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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 07, 2022, 08:21:57 AM

But what we are commenting is that at 7'0, he should have some muscles overall, from his legs to his upper body and balance everything. He can't be compare to Taco Fall or Bol Bol, yes they are very tall but I haven't heard any hype on them when they enter except their height. But Chet is different, he has the body of a Durant and plays the same position.

You're right about that. I was surprised to know that Chet Holmgren is only 195 pounds. Obviously, that weight is too low for a 7-foot guy, and it's one of the main reasons why this kid is prone to injuries. So I also think that Chet should work hard in the gym to gain at least 40 pounds of muscle mass and improve his stretching. Let's hope Holmgren's future career in the NBA won't be like Greg Oden's.

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Some unfortunate news for the Chicago Bulls.

“Chicago Bulls guard Lonzo Ball is doubtful for the beginning of the 2022-23 season due to lingering knee pain, according to ESPN's Jamal Collier and Ramona Shelburne. Ball suffered a torn meniscus last season that knocked him out for the year in January. While the Bulls believe that his knee is structurally sound, he continued to deal with pain as he ramped up his basketball activities during offseason rehab. Ball will return to Chicago next week for further testing. The Bulls begin training camp at the end of the month”.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lonzo-ball-doubtful-for-start-of-season-as-knee-pain-persists-following-meniscus-surgery-per-report/

I think this is going to be a bigger injury even though a lot of people are thinking otherwise. As far as I know, he still cannot put pressure on his leg. So, I think it is going to be really hard for him to start playing quickly.

Don’t get me wrong. I really want to see him play very quickly. But I just don’t think that his leg is in a condition to take that pressure. He had suffered an Injury previously as well. It will be really sad if he also suffers injury this season as well. As far as I am hearing, things don’t look good.

Yeah they need him on the court as quick as possible. Missing your starting point guard is killer for team flow. Knicks have been without a true point guard for a decade and look where it led them. Every good team has a good point guard. Even teams with all world superstars needs someone to run the show. Bulls got a good squad they are a top 5 team if healthy.

That's true but unfortunately for Chicago Bulls, they won't be having Lonzo Ball as their point guard for the time being as he still needs more time to rest and heal the tear in his knee and after that, he'll be spending another few months doing some rehab to get in sync again. So, I really think it's safe to say that the Bulls will have to run the season without him.

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I’m not sure I like the Hornets signing Montrez Harrell. I feel like he got his bag when he left the Clippers and hasn’t been the same since. I don’t suspect any team that signs him is going to get their money’s worth. I don’t think he’s a good pairing with their young run and gun squad either. I guess we’ll see how it goes, but I feel like it won’t go well.

Signing with the Hornets or the Sixers? It's the latter that I'm reading.

It's $5.2 Million for two years with a player option for a 28-year-old center. I don't think that's a bad deal for any team since he can still be useful in player rotations. The Sixers probably thinks he could give Embiid more minutes to rest while he's on the floor. Maybe they're hoping a double-double or close to it for 20 minutes?

It's the Sixers, he was already in the Hornets in the recent season. But yes, I agree. I think the Sixers are looking for a temporary center while Embiid is resting or taking more time in the offensive playing as a power-forward because why would they sign Harrell if that is not what they are looking forward to. Anyway, only time can answer these questions we're thinking.

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Quote from: Pamadar on September 06, 2022, 08:18:18 PM

No doubt offensive production, but Melo also needs to adjust to his defense, younger star might expose him and take that advantage, giving him a tough game, treating him as the weak side to make or create a play on his side.
kind of coach doesn't want to see having someone inside as a liability.

Seems not appropriate for me to expect Carmelo Anthony to adjust his defense at the current point of his career. He is almost on the retirement period. Why expect him to adjust on his weak side wherein the best thing he can do is to take advantage of what he's capable to do. The roster can be balance with both offense and defense. No need that all players are good in defense especially if Melo is on the lineup.

If struggling, then sit him out. He is currently averaging less playing time now compare to his usual. No need to give him 30MPG or something.

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Former Sixth man of the year Montrezl Harrell signed with the Philadelphia 76ers for 2 years. I'm liking Philly even more with this new acquisition. If James Harden returns this season fit and brings back his good old years then this team is serious to reach the top. It can compete against the Celtics and the Bucks in the eastern conference. I expect Miami Heat to slow down this season after losing Tucker and not acquiring anything material in return. Miami will have a hard time repeating as the number 1 winningest team in the east with its rival teams taking some big moves with their line-ups.

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We can't stress that enough, he needs to transform his body, gain some weight but at the same time, not losing his speed. Just pure muscle added to his frame will make his stronger and as you have said, can't be bullied by the big men.

Eventually his body will mature and he will fit on the requirement in the NBA. Giannis has transformed his body and has improve through time, so it's possible for him to improve and might become an NBA superstar.

I don't think Chet will ever be as big as Giannis. More likely he'll suffer from injury issues like all other paper bodied athletes before him. Basketball is too hard on the body for these skinny guys to make it at the highest level. There's a reason guys like Taco Fall or Bol Bol can't ever live up to their hype. Running so much is detrimental on the body when you're so big and when you're paper thin and 7 feet tall, it just doesn't work for long. It seems like Chet's body has already started to fail him. I don't see him playing much in the NBA.

He doesn't need to be like Giannis, he is a freak and I don't see anyone can match how he build his from his rookie body to the one that we are seeing right now without giving up his speed and athleticism. But what we are commenting is that at 7'0, he should have some muscles overall, from his legs to his upper body and balance everything. He can't be compare to Taco Fall or Bol Bol, yes they are very tall but I haven't heard any hype on them when they enter except their height. But Chet is different, he has the body of a Durant and plays the same position.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 07, 2022, 07:16:26 AM

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We can't stress that enough, he needs to transform his body, gain some weight but at the same time, not losing his speed. Just pure muscle added to his frame will make his stronger and as you have said, can't be bullied by the big men.

Eventually his body will mature and he will fit on the requirement in the NBA. Giannis has transformed his body and has improve through time, so it's possible for him to improve and might become an NBA superstar.

I don't think Chet will ever be as big as Giannis. More likely he'll suffer from injury issues like all other paper bodied athletes before him. Basketball is too hard on the body for these skinny guys to make it at the highest level. There's a reason guys like Taco Fall or Bol Bol can't ever live up to their hype. Running so much is detrimental on the body when you're so big and when you're paper thin and 7 feet tall, it just doesn't work for long. It seems like Chet's body has already started to fail him. I don't see him playing much in the NBA.

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 07, 2022, 07:04:11 AM

We can't stress that enough, he needs to transform his body, gain some weight but at the same time, not losing his speed. Just pure muscle added to his frame will make his stronger and as you have said, can't be bullied by the big men.

Eventually his body will mature and he will fit on the requirement in the NBA. Giannis has transformed his body and has improve through time, so it's possible for him to improve and might become an NBA superstar.

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I think OKC already has a plan on Chet on how to buffed him up in preparation for this season. But his freak accident is something that no one see, the kid just want to play basketball before the actual NBA season but it happens. So a big lesson for him, but again, no one is to blame. So we should wait for the Griddy - Holgrem tandem. As obviously it will be delayed until next season.

They should have, and they should be ready for anyone who would be injured as injury could happen anytime. OKC is still a young team, there's not much expectation from them, so the fans will understand. Anyway, I think Chet is still young, he can still recover and start a new season strong.

Expectation change and many of their fans hope that they will be in better position when Chet added to their team. But unfortunately he got injured for the whole season so for sure those hope has been changed to doubt since their current rooster is not title contender as we know they are a young team. Chet is young but he needs to improve his body because if he remain thin for sure he might be bullied by strong players on NBA.

And it's better that it did happen before the actual NBA game, because if we have a scenario wherein they are really doing good then suddenly Chet gets injured, for sure they playoff hopeful goes out of the drain.

We can't stress that enough, he needs to transform his body, gain some weight but at the same time, not losing his speed. Just pure muscle added to his frame will make his stronger and as you have said, can't be bullied by the big men.

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I think OKC already has a plan on Chet on how to buffed him up in preparation for this season. But his freak accident is something that no one see, the kid just want to play basketball before the actual NBA season but it happens. So a big lesson for him, but again, no one is to blame. So we should wait for the Griddy - Holgrem tandem. As obviously it will be delayed until next season.

They should have, and they should be ready for anyone who would be injured as injury could happen anytime. OKC is still a young team, there's not much expectation from them, so the fans will understand. Anyway, I think Chet is still young, he can still recover and start a new season strong.

Expectation change and many of their fans hope that they will be in better position when Chet added to their team. But unfortunately he got injured for the whole season so for sure those hope has been changed to doubt since their current rooster is not title contender as we know they are a young team. Chet is young but he needs to improve his body because if he remain thin for sure he might be bullied by strong players on NBA.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 07, 2022, 05:53:50 AM

I think OKC already has a plan on Chet on how to buffed him up in preparation for this season. But his freak accident is something that no one see, the kid just want to play basketball before the actual NBA season but it happens. So a big lesson for him, but again, no one is to blame. So we should wait for the Griddy - Holgrem tandem. As obviously it will be delayed until next season.

They should have, and they should be ready for anyone who would be injured as injury could happen anytime. OKC is still a young team, there's not much expectation from them, so the fans will understand. Anyway, I think Chet is still young, he can still recover and start a new season strong.

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I’m not sure I like the Hornets signing Montrez Harrell. I feel like he got his bag when he left the Clippers and hasn’t been the same since. I don’t suspect any team that signs him is going to get their money’s worth. I don’t think he’s a good pairing with their young run and gun squad either. I guess we’ll see how it goes, but I feel like it won’t go well.

Signing with the Hornets or the Sixers? It's the latter that I'm reading.

It's $5.2 Million for two years with a player option for a 28-year-old center. I don't think that's a bad deal for any team since he can still be useful in player rotations. The Sixers probably thinks he could give Embiid more minutes to rest while he's on the floor. Maybe they're hoping a double-double or close to it for 20 minutes?

I think that's good enough money for Harrell. When the Clippers let go of him, he said that they made a big mistake. But now it seems that LA has made the right decision because when he move to the Lakers, he didn't have any impact and then he was traded to Washington and now moving to a new team. Hopefully he can land his spot on the Sixers and maybe he can call it a home for the next 2 seasons.

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Better not to assume for him to come back this upcoming season, forcing him to play might harm his injury

and instead of bringing quality years to the league the chance for him to get a much more serious injury, or it might complicate
him moving comfortably while playing.

Enough rest and proper conditioning, he still young and with updated medical treatment with his injury for sure he can
recover and be back with a better preparation for the upcoming next season.

Yeah, he should have to need not to be quick thinking he's that able and besides NBA is a different league for his physique to be perfectly honest. I think this injury of his started when he was invited in the pro league with Lebron and Jayson Tatum, it was shown there how he barely runs after a hit from LBJ if I can remember that clip correctly.

I think Chet should focus on his injury and how to improve his body, he needs to be buffed until the time he's healed or once he's ready to play again. Now there's no Giddy - Holgrem tandem we may see in Oklahoma basketball but this is just for a while, I just love these kids to play in the court and I think they're special.

I think OKC already has a plan on Chet on how to buffed him up in preparation for this season. But his freak accident is something that no one see, the kid just want to play basketball before the actual NBA season but it happens. So a big lesson for him, but again, no one is to blame. So we should wait for the Griddy - Holgrem tandem. As obviously it will be delayed until next season.

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I’m not sure I like the Hornets signing Montrez Harrell. I feel like he got his bag when he left the Clippers and hasn’t been the same since. I don’t suspect any team that signs him is going to get their money’s worth. I don’t think he’s a good pairing with their young run and gun squad either. I guess we’ll see how it goes, but I feel like it won’t go well.

Signing with the Hornets or the Sixers? It's the latter that I'm reading.

It's $5.2 Million for two years with a player option for a 28-year-old center. I don't think that's a bad deal for any team since he can still be useful in player rotations. The Sixers probably thinks he could give Embiid more minutes to rest while he's on the floor. Maybe they're hoping a double-double or close to it for 20 minutes?

It was in the Sixers where he signed and maybe there is a bit of mistake with that post.
https://www.nba.com/news/montrezl-harrell-signs-philadelphia-sixers

After giving Drummond to the Nets in the Harden-Simmons trade, the Sixers really lacked a big at that time and it was Embiid who was their reliable big. Now they are starting to acquire bigs like DeAndre Jordan and now they also got Harrell who isn't tall for a big TBH but a good defender and a former 6th man of the year when he was in Clippers. His stint with the Lakers was the reason why his efficiency went down drastically but I think he can still contribute more to the team knowing how he played when he was in the Clippers. It's a good sign to the Sixers as Embiid will play less minutes.

I think his game drastically went down when he transfer to the Lakers, he still contribute but not as what we expected from him. Anyhow, it's good that he still find a team this season and yeah, the Sixers needs someone to compliment Joel in the middle so Trez could be a good fit for them. He can still defend and even score inside, give them good offensive and defensive rebounds too.

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Too risky for me. The word here "could" mean he isn't 100% and if that's the case then it means that he can get re-injured again if they will force him to play.

Look at Klay. He spent 2 years sitting in the bench and working every day for his injury to get healed. Last season when he came back, he isn't the usual Klay where he is scoring more than 20+ but his contributions to the team and their title is still huge. I think it's best for OKC to just let Chet sit for the whole season if he isn't 100% healthy at the end of the season. I think we will agree that OKC will not reach the playoffs this upcoming season, right? I mean they only have young and talented players.

Whether this is true or not, it's best for him and for the OKC to rest him this upcoming season while focusing on his body because that body will not last long knowing how strong NBA bigs are right now.

I definitely agree on this! They should not rush Chet's healing process because that could lead in a more serious situation where he will rest for years and that could badly end for the young Chet as his just about to start his career in the NBA. Also, letting him play in the near end of regular season is not the best option for the team as he will just confuse the whole roster with the current system they are building just like when Klay played on the GSW after 2 years of resting.

It might be more best for Chet to focus more on himself in training separately and buffing himself up in the gym and some weights as he needed that more so that he's more buffed when his time will come to play again for the league.

Chet not rushing back to health is of course important but we should also see him get a bit more bulked as well. He is tall and talented and that's great but without a bit more muscle he is going to have a lot of trouble. Not everyone could be like Kevin Durant who is both 7 feet tall and very skinny and doesn't really get that much injuries aside from that one big he had recently.

Chet on the other hand would get reinjured again and again constantly if he doesn't get muscle. This would be a bit of a trouble if we could see him get some shots up type of healing process first, you know how when players are not fully ready but they start small practice? That will tell us something about him.

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I think I just missed one trade that happened in June. Grin

Well, thankfully I bumped into it while reading something else about the new power rankings and now I won't be innocent when I see them playing in a new jersey.
Here is the trade that happened between the Nuggets and Wizards.
Sources: Washington has acquired Will Barton and Monte Morris from Denver for Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Ish Smith

So the Nuggets are trying something new. I bet it's because of what happened last season and these two guys did help the Joker but not in a stretch that is expected from them unlike when Murray was around. But the stats from KCP and Ish was almost identical, and I would still pick the former players for chemistry strength.

Just weird though that they have to try something new this season when Jamal is going back to play. Both Barton is a good contributing to them, and trading him for KCP and Ish Smith doesn't have anything for the Nuggets to be honest. Maybe KCP wll become their corner 3' shooter when Jokic do a dribble penetrate and pass outside. But as you have said, there will be a chemistry issue with this new Denver players.

I think it is just fine that they try something new at this point. Their stars are not getting any younger and they have not reach the finals in this current team. Maybe this change can be good to them.

Chemistry will not be a problem long term. There can be issues in the first few months but it is not something that cannot be ironed out in a few months. In worst case scenario, they still have 82 games to play in NBA to get that chemistry going before they enter playoffs. It could be a rough start if that chemistry will really be a problem but it is fine as long as they get into playoffs. By that time, they have played enough games together to have a good chemistry and win when it matters the most, the playoffs and the finals.

Yeah, that may be their point.
They are more focused on surrounding Jokic with good players and this might be their answer if it doesn't work out with the old ones.
I do think the case is they find Jokic not difficult to be in chemistry with new players, just like Aaron Gordon.
He may not be that productive last year but I can sense he found his new home.
I mean Jokic won't be an MVP if not for the players around him where he drops his pass and becomes one of the tops in the league's assists.

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I’m not sure I like the Hornets signing Montrez Harrell. I feel like he got his bag when he left the Clippers and hasn’t been the same since. I don’t suspect any team that signs him is going to get their money’s worth. I don’t think he’s a good pairing with their young run and gun squad either. I guess we’ll see how it goes, but I feel like it won’t go well.

Signing with the Hornets or the Sixers? It's the latter that I'm reading.

It's $5.2 Million for two years with a player option for a 28-year-old center. I don't think that's a bad deal for any team since he can still be useful in player rotations. The Sixers probably thinks he could give Embiid more minutes to rest while he's on the floor. Maybe they're hoping a double-double or close to it for 20 minutes?

It was in the Sixers where he signed and maybe there is a bit of mistake with that post.
https://www.nba.com/news/montrezl-harrell-signs-philadelphia-sixers

After giving Drummond to the Nets in the Harden-Simmons trade, the Sixers really lacked a big at that time and it was Embiid who was their reliable big. Now they are starting to acquire bigs like DeAndre Jordan and now they also got Harrell who isn't tall for a big TBH but a good defender and a former 6th man of the year when he was in Clippers. His stint with the Lakers was the reason why his efficiency went down drastically but I think he can still contribute more to the team knowing how he played when he was in the Clippers. It's a good sign to the Sixers as Embiid will play less minutes.

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Quote from: mirakal on September 06, 2022, 11:44:04 AM

They just need more offensive players like Melo because the existing roster is already more of a defensive players that is why they are called as one of the best defensive teams in the league. Melo can provide that production they need from the bench, no doubt about that because he is already proven throughout the years and until now he can still give good numbers if he'll be given an exposure.

No doubt offensive production, but Melo also needs to adjust to his defense, younger star might expose him

and take that advantage, giving him a tough game, treating him as the weak side to make or create a play on his side.
kind of coach doesn't want to see having someone inside as a liability.

But it would be a great challenge for Melo to keep pushing his best to stay inside league, he still got this just give
him enough exposure and he will surely deliver.

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I’m not sure I like the Hornets signing Montrez Harrell. I feel like he got his bag when he left the Clippers and hasn’t been the same since. I don’t suspect any team that signs him is going to get their money’s worth. I don’t think he’s a good pairing with their young run and gun squad either. I guess we’ll see how it goes, but I feel like it won’t go well.

Signing with the Hornets or the Sixers? It's the latter that I'm reading.

It's $5.2 Million for two years with a player option for a 28-year-old center. I don't think that's a bad deal for any team since he can still be useful in player rotations. The Sixers probably thinks he could give Embiid more minutes to rest while he's on the floor. Maybe they're hoping a double-double or close to it for 20 minutes?

Its a good deal for him knowing that Harrel can contribute very well on defensive ends and imagine how he can use him for a cheap contract then its a win-win situation for them to have him in the rooster. If Sixers could sign him then its another good help to them because they can rest Embiid and feel fresh in crucial times when they need him.

It's a good idea in terms of utilizing their remaining budget, Harrel, for defensive purpose while Embiid is resting. Let Harden lead the

offense and give Embiid minutes to rest for maybe 10-20 mins or till they can handle the situation, the value of Harrel is fair enough

for any team to sign him and make a good use of his defensive capabilities. Who knows, maybe he still got something to provide if he's

playing with the right players around him.

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Quote from: Yogee on September 06, 2022, 05:16:55 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on September 06, 2022, 04:10:03 PM

I’m not sure I like the Hornets signing Montrez Harrell. I feel like he got his bag when he left the Clippers and hasn’t been the same since. I don’t suspect any team that signs him is going to get their money’s worth. I don’t think he’s a good pairing with their young run and gun squad either. I guess we’ll see how it goes, but I feel like it won’t go well.

Signing with the Hornets or the Sixers? It's the latter that I'm reading.

It's $5.2 Million for two years with a player option for a 28-year-old center. I don't think that's a bad deal for any team since he can still be useful in player rotations. The Sixers probably thinks he could give Embiid more minutes to rest while he's on the floor. Maybe they're hoping a double-double or close to it for 20 minutes?

Its a good deal for him knowing that Harrel can contribute very well on defensive ends and imagine how he can use him for a cheap contract then its a win-win situation for them to have him in the rooster. If Sixers could sign him then its another good help to them because they can rest Embiid and feel fresh in crucial times when they need him.

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