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legendary
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September 06, 2022, 05:39:30 PM
I think I just missed one trade that happened in June.  Grin Well, thankfully I bumped into it while reading something else about the new power rankings and now I won't be innocent when I see them playing in a new jersey.
Here is the trade that happened between the Nuggets and Wizards.
Sources: Washington has acquired Will Barton and Monte Morris from Denver for Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Ish Smith

So the Nuggets are trying something new. I bet it's because of what happened last season and these two guys did help the Joker but not in a stretch that is expected from them unlike when Murray was around. But the stats from KCP and Ish was almost identical, and I would still pick the former players for chemistry strength.

Just weird though that they have to try something new this season when Jamal is going back to play. Both Barton is a good contributing to them, and trading him for KCP and Ish Smith doesn't have anything for the Nuggets to be honest. Maybe KCP wll become their corner 3' shooter when Jokic do a dribble penetrate and pass outside. But as you have said, there will be a chemistry issue with this new Denver players.

I think it is just fine that they try something new at this point. Their stars are not getting any younger and they have not reach the finals in this current team. Maybe this change can be good to them.

Chemistry will not be a problem long term. There can be issues in the first few months but it is not something that cannot be ironed out in a few months. In worst case scenario, they still have 82 games to play in NBA to get that chemistry going before they enter playoffs. It could be a rough start if that chemistry will really be a problem but it is fine as long as they get into playoffs. By that time, they have played enough games together to have a good chemistry and win when it matters the most, the playoffs and the finals.
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September 06, 2022, 05:16:55 PM
I’m not sure I like the Hornets signing Montrez Harrell. I feel like he got his bag when he left the Clippers and hasn’t been the same since. I don’t suspect any team that signs him is going to get their money’s worth. I don’t think he’s a good pairing with their young run and gun squad either. I guess we’ll see how it goes, but I feel like it won’t go well.
Signing with the Hornets or the Sixers? It's the latter that I'm reading.

It's $5.2 Million for two years with a player option for a 28-year-old center. I don't think that's a bad deal for any team since he can still be useful in player rotations. The Sixers probably thinks he could give Embiid more minutes to rest while he's on the floor. Maybe they're hoping a double-double or close to it for 20 minutes?
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September 06, 2022, 04:10:03 PM
I’m not sure I like the Hornets signing Montrez Harrell. I feel like he got his bag when he left the Clippers and hasn’t been the same since. I don’t suspect any team that signs him is going to get their money’s worth. I don’t think he’s a good pairing with their young run and gun squad either. I guess we’ll see how it goes, but I feel like it won’t go well.
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September 06, 2022, 04:02:04 PM
Better not to assume for him to come back this upcoming season, forcing him to play might harm his injury

and instead of bringing quality years to the league the chance for him to get a much more serious injury, or it might complicate
him moving comfortably while playing.

Enough rest and proper conditioning, he still young and with updated medical treatment with his injury for sure he can
recover and be back with a better preparation for the upcoming next season.
Yeah, he should have to need not to be quick thinking he's that able and besides NBA is a different league for his physique to be perfectly honest. I think this injury of his started when he was invited in the pro league with Lebron and Jayson Tatum, it was shown there how he barely runs after a hit from LBJ if I can remember that clip correctly.

I think Chet should focus on his injury and how to improve his body, he needs to be buffed until the time he's healed or once he's ready to play again. Now there's no Giddy - Holgrem tandem we may see in Oklahoma basketball but this is just for a while, I just love these kids to play in the court and I think they're special.
legendary
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September 06, 2022, 04:00:53 PM
Some unfortunate news for the Chicago Bulls.

“Chicago Bulls guard Lonzo Ball is doubtful for the beginning of the 2022-23 season due to lingering knee pain, according to ESPN's Jamal Collier and Ramona Shelburne. Ball suffered a torn meniscus last season that knocked him out for the year in January. While the Bulls believe that his knee is structurally sound, he continued to deal with pain as he ramped up his basketball activities during offseason rehab. Ball will return to Chicago next week for further testing. The Bulls begin training camp at the end of the month”.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lonzo-ball-doubtful-for-start-of-season-as-knee-pain-persists-following-meniscus-surgery-per-report/

I think this is going to be a bigger injury even though a lot of people are thinking otherwise. As far as I know, he still cannot put pressure on his leg. So, I think it is going to be really hard for him to start playing quickly.

Don’t get me wrong.  I really want to see him play very quickly. But I just don’t think that his leg is in a condition to take that pressure. He had suffered an Injury previously as well. It will be really sad if he also suffers injury this season as well. As far as I am hearing, things don’t look good.

Yeah they need him on the court as quick as possible.  Missing your starting point guard is killer for team flow.  Knicks have been without a true point guard for a decade and look where it led them.  Every good team has a good point guard.  Even teams with all world superstars needs someone to run the show. Bulls got a good squad they are a top 5 team if healthy.
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September 06, 2022, 02:47:02 PM
Some unfortunate news for the Chicago Bulls.

“Chicago Bulls guard Lonzo Ball is doubtful for the beginning of the 2022-23 season due to lingering knee pain, according to ESPN's Jamal Collier and Ramona Shelburne. Ball suffered a torn meniscus last season that knocked him out for the year in January. While the Bulls believe that his knee is structurally sound, he continued to deal with pain as he ramped up his basketball activities during offseason rehab. Ball will return to Chicago next week for further testing. The Bulls begin training camp at the end of the month”.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lonzo-ball-doubtful-for-start-of-season-as-knee-pain-persists-following-meniscus-surgery-per-report/

I think this is going to be a bigger injury even though a lot of people are thinking otherwise. As far as I know, he still cannot put pressure on his leg. So, I think it is going to be really hard for him to start playing quickly.

Don’t get me wrong.  I really want to see him play very quickly. But I just don’t think that his leg is in a condition to take that pressure. He had suffered an Injury previously as well. It will be really sad if he also suffers injury this season as well. As far as I am hearing, things don’t look good.
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September 06, 2022, 02:17:43 PM
Guys, today I was visiting some sports/news sites and I read a news article about Chet Holmgren's injury (to be more specific an update on his injury) and it said that he could return to the NBA maybe at the end of the season regular or early playoffs.

As incredible as it may seem, I tried to access this site again to view it more calmly, but it seems that the content was taken down... To be more specific, this news I had read was on the ESPN website.

Has anyone seen any news similar to this about Holmgren's injury!!?
Too risky for me. The word here "could" mean he isn't 100% and if that's the case then it means that he can get re-injured again if they will force him to play.

Look at Klay. He spent 2 years sitting in the bench and working every day for his injury to get healed. Last season when he came back, he isn't the usual Klay where he is scoring more than 20+ but his contributions to the team and their title is still huge. I think it's best for OKC to just let Chet sit for the whole season if he isn't 100% healthy at the end of the season. I think we will agree that OKC will not reach the playoffs this upcoming season, right? I mean they only have young and talented players.

Whether this is true or not, it's best for him and for the OKC to rest him this upcoming season while focusing on his body because that body will not last long knowing how strong NBA bigs are right now.

I definitely agree on this! They should not rush Chet's healing process because that could lead in a more serious situation where he will rest for years and that could badly end for the young Chet as his just about to start his career in the NBA. Also, letting him play in the near end of regular season is not the best option for the team as he will just confuse the whole roster with the current system they are building just like when Klay played on the GSW after 2 years of resting.

It might be more best for Chet to focus more on himself in training separately and buffing himself up in the gym and some weights as he needed that more so that he's more buffed when his time will come to play again for the league.
legendary
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September 06, 2022, 02:01:35 PM
Celtics lost some firepower for next season as Gallinari has been diagnosed a torn ACL on his left knee. That's a nasty injury and he's likely to miss the entire season. He's not on superstar level but decent role player that can fill up the rotation which the Celtics badly needs.

I agree that it was very unfortunate that Danilo hasn't even play for the Celtics and he got injured in FIBA. And that is why the name of Carmelo Anthony surfaces as potential replacement for him in Celtics. But I don't see any similarities, if there will be Anthony might be worst defender than Gallinari. But let's see, Carmelo can still play and give good numbers per night. Let's see what the Celtics will do to find at least a good replacement for Danilo and if that will be Anthony at least for this year in green uniform.

Yeah I actually thought getting galinari would be perfect for this team.  Sometime to help with spacing and for those drive and kicks so they can't completely crash in on theor drives.  Always liked Danilo ever since he was a knick.  Funny how people are talking about carmelo possibly replacing his minutes since long ago he was trade to Denver for carmelo.  Circle of the NBA
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September 06, 2022, 11:53:12 AM
I think he was that good, but Father Time is undefeated. When your game is built on the back of your athleticism, the aging process is never kind to your career as an athlete. Russell is going to suffer the same fate as an older Shawn Kemp. Unwilling to change his game and unable to perform to prior capabilities.

Honestly, I think Westbrook's poor performance last season wasn't due to aging but because of his unwillingness to somehow adapt his style of play to his new teammates, especially LeBron. So it seems to me Westbrook still has enough athleticism, but he needs to use his strengths differently instead of trying to make triple-doubles every game.

Nah! Aging wasn't the issue on Westbrook because we can still see at times that he is reacting quickly and still agile, the only reason I see is the same as yours, he is not adapting to what the team needs instead he is trying to make a highlight of himself. Westbrook should know by now that he is not the main star of the team anymore and do exactly what he is signed up for if he still want to play longer in the league.

He's still consistent on numbers of games so I don't think is an issue with him. He's been bashed badly and that totally affect him emotionally that's why we see his performance decline.

But for sure he can adjust next season if the teammates and the coaching staff will believe on his capabilities so that they can release a all star westbrook next season.

He's been bashed frequently because the fans can clearly see that he is still looking out for that right exposure before he gives the team some points when in fact that is not his job, this time he should do what his role state and only go overboard in the right phase because the lakers didn't sign him in to be the main alpha and clearly he is still struggling to accept his situation.

I've read a rumor that he is expected to see Lebron and AD for a pre-camp assessment before the whole team trains together, I think they will assess Westbrook for the last time before they get other players just like what the other trade rumors says.
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September 06, 2022, 11:52:29 AM
I think I just missed one trade that happened in June.  Grin Well, thankfully I bumped into it while reading something else about the new power rankings and now I won't be innocent when I see them playing in a new jersey.
Here is the trade that happened between the Nuggets and Wizards.
Sources: Washington has acquired Will Barton and Monte Morris from Denver for Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Ish Smith

So the Nuggets are trying something new. I bet it's because of what happened last season and these two guys did help the Joker but not in a stretch that is expected from them unlike when Murray was around. But the stats from KCP and Ish was almost identical, and I would still pick the former players for chemistry strength.

Just weird though that they have to try something new this season when Jamal is going back to play. Both Barton is a good contributing to them, and trading him for KCP and Ish Smith doesn't have anything for the Nuggets to be honest. Maybe KCP wll become their corner 3' shooter when Jokic do a dribble penetrate and pass outside. But as you have said, there will be a chemistry issue with this new Denver players.

I'm also in the impression that Nuggets will not touch anything with their squad since Murray is playing back,

before he got injured, they are very competitive and with that same squad they can continue the quest in chasing the ring

maybe there's something that the management saw with those two new players. Maybe they can add some from the system

that the management is working, we can't tell about chemistry issue unless we seen them playing together sharing the ball.
legendary
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September 06, 2022, 11:51:35 AM
Some unfortunate news for the Chicago Bulls.

“Chicago Bulls guard Lonzo Ball is doubtful for the beginning of the 2022-23 season due to lingering knee pain, according to ESPN's Jamal Collier and Ramona Shelburne. Ball suffered a torn meniscus last season that knocked him out for the year in January. While the Bulls believe that his knee is structurally sound, he continued to deal with pain as he ramped up his basketball activities during offseason rehab. Ball will return to Chicago next week for further testing. The Bulls begin training camp at the end of the month”.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lonzo-ball-doubtful-for-start-of-season-as-knee-pain-persists-following-meniscus-surgery-per-report/
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September 06, 2022, 11:44:04 AM
Celtics lost some firepower for next season as Gallinari has been diagnosed a torn ACL on his left knee. That's a nasty injury and he's likely to miss the entire season. He's not on superstar level but decent role player that can fill up the rotation which the Celtics badly needs.

I agree that it was very unfortunate that Danilo hasn't even play for the Celtics and he got injured in FIBA. And that is why the name of Carmelo Anthony surfaces as potential replacement for him in Celtics. But I don't see any similarities, if there will be Anthony might be worst defender than Gallinari. But let's see, Carmelo can still play and give good numbers per night. Let's see what the Celtics will do to find at least a good replacement for Danilo and if that will be Anthony at least for this year in green uniform.

Let's see, we cannot conclude right away, Celtics have depth, they are a great team and they are still a championship contender this season. Melo might be recruited and might give a spark to the team, no one knows but I'm sure the management will do everything to solve this problem.

I hope to see Melo playing with them. He can blend with the type of game play Celtics have, Brown and Tatum

are players who know how to find an open man and with the good setup for Melo, he still has that offensive threat if given
that open shot, though on the defensive side not sure if he might be a liable unless he will also adjust and add some on his
routine, tougher and quicker young guards might attack him, so it's important to improve on this matter.

They just need more offensive players like Melo because the existing roster is already more of a defensive players that is why they are called as one of the best defensive teams in the league. Melo can provide that production they need from the bench, no doubt about that because he is already proven throughout the years and until now he can still give good numbers if he'll be given an exposure.
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September 06, 2022, 07:19:32 AM
I think I just missed one trade that happened in June.  Grin Well, thankfully I bumped into it while reading something else about the new power rankings and now I won't be innocent when I see them playing in a new jersey.
Here is the trade that happened between the Nuggets and Wizards.
Sources: Washington has acquired Will Barton and Monte Morris from Denver for Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Ish Smith

So the Nuggets are trying something new. I bet it's because of what happened last season and these two guys did help the Joker but not in a stretch that is expected from them unlike when Murray was around. But the stats from KCP and Ish was almost identical, and I would still pick the former players for chemistry strength.

Just weird though that they have to try something new this season when Jamal is going back to play. Both Barton is a good contributing to them, and trading him for KCP and Ish Smith doesn't have anything for the Nuggets to be honest. Maybe KCP wll become their corner 3' shooter when Jokic do a dribble penetrate and pass outside. But as you have said, there will be a chemistry issue with this new Denver players.
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September 06, 2022, 06:53:04 AM
I think I just missed one trade that happened in June.  Grin Well, thankfully I bumped into it while reading something else about the new power rankings and now I won't be innocent when I see them playing in a new jersey.
Here is the trade that happened between the Nuggets and Wizards.
Sources: Washington has acquired Will Barton and Monte Morris from Denver for Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Ish Smith

So the Nuggets are trying something new. I bet it's because of what happened last season and these two guys did help the Joker but not in a stretch that is expected from them unlike when Murray was around. But the stats from KCP and Ish was almost identical, and I would still pick the former players for chemistry strength.


I don't know if they think of it very well, I think it's a bad decision, these two are great contributors of the team, the only problem with the Nuggets is that they are undermanned and one of their superstars has underperformed.

They missed Jamal Murray due to injury, and Aaron Gordon was not playing like a superstar.
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September 06, 2022, 06:48:13 AM
I think I just missed one trade that happened in June.  Grin Well, thankfully I bumped into it while reading something else about the new power rankings and now I won't be innocent when I see them playing in a new jersey.
Here is the trade that happened between the Nuggets and Wizards.
Sources: Washington has acquired Will Barton and Monte Morris from Denver for Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Ish Smith

So the Nuggets are trying something new. I bet it's because of what happened last season and these two guys did help the Joker but not in a stretch that is expected from them unlike when Murray was around. But the stats from KCP and Ish was almost identical, and I would still pick the former players for chemistry strength.
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September 06, 2022, 06:46:07 AM

His team, OKC already applied for Disabled player exception ~ Thunder reportedly apply for $4.95 million disabled player exception for Holmgren injury

It's only happening to players who are not popular, I don't hear this kind of report on star players like Durant, Kawhi, and Paul George when they were injured. Well, the team could save that amount if it will be approve, still a good amount of money.
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September 06, 2022, 05:52:56 AM
Better not to assume for him to come back this upcoming season, forcing him to play might harm his injury
and instead of bringing quality years to the league the chance for him to get a much more serious injury, or it might complicate
him moving comfortably while playing.
Enough rest and proper conditioning, he still young and with updated medical treatment with his injury for sure he can
recover and be back with a better preparation for the upcoming next season.

I don't think they will gonna force him to play this season except when he is 100% clear to play. Because OKC seems not the type of team where they rush to get to the top quickly, they taking slow steps but so far so good. right now instead of getting some star players to your team who will gonna ask for a trade-out after some failed seasons, it's better to put your gamble on these young stars because who knows maybe some of them becomes key players to give the team a huge boost in the future.
Yes, I do agree that OKC wouldn't force their young player to play right after that horrendous injury. So he might have to sit the rest of the season and watch from the sideline. He is still very young so I think he had heal that fast but not enough to make it this season.

They have gamble already and this seems to be the price they will get. Unfortunately, this kind of injuries are inevitable, so maybe just another year of wait wouldn't hurt their team.
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September 06, 2022, 05:47:06 AM
Better not to assume for him to come back this upcoming season, forcing him to play might harm his injury

and instead of bringing quality years to the league the chance for him to get a much more serious injury, or it might complicate
him moving comfortably while playing.

Enough rest and proper conditioning, he still young and with updated medical treatment with his injury for sure he can
recover and be back with a better preparation for the upcoming next season.
It's best to think of what has been said that he's out for the entire season. And that's a safe assumption for him that we'll never see him play whether it's for the playoffs or wherever his team is going to be.

His team, OKC already applied for Disabled player exception ~ Thunder reportedly apply for $4.95 million disabled player exception for Holmgren injury
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September 06, 2022, 02:05:56 AM
Better not to assume for him to come back this upcoming season, forcing him to play might harm his injury
and instead of bringing quality years to the league the chance for him to get a much more serious injury, or it might complicate
him moving comfortably while playing.
Enough rest and proper conditioning, he still young and with updated medical treatment with his injury for sure he can
recover and be back with a better preparation for the upcoming next season.

I don't think they will gonna force him to play this season except when he is 100% clear to play. Because OKC seems not the type of team where they rush to get to the top quickly, they taking slow steps but so far so good. right now instead of getting some star players to your team who will gonna ask for a trade-out after some failed seasons, it's better to put your gamble on these young stars because who knows maybe some of them becomes key players to give the team a huge boost in the future.
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September 06, 2022, 01:29:57 AM
Guys, today I was visiting some sports/news sites and I read a news article about Chet Holmgren's injury (to be more specific an update on his injury) and it said that he could return to the NBA maybe at the end of the season regular or early playoffs.

As incredible as it may seem, I tried to access this site again to view it more calmly, but it seems that the content was taken down... To be more specific, this news I had read was on the ESPN website.

Has anyone seen any news similar to this about Holmgren's injury!!?
Yes, he was injured. But I think the reason why they took it down is that they don't know the precise date on when his return will be.
Maybe, they will post it back after editing a few errors.
The injury (Lisfranc injury) is said to take 6 months to 1 year including rehabilitation and they should also take to account the mental shock it could bring to the rookie. So, expect it to take longer than a year. Once we see him in training camp next season, it will be a good sign.

Here is a link to the short analysis of the injury, how it happened, and some similar cases.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yj6YUtitVk

And OKC is a rebuilding team so there is no urgency to force the young kid into action next season. The team will make sure the kid will be fully healed to reach his full potential. At the moment, OKC is the second most number of future draft picks after the Utah Jazz, which means the potential for these teams to compete once again at the top is high in the next few years. Chet that time will have more extra weight and more muscles.

So it is only less than a month before the NBA starts again. I am very excited, especially about the T'wolves new line-up. I hope they can still trade D'lo before the season starts as per earlier plan.
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