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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 28, 2022, 04:07:17 AM

It will still be Lebron, Davis and then WB. The rest of the supporting cast should perform as well and know their roles. It seems that last seson even their role players are out of sync. Howard was not good but just used sparingly by Vogel. For sure we will see a big difference and the system that Ham have in mind might work this time.

I'm not sure if Westbrook will stay, with the rumors around, it looks like Westbrook will be traded soon. One who season was given to him last season, and yet they still cannot even create a good chemistry, so what's the reason for keeping him if they cannot assure that their chemistry will improve.

I know Westbrook is good, but his individual talent is more valuable to him than being a team player, that's my observation.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 27, 2022, 03:55:36 PM

I think THT and Stanley Johnson would be worthless in the playoffs. Patrick Beverly at least has the potential to impact a high level game. If your goal is a championship, I think the Lakers are on the right side of that deal. If you’re just trying to stay competitive for cheap while you go through a rebuild, THT isn’t a bad pickup. He hasn’t lived up to the praise so far.

It's a Nets-like perspective. Win now. The Lakers are not in a building mode to save some young players and polish them. For now.
I think they want to maximize the chances while they still have Lebron paired with AD.
Although I disagree with my last post about this because I think THT is a future piece, you may be right if that's the case.
Let's expect more trades to happen from them as they try to build a championship team. Chemistry might not be a problem for veterans but they sure needs some speed in their roster.

They now see that keeping Westbrook for another season would still not result in their expectation. Yes, trading Westbrook will result to a better team, they will get more players and their defense will improve having Beverly. At least keep Lebron and Davis, that way they have a 2 punch combo that could destroy their opponent.

They have seen what went wrong with them last season (besides the injuries), so they have to beef up something in the defense department. Maybe they think that adding Pat will bring them on level up.

It will still be Lebron, Davis and then WB. The rest of the supporting cast should perform as well and know their roles. It seems that last seson even their role players are out of sync. Howard was not good but just used sparingly by Vogel. For sure we will see a big difference and the system that Ham have in mind might work this time.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 27, 2022, 11:55:16 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on August 27, 2022, 03:55:36 PM

I think THT and Stanley Johnson would be worthless in the playoffs. Patrick Beverly at least has the potential to impact a high level game. If your goal is a championship, I think the Lakers are on the right side of that deal. If you’re just trying to stay competitive for cheap while you go through a rebuild, THT isn’t a bad pickup. He hasn’t lived up to the praise so far.

It's a Nets-like perspective. Win now. The Lakers are not in a building mode to save some young players and polish them. For now.
I think they want to maximize the chances while they still have Lebron paired with AD.
Although I disagree with my last post about this because I think THT is a future piece, you may be right if that's the case.
Let's expect more trades to happen from them as they try to build a championship team. Chemistry might not be a problem for veterans but they sure needs some speed in their roster.

I don't know about THT the future of Lakers, I mean he is good but I doubt that he can turn out like what Brandon Ingram is or even Jordan Clarkson. Me as well thought that it 's good that they didn't include him the Westbrook trade, but then again last season it was just a neither very good nor very bad performance. And so the Lakers chooses that they can't wait any longer for him to developed with Lebron and AD and Westbrook still in their roster. He might turn out to be a great player though like the one a I mentioned but not that good when they are with the Lakers. It thanks someone to get out of the system and see how they grow.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 27, 2022, 09:12:56 PM

Maybe it was adrenaline pumping on is body that's why he didn't feel anything at the initial onset when he laid his feet on the ground, just limping. But the severity after is what really concern us fans because it was a season ending injury for him.

So for sure, part of his rehabilitation is to make his lower body train very hard so that he won't get any serious again when he plays. Although we all know that those who have this kind of injury can either return and make a huge comeback or their career stalls and never be the same player they used to be.

Yes, this is a plausible possibility... Depending on the player's situation, he may feel so much pain but sometimes not.

Anyway, he will need to prepare more to have a relevant performance in the NBA (a better preparation regarding his physique) Because he is a recent freshman coming from college basketball.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 27, 2022, 11:55:16 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on August 27, 2022, 03:55:36 PM

I think THT and Stanley Johnson would be worthless in the playoffs. Patrick Beverly at least has the potential to impact a high level game. If your goal is a championship, I think the Lakers are on the right side of that deal. If you’re just trying to stay competitive for cheap while you go through a rebuild, THT isn’t a bad pickup. He hasn’t lived up to the praise so far.

It's a Nets-like perspective. Win now. The Lakers are not in a building mode to save some young players and polish them. For now.
I think they want to maximize the chances while they still have Lebron paired with AD.
Although I disagree with my last post about this because I think THT is a future piece, you may be right if that's the case.
Let's expect more trades to happen from them as they try to build a championship team. Chemistry might not be a problem for veterans but they sure needs some speed in their roster.

They now see that keeping Westbrook for another season would still not result in their expectation. Yes, trading Westbrook will result to a better team, they will get more players and their defense will improve having Beverly. At least keep Lebron and Davis, that way they have a 2 punch combo that could destroy their opponent.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 27, 2022, 03:55:36 PM

I think THT and Stanley Johnson would be worthless in the playoffs. Patrick Beverly at least has the potential to impact a high level game. If your goal is a championship, I think the Lakers are on the right side of that deal. If you’re just trying to stay competitive for cheap while you go through a rebuild, THT isn’t a bad pickup. He hasn’t lived up to the praise so far.

It's a Nets-like perspective. Win now. The Lakers are not in a building mode to save some young players and polish them. For now.
I think they want to maximize the chances while they still have Lebron paired with AD.
Although I disagree with my last post about this because I think THT is a future piece, you may be right if that's the case.
Let's expect more trades to happen from them as they try to build a championship team. Chemistry might not be a problem for veterans but they sure needs some speed in their roster.

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Quote from: gagux123 on August 27, 2022, 05:28:53 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on August 26, 2022, 03:20:52 AM

Yes, I also saw the video and it seems that when he lands, everything looks ok, but the injury is worst than we though as he will be out for the whole season. Nothing is to blame though, it was really a freak accident, however, the damage is too severe for him. He is still very young and that is a good thing for him. So it might not be a career ending. As others have said, he need to add some mass and muscle so that he can at least avoid this kind of injuries in his lower bodies.

It's something unusual, because his injury was serious, but his reaction was not so ""desperate""

Because depending of the severity (injury), after the incident the person may cry, fall to the ground immediately and not even be able to walk. (Of course, every human being reacts and tolerates pain totally differently from other people, this is relative).

The reaction that Chet had after the incident apparently proved to be something "normal" during the game, I never thought it was something that serious.

Maybe it was adrenaline pumping on is body that's why he didn't feel anything at the initial onset when he laid his feet on the ground, just limping. But the severity after is what really concern us fans because it was a season ending injury for him.

So for sure, part of his rehabilitation is to make his lower body train very hard so that he won't get any serious again when he plays. Although we all know that those who have this kind of injury can either return and make a huge comeback or their career stalls and never be the same player they used to be.

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 26, 2022, 03:20:52 AM

Yes, I also saw the video and it seems that when he lands, everything looks ok, but the injury is worst than we though as he will be out for the whole season. Nothing is to blame though, it was really a freak accident, however, the damage is too severe for him. He is still very young and that is a good thing for him. So it might not be a career ending. As others have said, he need to add some mass and muscle so that he can at least avoid this kind of injuries in his lower bodies.

It's something unusual, because his injury was serious, but his reaction was not so ""desperate""

Because depending of the severity (injury), after the incident the person may cry, fall to the ground immediately and not even be able to walk. (Of course, every human being reacts and tolerates pain totally differently from other people, this is relative).

The reaction that Chet had after the incident apparently proved to be something "normal" during the game, I never thought it was something that serious.

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Quote from: Reid on August 27, 2022, 12:43:51 PM

Winner or loser?
Lakers receiving Patrick Beverley.

Its a win for Lakers because Pat Bev would offer defence which was the Lakers were lacking last season and if this trade forces Westbrook out then it would be a big win it could reduce the potential turnovers for the team.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 27, 2022, 03:27:26 PM

Quote from: Reid on August 27, 2022, 12:43:51 PM

Winner or loser?
Lakers receiving Patrick Beverley.
Utah Jazz receiving Talen Horton-Tucker and Stanley Johnson.

For now it's hard to speculate who is the winner in this trade, Pat is all experience and intensity, maybe they need this kind of player coming out of the bench.

As for the Jazz, they are obviously in the rebuilding phase, THT and Stanley Johnson might be a perfect fight. THT is a scorer and maybe him and Clarkson should be the spark plug coming of the bench. While Johnson, could developed to be a good defender like Royce O'Neale.

I think THT and Stanley Johnson would be worthless in the playoffs. Patrick Beverly at least has the potential to impact a high level game. If your goal is a championship, I think the Lakers are on the right side of that deal. If you’re just trying to stay competitive for cheap while you go through a rebuild, THT isn’t a bad pickup. He hasn’t lived up to the praise so far.

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Quote from: Reid on August 27, 2022, 12:43:51 PM

Winner or loser?
Lakers receiving Patrick Beverley.
Utah Jazz receiving Talen Horton-Tucker and Stanley Johnson.

For now it's hard to speculate who is the winner in this trade, Pat is all experience and intensity, maybe they need this kind of player coming out of the bench.

As for the Jazz, they are obviously in the rebuilding phase, THT and Stanley Johnson might be a perfect fight. THT is a scorer and maybe him and Clarkson should be the spark plug coming of the bench. While Johnson, could developed to be a good defender like Royce O'Neale.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 27, 2022, 12:43:03 PM

NBA News: Jeanie Buss Doesn't Mention Russell Westbrook When Discussing Lakers' Future
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-news-lakers-owner-accidentally-confirms-russell-westbrook-s-departure/ar-AA11aqWg?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7e70baa8438d4c28d1ddf1f7806670b6

This might not be huge news, but it is the writing on the wall. It sounds like if they can't find a deal for Russell Westbrook they may release him or just leave him inactive. The report mentions John Wall with the Rockets as a blueprint. I can't imagine that's the route they'd take and think they'll probably accept some lowball offer to get rid of his contract, which is probably the best move. There's still hope they can find a trading partner, but time is running out.

Yeah, Westbrook's huge contract is a problem for Lakers management, and it looks like Westbrook's relationship with the Lakers has finally deteriorated since the Lakers are ready to take him out of the rotation if they can't trade him. By the way, rumors about the Westbrook-for-Wall Trade have been around since the winter, but as we can see, negotiations on this deal were inconclusive because the Rockets wanted to get a few more draft picks from the Lakers.

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Quote from: harizen on August 26, 2022, 06:47:45 PM

Quote from: Reid on August 26, 2022, 09:21:35 AM

What I wish is for the kid Chet is to not let this become a mental problem. It's just an injury it will heal and he can still go back.
Lisfranc injury is said to take a year before it heals fully. That will mean we should not expect for him even if the OKC go far as post season.

Yes, he really should. Let the whole year be his comfort year to be fully prepared and healthy for next season.

Remember Joel Embiid, he was sidelined for 2 seasons after he was drafted by the Philadelphia Sixers. That's even worst since he might think he's already a burden to the team. That might affect his mentality too during that time to play hard once he gets back.

But now, looked at Embiid, showing monster performance every season. Chet should just take things easy and focus on his recovery.

That's a good example, thanks. I am more worried mentally than physically. He can come back we know that, but that's still a kid for me who needs more building in both. Different era, kids these days are prone to being criticized by a ton and they will know it with speed because of social media. I wish that won't affect him.

Winner or loser?
Lakers receiving Patrick Beverley.
Utah Jazz receiving Talen Horton-Tucker and Stanley Johnson.

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NBA News: Jeanie Buss Doesn't Mention Russell Westbrook When Discussing Lakers' Future
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-news-lakers-owner-accidentally-confirms-russell-westbrook-s-departure/ar-AA11aqWg?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7e70baa8438d4c28d1ddf1f7806670b6

This might not be huge news, but it is the writing on the wall. It sounds like if they can't find a deal for Russell Westbrook they may release him or just leave him inactive. The report mentions John Wall with the Rockets as a blueprint. I can't imagine that's the route they'd take and think they'll probably accept some lowball offer to get rid of his contract, which is probably the best move. There's still hope they can find a trading partner, but time is running out.

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Quote from: stadus on August 27, 2022, 06:50:03 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on August 27, 2022, 06:41:49 AM

I guess we are expecting too much from him, we know he is hype, but he is just a rookie, he might not even be playing with heavy minutes, so don't expect heavy production from him. All he needs to focus now is to recover from the injury so he will be 100% prepared for the next season.

I'm expecting that he will be a good candidate for the Rookie of the year, but his missing next season will put him out of the competition. Injury can happen anytime to anyone but it's bad if one of the potential star players will suffer from it, and worse is he will miss the entire season.

We all remember how Embiid missed his first season and dude actually didn't play much for all his first three seasons. He had zero games in the first 2 seasons and had only 30 games on his third season, so that is 10 games per season for 3 seasons averages basically.

Last year he scored 30+ ppg and that should show you that if a player is good then they are good, there isn't a single player that could have been amazing and became bad because they had just one injury, there are many that became injury prone and just kept on getting reinjured, but not because of one injury. Well, maybe a few that had grusome horrible ones like Livingston but he wasn't a superstar level anyway.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 27, 2022, 03:28:55 AM

That would be to the benefit of the Lakers if the trade will happen.

Turner could be a good backup for Davis or will play as a center, while Buddy Hield could help Lebron since he is an accurate shooter. Imagine, how big they are if that's the line considering the trade will happen.

This is just a rumor but I'm excited for this to be realized, maybe Westbrook does not really fit in a team that he is not the main man.

That would be a considerable upgrade to their team. Myles Turner is not a big guy on the paint anymore, he can shoot outside perimeter shots and also 3-pointers. It will be difficult to defend someone like him when put together with Anthony Davis. If it does happen, that's some scary Lakers will be watching next season. Lebron will be happy he will have a lot of options to pass the ball and I bet his APG will be higher as he focuses on being a point-forward.

Oh crap.
Timberwolves F Taurean Prince arrested on fugitive warrant over drug charge in Miami

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Police said they only charged Prince for carrying a weapon because of the illegal substances, as "it's illegal to carry a gun while engaging in a criminal offense" in Texas.

Why? What a mess.

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Quote from: stadus on August 27, 2022, 06:50:03 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on August 27, 2022, 06:41:49 AM

Quote from: Taskford on August 27, 2022, 06:17:21 AM

This also mean that he really need to work with his physique since basketball is physical sports and those veterans will surely hit him hard on the hard court. Also maybe from this he can minimize his critical injuries. This is unfortunate for him because he was so hype before season starts and I'm wondering now if he can still deliver good performance next season.

I guess we are expecting too much from him, we know he is hype, but he is just a rookie, he might not even be playing with heavy minutes, so don't expect heavy production from him. All he needs to focus now is to recover from the injury so he will be 100% prepared for the next season.

I'm expecting that he will be a good candidate for the Rookie of the year, but his missing next season will put him out of the competition. Injury can happen anytime to anyone but it's bad if one of the potential star players will suffer from it, and worse is he will miss the entire season.

But things happen and there's nothing he can do now but to develop his skill while resting and recovering with his injury.

It might not be his fortune to win ROY but what matters is for him to play and stay long in this league, he just need to equip
himself with every tool that he can bring in facing the stars who's ready to slaughter him once he steps inside the court.

NBA is not the same with college or local basketball, he will be matched with the best of the best in each position that
coach will assign him better to be prepared physically and mentally.

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 27, 2022, 06:41:49 AM

Quote from: Taskford on August 27, 2022, 06:17:21 AM

This also mean that he really need to work with his physique since basketball is physical sports and those veterans will surely hit him hard on the hard court. Also maybe from this he can minimize his critical injuries. This is unfortunate for him because he was so hype before season starts and I'm wondering now if he can still deliver good performance next season.

I guess we are expecting too much from him, we know he is hype, but he is just a rookie, he might not even be playing with heavy minutes, so don't expect heavy production from him. All he needs to focus now is to recover from the injury so he will be 100% prepared for the next season.

You can put it that way, but he is the second overall pick so a lot of people are going to expect something big from him. On the contrary, if he will play with the OKC, I'm thinking that he will get heavy minutes. I mean there are a lot of young players in the OKC and again him being #2 will have the management wanting to see their investment on him. Unfortunately, we will be deprived by that because of his injuries.

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 27, 2022, 06:41:49 AM

Quote from: Taskford on August 27, 2022, 06:17:21 AM

This also mean that he really need to work with his physique since basketball is physical sports and those veterans will surely hit him hard on the hard court. Also maybe from this he can minimize his critical injuries. This is unfortunate for him because he was so hype before season starts and I'm wondering now if he can still deliver good performance next season.

I guess we are expecting too much from him, we know he is hype, but he is just a rookie, he might not even be playing with heavy minutes, so don't expect heavy production from him. All he needs to focus now is to recover from the injury so he will be 100% prepared for the next season.

I'm expecting that he will be a good candidate for the Rookie of the year, but his missing next season will put him out of the competition. Injury can happen anytime to anyone but it's bad if one of the potential star players will suffer from it, and worse is he will miss the entire season.

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Quote from: Taskford on August 27, 2022, 06:17:21 AM

This also mean that he really need to work with his physique since basketball is physical sports and those veterans will surely hit him hard on the hard court. Also maybe from this he can minimize his critical injuries. This is unfortunate for him because he was so hype before season starts and I'm wondering now if he can still deliver good performance next season.

I guess we are expecting too much from him, we know he is hype, but he is just a rookie, he might not even be playing with heavy minutes, so don't expect heavy production from him. All he needs to focus now is to recover from the injury so he will be 100% prepared for the next season.

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