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August 18, 2022, 03:40:34 AM
I bet the rest of the Brooklyn Nets roster is now having some doubts against KD as he might be not reliable enough just like the last season where he carried most of the load that made the team cross the playoffs. A player requesting a trade is really bad sign if that player still ends up playing the same team next season because the demand has not been meet by other teams and that's the situation of the Nets now.
Kyrie on the other hand doesn't have any problem at all and actually he said that he will stay and play for the Nets even if KD is not around with them anymore.
I don't think it's doubt, it's more of the team losing their trust on KD already. It's a big let down to hear from him wanting a trade or having their coach fired. And there could be more locker room drama specially if there will be close call or if they choke a game.
I'm not sure of Kyrie as well, if I'm not mistaken, I have read that the Nets are also tired of his antics. So they might as well trade him before training camp starts.

His inability to trust his team is exactly what is going to make him not be able to perform as well as he should. I would say that there is going to be a gradual decline in his performance as a result of this. He probably won't try as hard as he did before, which means he won't do as well.

I really don’t think that either KD or Kyrie is moving anywhere.

The question of trusting the system and how they will work professionally after those dramas, KD in particular, who are asking for the trade

or for the team manager and the coach to be fired, it's not going to be the usual working environment knowing that there is someone who can

ruin the game once they are already inside the court. Players are also affected by this drama. Better to bench them instead of letting them play

with a trust issue in between.
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August 18, 2022, 02:54:19 AM
His inability to trust his team is exactly what is going to make him not be able to perform as well as he should. I would say that there is going to be a gradual decline in his performance as a result of this. He probably won't try as hard as he did before, which means he won't do as well.

I really don’t think that either KD or Kyrie is moving anywhere.
Unlike when he was part of the Warriors team. He trusted the process and Curry gave way for him. He was also the superstar of the team on that moment. Right now, Kyrie won't do that for him. Both of them are trying to be superstars in their own way and that takes out the chemistry that must be built for the team to be effective on both ends. It sucks all the energy when two players are taking different paths. I won't expect too much on the Nets team and its true KD might not even play at his best and just try to keep himself healthy.

For now there are no teams that is willing because of the enormous amount of players and future picks that will be included specially if Durant will end up in Boston. But who knows, I mean training camp has started already and in about 2-3 month the next season will start.

So it's going to be raised against time for Nets to shop around and look for Durant/Irving trade. Someone has to give in with the request and back and forth negotiations.
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August 18, 2022, 01:08:46 AM
His inability to trust his team is exactly what is going to make him not be able to perform as well as he should. I would say that there is going to be a gradual decline in his performance as a result of this. He probably won't try as hard as he did before, which means he won't do as well.

I really don’t think that either KD or Kyrie is moving anywhere.
Unlike when he was part of the Warriors team. He trusted the process and Curry gave way for him. He was also the superstar of the team on that moment. Right now, Kyrie won't do that for him. Both of them are trying to be superstars in their own way and that takes out the chemistry that must be built for the team to be effective on both ends. It sucks all the energy when two players are taking different paths. I won't expect too much on the Nets team and its true KD might not even play at his best and just try to keep himself healthy.
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August 18, 2022, 01:07:04 AM
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People easily label KD as selfish because he excels at solo performances as well. He is good even without a very good team behind him. Yet, sometimes it does feel like he doesn’t care about the team. I am sure that is just people nitpicking things. Recently even LeBron James also expressed that Kevin Durant is making the environment toxic. But if they don’t want KD on the team who are they going to bring in?
I thought I seen today that KD is gonna likely end up in Boston and Kyrie will likely be a Laker. I think the only thing stopping the Kyrie deal is Lakers agreeing to trade both draft picks next year. Should be a no brainer.

The last couple of things I heard about the Kyrie trade to Lakers was, first the Nets wants to include Joe Harris into the trade package but the Lakers in contratry wants Seth Curry instead. Second, the Nets were a little worried about Westbrook's expiring contract and they want a 3rd team involve into the trade.
Now, I'm not sure what happens to the rumors as it seems like it gradually died down.
Kyrie and KD were both want to be out in Brooklyn though.
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August 18, 2022, 01:01:21 AM
I bet the rest of the Brooklyn Nets roster is now having some doubts against KD as he might be not reliable enough just like the last season where he carried most of the load that made the team cross the playoffs. A player requesting a trade is really bad sign if that player still ends up playing the same team next season because the demand has not been meet by other teams and that's the situation of the Nets now.
Kyrie on the other hand doesn't have any problem at all and actually he said that he will stay and play for the Nets even if KD is not around with them anymore.
I don't think it's doubt, it's more of the team losing their trust on KD already. It's a big let down to hear from him wanting a trade or having their coach fired. And there could be more locker room drama specially if there will be close call or if they choke a game.
I'm not sure of Kyrie as well, if I'm not mistaken, I have read that the Nets are also tired of his antics. So they might as well trade him before training camp starts.

His inability to trust his team is exactly what is going to make him not be able to perform as well as he should. I would say that there is going to be a gradual decline in his performance as a result of this. He probably won't try as hard as he did before, which means he won't do as well.

I really don’t think that either KD or Kyrie is moving anywhere.
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August 18, 2022, 12:15:18 AM
I bet the rest of the Brooklyn Nets roster is now having some doubts against KD as he might be not reliable enough just like the last season where he carried most of the load that made the team cross the playoffs. A player requesting a trade is really bad sign if that player still ends up playing the same team next season because the demand has not been meet by other teams and that's the situation of the Nets now.
It is obvious that they should have some reservations. This is because once a player decides to leave a team, it is obvious that his attitude will not be the same going forward. Thus, I think the Brooklyn Nets roster should seriously consider this. He is still a capable player no doubt. But the reason why he requested to be traded is obviously he doesn’t want to play here anymore. And that will not only play on his mind but also on the minds of his teammates as well.


Kyrie on the other hand doesn't have any problem at all and actually he said that he will stay and play for the Nets even if KD is not around with them anymore.
Kyrie, I believe, does not have any issues like that. It's probably his performance and behavior on and off the field that people are concerned about.


For wanting only to win to get a credits under his name that's what make them losing their trust to KD and his latest controversy what makes him a toxic to their team that's why I guess its better for their organization to let go of him and try their existing stars to make out next season or better rebuild since for sure they can get another star which can  possibly fit to them in exchange with KD and irving.
People easily label KD as selfish because he excels at solo performances as well. He is good even without a very good team behind him. Yet, sometimes it does feel like he doesn’t care about the team. I am sure that is just people nitpicking things. Recently even LeBron James also expressed that Kevin Durant is making the environment toxic. But if they don’t want KD on the team who are they going to bring in?
I thought I seen today that KD is gonna likely end up in Boston and Kyrie will likely be a Laker. I think the only thing stopping the Kyrie deal is Lakers agreeing to trade both draft picks next year. Should be a no brainer.
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August 17, 2022, 10:49:25 PM
I bet the rest of the Brooklyn Nets roster is now having some doubts against KD as he might be not reliable enough just like the last season where he carried most of the load that made the team cross the playoffs. A player requesting a trade is really bad sign if that player still ends up playing the same team next season because the demand has not been meet by other teams and that's the situation of the Nets now.
It is obvious that they should have some reservations. This is because once a player decides to leave a team, it is obvious that his attitude will not be the same going forward. Thus, I think the Brooklyn Nets roster should seriously consider this. He is still a capable player no doubt. But the reason why he requested to be traded is obviously he doesn’t want to play here anymore. And that will not only play on his mind but also on the minds of his teammates as well.


Kyrie on the other hand doesn't have any problem at all and actually he said that he will stay and play for the Nets even if KD is not around with them anymore.
Kyrie, I believe, does not have any issues like that. It's probably his performance and behavior on and off the field that people are concerned about.


For wanting only to win to get a credits under his name that's what make them losing their trust to KD and his latest controversy what makes him a toxic to their team that's why I guess its better for their organization to let go of him and try their existing stars to make out next season or better rebuild since for sure they can get another star which can  possibly fit to them in exchange with KD and irving.
People easily label KD as selfish because he excels at solo performances as well. He is good even without a very good team behind him. Yet, sometimes it does feel like he doesn’t care about the team. I am sure that is just people nitpicking things. Recently even LeBron James also expressed that Kevin Durant is making the environment toxic. But if they don’t want KD on the team who are they going to bring in?
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August 17, 2022, 09:26:11 PM
There's no more excuse for them as they have the big 3 now.

Durant
Irving
Simmons.

This big 3 is strong enough to bring this team into the championship, the only problem is their chemistry and the two superstars passion to play as they have asked to be traded, hopefully that will not affect their performance in the season to come.
This big 3 sure seems to be a great one but more of a big 3 headaches for me.

Individually, yes they are one of the greatest. Durant for his shooting ability, Irving for his handles and Simmons for his defense. They are good at different things but the question right now is, will they be a great teammates in the upcoming season.

They are strong yes and that's why there are gamblers who are gambling for them again to win the title but there are some questions to other people right now. Injuries, dramas and other stuffs. Injuries is the main problem here I think but I'm hoping that the Nets will come back stronger after getting swept by the Celtics last season.
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August 17, 2022, 06:54:20 PM
So we're 2 months away from opening day of the 2022-2023 season as NBA announced.
- https://www.nba.com/news/nba-unveils-2022-23-regular-season-schedule

Celtics will host the Sixers.
Lakers will visit the defending champs.

Just want to add that the Christmas Day Game next season will be between Memphis Grizzlies and Golden State Warriors.

As per trivia, that makes Charlotte Hornets the only team who didn't have a chance to play in the Christmas game yet.

Still not doing research about it though if it's for real.
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August 17, 2022, 05:46:06 PM
There's no more excuse for them as they have the big 3 now.
Durant, Irving, Simmons.
This big 3 is strong enough to bring this team into the championship, the only problem is their chemistry and the two superstars passion to play as they have asked to be traded, hopefully that will not affect their performance in the season to come.
Yes in papers they are big 3, but for sure you know that problem right? It's not just the chemistry but the whole attitude, Durant requested to be traded, he thinks he has in control, same with Kyrie, doesn't want to get vaccinated, the team suffers and come play-off time, this 2 disappears. The the drama queen Ben Simmons, can he still play next season? There are more questions right now in terms of the whole Nets organization, everything is not on the same page.

On paper, this team does not have any problems. But in reality, the players we call the big 3 are actually causing some problems. There is no doubt that Durant's request to be traded is the biggest problem with the team right now. A player requesting to play for another team but eventually staying is not a positive sign at all. There will be a lot of variables that might effect his gameplay after this.

It seems to me that Kyrie's problem is not that big of a deal since at least he doesn't have any problems playing for the team, doesn't he?

I bet the rest of the Brooklyn Nets roster is now having some doubts against KD as he might be not reliable enough just like the last season where he carried most of the load that made the team cross the playoffs. A player requesting a trade is really bad sign if that player still ends up playing the same team next season because the demand has not been meet by other teams and that's the situation of the Nets now.

Kyrie on the other hand doesn't have any problem at all and actually he said that he will stay and play for the Nets even if KD is not around with them anymore.

I don't think it's doubt, it's more of the team losing their trust on KD already. It's a big let down to hear from him wanting a trade or having their coach fired. And there could be more locker room drama specially if there will be close call or if they choke a game.

I'm not sure of Kyrie as well, if I'm not mistaken, I have read that the Nets are also tired of his antics. So they might as well trade him before training camp starts.

For wanting only to win to get a credits under his name that's what make them losing their trust to KD and his latest controversy what makes him a toxic to their team that's why I guess its better for their organization to let go of him and try their existing stars to make out next season or better rebuild since for sure they can get another star which can  possibly fit to them in exchange with KD and irving.
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August 17, 2022, 05:32:38 PM
So we're 2 months away from opening day of the 2022-2023 season as NBA announced.
- https://www.nba.com/news/nba-unveils-2022-23-regular-season-schedule

Celtics will host the Sixers.
Lakers will visit the defending champs.

I thought that was $971 million hehe.

....I guess Bronny looks as solid as it gets for a candidate, both a legacy which is like the biggest we can think, but also a solid top 60 draft pick for sure even without the dad (well he wouldn't be this good without his dad lol).
I'm not so sure if he's top 60 or not but the hype around him and the idea that he will be a good trading piece because of the Lebron situation could make him a top 10 or top 5.
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August 17, 2022, 05:31:54 PM
While the other fans are teasing each other, their idols are having fun and just fun! They're friends in real life but there are also the others that are not friends and it's just all about the career that they have.
I am part of that who thinks Lebron and Draymond were not on good terms. Now it's all clear. It's all just their competitive side when the whistle sounds.
Yup.

That's just all about the competition and whatever reaction they show for each match that they have to each other, it's all because they're in a competition and they're just doing their jobs to make their team wins.

I wish to see more of this and those LBJ haters will appreciate that he's a person like this and if they will still hate him, I hope it's just in the court and not with him as a person.

Yes, it's more of the competitiveness amongst this guy, when they are inside the court, they will do everything to win a game and you can't see the friendship within, even hurting each other at times. But at the end of the end, those guys are friends are outside.

I'm not sure about the LBJ haters though, as we have said, "haters gonna hate", so as long as LBJ is making mistakes specially inside the court, you will hear this detractors talking about him and this and that, blah blah. But then again, as I have said, this guys are very competitive so once they hear it, they are going to be fueled by it and take it personally.
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August 17, 2022, 05:07:46 PM
There's no more excuse for them as they have the big 3 now.
Durant, Irving, Simmons.
This big 3 is strong enough to bring this team into the championship, the only problem is their chemistry and the two superstars passion to play as they have asked to be traded, hopefully that will not affect their performance in the season to come.
Yes in papers they are big 3, but for sure you know that problem right? It's not just the chemistry but the whole attitude, Durant requested to be traded, he thinks he has in control, same with Kyrie, doesn't want to get vaccinated, the team suffers and come play-off time, this 2 disappears. The the drama queen Ben Simmons, can he still play next season? There are more questions right now in terms of the whole Nets organization, everything is not on the same page.

On paper, this team does not have any problems. But in reality, the players we call the big 3 are actually causing some problems. There is no doubt that Durant's request to be traded is the biggest problem with the team right now. A player requesting to play for another team but eventually staying is not a positive sign at all. There will be a lot of variables that might effect his gameplay after this.

It seems to me that Kyrie's problem is not that big of a deal since at least he doesn't have any problems playing for the team, doesn't he?

I bet the rest of the Brooklyn Nets roster is now having some doubts against KD as he might be not reliable enough just like the last season where he carried most of the load that made the team cross the playoffs. A player requesting a trade is really bad sign if that player still ends up playing the same team next season because the demand has not been meet by other teams and that's the situation of the Nets now.

Kyrie on the other hand doesn't have any problem at all and actually he said that he will stay and play for the Nets even if KD is not around with them anymore.

I don't think it's doubt, it's more of the team losing their trust on KD already. It's a big let down to hear from him wanting a trade or having their coach fired. And there could be more locker room drama specially if there will be close call or if they choke a game.

I'm not sure of Kyrie as well, if I'm not mistaken, I have read that the Nets are also tired of his antics. So they might as well trade him before training camp starts.
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August 17, 2022, 04:52:54 PM
Jesus christ, 50 million a year give or take, which I am sure is still good money for Lebron even though he must worth like a billion already, maybe more. I am guessing that he will definitely pick up the player option, but it all depends on where his kid will go. I guess Bronny looks as solid as it gets for a candidate, both a legacy which is like the biggest we can think, but also a solid top 60 draft pick for sure even without the dad (well he wouldn't be this good without his dad lol). So all in all, I am guessing that if Lakers gets Bronny then Lebron stays, if not then Lebron may leave to wherever drafts Bronny for sure.
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August 17, 2022, 03:40:11 PM
Actually we did saw Beal and Westbrook, and I would say it was a successful tandem. However, we all know that Russ decided to go to the Lakers. And I will agree that Beal and Mitchell will be a good tandem as well. Beal again, has the experience working with other Stars so it wouldn't take the time to readjust if ever they will acquire Mitchell. But we will have to see, a lot of trades from behind seems to be  the trend now.
The difference was that Beal was a shooter, and Westbrook may had some good shooting as well there, but he was mainly driving inside, which helps the team a lot. Westbrook is the type of guy that holds the ball, drives inside, and if he ever passes, he just gets out, and waits until someone passes to him and doesn't just run around and open spaces for his teammates, dude literally just goes out and stands still waiting for the ball.

This is why it worked with wizards and okc because they allowed him to do that, it worked out. But with Lakers they have Lebron who can drive much better and AD who was already inside. Westbrook doesn't fit that team at all, horrible idea to get him, terrible.
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August 17, 2022, 03:02:56 PM
Yup.

That's just all about the competition and whatever reaction they show for each match that they have to each other, it's all because they're in a competition and they're just doing their jobs to make their team wins.

I wish to see more of this and those LBJ haters will appreciate that he's a person like this and if they will still hate him, I hope it's just in the court and not with him as a person.

All the real hate left after the 90s.  These guys are all cool with each other.  They make more money for each other when fans actually think they are rivals and get into it.  It's part of the show.  With that being said Lakers dropped a nice bucket of money in lebrons lap today

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34413561/lebron-james-los-angeles-lakers-agree-2-year-971-million-extension-includes-3rd-year-player-option
In social media groups, I still people hating these athletes. They're hating it to the part that they'll mock these athlete's personality and that's just off from being a hater and it's too much to see.

But yeah, no matter what the people thinking about them. They may be rivals inside the court but they hella have a contract that's going to set them for life.
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August 17, 2022, 02:33:26 PM
While the other fans are teasing each other, their idols are having fun and just fun! They're friends in real life but there are also the others that are not friends and it's just all about the career that they have.
I am part of that who thinks Lebron and Draymond were not on good terms. Now it's all clear. It's all just their competitive side when the whistle sounds.
Yup.

That's just all about the competition and whatever reaction they show for each match that they have to each other, it's all because they're in a competition and they're just doing their jobs to make their team wins.

I wish to see more of this and those LBJ haters will appreciate that he's a person like this and if they will still hate him, I hope it's just in the court and not with him as a person.

All the real hate left after the 90s.  These guys are all cool with each other.  They make more money for each other when fans actually think they are rivals and get into it.  It's part of the show.  With that being said Lakers dropped a nice bucket of money in lebrons lap today

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34413561/lebron-james-los-angeles-lakers-agree-2-year-971-million-extension-includes-3rd-year-player-option
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August 17, 2022, 01:49:19 PM
While the other fans are teasing each other, their idols are having fun and just fun! They're friends in real life but there are also the others that are not friends and it's just all about the career that they have.
I am part of that who thinks Lebron and Draymond were not on good terms. Now it's all clear. It's all just their competitive side when the whistle sounds.
Yup.

That's just all about the competition and whatever reaction they show for each match that they have to each other, it's all because they're in a competition and they're just doing their jobs to make their team wins.

I wish to see more of this and those LBJ haters will appreciate that he's a person like this and if they will still hate him, I hope it's just in the court and not with him as a person.
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August 17, 2022, 01:17:29 PM
There's no more excuse for them as they have the big 3 now.
Durant, Irving, Simmons.
This big 3 is strong enough to bring this team into the championship, the only problem is their chemistry and the two superstars passion to play as they have asked to be traded, hopefully that will not affect their performance in the season to come.
Yes in papers they are big 3, but for sure you know that problem right? It's not just the chemistry but the whole attitude, Durant requested to be traded, he thinks he has in control, same with Kyrie, doesn't want to get vaccinated, the team suffers and come play-off time, this 2 disappears. The the drama queen Ben Simmons, can he still play next season? There are more questions right now in terms of the whole Nets organization, everything is not on the same page.

On paper, this team does not have any problems. But in reality, the players we call the big 3 are actually causing some problems. There is no doubt that Durant's request to be traded is the biggest problem with the team right now. A player requesting to play for another team but eventually staying is not a positive sign at all. There will be a lot of variables that might effect his gameplay after this.

It seems to me that Kyrie's problem is not that big of a deal since at least he doesn't have any problems playing for the team, doesn't he?

I bet the rest of the Brooklyn Nets roster is now having some doubts against KD as he might be not reliable enough just like the last season where he carried most of the load that made the team cross the playoffs. A player requesting a trade is really bad sign if that player still ends up playing the same team next season because the demand has not been meet by other teams and that's the situation of the Nets now.

Kyrie on the other hand doesn't have any problem at all and actually he said that he will stay and play for the Nets even if KD is not around with them anymore.
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August 17, 2022, 01:00:49 PM
I agree, Kyrie and KD could be gone tomorrow, or they will not be gone at all, and we do not have any idea until it happens. I still think that fully healthy Nets for a whole year could end up being great. Last year, at the start of the season the talks were about Lakers vs Nets finals, with harden instead of Simmons obviously, we all saw the result of that.

Harden has left, Simmons is injured, Kyrie and vaccination etc etc all destroyed Nets, and Lakers having one of the worst years of both AD and Westbrook together caused them to be terrible too. So I am not expecting the thing this year, it is going to be a revenge year for Lakers, and Nets could stay healthy and be a lot better if they stay together.
Well... reading this post came to my mind... could the Nets be different this season and could they become a strong and competitive team to beat the Warriors!!? (or another team???).

I mean if both Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant reverse their requests to be traded away from Brooklyn, I could see this team being very good with another year under their belts as well as having time to gel with Ben Simmons. But whether they can beat the Warriors or not I’m not too sure. I think if they all play to their fullest abilities and stay healthy, they could..Durant is a top 3 player on the planet and Kyrie is top 10..so that should be enough for them to compete with anyone.

I don’t know if that’s going to happen. I suspected they would return and the Nets would go on like the trade requests never happened. However, I just read an article that claimed Durant said that he would rather retire then play another game for the Nets. I guess we’ll see soon enough. With only a couple months left until Durant is expected to suit up, we could have another Ben Simmons situation on our hands.

Kevin Durant already cleared the issue and he said that it wasn't true at all and he even don't know why the people keeps on believing a non-reputable sites about his situation and keeps on making story rather than sticking to the facts. So that said, I guess it wasn't really at all, I mean he is not that dumb enough to retire rather than play for the Nets this coming season because that would really mean that his career would be over and he will be remembered as a great player but a big headed. Surely he doesn't want that.

Ya, I saw the tweet he made where he was calling that rumor BS.  That was the first time I saw KD suggesting that he may return to the Nets this upcoming season.  With no movement on Kyrie and Ben Simmons being a total mystery, it's starting to look like the Nets may have a big 3 come the start of the season.  I do like that Vegas bumped up the odds for Phoenix to get KD, making Phoenix and Boston tied for likely destinations for Durant.  I think it would be a horrible move for either team to trade for him as far as their future goes, but it would be one hell of an exciting season for whoever gets him.
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