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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 20, 2022, 06:25:20 PM

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34273332/sources-james-harden-philadelphia-76ers-agree-two-year-686-million-deal

It's official Harden inked for another 2 years restructuring his contract. He has made his dough and people saying he is sacrificing for the team, didn't he only have 1 year left anyway so now he locks in for 2 more years with the sixers. I get it he lowered his per year but avoids dealing with free agency and still banking 66 mil over 2 years. All the while staying in his preferred city.

I thought it was going to be below $20m but I guess that will be too savage. Grin

Thanks for the update.
From $47.4M with a player option to $33M. $14.4 will give a lot of room for the 76ers cap space to hire another roleplayer that will help them go back to the ECF or better the Finals.
If ever they will reach ECF this season and fail the Finals, I think Harden will stay even if he will become a free agent the next. That just means something, his plan worked and the better decision would be to stay and try again.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 20, 2022, 09:01:22 PM

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 20, 2022, 08:12:30 PM

So good in paper but we will see what the future holds for him as Sixers. And hopefully the team will be healthy so that we can see the potential because this team is huge, I mean we've seen Joel Embiid putting MVP stats and he could be the MVP last season if he remains consistent, (not getting injured).

That's the problem, even if the Sixers are healthy throughout all season and in playoffs, they always failed.

There's no question about Joel Embiid. He's always on the MVP rankings every season. His stats are really impressive and top of the line among many others. If only he has good role players backup, his talent is not wasted on this team. The Sixers should be grateful that Embiid never asks for a trade or even an intention to do it after several years of failed journey.

If the Sixers will do nothing, they will end up like Portland Trail Blazers that is not working their best to surround their main player with a good backup. After keeping Harden, Sixers should also needs to improve their other starters and even the bench squad.

Embiid is a hell of a player but I just don’t think him and Harden will ever be enough to bring a championship to Philadelphia. They are definitely a decent team but in todays NBA is just next to impossible to win it all unless you’ve got one of the top 5-7 best players and I don’t think Embiid or Harden are.

Just remember the Bucks when they won a championship.
They only have Giannis and Middleton as an all-star but they have 3rd player in Holiday plus a very well-rounded supporting casts that's why they won a championship.

I'm not saying that Bucks = Sixers and Harden and Embiid alone can't carrying the team isn't enough that's why they need a 3rd option that will help them and I believe it's Tyrese Maxey. He played well last season and in the playoffs but it wasn't enough for the whole team. Overall, he played well and if he will improve more this season, they have a shot in winning the title. Let's see their supporting players after the trade deadline and we might predict if the Sixers will be a title contender or not.

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Quote from: chaser15 on July 20, 2022, 08:24:19 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on July 20, 2022, 08:12:30 PM

So good in paper but we will see what the future holds for him as Sixers. And hopefully the team will be healthy so that we can see the potential because this team is huge, I mean we've seen Joel Embiid putting MVP stats and he could be the MVP last season if he remains consistent, (not getting injured).

That's the problem, even if the Sixers are healthy throughout all season and in playoffs, they always failed.

There's no question about Joel Embiid. He's always on the MVP rankings every season. His stats are really impressive and top of the line among many others. If only he has good role players backup, his talent is not wasted on this team. The Sixers should be grateful that Embiid never asks for a trade or even an intention to do it after several years of failed journey.

If the Sixers will do nothing, they will end up like Portland Trail Blazers that is not working their best to surround their main player with a good backup. After keeping Harden, Sixers should also needs to improve their other starters and even the bench squad.

This upcoming season is not jus for them after GSW wins the title, it is expected to see how teams will try

to build a much more powerful squad. Sixers might need to keep improving, but we can't predict in how other teams from both
he East side and the West side will also establish solid powerhouse squad.

They are trying their best from each season and always end up short, another season to wait if how good they will
perform and if they will succeed, a question that can be concluded after the season's end.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 20, 2022, 09:01:22 PM

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 20, 2022, 08:12:30 PM

So good in paper but we will see what the future holds for him as Sixers. And hopefully the team will be healthy so that we can see the potential because this team is huge, I mean we've seen Joel Embiid putting MVP stats and he could be the MVP last season if he remains consistent, (not getting injured).

That's the problem, even if the Sixers are healthy throughout all season and in playoffs, they always failed.

There's no question about Joel Embiid. He's always on the MVP rankings every season. His stats are really impressive and top of the line among many others. If only he has good role players backup, his talent is not wasted on this team. The Sixers should be grateful that Embiid never asks for a trade or even an intention to do it after several years of failed journey.

If the Sixers will do nothing, they will end up like Portland Trail Blazers that is not working their best to surround their main player with a good backup. After keeping Harden, Sixers should also needs to improve their other starters and even the bench squad.

Embiid is a hell of a player but I just don’t think him and Harden will ever be enough to bring a championship to Philadelphia. They are definitely a decent team but in todays NBA is just next to impossible to win it all unless you’ve got one of the top 5-7 best players and I don’t think Embiid or Harden are.

Well Giannis did it with Middleton, so I think the Sixers with Joel and Harden and some battle tested players will be enough to least a top spot in the Eastern Conf. We've seen that Harden blend well as compare to his Nets stay with KD and Kyrie to certain extend. So let's see how far they can go with this combination and yes the heath is what is important for this two because they are also prone to injury.

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Quote from: chaser15 on July 20, 2022, 08:24:19 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on July 20, 2022, 08:12:30 PM

So good in paper but we will see what the future holds for him as Sixers. And hopefully the team will be healthy so that we can see the potential because this team is huge, I mean we've seen Joel Embiid putting MVP stats and he could be the MVP last season if he remains consistent, (not getting injured).

That's the problem, even if the Sixers are healthy throughout all season and in playoffs, they always failed.

There's no question about Joel Embiid. He's always on the MVP rankings every season. His stats are really impressive and top of the line among many others. If only he has good role players backup, his talent is not wasted on this team. The Sixers should be grateful that Embiid never asks for a trade or even an intention to do it after several years of failed journey.

If the Sixers will do nothing, they will end up like Portland Trail Blazers that is not working their best to surround their main player with a good backup. After keeping Harden, Sixers should also needs to improve their other starters and even the bench squad.

Embiid is a hell of a player but I just don’t think him and Harden will ever be enough to bring a championship to Philadelphia. They are definitely a decent team but in todays NBA is just next to impossible to win it all unless you’ve got one of the top 5-7 best players and I don’t think Embiid or Harden are.

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 20, 2022, 08:12:30 PM

So good in paper but we will see what the future holds for him as Sixers. And hopefully the team will be healthy so that we can see the potential because this team is huge, I mean we've seen Joel Embiid putting MVP stats and he could be the MVP last season if he remains consistent, (not getting injured).

That's the problem, even if the Sixers are healthy throughout all season and in playoffs, they always failed.

There's no question about Joel Embiid. He's always on the MVP rankings every season. His stats are really impressive and top of the line among many others. If only he has good role players backup, his talent is not wasted on this team. The Sixers should be grateful that Embiid never asks for a trade or even an intention to do it after several years of failed journey.

If the Sixers will do nothing, they will end up like Portland Trail Blazers that is not working their best to surround their main player with a good backup. After keeping Harden, Sixers should also needs to improve their other starters and even the bench squad.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 20, 2022, 06:25:20 PM

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34273332/sources-james-harden-philadelphia-76ers-agree-two-year-686-million-deal

It's official Harden inked for another 2 years restructuring his contract. He has made his dough and people saying he is sacrificing for the team, didn't he only have 1 year left anyway so now he locks in for 2 more years with the sixers. I get it he lowered his per year but avoids dealing with free agency and still banking 66 mil over 2 years. All the while staying in his preferred city.

According to the article, he has a player option in his 2nd year, which was on the 2023-24 season.

What's the possible thing that can happen for him after his 1st year in the Sixers?

- if the Sixers are still a failed team next season, Harden might use his option to become a free agent again and finds another team
- if the Sixers finished decently next season, maybe ECF or NBA Finals, he might stay on the team

Not unless as you have described, have a good season, amongst the top in the East again, probably top 3 and then doesn't blew up in the playoffs or choke as he is known off.

So good in paper but we will see what the future holds for him as Sixers. And hopefully the team will be healthy so that we can see the potential because this team is huge, I mean we've seen Joel Embiid putting MVP stats and he could be the MVP last season if he remains consistent, (not getting injured).

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Quote from: harizen on July 20, 2022, 06:39:02 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 20, 2022, 06:25:20 PM

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34273332/sources-james-harden-philadelphia-76ers-agree-two-year-686-million-deal

It's official Harden inked for another 2 years restructuring his contract. He has made his dough and people saying he is sacrificing for the team, didn't he only have 1 year left anyway so now he locks in for 2 more years with the sixers. I get it he lowered his per year but avoids dealing with free agency and still banking 66 mil over 2 years. All the while staying in his preferred city.

A good move though since after all, changing teams won't help him at this point. He already build a good relationship with the Sixers within just a short time and that's a good sign that he is really fit for the team.

After all, the Sixers don't have any reliable point guard at this point that's why keeping Harden is the best move they do so far this off-season.

But they shouldn't stop on that as it's been several seasons already where they always ended up in the failed rally. Joel Embiid's "trust the process" program doesn't show yet any good improvements for years even though he is having monster stats every season.

What's the problem? Consistent and reliable teammates.

It's a good move for Harden and also from the management, the process is already showing good result they just lacking something

that they needed to improve this upcoming season, good relationship with the players and good working chemistry with the coach is what

they needed to keep improving, though it's still early to say that they may have much better rally. We need to wait for how they will

play and what will be the turnaround of this extension for Harden and the rest of the Sixers.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 20, 2022, 06:25:20 PM

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34273332/sources-james-harden-philadelphia-76ers-agree-two-year-686-million-deal

It's official Harden inked for another 2 years restructuring his contract. He has made his dough and people saying he is sacrificing for the team, didn't he only have 1 year left anyway so now he locks in for 2 more years with the sixers. I get it he lowered his per year but avoids dealing with free agency and still banking 66 mil over 2 years. All the while staying in his preferred city.

According to the article, he has a player option in his 2nd year, which was on the 2023-24 season.

What's the possible thing that can happen for him after his 1st year in the Sixers?

- if the Sixers are still a failed team next season, Harden might use his option to become a free agent again and finds another team
- if the Sixers finished decently next season, maybe ECF or NBA Finals, he might stay on the team

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 20, 2022, 06:25:20 PM

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34273332/sources-james-harden-philadelphia-76ers-agree-two-year-686-million-deal

It's official Harden inked for another 2 years restructuring his contract. He has made his dough and people saying he is sacrificing for the team, didn't he only have 1 year left anyway so now he locks in for 2 more years with the sixers. I get it he lowered his per year but avoids dealing with free agency and still banking 66 mil over 2 years. All the while staying in his preferred city.

A good move though since after all, changing teams won't help him at this point. He already build a good relationship with the Sixers within just a short time and that's a good sign that he is really fit for the team.

After all, the Sixers don't have any reliable point guard at this point that's why keeping Harden is the best move they do so far this off-season.

But they shouldn't stop on that as it's been several seasons already where they always ended up in the failed rally. Joel Embiid's "trust the process" program doesn't show yet any good improvements for years even though he is having monster stats every season.

What's the problem? Consistent and reliable teammates.

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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34273332/sources-james-harden-philadelphia-76ers-agree-two-year-686-million-deal

It's official Harden inked for another 2 years restructuring his contract. He has made his dough and people saying he is sacrificing for the team, didn't he only have 1 year left anyway so now he locks in for 2 more years with the sixers. I get it he lowered his per year but avoids dealing with free agency and still banking 66 mil over 2 years. All the while staying in his preferred city.

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Quote from: Baofeng on July 20, 2022, 05:23:59 PM

Another rumor, Lakers re-engage with the Pacers, trying to get Hield?

Probably this is a back up plan for them, if they are not going to get Kyrie, at least a good back up point guard?

It could be THT/Nunn or maybe future pick (maybe too much to include this one) for Hield or

Hield/Turner for Westbrook.

What do you think?

I think they've reached the point where their best offer is on the table for Kyrie and the Nets best offer is on the table for Westbrook. Now it seems like the Lakers are trying to find a backup trade to either make sure they don't get stuck with Westbrook or to put the pressure on the Nets to make a deal to get rid of their Kyrie problem.

As far as the new trade talks... I think getting Eric Gordon and Buddy Hield for Westbrook would make the Lakers a much better team. I'd still rather see Kyrie in a Lakers uniform though.

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Quote from: jostorres on July 20, 2022, 05:08:47 PM

Harden definitely still could play amazingly. Just because he hasn't been at his peak for a while, doesn't mean he is going down and playing badly. This dude played with 21 ppg, 10+ assists and 7 rebounds per game for the sixers. I mean think about it, that's what we are going to see this year as well, maybe he will score a bit more, but that's the thing he is good at.

In fairness to James Harden, even though already considered out of his prime, he is still consistent in getting good numbers. Since departing from the Houston Rockets, he has a good average and stats playing at the Brooklyn Nets and some few games in the Philadelphia Sixers, especially in the playoffs.

It means chemistry is not a problem with James Harden and he easily adapts to the Sixers system even though there's already a main scorer there.

It also shows that Harden is a good pair and better duo with a player on another position and not the same type as his unlike on his previous teams where he shared roles with other main scorers in the PG and SG position making it a bit of hard execution in making good plays.

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Quote from: mirakal on July 20, 2022, 03:59:26 PM

Meanwhile in Philadelphia, seems that James Harden is really inclined to have his first ring this coming season because he's really trying to bring all the assets that the team needs to enhance their chances this time.

He said in a statement that he's not the same James Harden anymore, he's completely new and different. There's something with those words and he's really gonna be focusing on taking this season's ring. No offense to him as he's an MVP before but other teams are also strong and have the same goal as him.
Just as they say, "may the best team win".

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Another rumor, Lakers re-engage with the Pacers, trying to get Hield?

Probably this is a back up plan for them, if they are not going to get Kyrie, at least a good back up point guard?

It could be THT/Nunn or maybe future pick (maybe too much to include this one) for Hield or

Hield/Turner for Westbrook.

What do you think?

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Quote from: jakelyson on July 20, 2022, 07:46:50 AM

Quote from: Yogee on July 20, 2022, 07:11:38 AM

It all makes sense to me. Don't put it on the team why Ayton's performance declined. Blame it on the player since he was still under contract and he's expected to perform. He's become unprofessional if what you're saying is true.

They benched him though in the third quarter of Game 7. It is an important game and you bench your best center, that means something. Hopefully, they sort this out next season.

btc_angela was talking about how Ayton's performance was affected by the non-renewal of his contract so I responded that that's on the player. What happened in game 7 is on the coach and also not on the team management unless they called Monty Williams during the game to do that.

Quote from: danherbias07 on July 20, 2022, 02:20:05 PM

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Doc Rivers will make him a playmaker

That's what I really want to see. He may not reach the level of CP3 but it will prolong his career if he'll be more focus on creating opportunities for his teammates. He'll be more dangerous.

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Quote from: freedomgo on July 20, 2022, 01:57:39 PM

I cannot really say that he's been out of his prime because he is still at the right age to do the same performance, it's just that he's now unable to do what he used to because NBA changed the rules because of the way he plays. For me, it was quite unfair to change it because NBA is not about all talent and sometimes it requires more IQ to outsmart the talented ones.
But yea, the rule has already changed. Harden needs to move on and do all the things he can improve because he is now on a team that could bring him his first ever championship ring that he wanted since then. Let's just give the man a chance before we conclude that he was already out of his prime.

Harden definitely still could play amazingly. Just because he hasn't been at his peak for a while, doesn't mean he is going down and playing badly. This dude played with 21 ppg, 10+ assists and 7 rebounds per game for the sixers. I mean think about it, that's what we are going to see this year as well, maybe he will score a bit more, but that's the thing he is good at.

If you are looking for a person who could score like that and still have 10+ assist numbers that's going to be quite difficult. At the end of the day he is still an easy all-star level player, not even barely. Just let him run free and he will dominate along with Embiid, that duo will be much better than him with any other duo he was part of.

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Quote from: mirakal on July 20, 2022, 03:59:26 PM

The Suns was dumb enough for considering to let go of Ayton after helping them last season, I bet they won't go that far and have a without him because as far as I can tell, the farthest game that they can go was just against the Mavericks but will end up losing in that 2nd round.

That's not a dumb move if there's already a problem inside between Ayton and the management. Why stay or keep a player if something like that happened. But good thing it's now all good because of good talks and everything is now done deal. Ayton's agent I think is the reason why the contract signing was delayed.

And even with Ayton, don't get hyped with Phoenix Suns. They all choked on their last game last playoffs where they allow to be behind by 30+ points in their Game 7 match. How can they be a contender again if something like that happened against the underdog and even has the 2-0 advantage on that series.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 19, 2022, 10:04:57 PM

Center Deandre Ayton just re-signed with the Phoenix Suns for a $133 million 4-year contract. I can't believe the Suns earlier planned to let go of Ayton. They could've not played in the western finals this season and the finals itself last season without Ayton.

In Philly. I really like James Harden sacrificing his contract in order to sign more players the 76ers badly needed. They got P.J. Tucker and Daniel House now, all of them former Rockets teammates and chemistry should not be hard to re-establish especially on Tucker.

The Suns was dumb enough for considering to let go of Ayton after helping them last season, I bet they won't go that far and have a without him because as far as I can tell, the farthest game that they can go was just against the Mavericks but will end up losing in that 2nd round. The Suns was also dumber because they wasted more millions of money, they could've saved more money if they had offered him much earlier but they haven't, now their hands was tied and forced to match the offer of Pacer.

Meanwhile in Philadelphia, seems that James Harden is really inclined to have his first ring this coming season because he's really trying to bring all the assets that the team needs to enhance their chances this time.

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Quote from: Vaculin on July 20, 2022, 08:22:41 AM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 20, 2022, 08:09:20 AM

Yes, probably it was a good ploy by his agent that time, allow Pacers to offer them that huge money. And if Phoenix doesn't counter then good, he can sign with the Pacers with that huge money. But if the Suns management find Ayton and willing to give him his money for his performance then good as well, so it's a win-win situation for DA. Now it's time for him to show the management that he is really worth that much. Bring a ring with CP3 and Booker, sort of their big 3.

Bring a ring? Well, that's an ultimate success but I don't think that's possible with the current roster.

The big 3 are not enough to win a championship, they were the favorite last season but they messed up when they get upset by the Dallas Mavericks.
I don't know if what they can improve but I believe they need another superstar to increase their chances.

Same thoughts. They had 2 opportunity to win a title. They blew up the first one and they made it worst in the 2nd run.
Their line up is pretty solid, I'm not quite sure what's really lacking, but I'm thinking better play execution, consistency, and being healthy all throughout the playoffs. Being fully health will give them a momentum boost.
They don't need another superstars, they just need to find a way to make things work for their big 3 and the supporting players.

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