664
Also the rate on their landing page is false.
So non-professional googled, have you ever bought bitcoins from e-coin? Every user who done it could notice that you didn't because the landing page price is for buying not for selling.
I read your linked post and again too much words without any useful details that could really inform, only some kind of hysterical view(It's not bad for prose and poems). If you represent some other company with the same service just spread it around and tell us why is better!
payeer.com also supports bitcoin debit card and I have it, it really sucks! Free card from payeer.com but after activating it took me 29.99 usd annual tax and some 9.99 usd for something else and the rates are killers in negative way.It needs 6 confirmation to convert directly your btc in usd on dumped rates, than It takes another tax around 3 usd to transfer into the card and for withdraw another killer tax, so be aware from payeer.com btc debit card.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
What price percentage less than Coinbase or Bitstamp does E-coin use for loading ?
And they're really unprofessional about it too! https://twitter.com/wirexapp/status/650758680753905664
Also the rate on their landing page is false.
Do you by chance work for Coinsbank?
No, just wearing their sig. TBH there are cards I like more than Coinsbank's card too if that's why you're sking.
payeer.com also supports bitcoin debit card and I have it, it really sucks! Free card from payeer.com but after activating it took me 29.99 usd annual tax and some 9.99 usd for something else and the rates are killers in negative way.It needs 6 confirmation to convert directly your btc in usd on dumped rates, than It takes another tax around 3 usd to transfer into the card and for withdraw another killer tax, so be aware from payeer.com btc debit card.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
What price percentage less than Coinbase or Bitstamp does E-coin use for loading ?
To load bitcoins you don't pay anything, to transfer btc to your wallet you pay only the blockchain tax, in time of writing this the sell price is 497 eur, for buy 520 eur in kraken now is 516 eur. After you load your card with fiat there is 3% on transaction and per 2+ eur if you withdraw on ATM. I don't know neither Coinbase neither Bitstamp to take anything for loading.
This is all good feedback. I am thinking of making a new infographic with updated info.
payeer.com also supports bitcoin debit card and I have it, it really sucks! Free card from payeer.com but after activating it took me 29.99 usd annual tax and some 9.99 usd for something else and the rates are killers in negative way.It needs 6 confirmation to convert directly your btc in usd on dumped rates, than It takes another tax around 3 usd to transfer into the card and for withdraw another killer tax, so be aware from payeer.com btc debit card.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
What price percentage less than Coinbase or Bitstamp does E-coin use for loading ?
And they're really unprofessional about it too! https://twitter.com/wirexapp/status/650758680753905664
Also the rate on their landing page is false.
Do you by chance work for Coinsbank?
payeer.com also supports bitcoin debit card and I have it, it really sucks! Free card from payeer.com but after activating it took me 29.99 usd annual tax and some 9.99 usd for something else and the rates are killers in negative way.It needs 6 confirmation to convert directly your btc in usd on dumped rates, than It takes another tax around 3 usd to transfer into the card and for withdraw another killer tax, so be aware from payeer.com btc debit card.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
What price percentage less than Coinbase or Bitstamp does E-coin use for loading ?
And they're really unprofessional about it too! https://twitter.com/wirexapp/status/650758680753905664
Also the rate on their landing page is false.
payeer.com also supports bitcoin debit card and I have it, it really sucks! Free card from payeer.com but after activating it took me 29.99 usd annual tax and some 9.99 usd for something else and the rates are killers in negative way.It needs 6 confirmation to convert directly your btc in usd on dumped rates, than It takes another tax around 3 usd to transfer into the card and for withdraw another killer tax, so be aware from payeer.com btc debit card.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
What price percentage less than Coinbase or Bitstamp does E-coin use for loading ?
To load bitcoins you don't pay anything, to transfer btc to your wallet you pay only the blockchain tax, in time of writing this the sell price is 497 eur, for buy 520 eur in kraken now is 516 eur. After you load your card with fiat there is 3% on transaction and per 2+ eur if you withdraw on ATM. I don't know neither Coinbase neither Bitstamp to take anything for loading.
payeer.com also supports bitcoin debit card and I have it, it really sucks! Free card from payeer.com but after activating it took me 29.99 usd annual tax and some 9.99 usd for something else and the rates are killers in negative way.It needs 6 confirmation to convert directly your btc in usd on dumped rates, than It takes another tax around 3 usd to transfer into the card and for withdraw another killer tax, so be aware from payeer.com btc debit card.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
What price percentage less than Coinbase or Bitstamp does E-coin use for loading ?
payeer.com also supports bitcoin debit card and I have it, it really sucks! Free card from payeer.com but after activating it took me 29.99 usd annual tax and some 9.99 usd for something else and the rates are killers in negative way.It needs 6 confirmation to convert directly your btc in usd on dumped rates, than It takes another tax around 3 usd to transfer into the card and for withdraw another killer tax, so be aware from payeer.com btc debit card.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
Holy crap now thats a lot of fees ontop of fees. I mean shit it appears there charging you a fee just to charge you a fee. crazyness. Def will stay away from payeer.com . Thats like $40 just to get to use the card not to mention conversion/atm/debit/credit/international fees. Glad you posted about them. Sorry you had to find out the hard way but at least you will be saving someone else from making the same mistake if they read your post first. Thanks.
payeer.com also supports bitcoin debit card and I have it, it really sucks! Free card from payeer.com but after activating it took me 29.99 usd annual tax and some 9.99 usd for something else and the rates are killers in negative way.It needs 6 confirmation to convert directly your btc in usd on dumped rates, than It takes another tax around 3 usd to transfer into the card and for withdraw another killer tax, so be aware from payeer.com btc debit card.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
I'm using daily wirex a.k.a e-coin, It takes 1 confirmation for deposit and the conversation becomes very fast, for the last 3 months no delays or technical issues known to me or affected me.
I have been using Spectrocoin awhile now, everything good. However their exchange rate seems to be about 2.5 % lower than market price. Gets to be a lot of money if one loads a couple BTC. Can anyone else comment on the exchange rate they get with their cards. I would be especially interested in comments from users of Ecoin / Wirex and WageCan.
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To update review SpectroCoin card supports buy and sell functions as well as has a mobile app for Android, iOS and Windows Phone.
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