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Meanwhile in Philadelphia, seems that James Harden is really inclined to have his first ring this coming season because he's really trying to bring all the assets that the team needs to enhance their chances this time.

He said in a statement that he's not the same James Harden anymore, he's completely new and different. There's something with those words and he's really gonna be focusing on taking this season's ring. No offense to him as he's an MVP before but other teams are also strong and have the same goal as him.
Just as they say, "may the best team win".

Yes, the teams in the NBA now are quite packed with talented young athletes which will be also the next face in the NBA in the few years to come when LBJ and other players of the same age will start retiring.

James Harden still has a chance because he's still approaching his mid-30s and he got more edge than the younger teams because he got more experience. He should also improve his performance this coming season and bring into action what he said so that Embiid and Maxey's talent won't be in vain.

Yeah, he can still get a ring and he's no doubt really a talented player and one of the best. The other great players have already proven themselves being one or being with the other talents pushing up their teams to the top and even taking a ring. I know that he can do it also and wish him the best because it's one of the achievements of every NBA player, to get a championship title. He's still got more time and really eager to take one of the rings so, those motivations and words is what makes it more exciting because all of them aims for that.

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4. Danuel House Jr.
5. Otto Porter Jr.

I don't know about Dragic being a big impact in Chicago. They got Lonzo Ball there and Coby White as their point. But maybe, if they will try to put Dragic on the shooting guard position and just shoot the ball most of the time than handling it then maybe he can contribute.

We know the Trail Blazers is lacking that force in the defensive end, so GP2 will absolutely have a big role there. I want to see this guy turning to a roleplayer in many years of his career.

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I can't believe that Harden says he took a pay cut to help the team, and then signed a deal for 34 million per year. Did he think he was worth more than that? I mean, maybe he could've gotten a longer deal elsewhere for more money, but he would've been a for sure buyout candidate in a year or two. When he was going on about taking less money to help the team, I thought he'd sign for 16 million or something per year. At 30+ million per year he is still overpaid for what he brings to the table, and I doubt he ever gets another deal making anywhere near that much again.

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Another rumor, Lakers re-engage with the Pacers, trying to get Hield?

Probably this is a back up plan for them, if they are not going to get Kyrie, at least a good back up point guard?

It could be THT/Nunn or maybe future pick (maybe too much to include this one) for Hield or

Hield/Turner for Westbrook.

What do you think?

I think they've reached the point where their best offer is on the table for Kyrie and the Nets best offer is on the table for Westbrook. Now it seems like the Lakers are trying to find a backup trade to either make sure they don't get stuck with Westbrook or to put the pressure on the Nets to make a deal to get rid of their Kyrie problem.

As far as the new trade talks... I think getting Eric Gordon and Buddy Hield for Westbrook would make the Lakers a much better team. I'd still rather see Kyrie in a Lakers uniform though.

Definitely, we all wanted James and Kyrie again, but this time with the Lakers uniform. And as far as what I read, there is no beef between the two, they just have to move on after winning a championship in Cleveland together.

As for the trade, that is huge, giving up a 1st round draft pick? that far stretch, I think tHT and Nunn will be enough for a trade if Lakers wanted to get Buddy.

That will be indeed good if we can see Lebron and Kyrie wearing the same jersey again but based on what I've read, it seems that Westbrook-Irving trade wasn't maturing and hasn't move even an inch for a week now but that move is still their priority. But the Lakers is also looking for some players to acquire in the Pacers for their Plan B, specifically Buddy Hield or Gordon of Rockets to make them a part of Nets-Lakers deal to acquire Irving.

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Meanwhile in Philadelphia, seems that James Harden is really inclined to have his first ring this coming season because he's really trying to bring all the assets that the team needs to enhance their chances this time.

He said in a statement that he's not the same James Harden anymore, he's completely new and different. There's something with those words and he's really gonna be focusing on taking this season's ring. No offense to him as he's an MVP before but other teams are also strong and have the same goal as him.
Just as they say, "may the best team win".

Yes, the teams in the NBA now are quite packed with talented young athletes which will be also the next face in the NBA in the few years to come when LBJ and other players of the same age will start retiring.

James Harden still has a chance because he's still approaching his mid-30s and he got more edge than the younger teams because he got more experience. He should also improve his performance this coming season and bring into action what he said so that Embiid and Maxey's talent won't be in vain.

If he will not choke he has a chance. Look at their performance against the Heat, 2 MVPs playing on the same team but they cannot beat the Heat. They won't go anywhere if they will not improve their line up, and if Harden will not average close to his average when he was still with the Rockets.

Just let the man prove his worth this upcoming season because we saw that he was clearly struggling and he is not averaging the same figures that he did a few years back but there's a reason for that, as we know, the NBA changed some rules so that Harden cannot have many free throws he wanted because he's using fouls to make free points unguarded.
Anyway, let's see what is the improvement of the 76ers this time.

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Quote from: btc_angela on July 21, 2022, 05:36:03 AM

Definitely, we all wanted James and Kyrie again, but this time with the Lakers uniform. And as far as what I read, there is no beef between the two, they just have to move on after winning a championship in Cleveland together.

Yeah, if James, Irving, and a healthy Davis played together, the Lakers would have great potential next season. However, as far as I know, discussions about the Irving-Westbrook swap have stalled, and there is a chance Irving won't be traded this offseason because the Nets are focused on the Durant trade now. In addition, the Nets don't want to discuss a deal with the Lakers, which doesn't include a third team willing to take on huge Westbrook's contract.

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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34273332/sources-james-harden-philadelphia-76ers-agree-two-year-686-million-deal

It's official Harden inked for another 2 years restructuring his contract. He has made his dough and people saying he is sacrificing for the team, didn't he only have 1 year left anyway so now he locks in for 2 more years with the sixers. I get it he lowered his per year but avoids dealing with free agency and still banking 66 mil over 2 years. All the while staying in his preferred city.

According to the article, he has a player option in his 2nd year, which was on the 2023-24 season.

What's the possible thing that can happen for him after his 1st year in the Sixers?

- if the Sixers are still a failed team next season, Harden might use his option to become a free agent again and finds another team
- if the Sixers finished decently next season, maybe ECF or NBA Finals, he might stay on the team

He's making sure that he will be free to choose which ever team he wanted just in case the Sixers wouldn't give him what he wanted or won't perform that much next season. But for me, James Harden should also do something to make himself improve because there is really no doubt that Embiid and Maxey are trying to lift the team.

I bet Doc Rivers and the team have some plan in this coming season, they are already a tough team but they still needed some improvement because the other teams in NBA are also trying to do the same thing.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 21, 2022, 10:40:59 AM

Because he said "whatever is left" that's why I expected the management will cut a lot of money from him. He is lucky they are not that greedy. Grin

I think he will look for a borderline on what will be the fruit of this sacrifice. If they cannot even reach the ECF then he might exit and ask for a trade.
But he had been there, so he may want more. A Finals Championship might be the only one to satisfy him. We will see.

Seeing his desire and his actions, I may bet for the 76ers for the championship if the odds are right. Right after the preseason.

Can't wait for the next season to come since we will gonna see some great improvement from the other team as well and we might not know but Embidd has been practicing Harden's step-back, maybe he already managed to master it perfectly this upcoming season. Nevertheless, the 76ers are one of the promising teams this season along with the Pelicans. I hope they gonna reach their goals and finally get to the NBA finals if injuries won't gonna become a great wall for them this year.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 21, 2022, 03:38:10 AM

Perhaps that is the lowest that Harden is willing to accept. But that's a lot of money to sign players already which they did already. I agree, if ever they reach that far, for sure Harden will try to make one more run and see if he can finally put a ring on his finger. But if worst things happen, I mean like they totally break upon in the season, for sure we will see another history of trade request from him.

Because he said "whatever is left" that's why I expected the management will cut a lot of money from him. He is lucky they are not that greedy. Grin

I think he will look for a borderline on what will be the fruit of this sacrifice. If they cannot even reach the ECF then he might exit and ask for a trade.
But he had been there, so he may want more. A Finals Championship might be the only one to satisfy him. We will see.

Seeing his desire and his actions, I may bet for the 76ers for the championship if the odds are right. Right after the preseason.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 20, 2022, 09:01:22 PM

Embiid is a hell of a player but I just don’t think him and Harden will ever be enough to bring a championship to Philadelphia. They are definitely a decent team but in todays NBA is just next to impossible to win it all unless you’ve got one of the top 5-7 best players and I don’t think Embiid or Harden are.

They need a deep bench that can help them score and defend. It will be really hard if the team will just rely on these two superstars. Almost every championship team have a deep bench filled with reliable role players that help their stars. Hopefully, with Harden giving way with his salary cut, the team can fill their roster with players that will complement the playing style of both harden and Embiid.

Quote from: Natalim on July 21, 2022, 06:25:43 AM

If he will not choke he has a chance. Look at their performance against the Heat, 2 MVPs playing on the same team but they cannot beat the Heat. They won't go anywhere if they will not improve their line up, and if Harden will not average close to his average when he was still with the Rockets.

The good thing now is that he has Embiid to share the pressure with. Harden does not have to play a lot of iso ball but must now facilitate so that he and embiid can get higher percentage shots. The lesser pressure the lesser chance to choke.

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Harden proves already that he can be a good ball passer and he already show some good sign that he's willing to help his team to win a championship, for sure next season will be more interesting with Sixers because they got good quality role players from free agency which can help them win a championship next season.

But passing alone cannot win games, I mean, no doubt that his performance in the regular season with the sixers are impressive, but in the playoffs, he wasn't as productive as in the regular season, so that's something he has to work on if he wants to make his team a championship team.

But Harden is not just a passer. He is an elite shooter, ball handler and facilitator. And with Embiid, they can be lethal. They just need time to work out the chemistry they needed to win games. They did not have that much time last season and Embiid is injured last playoffs. He forced himself to play but you can see that he is hurting.

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Harden proves already that he can be a good ball passer and he already show some good sign that he's willing to help his team to win a championship, for sure next season will be more interesting with Sixers because they got good quality role players from free agency which can help them win a championship next season.

But passing alone cannot win games, I mean, no doubt that his performance in the regular season with the sixers are impressive, but in the playoffs, he wasn't as productive as in the regular season, so that's something he has to work on if he wants to make his team a championship team.

That's his style and that would not change IMO. Embiid has some injury problems during the playoffs but I'm already happy with what the Sixers had achieved that time, also, Harden did not play the whole season, so let's see if next season this team will become a championship contender.

Harden and Westbrook are teammates before, they both win a regular season MVP but have not won a championship yet, they badly need one.

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Quote from: ultrloa on July 21, 2022, 07:59:49 AM

Harden proves already that he can be a good ball passer and he already show some good sign that he's willing to help his team to win a championship, for sure next season will be more interesting with Sixers because they got good quality role players from free agency which can help them win a championship next season.

But passing alone cannot win games, I mean, no doubt that his performance in the regular season with the sixers are impressive, but in the playoffs, he wasn't as productive as in the regular season, so that's something he has to work on if he wants to make his team a championship team.

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Meanwhile in Philadelphia, seems that James Harden is really inclined to have his first ring this coming season because he's really trying to bring all the assets that the team needs to enhance their chances this time.

He said in a statement that he's not the same James Harden anymore, he's completely new and different. There's something with those words and he's really gonna be focusing on taking this season's ring. No offense to him as he's an MVP before but other teams are also strong and have the same goal as him.
Just as they say, "may the best team win".

Yes, the teams in the NBA now are quite packed with talented young athletes which will be also the next face in the NBA in the few years to come when LBJ and other players of the same age will start retiring.

James Harden still has a chance because he's still approaching his mid-30s and he got more edge than the younger teams because he got more experience. He should also improve his performance this coming season and bring into action what he said so that Embiid and Maxey's talent won't be in vain.

If he will not choke he has a chance. Look at their performance against the Heat, 2 MVPs playing on the same team but they cannot beat the Heat. They won't go anywhere if they will not improve their line up, and if Harden will not average close to his average when he was still with the Rockets.

That's the problem with Harden, he is not a clutch player like Curry who gets better when the team needs a win. Harden now is in a better team, he does not have to carry his team alone as there's Embiid who can also do that, all they have to do is just to help each other and build a good chemistry among their teammates.

Harden proves already that he can be a good ball passer and he already show some good sign that he's willing to help his team to win a championship, for sure next season will be more interesting with Sixers because they got good quality role players from free agency which can help them win a championship next season.

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Meanwhile in Philadelphia, seems that James Harden is really inclined to have his first ring this coming season because he's really trying to bring all the assets that the team needs to enhance their chances this time.

He said in a statement that he's not the same James Harden anymore, he's completely new and different. There's something with those words and he's really gonna be focusing on taking this season's ring. No offense to him as he's an MVP before but other teams are also strong and have the same goal as him.
Just as they say, "may the best team win".

Yes, the teams in the NBA now are quite packed with talented young athletes which will be also the next face in the NBA in the few years to come when LBJ and other players of the same age will start retiring.

James Harden still has a chance because he's still approaching his mid-30s and he got more edge than the younger teams because he got more experience. He should also improve his performance this coming season and bring into action what he said so that Embiid and Maxey's talent won't be in vain.

If he will not choke he has a chance. Look at their performance against the Heat, 2 MVPs playing on the same team but they cannot beat the Heat. They won't go anywhere if they will not improve their line up, and if Harden will not average close to his average when he was still with the Rockets.

That's the problem with Harden, he is not a clutch player like Curry who gets better when the team needs a win. Harden now is in a better team, he does not have to carry his team alone as there's Embiid who can also do that, all they have to do is just to help each other and build a good chemistry among their teammates.

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Meanwhile in Philadelphia, seems that James Harden is really inclined to have his first ring this coming season because he's really trying to bring all the assets that the team needs to enhance their chances this time.

He said in a statement that he's not the same James Harden anymore, he's completely new and different. There's something with those words and he's really gonna be focusing on taking this season's ring. No offense to him as he's an MVP before but other teams are also strong and have the same goal as him.
Just as they say, "may the best team win".

Yes, the teams in the NBA now are quite packed with talented young athletes which will be also the next face in the NBA in the few years to come when LBJ and other players of the same age will start retiring.

James Harden still has a chance because he's still approaching his mid-30s and he got more edge than the younger teams because he got more experience. He should also improve his performance this coming season and bring into action what he said so that Embiid and Maxey's talent won't be in vain.

If he will not choke he has a chance. Look at their performance against the Heat, 2 MVPs playing on the same team but they cannot beat the Heat. They won't go anywhere if they will not improve their line up, and if Harden will not average close to his average when he was still with the Rockets.

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Quote from: mirakal on July 20, 2022, 03:59:26 PM

Meanwhile in Philadelphia, seems that James Harden is really inclined to have his first ring this coming season because he's really trying to bring all the assets that the team needs to enhance their chances this time.

He said in a statement that he's not the same James Harden anymore, he's completely new and different. There's something with those words and he's really gonna be focusing on taking this season's ring. No offense to him as he's an MVP before but other teams are also strong and have the same goal as him.
Just as they say, "may the best team win".

Yes, the teams in the NBA now are quite packed with talented young athletes which will be also the next face in the NBA in the few years to come when LBJ and other players of the same age will start retiring.

James Harden still has a chance because he's still approaching his mid-30s and he got more edge than the younger teams because he got more experience. He should also improve his performance this coming season and bring into action what he said so that Embiid and Maxey's talent won't be in vain.

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Another rumor, Lakers re-engage with the Pacers, trying to get Hield?

Probably this is a back up plan for them, if they are not going to get Kyrie, at least a good back up point guard?

It could be THT/Nunn or maybe future pick (maybe too much to include this one) for Hield or

Hield/Turner for Westbrook.

What do you think?

I think they've reached the point where their best offer is on the table for Kyrie and the Nets best offer is on the table for Westbrook. Now it seems like the Lakers are trying to find a backup trade to either make sure they don't get stuck with Westbrook or to put the pressure on the Nets to make a deal to get rid of their Kyrie problem.

As far as the new trade talks... I think getting Eric Gordon and Buddy Hield for Westbrook would make the Lakers a much better team. I'd still rather see Kyrie in a Lakers uniform though.

Definitely, we all wanted James and Kyrie again, but this time with the Lakers uniform. And as far as what I read, there is no beef between the two, they just have to move on after winning a championship in Cleveland together.

As for the trade, that is huge, giving up a 1st round draft pick? that far stretch, I think tHT and Nunn will be enough for a trade if Lakers wanted to get Buddy.

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So good in paper but we will see what the future holds for him as Sixers. And hopefully the team will be healthy so that we can see the potential because this team is huge, I mean we've seen Joel Embiid putting MVP stats and he could be the MVP last season if he remains consistent, (not getting injured).

That's the problem, even if the Sixers are healthy throughout all season and in playoffs, they always failed.

There's no question about Joel Embiid. He's always on the MVP rankings every season. His stats are really impressive and top of the line among many others. If only he has good role players backup, his talent is not wasted on this team. The Sixers should be grateful that Embiid never asks for a trade or even an intention to do it after several years of failed journey.

If the Sixers will do nothing, they will end up like Portland Trail Blazers that is not working their best to surround their main player with a good backup. After keeping Harden, Sixers should also needs to improve their other starters and even the bench squad.

Embiid is a hell of a player but I just don’t think him and Harden will ever be enough to bring a championship to Philadelphia. They are definitely a decent team but in todays NBA is just next to impossible to win it all unless you’ve got one of the top 5-7 best players and I don’t think Embiid or Harden are.

Just remember the Bucks when they won a championship.
They only have Giannis and Middleton as an all-star but they have 3rd player in Holiday plus a very well-rounded supporting casts that's why they won a championship.

I'm not saying that Bucks = Sixers and Harden and Embiid alone can't carrying the team isn't enough that's why they need a 3rd option that will help them and I believe it's Tyrese Maxey. He played well last season and in the playoffs but it wasn't enough for the whole team. Overall, he played well and if he will improve more this season, they have a shot in winning the title. Let's see their supporting players after the trade deadline and we might predict if the Sixers will be a title contender or not.

Yes, when the Bucks won that championship, they are well rounded, just like what the Warriors is in winning their 4th. Holiday and then a bunch of role players who knows how to fit into their system, rebounds, defense, shooting from the outside. As I have said previously, Harris should be the next guy to really contribute. IF he plays so-so performance again this season, it's better for the Sixers to trade him and look for players that can help Joel and Harden in offense.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 20, 2022, 06:25:20 PM

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34273332/sources-james-harden-philadelphia-76ers-agree-two-year-686-million-deal

It's official Harden inked for another 2 years restructuring his contract. He has made his dough and people saying he is sacrificing for the team, didn't he only have 1 year left anyway so now he locks in for 2 more years with the sixers. I get it he lowered his per year but avoids dealing with free agency and still banking 66 mil over 2 years. All the while staying in his preferred city.

Well, I guess this is a good thing for him, he made this decision thinking of ways he could get a ring this season, I really think it is not a bad choice, getting into a trade will surely not solve his problem, and I think he is losing so much time right now and needed this opportunity and sacrificing some of his salaries is kind of not a loss to him either but a pretty much gain for the Philadelphia 76ers in my opinion, many teams are doing their all for the next season, and I think James Harden is thinking of ways on his own aswell,

Quote from: agustina2 on July 20, 2022, 06:56:34 PM

According to the article, he has a player option in his 2nd year, which was on the 2023-24 season.

What's the possible thing that can happen for him after his 1st year in the Sixers?

- if the Sixers are still a failed team next season, Harden might use his option to become a free agent again and finds another team
- if the Sixers finished decently next season, maybe ECF or NBA Finals, he might stay on the team

It is really insane how the 76ers are pushing their boundaries in giving the option to Harden, but I think it is a good call and they don't really have any option left, and with their financial status as well that is why James Harden is cutting his salary just to compensate with the 76ers lack in resources, and maybe a valiant thing for him to do, although cutting off his salary will still give him much amount left, well maybe the Philadelphia 76ers will now have a chance in entering the NBA finals next season but this is just my speculation and I really love what James Harden is doing now,

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 20, 2022, 06:25:20 PM

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34273332/sources-james-harden-philadelphia-76ers-agree-two-year-686-million-deal

It's official Harden inked for another 2 years restructuring his contract. He has made his dough and people saying he is sacrificing for the team, didn't he only have 1 year left anyway so now he locks in for 2 more years with the sixers. I get it he lowered his per year but avoids dealing with free agency and still banking 66 mil over 2 years. All the while staying in his preferred city.

I thought it was going to be below $20m but I guess that will be too savage. Grin

Thanks for the update.
From $47.4M with a player option to $33M. $14.4 will give a lot of room for the 76ers cap space to hire another roleplayer that will help them go back to the ECF or better the Finals.
If ever they will reach ECF this season and fail the Finals, I think Harden will stay even if he will become a free agent the next. That just means something, his plan worked and the better decision would be to stay and try again.

Perhaps that is the lowest that Harden is willing to accept. But that's a lot of money to sign players already which they did already. I agree, if ever they reach that far, for sure Harden will try to make one more run and see if he can finally put a ring on his finger. But if worst things happen, I mean like they totally break upon in the season, for sure we will see another history of trade request from him.

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