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Former Sixth man of the year Montrezl Harrell signed with the Philadelphia 76ers for 2 years. I'm liking Philly even more with this new acquisition. If James Harden returns this season fit and brings back his good old years then this team is serious to reach the top. It can compete against the Celtics and the Bucks in the eastern conference. I expect Miami Heat to slow down this season after losing Tucker and not acquiring anything material in return. Miami will have a hard time repeating as the number 1 winningest team in the east with its rival teams taking some big moves with their line-ups.

There's a chance actually and that's if Victor Oladipo can get back his former game. Then, Duncan Robinson the glass cannon, making him tougher should be one of their focus. Those are their weaknesses, for now, they lack backup players that would substitute for Butler and Bam Adebayo if they need a breather.
IMO, Miami Heat is still a strong team with Bam dominating the painted area and refining his shooting skills. That pair must not be underestimated yet and they have young players who are playing better and it showed last season.

The lineup is good but it's not enough to win a championship, look how they struggled against a young Celtics. I think Butler is not a superstar that has a championship caliber, well, there's still one season for him to prove the doubters wrong, so they need to win the championship as this could be their last chance.

Well, that's too far from happening because they have not improve their lineup. I don't know but that's what I am seeing the next season, I think it will still be the Warriors or the Lakers (if they'll improved), and it will be the Celtics or the Bucks that's gonna make it to the NBA Finals.

Hard to determine whether who's team will go on finals because many teams upgrade their roosters. We see how Sixers improve their rooster this season so I think they are also a team to be consider unto the finals and there are other more strong teams which for sure surprise us this season that will reach far like what Suns did.

No matter how they'll improve their roster but they don't have the system to win the championship, that's still not gonna work. Warriors had a good system, they also have a big 3 who are experienced enough in the NBA finals and have won a multiple championships together, so I would trust the Warriors here as they will likely win a back to back championship, well, I could be wrong though.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 07, 2022, 02:30:28 PM

Anyone who has seen the interview with Patrick Beverley? The reporter asks what are his thoughts about playing with Lebron and Davis.

And you'll find it funny with what he has answered. He said, "They're playing with me." Cheesy

--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veFBxgrwN6I

That's the video from NBA on ESPN channel on YouTube. I'm not affiliated with them, it has 1M+ subs.

We gotta need to get used to how he respond to every interview he'll have. He always act and speak that way. I'm not sure if that what keeps him relevant as he seriously takes this role in getting in everybody's skin and I'm not sure why he's doing it with his teammate as well lol.
But they're professional anyway, that's the reason why we saw that picture of him and Westbrook laughing at each other. I know the beef they had before is not gonna be a huge distraction between these two.
The only thing the Lakers need to do this coming season, is to how they're going to run this roster effectively. Another factor is how AD would keep himself healthy the whole season including the playoffs if they get there.

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Former Sixth man of the year Montrezl Harrell signed with the Philadelphia 76ers for 2 years. I'm liking Philly even more with this new acquisition. If James Harden returns this season fit and brings back his good old years then this team is serious to reach the top. It can compete against the Celtics and the Bucks in the eastern conference. I expect Miami Heat to slow down this season after losing Tucker and not acquiring anything material in return. Miami will have a hard time repeating as the number 1 winningest team in the east with its rival teams taking some big moves with their line-ups.

There's a chance actually and that's if Victor Oladipo can get back his former game. Then, Duncan Robinson the glass cannon, making him tougher should be one of their focus. Those are their weaknesses, for now, they lack backup players that would substitute for Butler and Bam Adebayo if they need a breather.
IMO, Miami Heat is still a strong team with Bam dominating the painted area and refining his shooting skills. That pair must not be underestimated yet and they have young players who are playing better and it showed last season.

The lineup is good but it's not enough to win a championship, look how they struggled against a young Celtics. I think Butler is not a superstar that has a championship caliber, well, there's still one season for him to prove the doubters wrong, so they need to win the championship as this could be their last chance.

Well, that's too far from happening because they have not improve their lineup. I don't know but that's what I am seeing the next season, I think it will still be the Warriors or the Lakers (if they'll improved), and it will be the Celtics or the Bucks that's gonna make it to the NBA Finals.

Hard to determine whether who's team will go on finals because many teams upgrade their roosters. We see how Sixers improve their rooster this season so I think they are also a team to be consider unto the finals and there are other more strong teams which for sure surprise us this season that will reach far like what Suns did.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 07, 2022, 05:13:30 PM

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Sometimes these signings look unsuspecting in September but come the season it ends up being the piece they needed all along. Sixers aren't too far off.

I agree. I actually thought of Howard's signing with the Lakers when they won the league as a reference. They're not the what we call as "impact players" but their contributions can still turn the tide on important or crucial games.

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Former Sixth man of the year Montrezl Harrell signed with the Philadelphia 76ers for 2 years. I'm liking Philly even more with this new acquisition. If James Harden returns this season fit and brings back his good old years then this team is serious to reach the top. It can compete against the Celtics and the Bucks in the eastern conference. I expect Miami Heat to slow down this season after losing Tucker and not acquiring anything material in return. Miami will have a hard time repeating as the number 1 winningest team in the east with its rival teams taking some big moves with their line-ups.

There's a chance actually and that's if Victor Oladipo can get back his former game. Then, Duncan Robinson the glass cannon, making him tougher should be one of their focus. Those are their weaknesses, for now, they lack backup players that would substitute for Butler and Bam Adebayo if they need a breather.
IMO, Miami Heat is still a strong team with Bam dominating the painted area and refining his shooting skills. That pair must not be underestimated yet and they have young players who are playing better and it showed last season.

The lineup is good but it's not enough to win a championship, look how they struggled against a young Celtics. I think Butler is not a superstar that has a championship caliber, well, there's still one season for him to prove the doubters wrong, so they need to win the championship as this could be their last chance.

Well, that's too far from happening because they have not improve their lineup. I don't know but that's what I am seeing the next season, I think it will still be the Warriors or the Lakers (if they'll improved), and it will be the Celtics or the Bucks that's gonna make it to the NBA Finals.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on September 07, 2022, 11:13:33 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on September 07, 2022, 10:23:08 AM

Former Sixth man of the year Montrezl Harrell signed with the Philadelphia 76ers for 2 years. I'm liking Philly even more with this new acquisition. If James Harden returns this season fit and brings back his good old years then this team is serious to reach the top. It can compete against the Celtics and the Bucks in the eastern conference. I expect Miami Heat to slow down this season after losing Tucker and not acquiring anything material in return. Miami will have a hard time repeating as the number 1 winningest team in the east with its rival teams taking some big moves with their line-ups.

There's a chance actually and that's if Victor Oladipo can get back his former game. Then, Duncan Robinson the glass cannon, making him tougher should be one of their focus. Those are their weaknesses, for now, they lack backup players that would substitute for Butler and Bam Adebayo if they need a breather.
IMO, Miami Heat is still a strong team with Bam dominating the painted area and refining his shooting skills. That pair must not be underestimated yet and they have young players who are playing better and it showed last season.

The lineup is good but it's not enough to win a championship, look how they struggled against a young Celtics. I think Butler is not a superstar that has a championship caliber, well, there's still one season for him to prove the doubters wrong, so they need to win the championship as this could be their last chance.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on September 07, 2022, 10:23:08 AM

Former Sixth man of the year Montrezl Harrell signed with the Philadelphia 76ers for 2 years. I'm liking Philly even more with this new acquisition. If James Harden returns this season fit and brings back his good old years then this team is serious to reach the top. It can compete against the Celtics and the Bucks in the eastern conference. I expect Miami Heat to slow down this season after losing Tucker and not acquiring anything material in return. Miami will have a hard time repeating as the number 1 winningest team in the east with its rival teams taking some big moves with their line-ups.

There's a chance actually and that's if Victor Oladipo can get back his former game. Then, Duncan Robinson the glass cannon, making him tougher should be one of their focus. Those are their weaknesses, for now, they lack backup players that would substitute for Butler and Bam Adebayo if they need a breather.
IMO, Miami Heat is still a strong team with Bam dominating the painted area and refining his shooting skills. That pair must not be underestimated yet and they have young players who are playing better and it showed last season.

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Anyone who has seen the interview with Patrick Beverley? The reporter asks what are his thoughts about playing with Lebron and Davis.

And you'll find it funny with what he has answered. He said, "They're playing with me." Cheesy

--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veFBxgrwN6I

He is right though when he said he went to playoffs last season and Lebron and Davis did not. But he was just probably teasing his teammates. that is pat bev for you, he will toast even his own team mates. It will be exciting how they will play together and watch if they will ever get chemistry going.

All for engaging fans and viewers, though he's telling the truth, right? and we are talking here with Pat a trash-talk natural person.

I really wanted to see him playing alongside with LeBron and Davis, his defensive IQ can boost the entire team, just like having Green and Smart.

He might be smaller, but he can take the contact and really give you tough night each time you play against him.

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I’m not sure I like the Hornets signing Montrez Harrell. I feel like he got his bag when he left the Clippers and hasn’t been the same since. I don’t suspect any team that signs him is going to get their money’s worth. I don’t think he’s a good pairing with their young run and gun squad either. I guess we’ll see how it goes, but I feel like it won’t go well.

Signing with the Hornets or the Sixers? It's the latter that I'm reading.

It's $5.2 Million for two years with a player option for a 28-year-old center. I don't think that's a bad deal for any team since he can still be useful in player rotations. The Sixers probably thinks he could give Embiid more minutes to rest while he's on the floor. Maybe they're hoping a double-double or close to it for 20 minutes?

It was in the Sixers where he signed and maybe there is a bit of mistake with that post.
https://www.nba.com/news/montrezl-harrell-signs-philadelphia-sixers

After giving Drummond to the Nets in the Harden-Simmons trade, the Sixers really lacked a big at that time and it was Embiid who was their reliable big. Now they are starting to acquire bigs like DeAndre Jordan and now they also got Harrell who isn't tall for a big TBH but a good defender and a former 6th man of the year when he was in Clippers. His stint with the Lakers was the reason why his efficiency went down drastically but I think he can still contribute more to the team knowing how he played when he was in the Clippers. It's a good sign to the Sixers as Embiid will play less minutes.

I think this is a solid signing for the sixers. Will give them an extra added toughness down low, and a real good veteran at a good price. Sometimes these signings look unsuspecting in September but come the season it ends up being the piece they needed all along. Sixers aren't too far off.

Of course, any team that he can go he will add toughness inside, but then again, he is undersized for a center so not sure if he will also be a good fit.

But if the price is good then why not? Specially if Joel gets injured early, as least they have someone to cover him in that position even if he is not that tall to bang with the true centers in the league.

He doesn't need to play center, embid will play the 5 for 35 minutes a game. He might spell him there for a couple of minutes but montrell can play some tough pf minutes depending on the team and matchup. Every team needs little toughness and he brings it. Coue rebounds, some say vet plays, couple offensive rebounds and then ride the bench the rest of the game. That's what you need out of a guy making 2-3mil on the team.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 07, 2022, 03:12:45 PM

Quote from: boyptc on September 07, 2022, 02:30:28 PM

Anyone who has seen the interview with Patrick Beverley? The reporter asks what are his thoughts about playing with Lebron and Davis.

And you'll find it funny with what he has answered. He said, "They're playing with me." Cheesy

--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veFBxgrwN6I

That's the video from NBA on ESPN channel on YouTube. I'm not affiliated with them, it has 1M+ subs.

Typical delusional Pat Bev stuff… I really hope he isn’t a starter for them this year.

An article also came out today talking about how Utah sent Donovan Mitchell to Cleveland as payback for him poisoning the team chemistry after Rudy Gobert gave everyone covid. Not a good look for Utah or Mitchell really.

Delusional indeed. Whoever watched that interview would think the same as well Cheesy

. At least I laughed a bit with what he said.
He will not be a starter but if his performance will improve, they might put him in the Small Forward position or at least in the Shooting Guard.

He is bragging that they went to the playoffs last year and the Lakers wasn't where in fact, the Lakers won a title 2 years ago and he didn't. Typical Patrick Beverley indeed but he makes me, and other fans and analysts laugh. I'm excited with the Russ-Pat combo Cheesy

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Quote from: boyptc on September 07, 2022, 02:30:28 PM

Anyone who has seen the interview with Patrick Beverley? The reporter asks what are his thoughts about playing with Lebron and Davis.

And you'll find it funny with what he has answered. He said, "They're playing with me." Cheesy

--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veFBxgrwN6I

He is right though when he said he went to playoffs last season and Lebron and Davis did not. But he was just probably teasing his teammates. that is pat bev for you, he will toast even his own team mates. It will be exciting how they will play together and watch if they will ever get chemistry going.

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I’m not sure I like the Hornets signing Montrez Harrell. I feel like he got his bag when he left the Clippers and hasn’t been the same since. I don’t suspect any team that signs him is going to get their money’s worth. I don’t think he’s a good pairing with their young run and gun squad either. I guess we’ll see how it goes, but I feel like it won’t go well.

Signing with the Hornets or the Sixers? It's the latter that I'm reading.

It's $5.2 Million for two years with a player option for a 28-year-old center. I don't think that's a bad deal for any team since he can still be useful in player rotations. The Sixers probably thinks he could give Embiid more minutes to rest while he's on the floor. Maybe they're hoping a double-double or close to it for 20 minutes?

It was in the Sixers where he signed and maybe there is a bit of mistake with that post.
https://www.nba.com/news/montrezl-harrell-signs-philadelphia-sixers

After giving Drummond to the Nets in the Harden-Simmons trade, the Sixers really lacked a big at that time and it was Embiid who was their reliable big. Now they are starting to acquire bigs like DeAndre Jordan and now they also got Harrell who isn't tall for a big TBH but a good defender and a former 6th man of the year when he was in Clippers. His stint with the Lakers was the reason why his efficiency went down drastically but I think he can still contribute more to the team knowing how he played when he was in the Clippers. It's a good sign to the Sixers as Embiid will play less minutes.

I think this is a solid signing for the sixers. Will give them an extra added toughness down low, and a real good veteran at a good price. Sometimes these signings look unsuspecting in September but come the season it ends up being the piece they needed all along. Sixers aren't too far off.

Of course, any team that he can go he will add toughness inside, but then again, he is undersized for a center so not sure if he will also be a good fit.

But if the price is good then why not? Specially if Joel gets injured early, as least they have someone to cover him in that position even if he is not that tall to bang with the true centers in the league.

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I’m not sure I like the Hornets signing Montrez Harrell. I feel like he got his bag when he left the Clippers and hasn’t been the same since. I don’t suspect any team that signs him is going to get their money’s worth. I don’t think he’s a good pairing with their young run and gun squad either. I guess we’ll see how it goes, but I feel like it won’t go well.

Signing with the Hornets or the Sixers? It's the latter that I'm reading.

It's $5.2 Million for two years with a player option for a 28-year-old center. I don't think that's a bad deal for any team since he can still be useful in player rotations. The Sixers probably thinks he could give Embiid more minutes to rest while he's on the floor. Maybe they're hoping a double-double or close to it for 20 minutes?

It was in the Sixers where he signed and maybe there is a bit of mistake with that post.
https://www.nba.com/news/montrezl-harrell-signs-philadelphia-sixers

After giving Drummond to the Nets in the Harden-Simmons trade, the Sixers really lacked a big at that time and it was Embiid who was their reliable big. Now they are starting to acquire bigs like DeAndre Jordan and now they also got Harrell who isn't tall for a big TBH but a good defender and a former 6th man of the year when he was in Clippers. His stint with the Lakers was the reason why his efficiency went down drastically but I think he can still contribute more to the team knowing how he played when he was in the Clippers. It's a good sign to the Sixers as Embiid will play less minutes.

I think this is a solid signing for the sixers. Will give them an extra added toughness down low, and a real good veteran at a good price. Sometimes these signings look unsuspecting in September but come the season it ends up being the piece they needed all along. Sixers aren't too far off.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 07, 2022, 02:30:28 PM

Anyone who has seen the interview with Patrick Beverley? The reporter asks what are his thoughts about playing with Lebron and Davis.

And you'll find it funny with what he has answered. He said, "They're playing with me." Cheesy

--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veFBxgrwN6I

That's the video from NBA on ESPN channel on YouTube. I'm not affiliated with them, it has 1M+ subs.

Typical delusional Pat Bev stuff… I really hope he isn’t a starter for them this year.

An article also came out today talking about how Utah sent Donovan Mitchell to Cleveland as payback for him poisoning the team chemistry after Rudy Gobert gave everyone covid. Not a good look for Utah or Mitchell really.

I don't think he will be a starter in Lakers, for sure he will have to come from the bench and do his thing, with his defense. And probably he said it as somewhat like a joke so we shoudn't take it seriously.

As for the Mitchell and Gobert, it's weird though if that is the real reason for sending both of them out of Utah. But it's obvious that they have a problem in the playoff and it seems they always choke.

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His team, OKC already applied for Disabled player exception ~ Thunder reportedly apply for $4.95 million disabled player exception for Holmgren injury

It's only happening to players who are not popular, I don't hear this kind of report on star players like Durant, Kawhi, and Paul George when they were injured. Well, the team could save that amount if it will be approve, still a good amount of money.

Yeah, I don't also hear it usually from star players that have injuries. But I think this is a different case since OKC have Chet already signed and paid him with his first contract as their pick.

Still, a lot of money for an individual who cannot play for the entire season. And it's good that there are these types of exceptions for them to have that possible monetary loss to recover.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 07, 2022, 02:30:28 PM

Anyone who has seen the interview with Patrick Beverley? The reporter asks what are his thoughts about playing with Lebron and Davis.

And you'll find it funny with what he has answered. He said, "They're playing with me." Cheesy

--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veFBxgrwN6I

That's the video from NBA on ESPN channel on YouTube. I'm not affiliated with them, it has 1M+ subs.

Typical delusional Pat Bev stuff… I really hope he isn’t a starter for them this year.

An article also came out today talking about how Utah sent Donovan Mitchell to Cleveland as payback for him poisoning the team chemistry after Rudy Gobert gave everyone covid. Not a good look for Utah or Mitchell really.

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No doubt offensive production, but Melo also needs to adjust to his defense, younger star might expose him and take that advantage, giving him a tough game, treating him as the weak side to make or create a play on his side.
kind of coach doesn't want to see having someone inside as a liability.

Seems not appropriate for me to expect Carmelo Anthony to adjust his defense at the current point of his career. He is almost on the retirement period. Why expect him to adjust on his weak side wherein the best thing he can do is to take advantage of what he's capable to do. The roster can be balance with both offense and defense. No need that all players are good in defense especially if Melo is on the lineup.

If struggling, then sit him out. He is currently averaging less playing time now compare to his usual. No need to give him 30MPG or something.

Yeah there’s no chance at this point in time in his career that his defense is not going to get any better. I’m honestly surprised that he’s even still in the league. I’m not sure there’s any players that have completely adjust their level of defense at that later point in time in their career. Would like to hear if there’s any examples of it, which if there are then I’m sure it’s few and far between.

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Anyone who has seen the interview with Patrick Beverley? The reporter asks what are his thoughts about playing with Lebron and Davis.

And you'll find it funny with what he has answered. He said, "They're playing with me." Cheesy

--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veFBxgrwN6I

That's the video from NBA on ESPN channel on YouTube. I'm not affiliated with them, it has 1M+ subs.

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I’m not sure I like the Hornets signing Montrez Harrell. I feel like he got his bag when he left the Clippers and hasn’t been the same since. I don’t suspect any team that signs him is going to get their money’s worth. I don’t think he’s a good pairing with their young run and gun squad either. I guess we’ll see how it goes, but I feel like it won’t go well.

Signing with the Hornets or the Sixers? It's the latter that I'm reading.

It's $5.2 Million for two years with a player option for a 28-year-old center. I don't think that's a bad deal for any team since he can still be useful in player rotations. The Sixers probably thinks he could give Embiid more minutes to rest while he's on the floor. Maybe they're hoping a double-double or close to it for 20 minutes?

It was in the Sixers where he signed and maybe there is a bit of mistake with that post.
https://www.nba.com/news/montrezl-harrell-signs-philadelphia-sixers

After giving Drummond to the Nets in the Harden-Simmons trade, the Sixers really lacked a big at that time and it was Embiid who was their reliable big. Now they are starting to acquire bigs like DeAndre Jordan and now they also got Harrell who isn't tall for a big TBH but a good defender and a former 6th man of the year when he was in Clippers. His stint with the Lakers was the reason why his efficiency went down drastically but I think he can still contribute more to the team knowing how he played when he was in the Clippers. It's a good sign to the Sixers as Embiid will play less minutes.

I think his game drastically went down when he transfer to the Lakers, he still contribute but not as what we expected from him. Anyhow, it's good that he still find a team this season and yeah, the Sixers needs someone to compliment Joel in the middle so Trez could be a good fit for them. He can still defend and even score inside, give them good offensive and defensive rebounds too.

Maybe because he is not given the correct timing of exposure he needs to provide a good production for the team and Vogel that time was quite having a hard time figuring out who will be playing because the roster is quite stacked and that was the same downside of it.

Also, the Lakers made some mistakes along the way because they freed some more useful players that time just to get Westbrook which eventually became a huge liability for the team. Along with that mistake is letting Alex Caruso go after proving the team that he is one of the important key why the Lakers became a champion last 2020.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 07, 2022, 08:21:57 AM

But what we are commenting is that at 7'0, he should have some muscles overall, from his legs to his upper body and balance everything. He can't be compare to Taco Fall or Bol Bol, yes they are very tall but I haven't heard any hype on them when they enter except their height. But Chet is different, he has the body of a Durant and plays the same position.

You're right about that. I was surprised to know that Chet Holmgren is only 195 pounds. Obviously, that weight is too low for a 7-foot guy, and it's one of the main reasons why this kid is prone to injuries. So I also think that Chet should work hard in the gym to gain at least 40 pounds of muscle mass and improve his stretching. Let's hope Holmgren's future career in the NBA won't be like Greg Oden's.

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