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September 03, 2022, 03:37:35 AM
The Lakers today seem to be close to making a deal that will get rid of Russell Westbrook and get them Mike Conley...  I'm not sure how they plan to pull off this wizardry but apparently they're getting close enough for people to be making reports about it.  Granted Mike Conley isn't exactly a young guy either, but his game is less centered around athleticism so it might be a step in the right direction for the Lakers.  Although not ideal...
Mike Conley + players and draft picks. Getting Clarkson again might be a good trade as well.

TBH with how huge the contract of Westbrook is, I also don't know how the Jazz will deal with it and how will the trade talks end but I've read somewhere that the Lakers really want Westbrook to get traded because they see that he doesn't fit to the system of the team. Adding Conley to the Lakers will be a good thing because they will have a legit point guard though he is already past his prime, he can still make some good passes to his players and a good three-point shooter as well. Let's see how this will go or I might be surprised when I wake up in the morning.
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September 03, 2022, 02:08:06 AM
The Lakers today seem to be close to making a deal that will get rid of Russell Westbrook and get them Mike Conley...  I'm not sure how they plan to pull off this wizardry but apparently they're getting close enough for people to be making reports about it.  Granted Mike Conley isn't exactly a young guy either, but his game is less centered around athleticism so it might be a step in the right direction for the Lakers.  Although not ideal...

I guess that's what the rumors is, but I think the Lakers will have to get more out of WB trade, Conley will not be enough.

If I'm the Lakers management, will want to keep WB this season, and see how he does with a healthy Bron and AD and with a new coach, just saying.

Jazz for sure have a lot of picks now, it's just a matter of being lucky and get a great player. If we look at OKC, they are still in the rebuilding phase. They got Chet, but he was injured so the gamble hasn't paid yet.
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September 03, 2022, 02:06:19 AM
The Lakers today seem to be close to making a deal that will get rid of Russell Westbrook and get them Mike Conley...  I'm not sure how they plan to pull off this wizardry but apparently they're getting close enough for people to be making reports about it.  Granted Mike Conley isn't exactly a young guy either, but his game is less centered around athleticism so it might be a step in the right direction for the Lakers.  Although not ideal...
I've heard rumors too that the Lakers are targetting every player that the Jazz would like to dump. But I don't think the Jazz just want a Westbrook trade, they will need one more piece for their reconstruction. A draft or a young player. It's pretty obvious how they ended up in a trade with the Cavaliers.

Jazz and OKC are now tied with a stock of 15 first-round picks, I bet the Jazz want to add more if ever they will let Conley and Bojan go. And that's the formula to get rid of Westbrook for the Lakers and maybe 1 or 2 more picks for the Jazz.
While in rebuilding mode, they could just finish WB's contract or they could let go of him the next trade when another team eyes an interest.

The Lakers are running out of time to unload Westbrick and get the necessary players to utilize while Lebron is still playing at a superstar level. I will assume that the Lakers after losing that Irving potential due to their reluctance to give up their future draft picks are now willing to give it to the Jazz in order to obtain either Conley, Clarkson and Bojan. The Lakers should do it now because there are also many teams that are interested to take the good remaining players of Utah.

But since I am an underdog fan. I would love the Phoenix Suns to acquire 1 or 2 or even the 3 remaining stars of Utah. CP3 is old and definitely needs more support.

They may or not unload Westbrook from the Laker roster, I guess Ham already have a plan how to utilize Westbrook and Pat Bev on both offensive and defensive ends. I personally don't think they have run out of options on where to trade WB. And the Utah Jazz's Clarkson and co might be their last resort. Otherwise they'll have to run it back again with LeBron, AD, and Westbrook leading the squad.
This will be a great of opportunity for Ham to prove himself how good he is as a coach. Handling this current Laker roster is a bit challenging and pressuring specially that you have LeBron on your team. We all know LeBron is a good leader and may contradict with the coaches decision at some point.
I'd still love to see the Lakers run it back again this season.
Westbrooks contract is too expensive for any team to consider paying to get a washed up player or a bench player. I feel like he will sit alot of the season on the Lakers bench unless someone gets injured, which is very possible.
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September 03, 2022, 02:03:37 AM
The Lakers today seem to be close to making a deal that will get rid of Russell Westbrook and get them Mike Conley...  I'm not sure how they plan to pull off this wizardry but apparently they're getting close enough for people to be making reports about it.  Granted Mike Conley isn't exactly a young guy either, but his game is less centered around athleticism so it might be a step in the right direction for the Lakers.  Although not ideal...
I've heard rumors too that the Lakers are targetting every player that the Jazz would like to dump. But I don't think the Jazz just want a Westbrook trade, they will need one more piece for their reconstruction. A draft or a young player. It's pretty obvious how they ended up in a trade with the Cavaliers.

Jazz and OKC are now tied with a stock of 15 first-round picks, I bet the Jazz want to add more if ever they will let Conley and Bojan go. And that's the formula to get rid of Westbrook for the Lakers and maybe 1 or 2 more picks for the Jazz.
While in rebuilding mode, they could just finish WB's contract or they could let go of him the next trade when another team eyes an interest.

The Lakers are running out of time to unload Westbrick and get the necessary players to utilize while Lebron is still playing at a superstar level. I will assume that the Lakers after losing that Irving potential due to their reluctance to give up their future draft picks are now willing to give it to the Jazz in order to obtain either Conley, Clarkson and Bojan. The Lakers should do it now because there are also many teams that are interested to take the good remaining players of Utah.

But since I am an underdog fan. I would love the Phoenix Suns to acquire 1 or 2 or even the 3 remaining stars of Utah. CP3 is old and definitely needs more support.

It would be nice if Clarkson will land to Phoenix, though I doubt if Utah will let him go. He's still young and with

this rebuilding process he can be the main man for this team. The Jazz can surround him with good role players and with those
future picks, he can work on them and utilize those new young bloods.

Though there's nothing is for sure. While you are in this league, we will hear any updates if Jazz will also trade those three known
stars.
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September 03, 2022, 01:54:30 AM
The Lakers today seem to be close to making a deal that will get rid of Russell Westbrook and get them Mike Conley...  I'm not sure how they plan to pull off this wizardry but apparently they're getting close enough for people to be making reports about it.  Granted Mike Conley isn't exactly a young guy either, but his game is less centered around athleticism so it might be a step in the right direction for the Lakers.  Although not ideal...
I've heard rumors too that the Lakers are targetting every player that the Jazz would like to dump. But I don't think the Jazz just want a Westbrook trade, they will need one more piece for their reconstruction. A draft or a young player. It's pretty obvious how they ended up in a trade with the Cavaliers.

Jazz and OKC are now tied with a stock of 15 first-round picks, I bet the Jazz want to add more if ever they will let Conley and Bojan go. And that's the formula to get rid of Westbrook for the Lakers and maybe 1 or 2 more picks for the Jazz.
While in rebuilding mode, they could just finish WB's contract or they could let go of him the next trade when another team eyes an interest.

The Lakers are running out of time to unload Westbrick and get the necessary players to utilize while Lebron is still playing at a superstar level. I will assume that the Lakers after losing that Irving potential due to their reluctance to give up their future draft picks are now willing to give it to the Jazz in order to obtain either Conley, Clarkson and Bojan. The Lakers should do it now because there are also many teams that are interested to take the good remaining players of Utah.

But since I am an underdog fan. I would love the Phoenix Suns to acquire 1 or 2 or even the 3 remaining stars of Utah. CP3 is old and definitely needs more support.

They may or not unload Westbrook from the Laker roster, I guess Ham already have a plan how to utilize Westbrook and Pat Bev on both offensive and defensive ends. I personally don't think they have run out of options on where to trade WB. And the Utah Jazz's Clarkson and co might be their last resort. Otherwise they'll have to run it back again with LeBron, AD, and Westbrook leading the squad.
This will be a great of opportunity for Ham to prove himself how good he is as a coach. Handling this current Laker roster is a bit challenging and pressuring specially that you have LeBron on your team. We all know LeBron is a good leader and may contradict with the coaches decision at some point.
I'd still love to see the Lakers run it back again this season.
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September 03, 2022, 01:44:14 AM
The Lakers today seem to be close to making a deal that will get rid of Russell Westbrook and get them Mike Conley...  I'm not sure how they plan to pull off this wizardry but apparently they're getting close enough for people to be making reports about it.  Granted Mike Conley isn't exactly a young guy either, but his game is less centered around athleticism so it might be a step in the right direction for the Lakers.  Although not ideal...
I've heard rumors too that the Lakers are targetting every player that the Jazz would like to dump. But I don't think the Jazz just want a Westbrook trade, they will need one more piece for their reconstruction. A draft or a young player. It's pretty obvious how they ended up in a trade with the Cavaliers.

Jazz and OKC are now tied with a stock of 15 first-round picks, I bet the Jazz want to add more if ever they will let Conley and Bojan go. And that's the formula to get rid of Westbrook for the Lakers and maybe 1 or 2 more picks for the Jazz.
While in rebuilding mode, they could just finish WB's contract or they could let go of him the next trade when another team eyes an interest.

The Lakers are running out of time to unload Westbrick and get the necessary players to utilize while Lebron is still playing at a superstar level. I will assume that the Lakers after losing that Irving potential due to their reluctance to give up their future draft picks are now willing to give it to the Jazz in order to obtain either Conley, Clarkson and Bojan. The Lakers should do it now because there are also many teams that are interested to take the good remaining players of Utah.

But since I am an underdog fan. I would love the Phoenix Suns to acquire 1 or 2 or even the 3 remaining stars of Utah. CP3 is old and definitely needs more support.
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September 02, 2022, 10:56:33 PM
The Lakers today seem to be close to making a deal that will get rid of Russell Westbrook and get them Mike Conley...  I'm not sure how they plan to pull off this wizardry but apparently they're getting close enough for people to be making reports about it.  Granted Mike Conley isn't exactly a young guy either, but his game is less centered around athleticism so it might be a step in the right direction for the Lakers.  Although not ideal...
I've heard rumors too that the Lakers are targetting every player that the Jazz would like to dump. But I don't think the Jazz just want a Westbrook trade, they will need one more piece for their reconstruction. A draft or a young player. It's pretty obvious how they ended up in a trade with the Cavaliers.

Jazz and OKC are now tied with a stock of 15 first-round picks, I bet the Jazz want to add more if ever they will let Conley and Bojan go. And that's the formula to get rid of Westbrook for the Lakers and maybe 1 or 2 more picks for the Jazz.
While in rebuilding mode, they could just finish WB's contract or they could let go of him the next trade when another team eyes an interest.
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September 02, 2022, 07:56:19 PM
The Lakers today seem to be close to making a deal that will get rid of Russell Westbrook and get them Mike Conley...  I'm not sure how they plan to pull off this wizardry but apparently they're getting close enough for people to be making reports about it.  Granted Mike Conley isn't exactly a young guy either, but his game is less centered around athleticism so it might be a step in the right direction for the Lakers.  Although not ideal...
I read that Bojan Bogdanovic is also eligible so they may be enough for the Westbrook trade. Maybe the Jazz could add one or two future draft picks and the deal will be sealed.

I honestly think Lakers would be lucky to have Mike and Bojan since nobody really wanted Russ at the price they were asking.
I don't see any logic why Jazz would push for this trade after letting go of Mitchell. It just doesn't make sense to replace him unless they will give Lakers a player of lesser value.

I think Bojan Bogdanovic is overrated.  I keep hearing he might be getting traded to the Suns and people are excited about it, but I think it would be a bad move.  Dumping a distressed asset like Westbrook in exchange for taking him seems more appropriate to me.  I fear the Suns are going to get him though.  I hope they don't.
legendary
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September 02, 2022, 06:53:08 PM
About the Jazz, no more Gobert and Mitchell, who will lead the team? Clarkson?

We will just witness this once the season starts.

Since they have new sets of players and part of their main lineup before now changed, we will obviously see a different starter now. Can't think of who will lead the team but as long as they will perfectly blend their chemistry, that will be a team effort and not a man team that carries the whole team. It's better to see Jazz be like that compared to relying only on 1-man as their main scorer.
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September 02, 2022, 05:46:42 PM
The Lakers today seem to be close to making a deal that will get rid of Russell Westbrook and get them Mike Conley...  I'm not sure how they plan to pull off this wizardry but apparently they're getting close enough for people to be making reports about it.  Granted Mike Conley isn't exactly a young guy either, but his game is less centered around athleticism so it might be a step in the right direction for the Lakers.  Although not ideal...
I read that Bojan Bogdanovic is also eligible so they may be enough for the Westbrook trade. Maybe the Jazz could add one or two future draft picks and the deal will be sealed.

I honestly think Lakers would be lucky to have Mike and Bojan since nobody really wanted Russ at the price they were asking.
I don't see any logic why Jazz would push for this trade after letting go of Mitchell. It just doesn't make sense to replace him unless they will give Lakers a player of lesser value.

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September 02, 2022, 05:27:59 PM
is the Cavaliers now more ready in the playoffs? Last season they have an impressive run but fall short, and now that they have Mitchell, maybe we will see some big improvement especially in the playoffs.

As far as the competition in the Eastern Conference is concerned, Cleveland Cavaliers might now improved their chance of getting in the playoffs next season especially since we know how Donovan Mitchell plays and his impact on his former team, the Utah Jazz. Although those being shipped from Cavaliers to Jazz in exchange for Mitchell plays a big role in their impressive last year's performance, it should be covered by the former Jazz cager.

About the Jazz, no more Gobert and Mitchell, who will lead the team? Clarkson?

Since the Jazz is rebuilding, expect new plays, roles, and adjustments from this team. We don't know yet who will lead the team in most cases.
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September 02, 2022, 05:23:07 PM
About the Jazz, no more Gobert and Mitchell, who will lead the team? Clarkson?

Since the Jazz management decided to radically rebuild the team, I wouldn't be surprised if they also traded Clarkson and other players like Rudy Gay. In any case, I think we shouldn't expect any impressive results from the Jazz this coming season. Moreover, it's unlikely they'll be able to reach the playoffs or play-in tournament in the next few seasons.

Jordan Clarkson will soon be traded and chances are he will not be a Jazz at the start of the new season. It's a overhaul for them, and there will be no veterans to lead them.

On the other hand they will get this in the future for trading Gobert and Mitchell.

* Seven unprotected first round picks
* Three first round pick swaps

So we will see if Danny Ainge is a genius or not.

For sure that will happen because Jazz organization wants more picks since they want to overhaul their team and this is totally good for them because they can get a quality players on next following season. And its not relevant for those veteran to stay on their current team so if they get good offers for sure they will get it as they are in deep rebuilding process.
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September 02, 2022, 05:10:16 PM
About the Jazz, no more Gobert and Mitchell, who will lead the team? Clarkson?

Since the Jazz management decided to radically rebuild the team, I wouldn't be surprised if they also traded Clarkson and other players like Rudy Gay. In any case, I think we shouldn't expect any impressive results from the Jazz this coming season. Moreover, it's unlikely they'll be able to reach the playoffs or play-in tournament in the next few seasons.

Jordan Clarkson will soon be traded and chances are he will not be a Jazz at the start of the new season. It's a overhaul for them, and there will be no veterans to lead them.

On the other hand they will get this in the future for trading Gobert and Mitchell.

* Seven unprotected first round picks
* Three first round pick swaps

So we will see if Danny Ainge is a genius or not.
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September 02, 2022, 04:18:13 PM
What do you think the trade would result?

https://www.si.com/nba/2022/09/01/donovan-mitchell-traded-to-cavaliers-per-report

is the Cavaliers now more ready in the playoffs? Last season they have an impressive run but fall short, and now that they have Mitchell, maybe we will see some big improvement especially in the playoffs.

About the Jazz, no more Gobert and Mitchell, who will lead the team? Clarkson?

They are certainly better now by having Mitchell on the team. Do you think this improvement will be sufficient to make a difference? In the end, only time will tell what will happen. As far as I am concerned, this should be a significant improvement. I also think that the team is going to be able to play more confidently from now on as well.

I am really indecisive when it comes to Utah. In the future, I do not know what is going to happen to them. Mitchell used to be a star player for the team, but he is no longer part of the team. It would be interesting to know how that position is going to be filled in the future.


Regards

Duke

For the cavs it made sense, they are a lot closer to a competing team than the Knicks aare.  They have the right pieces in place and Mitchell might put them over the edge to get them to a top 3 team in the East which is the goal.  They mortgaged their future but they can't afford to wait their team is ready now.  That's the difference with the Knicks team.
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September 02, 2022, 04:16:04 PM
About the Jazz, no more Gobert and Mitchell, who will lead the team? Clarkson?

Since the Jazz management decided to radically rebuild the team, I wouldn't be surprised if they also traded Clarkson and other players like Rudy Gay. In any case, I think we shouldn't expect any impressive results from the Jazz this coming season. Moreover, it's unlikely they'll be able to reach the playoffs or play-in tournament in the next few seasons.

That's what the rumors is also telling us, Clarkson, Rudy Gay, Mike Conley and Bogdan. It will be a complete turn around for Utah this season including a new coach.

And there are teams that already signify their interest on Clarkson already, including the Lakers, Dallas and Sixers. He is really a valuable player to which team he is going to be traded with. And probably if this happens, then Utah will definitely tank this season and probably not reach the playoffs.
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September 02, 2022, 03:16:53 PM
Honestly even though Beverley is not a great player, that type of player was needed for Lakers for sure, in fact he would be even better fit than Westbrook to Lakers, not because he is a better player, we all know he is a worse player, but he is a better fit to play with Lebron and AD.

Now Lakers could easily send Westbrook away, and get something in return, I really don't care what or who, but they look like they don't want to send Westbrook, which is mind boggling. If they keep westbrook this year, that means the GM and all of staff in there have no idea how to run an organization, the idea of getting him was bad from start, to keep him is even worse.
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September 02, 2022, 02:34:08 PM
About the Jazz, no more Gobert and Mitchell, who will lead the team? Clarkson?

Since the Jazz management decided to radically rebuild the team, I wouldn't be surprised if they also traded Clarkson and other players like Rudy Gay. In any case, I think we shouldn't expect any impressive results from the Jazz this coming season. Moreover, it's unlikely they'll be able to reach the playoffs or play-in tournament in the next few seasons.
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September 02, 2022, 02:27:19 PM
The Lakers today seem to be close to making a deal that will get rid of Russell Westbrook and get them Mike Conley...  I'm not sure how they plan to pull off this wizardry but apparently they're getting close enough for people to be making reports about it.  Granted Mike Conley isn't exactly a young guy either, but his game is less centered around athleticism so it might be a step in the right direction for the Lakers.  Although not ideal...
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September 02, 2022, 02:16:02 PM
What do you think the trade would result?

https://www.si.com/nba/2022/09/01/donovan-mitchell-traded-to-cavaliers-per-report

is the Cavaliers now more ready in the playoffs? Last season they have an impressive run but fall short, and now that they have Mitchell, maybe we will see some big improvement especially in the playoffs.

About the Jazz, no more Gobert and Mitchell, who will lead the team? Clarkson?
I think I saw this trade and there were too many players involved just for Donovan Mitchell to go to the Cavaliers.

For the Jazz, there's still Clarkson and Beverley but I don't think that they'll still be the same as the last seasons. IIRC, the last seasons for them have been one of the best.

But this time, maybe it's a different story then.
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September 02, 2022, 01:59:24 PM
What do you think the trade would result?

https://www.si.com/nba/2022/09/01/donovan-mitchell-traded-to-cavaliers-per-report

is the Cavaliers now more ready in the playoffs? Last season they have an impressive run but fall short, and now that they have Mitchell, maybe we will see some big improvement especially in the playoffs.

About the Jazz, no more Gobert and Mitchell, who will lead the team? Clarkson?

They are certainly better now by having Mitchell on the team. Do you think this improvement will be sufficient to make a difference? In the end, only time will tell what will happen. As far as I am concerned, this should be a significant improvement. I also think that the team is going to be able to play more confidently from now on as well.

I am really indecisive when it comes to Utah. In the future, I do not know what is going to happen to them. Mitchell used to be a star player for the team, but he is no longer part of the team. It would be interesting to know how that position is going to be filled in the future.


Regards

Duke
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