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Quote from: Natalim on August 31, 2022, 07:07:03 AM

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If AD avoids any major injury this season, I believe the Lakers could successfully run this roster again next season.

That's right, actually even if Westbrook were struggling last season but as long as AD were healthy, most likely Lakers will still have a shot in the NBA finals. With Lebron and AD leading the team, we've seen that before already when they won a championship.

Next season is going to be the last chance of this tamdem I believe, if they will still fail, most likely a trade is gonna happen.

The question right now is what are the chances that AD will not get injured? Because after the title that he got in the Bubble, he has been very inconsistent and unreliable because of injuries. He's very fragile that you can't rely on him. I'll just hope for him to be healthy all throughout the season and in the playoffs but will not be surprised if he will get injured because it is what is happening to him for the last 2 seasons.

The chances of the Lakers winning a title will be higher if AD will not get injured and Westbrook will improve and adjust. I believe that Lebron can still win a title with the Lakers. Just give him good teammates that will help him. I agree that this upcoming season will be the last chance not only for AD but also for Westbrook and if they still fail then they will be traded.

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Quote from: harizen on August 31, 2022, 06:44:51 PM

Quote from: Natalim on August 31, 2022, 07:07:03 AM

That's right, actually even if Westbrook were struggling last season but as long as AD were healthy, most likely Lakers will still have a shot in the NBA finals. With Lebron and AD leading the team, we've seen that before already when they won a championship.

That makes sense and I'm with it. Yes, we can't hide the fact that Westbrook is struggling but we can't really just point that as a reason why Los Angeles Lakers suffers last season. Anthony Davis is consistent but the problem is, he becomes soft. How many games did he just play last season? LeBron James is also being sidelined for several games and that's understandable. Their bench is not even deep and all their supporting cast are not consistent. Westbrook can't carry anymore a team as he did in OKC. Can't be compared too to the capability of LeBron carrying a team.

That's why I believed trading Westbrook won't be the key to saving the Lakers from being sh*t last season.

Today's rumor is that they're trying to find a trading partner in the Spurs to take Westbrook off their hands. The Lakers seem prepared to eat his salary and cut him if they can't find a place to dump him and are even willing to package picks to make it happen. I'm sure there's an owner around the league somewhere who is willing to pay $40 million for 2 draft picks or a trade they can get into. We'll find out who soon I suspect.

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Quote from: Natalim on August 31, 2022, 07:07:03 AM

That's right, actually even if Westbrook were struggling last season but as long as AD were healthy, most likely Lakers will still have a shot in the NBA finals. With Lebron and AD leading the team, we've seen that before already when they won a championship.

That makes sense and I'm with it. Yes, we can't hide the fact that Westbrook is struggling but we can't really just point that as a reason why Los Angeles Lakers suffers last season. Anthony Davis is consistent but the problem is, he becomes soft. How many games did he just play last season? LeBron James is also being sidelined for several games and that's understandable. Their bench is not even deep and all their supporting cast are not consistent. Westbrook can't carry anymore a team as he did in OKC. Can't be compared too to the capability of LeBron carrying a team.

That's why I believed trading Westbrook won't be the key to saving the Lakers from being sh*t last season.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on August 31, 2022, 04:48:23 PM

....Donovan Mitchell is the type of player you have in a championship level team, not all by himself but he could be a second or at least third option. Westbrook could be a great deal for this, you could give westbrook and some picks and whatever, which will help Utah rebuild and would give Lakers a great player instead.

Sounds like you're saying Westbrook will be the new face of Jazz. He had a good stint at Wizards as the man leading the team but I don't think he's that better than Mitchell in taking the Jazz to a higher level. It's likely that he'll be traded again once Danny Ainge gets his new players and draft picks from the Knicks.

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Quote from: Jating on August 31, 2022, 03:42:25 PM

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We've got some rumors about Carmelo Anthony. He's likely to go with the Boston Celtics. He's a potential signee for them.

I thought he will go to the Knicks, not sure how he will fit in Boston though, probably what he has given to the Lakers, off the bench and then maybe had a good shooting night, 20+ ppg in he stay with them throughout the season. And it's good to see still play and the Celtics need a veteran like him in the bench.

Many rumors are coming out about him and this is the latest one. Well, I think wherever he goes, Knicks, Celtics, or Lakers, he's good with any of those teams and his fans will just follow him wherever he is.

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While the recent news about Gallinari's going to Boston, there's the most recent news that he's got injured and that's why Melo is being considered for a potential contract.

Yeah, I thought it was not that bad, but it seems worst than we expect or at least what the Boston see. It is a torn meniscus he got from FIBA qualifying playing for his native country Italy.

That's why there's a possible entry for Melo on Celtics and they're not doing a bad deal either with Melo.

So for Melo, it's just a win-win for him wherever he goes and we just want him to be there and still playing with any team that signs him.

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We've got some rumors about Carmelo Anthony. He's likely to go with the Boston Celtics. He's a potential signee for them.

While the recent news about Gallinari's going to Boston, there's the most recent news that he's got injured and that's why Melo is being considered for a potential contract.

Yeah, it looks like the Celtics were unlucky with Gallinari as they only signed a contract with him in July, but he has already managed to get seriously injured. As for Melo, I think he is still a great scorer and can be useful to any team. So the Celtics management will make the right decision if they decide to sign him. Although I'd rather see him in Lakers uniform again.

No problem in terms of scoring because Melo could provide that so most provably he is a good addition on Celtics since he will be a good fit on their system knowikg that they need perimeter shooters on their rooster. They just need to work out their defense since most provably Melo will struggle on this end and maybe other team will this as their weakness inside the court.

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Mitchell doesn't really want "out" of Jazz, that is just a product of the rebuilding process they are getting into. Which means that Mitchell has no purpose in there, so both the team and him have an understanding that the team wasn't doing good and didn't look like they would make a big change, so in the end they just went different roads.

Donovan Mitchell is the type of player you have in a championship level team, not all by himself but he could be a second or at least third option. Westbrook could be a great deal for this, you could give westbrook and some picks and whatever, which will help Utah rebuild and would give Lakers a great player instead.

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Quote from: jossiel on August 31, 2022, 12:46:05 PM

We've got some rumors about Carmelo Anthony. He's likely to go with the Boston Celtics. He's a potential signee for them.

While the recent news about Gallinari's going to Boston, there's the most recent news that he's got injured and that's why Melo is being considered for a potential contract.

Yeah, it looks like the Celtics were unlucky with Gallinari as they only signed a contract with him in July, but he has already managed to get seriously injured. As for Melo, I think he is still a great scorer and can be useful to any team. So the Celtics management will make the right decision if they decide to sign him. Although I'd rather see him in Lakers uniform again.

Well, Carmelo was a fan favorite when he was with the Lakers, and he did actually good with them, and I see some post that Carmelo had like 5 or more games wherein he scored 20+ more points as a Lakers. Unfortunately, the management decided not to offer him another contract. And then reports in the last couple of days that he might sign with the Knicks. But now we are hearing another good team interested on him, and that is the Boston Celtics, so good news for Carmelo Anthony fans, at least we can see him play again this season.

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Quote from: jossiel on August 31, 2022, 12:46:05 PM

We've got some rumors about Carmelo Anthony. He's likely to go with the Boston Celtics. He's a potential signee for them.

While the recent news about Gallinari's going to Boston, there's the most recent news that he's got injured and that's why Melo is being considered for a potential contract.

Yeah, it looks like the Celtics were unlucky with Gallinari as they only signed a contract with him in July, but he has already managed to get seriously injured. As for Melo, I think he is still a great scorer and can be useful to any team. So the Celtics management will make the right decision if they decide to sign him. Although I'd rather see him in Lakers uniform again.

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Quote from: jossiel on August 31, 2022, 12:46:05 PM

We've got some rumors about Carmelo Anthony. He's likely to go with the Boston Celtics. He's a potential signee for them.

I thought he will go to the Knicks, not sure how he will fit in Boston though, probably what he has given to the Lakers, off the bench and then maybe had a good shooting night, 20+ ppg in he stay with them throughout the season. And it's good to see still play and the Celtics need a veteran like him in the bench.

Quote from: jossiel on August 31, 2022, 12:46:05 PM

While the recent news about Gallinari's going to Boston, there's the most recent news that he's got injured and that's why Melo is being considered for a potential contract.

Yeah, I thought it was not that bad, but it seems worst than we expect or at least what the Boston see. It is a torn meniscus he got from FIBA qualifying playing for his native country Italy.

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Quote from: FanEagle on August 31, 2022, 12:11:53 AM

Everyone is once again waiting for Westbrook to have a change, but we all know what type of basketball player he is. It doesn't mean that he is a bad one, he just doesn't fit in with Lakers. I really hope that Lakers trade him, and gave whoever they have to. Because, one more star and 10 other bad players would be god enough to actually get them further.

You can count me in as I'm also waiting for Westbrook's possible change this upcoming season, it's still too early to tell that he doesn't really fit in the Lakers system because we only saw his for a year. I mean, one bad season doesn't define the player as he still has the chance to come back strong and as for Westbrook's situation, he better be back strong because this season is his last judgment.

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We've got some rumors about Carmelo Anthony. He's likely to go with the Boston Celtics. He's a potential signee for them.

While the recent news about Gallinari's going to Boston, there's the most recent news that he's got injured and that's why Melo is being considered for a potential contract.

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One thing the Utah Jazz have at the moment is they are not in a hurry for a Mitchell trade. I was surprised they haven't accepted that offer from New York which for me was already good. Mitchell is still very young and his contract just started which makes the Jazz unpressured. And if the Jazz can take higher picks in the next draft then it may also persuade Mitchell to just stay provided management will start building around them.

I also find it hard for the Lakers to acquire Mitchell via the Westbrook trade since the earlier offer from New York is still better.

Indeed that's true. They are not in a hurry, it's not like Mitchell is a burden to them. It almost looked like an experiment to see what options they could receive if ever they put him on the market. Now, they know he is still of so much value that other teams will absorb him and offer a good trade.

Mitchell wants out of Utah though. Like most of the current NBA players' mentality, nobody wants to waste time playing in a rebuilding team. Good point though, especially if you're a star player with high potential. Gone are the old days when most players were loyal to their teams.

So this reminded me of what could have happened if Lebron remained at Cleveland. I believe it was Brandon Haywood signing with another team that sealed the fate. Lebron's leaving since Cleveland doesn't have a reliable center for the next season anymore. Provided Lebron stayed. Will he be able to take 4 rings? Can he bring the Cavaliers to 10 championship finals?

As far as I am concerned, I think Mitchell made the right decision by leaving Utah. There is no doubt that Utah will not want to do it and let him go, so he won't be able to do it. He is one of the most promising players on the team, as well as one of the most accomplished players on the team. It is very important for Utah to have Mitchell on its team. My opinion is that Utah is not going to be able to replace him with a good candidate. That is one of the reasons why I think they would not want him to move out of the team. However, the offer from New York was a good one. In spite of this, it seems like Utah is still browsing.

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Quote from: harizen on August 30, 2022, 06:59:32 PM

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I agree, let's say we give Westbrook a chance this season, if he improve under coach Ham then good for the Lakers. If not, then for sure in the middle of the season we might see him get traded. And there are rumors that Ham wanted Pat and Russ play at the same time. So it will be an interesting combination to see them both in the floor. Two high octane players, gonna be fun.

I think Los Angeles Lakers are always open to giving Westbrook a chance.

However, if things really not worked out and they see Westbrook is really struggling in his role or anything, it will be hard for the Lakers to trade him in the middle of the season as here in the off-season, they can't even find a good trade package from other teams. Maybe much more difficult during the off-season.

If they will decide to keep Westbrook, they should risk on him the whole season and just work on trading him the next off-season.

The whole league and other teams will be watching Westbrook's performance this coming season, if he turns out to be much more effective then the Lakers could get some teams that are interested on him but the management should keep him because he is starting to show progress that could help the team achieve another ring.

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If they will decide to keep Westbrook, they should risk on him the whole season and just work on trading him the next off-season.

The Lakers don't have to work anything like trading him because Westbrook will be in the free-agency once the 22-23 seasons ends. If they decide to keep him then that means keeping him the whole season.

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I'd say that he is still worth the chance to prove his capabilities this coming season and have the same faith that coach Darvin Ham gave to him. We never know, Westbrook might be more effective this time because he knew that this is his last chance to prove his worthiness in the league as this is his last season too before he lands in free agency.

Of course, Westbrook still has a chance to prove to all the haters and team management that he can still be effective throughout the season. However, it will be very hard for him both mentally and physically. To be honest, I'm leaning toward the fact that the upcoming season may be the last time in Westbrook's career that he gets such a huge paycheck.

It's hard for Westbrook part last season because we know how emotionally hard for him to be part of Lakers especially all of the blame comes to him that's why his game change and he's totally affected by all of bashing. Next season he need to prove to his haters that his still a all star caliber and he's worth all the dime he receive thru his contract. It will be his last season to get huge payment if he cannot produce a good performance next season so he need to work hard on this.

That's right, he became the main reason and took all the bashing why the Lakers haven't reached far enough last season because he is not playing effectively in his given role. I see that Westbrook really tried hard but it seems like it's really hard for him transitioning from the main baller to being a supportive role to AD and Lebron.

Well, Westbrook has been silent since the season ended and he may be undergoing intensive training to be more effective this coming season and give the Lakers the puzzle they've been missing all this time. We never know, right?

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Quote from: inthelongrun on August 31, 2022, 04:51:48 AM

Mitchell wants out of Utah though. Like most of the current NBA players' mentality, nobody wants to waste time playing in a rebuilding team. Good point though, especially if you're a star player with high potential. Gone are the old days when most players were loyal to their teams.

Oh, you are right. I forgot that. Thanks for reminding me. He has a reason to be out, he ain't near being a veteran to take care of the rebuilding unit. He is still on his way to being a big impact on one team and making a chance for a championship. There's a chance we won't even see the Jazz in the playoffs next season and it won't be good for his upward career.

Quote from: inthelongrun on August 31, 2022, 04:51:48 AM

So this reminded me of what could have happened if Lebron remained at Cleveland. I believe it was Brandon Haywood signing with another team that sealed the fate. Lebron's leaving since Cleveland doesn't have a reliable center for the next season anymore. Provided Lebron stayed. Will he be able to take 4 rings? Can he bring the Cavaliers to 10 championship finals?

I believe he can, provided that the Cavaliers management will also be good at him providing roleplayers that will best reflect his skills.
Like their roster now, try to insert Lebron James there.

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Quote from: Natalim on August 31, 2022, 07:07:03 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on August 31, 2022, 06:43:39 AM

If AD avoids any major injury this season, I believe the Lakers could successfully run this roster again next season.

That's right, actually even if Westbrook were struggling last season but as long as AD were healthy, most likely Lakers will still have a shot in the NBA finals. With Lebron and AD leading the team, we've seen that before already when they won a championship.

Next season is going to be the last chance of this tamdem I believe, if they will still fail, most likely a trade is gonna happen.

^ We have seen AD and LeBron James basically carry that team before but I highly doubt that it is capable of doing so every time. And the other players will have to rise to the occasion when the team requires them. I really want Westbrook to perform well. Because the team is going to need him too.

Quote from: carlisle1 on August 31, 2022, 07:54:34 AM

With their current lineup now, it would be too difficult, but yes, as long as AD is healthy and he will be there to anchor their offense

the chance of winning each game is high. AD is a legit star and together with LeBron and Westbrook, maybe they can rally and make their

trio be more competitive, last season is not good because of those major injuries with LeBron and AD but if the management utilizes them

and give them enough rest. It will going to be an interesting season for the Lakers.

^ Since LeBron James and AD have previously been injured, I expect the Lakers to play them in highly competitive matches.
In addition, they will have to rest them properly when they face off against easier opponents.
Because if these two players are fit to play throughout the whole season, the Lakers are going to have favorable results. But if they get injured, it could be a problem.
Westbrook is not dependable right now.

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Quote from: Natalim on August 31, 2022, 07:07:03 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on August 31, 2022, 06:43:39 AM

If AD avoids any major injury this season, I believe the Lakers could successfully run this roster again next season.

That's right, actually even if Westbrook were struggling last season but as long as AD were healthy, most likely Lakers will still have a shot in the NBA finals. With Lebron and AD leading the team, we've seen that before already when they won a championship.

Next season is going to be the last chance of this tamdem I believe, if they will still fail, most likely a trade is gonna happen.

With their current lineup now, it would be too difficult, but yes, as long as AD is healthy and he will be there to anchor their offense

the chance of winning each game is high. AD is a legit star and together with LeBron and Westbrook, maybe they can rally and make their

trio be more competitive, last season is not good because of those major injuries with LeBron and AD but if the management utilizes them

and give them enough rest. It will going to be an interesting season for the Lakers.

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Quote from: Oasisman on August 31, 2022, 06:43:39 AM

If AD avoids any major injury this season, I believe the Lakers could successfully run this roster again next season.

That's right, actually even if Westbrook were struggling last season but as long as AD were healthy, most likely Lakers will still have a shot in the NBA finals. With Lebron and AD leading the team, we've seen that before already when they won a championship.

Next season is going to be the last chance of this tamdem I believe, if they will still fail, most likely a trade is gonna happen.

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I agree, let's say we give Westbrook a chance this season, if he improve under coach Ham then good for the Lakers. If not, then for sure in the middle of the season we might see him get traded. And there are rumors that Ham wanted Pat and Russ play at the same time. So it will be an interesting combination to see them both in the floor. Two high octane players, gonna be fun.

I think Los Angeles Lakers are always open to giving Westbrook a chance.

However, if things really not worked out and they see Westbrook is really struggling in his role or anything, it will be hard for the Lakers to trade him in the middle of the season as here in the off-season, they can't even find a good trade package from other teams. Maybe much more difficult during the off-season.

If they will decide to keep Westbrook, they should risk on him the whole season and just work on trading him the next off-season.

I believe the Lakers management wants Westbrook to go and be traded but Darvin Ham is saying opposite because we can remember that he wants Westbrook to stay because this new head coach has other plans that's why he is taking a stand to keep Westbrook. If only the Lakers has more things to offer for a trade then I bet Westbrook was already traded but they can't because they can't risk their future drafts as well.

I'm kind of curious though what Darvin Ham's strategy for Westbrook, so I guess we will see it soon. But if in any case that plan fails, the Laker's have Patrick to take take Westbrook's role.

They are setting the tone between their rooster and maybe they are experimenting if Pat and Westbrook can work together since if one of then fail to provide quality numbers according to their role then maybe its up for them to adjust and pick who among them will be better on starting spot. But feel confuse why Lakers get Pat and trade their future maybe from this action they struggle for next season because they trade their talented young players.

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