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Quote from: kro55 on August 25, 2022, 12:13:50 AM

I think what the Knicks offered for Donovan Mitchell was reasonable. As compared to what they are being offered for Donovan Mitchell, the Jazz want a significant upgrade over what they are being offered now.

It's crazy how Utah Jazz is still rejecting New York Knicks' offer for Mitchell. Was it 5 future draft picks already? Plus a young Toppin who's still very useful in case the Jazz is playoffs-ready in 3 years or more.

Meanwhile, super rich Los Angeles Lakers is still hoping for some trades and acquisitions before the season starts. Another target for them is Buddy Hield whom Lebron also wanted even before.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 25, 2022, 02:16:20 AM

^ I can’t imagine Westbrook and Beverly getting along. If Russell had any part in a trade not happening before, he certainly would want out now. I think Beverly is an upgrade from THT though and a good move for the Lakers. It doesn’t do anything to solve their Westbrook contract problem though.

I think I'm imagining a Westbrook rule out? Seems the trades are getting interesting as it's closer and closer to the regular season and it's not that long though. If they can work it out then probably that will be good but if not, I don't think that they should continue to build that chemistry. Pat Bev can improve their defense though in my opinion.

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So, if they built a team where it is Kyrie-Seth-Harris-KD-Simmons five out there, which would be very difficult because it lacks center but they can just rest one of them and put a center in there and just change whoever is resting, that way they will always have 1 center, 1 amazing passer Simmons, and 3 shooters at all times. That's a team that can fight for a title with the right coach if you ask me.

Kyrie Irving and Seth Curry shouldn't be on the same floor most of the time. Seth is more suited up for being a backup Point Guard for Irving. Ben Simmons though can handle the PG position like in his Philadelphia 76ers tenure but looking at Brooklyn's roster, I see that he is more suited up as a Shooting Guard and a backcourt duo for Kyrie Irving.

There's no question about the performance of Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, and Ben Simmons. They are all good and explosive. However, since these 3 are known "divas" in their own way, I hope Coach Steve Nash will be able to handle these 3 properly wherein we can see the cooperation of these said players to their coach. Especially Durant, there's surely an awkward relationship now between him and his coach.

Anyhow, I know they are professional and will do their best for the team.

Maybe Seth will be better paired with Ben, while KD and Kyrie stay at their own pace. There's already chemistry built on both of those pairs so it won't be a problem for them. Now the question is if Coach Nash would like to mix things up. NBA is a battle of being unpredictable and I would like to see how far they will be willing to take once they are mixed. It should be good. They should probably test it at the start of the season and see if it can be worked out. Who knows, maybe old Nets fans will be back cheering at them. Grin

The failed trade of Durant is now being compared to what happened with Kobe during his 2007 trade request.
They even went far as the Brooklyn Nets may also get a championship if history will be repeated. 2009 is when Kobe achieved another championship with Pau, Odom, Artest (Metta World Peace), Fisher, Bynum, and more.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 25, 2022, 12:16:29 AM

I know NBA fans here talked too much about the Lakers in the past but now, we aren't hearing from them anymore aside from Lebron signing a 2 year deal.

The current laker roster doesn't look too good, I do think Lakers will be performing terrible this upcoming season. Besides if Anthony Davis continues to be prone to injury he will be a big liability in the long-run.
I also think Patrick Beverly trade is good for the team since he can offer good defence while they let Westbrook or Lebron rest during the games.

Quote from: OgNasty on August 25, 2022, 02:16:20 AM

^ I can’t imagine Westbrook and Beverly getting along. If Russell had any part in a trade not happening before, he certainly would want out now. I think Beverly is an upgrade from THT though and a good move for the Lakers. It doesn’t do anything to solve their Westbrook contract problem though.

According to Pat Bev he said he would want to play with Westbrook and Lebron if they dont have any chemistry they can not let them play both at the same time.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 25, 2022, 12:16:29 AM

I know NBA fans here talked too much about the Lakers in the past but now, we aren't hearing from them anymore aside from Lebron signing a 2 year deal.
Now the Lakers traded Talen Horton Tucker and forward Stanley Johnson for the veteran Patrick Beverley.

https://sportsnaut.com/los-angeles-lakers-patrick-beverley-trade/

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According to Shams Charania of The Athletic, Beverley is headed back to Southren California in exchange for Talen Horton-Tucker. Other reports suggest that veteran forward Stanley Johnson is also headed to Salt Lake.

Lebron and Beverley had some trash talks in the past. Same goes for Westbrook and Beverley. Do you think that he is a good fit for the Lakers. For me, the Jazz won here big time because THT got a new team already. THT isn't that explosive with his stint with the Lakers so him going to other team might be a new opportunity for him to showcase his talents. I'm curious how will PatBev fit with the Lakers Undecided

Patrick Beverley is a good stopper Lakers can use him for that role, while they will might try to blend

LeBron,AD and Westbrook, they need defense and that might be the job for Beverly. in regard to THT, we've seen him contributing
when LeBron or AD is sitting, he adds up good numbers for Lakers offense.

Moving to a new team which is also in the process of rebuilding might give him more minutes and more time to handle the ball
I mean, he can be used as the center of the offense. Him And JC would have a good combo.

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^ I can’t imagine Westbrook and Beverly getting along. If Russell had any part in a trade not happening before, he certainly would want out now. I think Beverly is an upgrade from THT though and a good move for the Lakers. It doesn’t do anything to solve their Westbrook contract problem though.

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Many didn't feel him during the last season. He really has to redeem himself and get back in shape for this season.

Because some critics are finding a way to criticize the Lakers. That treatment to Westbrook isn't that harsh when he was playing in Houston Rocket and Washington Wizards. There are just of people who don't like Lakers and Lebron James that's why these people are finding a way to always throw a bad impression at the whole Lakers. There are lots of issues that the Lakers faced but didn't highlight.

Anthony Davis, an injury prone, didn't even receive some backlash for being soft. Westbrook can't carry a team while AD and LBJ are not present.

Other than that fact, the people and the fans really expected the new roster of Lakers to be so dominant last season because the team are consist of All-Star players when in reality most of that All-Star player is not in their prime anymore. Moreover, they set up a high standard for Westbrook with almost no room for mistakes because of the stats he had in the past years.

And with the news that KD will be staying with the Nets, it means that Kyrie will not be traded as well. Lebron will also be stuck with Westbrook, so I guess after all the drama and fans waiting as to what will be the next move of both teams, there will be none after all. And I say it's good though, let them play the same roster this season and see how they are going to fare. Last season was a disaster, although the Nets went to the playoffs but was swept. It could be a burden for them to stay with their teams, or could be another motivation to show their critics.

Both said teams were trying to build a super team and none of them succeeded because they haven't established any chemistry at all as almost all players on both sides is a playmaker and used to be alpha before they got into Lebron's team. As far as I know, Lebron wanted to trade WB in exchange for Irving but that didn't happen because the Nets were giving a priority to Durant to be traded but that didn't happen as well, so it's quite safe to say that we'll be seeing the same roster this coming season.

Trade update: Talen Hourton-Tucker and Stanley Johnson have been traded for Patrick Beverley.
Now, things have gotten spicier for the Lakers because Pat Beverly and WB have a long-standing beef with each other. This might be a good trade though but let's see if WB and Pat Beverley can settle things aside.

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I know NBA fans here talked too much about the Lakers in the past but now, we aren't hearing from them anymore aside from Lebron signing a 2 year deal.
Now the Lakers traded Talen Horton Tucker and forward Stanley Johnson for the veteran Patrick Beverley.

https://sportsnaut.com/los-angeles-lakers-patrick-beverley-trade/

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According to Shams Charania of The Athletic, Beverley is headed back to Southren California in exchange for Talen Horton-Tucker. Other reports suggest that veteran forward Stanley Johnson is also headed to Salt Lake.

Lebron and Beverley had some trash talks in the past. Same goes for Westbrook and Beverley. Do you think that he is a good fit for the Lakers. For me, the Jazz won here big time because THT got a new team already. THT isn't that explosive with his stint with the Lakers so him going to other team might be a new opportunity for him to showcase his talents. I'm curious how will PatBev fit with the Lakers Undecided

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Quote from: dezoel on August 24, 2022, 04:38:04 PM

KD staying with nets is definitely something I would love to see. I mean they already didn't had a terrible team. Kyrie can shoot, KD we know can shoot very well, Joe Harris can shoot and Seth Curry can shoot, plus Ben Simmons can drive inside and pass out.

As usual, everyone is going to be interested to see how KD performs. Ultimately, they will be interested to see how the team performs as a whole. For me, it is good news that Kevin Durant is planning to stay. If they can play well together I think they will be able to achieve their goals. If I am not mistaken, all of these five players do not even like to play the position of center. Therefore, I think they will have to play the position of a center.

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Quote from: jossiel on August 24, 2022, 06:50:13 PM

It's actually a smooth feeling to read that news that the KD trade and rumors have come to an end. It's best for all of the teams that have been in the news that showed interest of taking him.
I guess the buzz made by the team will also give that huge benefit from having those ticket sales for the very first days and opening of the league again for the matches of Nets.

Yeah, probably it could be one of the most anticipated games in the opening of their franchise, with all the drama in the background, for sure they are going to be scrutinized by the basketball fans and public media so let's see.

Hopefully KD will just settle nicely and make the team what it supposed to be when he went in Brooklyn.
Now the trade shifts to Donovan Mitchell, all attention he is getting to be traded to New York.
Also there is rumor that Pat Bev will be a Laker in exchange of THT and Stanley Johnson.

@Dave1,
Kevin Durant will have a difficult time adjusting to the team, especially after he requested to be traded. But now he doesn’t have any choice but to stay with the team.

I think what the Knicks offered for Donovan Mitchell was reasonable. As compared to what they are being offered for Donovan Mitchell, the Jazz want a significant upgrade over what they are being offered now.

If I am not wrong, that Patrick Beverley rate was held up because of Kevin Durant/Kyrie's situation. He wanted to get the hell out of Utah. And yes it is confirmed that he is going to sign to the Lakers.

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Quote from: ingiltere on August 24, 2022, 06:40:36 AM

It looks like Kevin Durant stays in Brooklyn. I don't think he can give his %100 to this team as he wants Steve Nash and GM Sean Marks to leave but they are also staying. It's hard to work with people you don't get along well with. On the other hand, it's quite normal that other teams cannot get him when he has such a loaded contract. If Kyrie also stays then no rebuilding for Nets this season. They have to do their best to reach higher places in play-offs, maybe one last time.

I don't think Durant will turn out like that. He's being paid and that's out of respect if he will not give his 100% on the game because of the issue. He might also lose some of his endorsement and no team will be interested in him if he will behave like that while playing for the Nets.

In the first place, Durant will not agree to stay in Brooklyn Nets if no peace negotiation happened between him and Steve Nash/Sean Marks. At least, they solved a certain issue at both parties although time will just tell before the damage in a relationship will be completely fixed.

Yeah I don't think things will turn out like that either. Durant could have forced his way out and it had looked like that's exactly what he was going to do but didn't. When you're that good and dedicate that much time of your life to playing a sport, you're going to give it your all. I think the Nets should be pretty decent and he's going to go full bore.

It didn't because Tsai wanted more out of the trade and teams are not willing to do that for Durant or maybe they price themselves so that no buyers for him.

Maybe there is some peace negotiations with Steve Nash/Sean Marks and might bury their hatchet for the good of the organization. They still have a lot of chances to make it right though, the whole season to be exact. Currently they are still the 5th favorite as early as today to be the NBA champion behind Celtics, Warriors, Bucks and Clippers.

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Quote from: jossiel on August 24, 2022, 06:50:13 PM

Quote from: dezoel on August 24, 2022, 04:38:04 PM

KD staying with nets is definitely something I would love to see. I mean they already didn't had a terrible team. Kyrie can shoot, KD we know can shoot very well, Joe Harris can shoot and Seth Curry can shoot, plus Ben Simmons can drive inside and pass out.

It's actually a smooth feeling to read that news that the KD trade and rumors have come to an end. It's best for all of the teams that have been in the news that showed interest of taking him.

I guess the buzz made by the team will also give that huge benefit from having those ticket sales for the very first days and opening of the league again for the matches of Nets.

Yeah, probably it could be one of the most anticipated games in the opening of their franchise, with all the drama in the background, for sure they are going to be scrutinized by the basketball fans and public media so let's see.

Hopefully KD will just settle nicely and make the team what it supposed to be when he went in Brooklyn.

Now the trade shifts to Donovan Mitchell, all attention he is getting to be traded to New York.

Also there is rumor that Pat Bev will be a Laker in exchange of THT and Stanley Johnson.

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Quote from: jossiel on August 24, 2022, 06:50:13 PM

Quote from: dezoel on August 24, 2022, 04:38:04 PM

KD staying with nets is definitely something I would love to see. I mean they already didn't had a terrible team. Kyrie can shoot, KD we know can shoot very well, Joe Harris can shoot and Seth Curry can shoot, plus Ben Simmons can drive inside and pass out.

It's actually a smooth feeling to read that news that the KD trade and rumors have come to an end. It's best for all of the teams that have been in the news that showed interest of taking him.

I guess the buzz made by the team will also give that huge benefit from having those ticket sales for the very first days and opening of the league again for the matches of Nets.

Maybe a good advertising / marketing to have more interest from the fans knowing that KD will stay.

Or, it can backfire as annoyed fans might boycott him since he created that drama. But let's give the Nets another shot, mentioning those
info above gives fans a reason to watch them out.

We can't say if they'll be able to blend together and have a smooth season, all will be witness when they start making the plays and
see if there're sparks with both defense and offense.

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Quote from: ingiltere on August 24, 2022, 06:40:36 AM

It looks like Kevin Durant stays in Brooklyn. I don't think he can give his %100 to this team as he wants Steve Nash and GM Sean Marks to leave but they are also staying. It's hard to work with people you don't get along well with. On the other hand, it's quite normal that other teams cannot get him when he has such a loaded contract. If Kyrie also stays then no rebuilding for Nets this season. They have to do their best to reach higher places in play-offs, maybe one last time.

I don't think Durant will turn out like that. He's being paid and that's out of respect if he will not give his 100% on the game because of the issue. He might also lose some of his endorsement and no team will be interested in him if he will behave like that while playing for the Nets.

In the first place, Durant will not agree to stay in Brooklyn Nets if no peace negotiation happened between him and Steve Nash/Sean Marks. At least, they solved a certain issue at both parties although time will just tell before the damage in a relationship will be completely fixed.

Yeah I don't think things will turn out like that either. Durant could have forced his way out and it had looked like that's exactly what he was going to do but didn't. When you're that good and dedicate that much time of your life to playing a sport, you're going to give it your all. I think the Nets should be pretty decent and he's going to go full bore.

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Quote from: dezoel on August 24, 2022, 04:38:04 PM

KD staying with nets is definitely something I would love to see. I mean they already didn't had a terrible team. Kyrie can shoot, KD we know can shoot very well, Joe Harris can shoot and Seth Curry can shoot, plus Ben Simmons can drive inside and pass out.

It's actually a smooth feeling to read that news that the KD trade and rumors have come to an end. It's best for all of the teams that have been in the news that showed interest of taking him.

I guess the buzz made by the team will also give that huge benefit from having those ticket sales for the very first days and opening of the league again for the matches of Nets.

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Quote from: ingiltere on August 24, 2022, 06:40:36 AM

It looks like Kevin Durant stays in Brooklyn. I don't think he can give his %100 to this team as he wants Steve Nash and GM Sean Marks to leave but they are also staying. It's hard to work with people you don't get along well with. On the other hand, it's quite normal that other teams cannot get him when he has such a loaded contract. If Kyrie also stays then no rebuilding for Nets this season. They have to do their best to reach higher places in play-offs, maybe one last time.

I don't think Durant will turn out like that. He's being paid and that's out of respect if he will not give his 100% on the game because of the issue. He might also lose some of his endorsement and no team will be interested in him if he will behave like that while playing for the Nets.

In the first place, Durant will not agree to stay in Brooklyn Nets if no peace negotiation happened between him and Steve Nash/Sean Marks. At least, they solved a certain issue at both parties although time will just tell before the damage in a relationship will be completely fixed.

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Quote from: dezoel on August 24, 2022, 04:38:04 PM

So, if they built a team where it is Kyrie-Seth-Harris-KD-Simmons five out there, which would be very difficult because it lacks center but they can just rest one of them and put a center in there and just change whoever is resting, that way they will always have 1 center, 1 amazing passer Simmons, and 3 shooters at all times. That's a team that can fight for a title with the right coach if you ask me.

Kyrie Irving and Seth Curry shouldn't be on the same floor most of the time. Seth is more suited up for being a backup Point Guard for Irving. Ben Simmons though can handle the PG position like in his Philadelphia 76ers tenure but looking at Brooklyn's roster, I see that he is more suited up as a Shooting Guard and a backcourt duo for Kyrie Irving.

There's no question about the performance of Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, and Ben Simmons. They are all good and explosive. However, since these 3 are known "divas" in their own way, I hope Coach Steve Nash will be able to handle these 3 properly wherein we can see the cooperation of these said players to their coach. Especially Durant, there's surely an awkward relationship now between him and his coach.

Anyhow, I know they are professional and will do their best for the team.

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Quote from: dezoel on August 24, 2022, 04:38:04 PM

KD staying with nets is definitely something I would love to see. I mean they already didn't had a terrible team. Kyrie can shoot, KD we know can shoot very well, Joe Harris can shoot and Seth Curry can shoot, plus Ben Simmons can drive inside and pass out.

So, if they built a team where it is Kyrie-Seth-Harris-KD-Simmons five out there, which would be very difficult because it lacks center but they can just rest one of them and put a center in there and just change whoever is resting, that way they will always have 1 center, 1 amazing passer Simmons, and 3 shooters at all times. That's a team that can fight for a title with the right coach if you ask me.

Indeed that's good to see how KD and kyrie build up again the Nets and its another chance for them to shut off the mouth of people who doubt about their willingness to cooperate with their existing team due to their past controversy. Lets see how they can work well their chemistry since this is one thing lacking to them last season and if they can adjust with this for sure they are not an easy team to beat.

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KD staying with nets is definitely something I would love to see. I mean they already didn't had a terrible team. Kyrie can shoot, KD we know can shoot very well, Joe Harris can shoot and Seth Curry can shoot, plus Ben Simmons can drive inside and pass out.

So, if they built a team where it is Kyrie-Seth-Harris-KD-Simmons five out there, which would be very difficult because it lacks center but they can just rest one of them and put a center in there and just change whoever is resting, that way they will always have 1 center, 1 amazing passer Simmons, and 3 shooters at all times. That's a team that can fight for a title with the right coach if you ask me.

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Media reporting now that Durant has reached an agreement with Nets management and will be playing for the Brooklyn Nets this year. I imagine that means Kyrie is staying also so no LeBron Kyrie reunion. I think this is probably the best outcome for everyone, but I did want to see them stir up the league. Should be fun to watch anyway. Two more months…

It's funny to see how quickly Durant changes his mind. Let me remind you that he tried to put an ultimatum to the Nets' owner a couple of weeks ago, and now they somehow managed to reach some kind of agreement. Honestly, I think Durant has been acting a little weird this offseason, and he definitely deserves to get some boos from Nets fans during the first home game of the upcoming season.

Mind you, he will definitely be going to receive a lot of boos from the Nets fans for that egoistic action after all the Nets had done to him, especially that ultimatum, that was a risky move that by now he already realized that it was a huge mistake making Joe Tsai choose. He definitely thought hard after that action he made because he might have that contract as his last without re-sign as there's a chance that there's no team in the league that would want him.

Perhaps, but if he can turn the team around this year, for sure fans will forget everything. Similar to Lebron when he left the Cavs, we know what the flash mob did, burning his jerseys in the street of Cleveland. And when he comes back and play for the first time there are boos. But when he brought the city a championship, everyone forget about it. So I'm thinking the same scenario for Durant here, that is if he plays good this season as if the whole saga didn't happen.

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Yes, probably he'll retire in Lakers but that ain't sure as of now because he also said that he would follow his son to whichever team Bronny will fall. The good thing about Lebron is that he doesn't really rely on his talent alone because he knew that it wouldn't make him what he is today if he will just rely on his talent all the way, he added some extra recipe for him to be great and that is the dedication and hard work.

Maybe Lakers will bring Bronny to the team in respect to LeBron, not sure though what future will be for this father and Son journey

but it's something that NBA can treasure if both will be playing in one uniform and share talents inside the court. With the look of LeBron's

shape. He is still capable of playing for more than 2-years unless major injuries will happen before that, but if there's nothing as we know him

playing, he is good at taking good care of his health, so the chance is really possible.

That is if Bronny will fall into the Lakers hand if he'll get drafted by next year, but the Lebron and the management knows that there's a just a little probability that they could host the father and son wearing their jersey. In fact, Lebron won't have a hard time transferring to any other team in the league as any team in the NBA will be much happy to get Lebron and Bronny in their franchise and be part of the first time in history that there will be a father and son playing together professionally.

Bronny to the NBA is no sure fire thing. He is a fringe top 50 player in high-school, and tons of high school prospects can't handle the next level. If I had to bet I'd say bronny doesn't make it. Honestly his younger son will probably end up better than bronny. Bigger kid and frame then bronny already.

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