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There is an interesting article on nba.com about James Harden. I was quite surprised that he is on the verge of making a new deal with his team that instead of getting 46 million dollars next season, he is helping the team and making a deal for two years that will get him 32 million dollars next season, and it includes a player option for the second season. He is really trying to show everyone that his mentality is different and he is focused on a better team and winning. I genuinely tried to remember any player who did this but I can't remember a big player doing such a thing. Good for Harden. There was a huge hype about him in the last season and he played not bad, at least better than how he did in Nets. I like his new attitude.

I like James Harden to stay with the Sixers. He is quite going along well with the team, especially with Joel Embiid. Their duo is even much more effective than the famous Embiid-Simmons duo which turned out to be the worst after several seasons.

Since you have mentioned also that he has the player option for the second year, then it's possible that if the Sixers turned out to be bad next season, James Harden will leave the team and find another one that will suit his needs.

Harden went to Philadelphia because of his personal ties with people in the city. He wants to spend his time there. That's why he took less money to be on the team. He wants to bring a championship to Philly and be the man on the party scene there. For that reason, I don't see him leaving for basketball related reasons. I think his deal was a good one for everyone and I hope that it turns out better than his time in Brooklyn with the Nets experiment.

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Quote from: püsür on July 18, 2022, 02:58:38 PM

There is an interesting article on nba.com about James Harden. I was quite surprised that he is on the verge of making a new deal with his team that instead of getting 46 million dollars next season, he is helping the team and making a deal for two years that will get him 32 million dollars next season, and it includes a player option for the second season. He is really trying to show everyone that his mentality is different and he is focused on a better team and winning. I genuinely tried to remember any player who did this but I can't remember a big player doing such a thing. Good for Harden. There was a huge hype about him in the last season and he played not bad, at least better than how he did in Nets. I like his new attitude.

I like James Harden to stay with the Sixers. He is quite going along well with the team, especially with Joel Embiid. Their duo is even much more effective than the famous Embiid-Simmons duo which turned out to be the worst after several seasons.

Since you have mentioned also that he has the player option for the second year, then it's possible that if the Sixers turned out to be bad next season, James Harden will leave the team and find another one that will suit his needs.

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Westbrook doesn't need to go back to being a triple double guy anymore, but at the very least he could show the team he plays for what he can do. First of all he needs to play with players who are shooters, why? Because Lakers lacked shooters, which meant that everyone was inside (since they can only score inside) and then he had to get inside to score as well to a clogged paint, and had a horrible field goal rating. If he moves to a team with a lot of shooters around him, dude could score inside very easily because paint would be empty. Thats not easy to find. Plus, he had a horrible season and gets a ton of salary, who would wan to give anything at all in return of a player who played badly and gets 40+ million a year?

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Quote from: ultrloa on July 18, 2022, 05:35:58 PM

Even if he do decent numbers still the credit will be on Lebron or Davis so its no used for him to stay at a place where people hate him it will just give him huge pressure and that can affect his gameplay so he really needs to go out on lakers so that he can rebuild his self because if he stay on Lakers for sure nothing will happen to him.

I think it's about people's standards. Regardless of what team will sign Russell Westbrook next season, there will always be hate on this person. Remember when he was shipped to Washington Wizards? Should now be a peaceful environment, at least, but many people or should I say "haters" still keep an eye on him and even considered him as a hindrance for Bradly Beal to carry the team.

Does Westbrook need to rebuild? At this point of his career? No need for it but just do his thing to help the team "consistently".

Going back to his prime days is not that easy to do. There will be really a time that a player will show signs of slowing down in their post-prime period.

Quote from: ultrloa on July 18, 2022, 05:35:58 PM

Even if he do decent numbers still the credit will be on Lebron or Davis

If these happened already on the actual game? When?

Is this only speculation? Not make sense.

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I think Lebron making a big deal out of drew league is not as much of a thing as we think it is. He probably had a little vacation and didn't want to stay at home and that was about it. I do not think that it was anything more than that. Of course it could be to get in shape, btu he could have done that in a much less competitive way, this dude is not just playing basketball in the nba because he wants to make money, of course he is a genius level business person and he made a ton of money so far, but he doesn't care about that anymore if you ask me, being the best basketball player for a few more years wouldn't be that important. I think he just plays because he loves the game so much, like he could continue to play until he is 50 if the teams still get him, and thats the main reason he is in the drew league as well.

Drew league is like Rucker. Every baller wants to play there. It's been a pilgrimage for many nba'ers. At the heart of it these guys are all ballers, they just want to play. And making your mark at Drew is something every baller has on theor bucket list. Don't care if you are in the NBA or not there are just still playground spots that are just as important to basketball just in another way.

Correct, but I will rate Rucker as a bit higher than Drew as it was in Harlem and it has a lot of history as well. And yeah a lot of NBA players wanted to play because they can showcase their talent and you know that New Yorker loves their basketball so it's crazy out there. Lebron, Kobe, Durant and other legendary players at one time in their career has balled on Rucker and it went wild. There are Youtube videos out there for fans who wanted to see the atmosphere and competition in the early 2000s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK6OPqHpyWo - Dr J highlights

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on July 18, 2022, 05:17:26 PM

I think Lebron making a big deal out of drew league is not as much of a thing as we think it is. He probably had a little vacation and didn't want to stay at home and that was about it. I do not think that it was anything more than that. Of course it could be to get in shape, btu he could have done that in a much less competitive way, this dude is not just playing basketball in the nba because he wants to make money, of course he is a genius level business person and he made a ton of money so far, but he doesn't care about that anymore if you ask me, being the best basketball player for a few more years wouldn't be that important. I think he just plays because he loves the game so much, like he could continue to play until he is 50 if the teams still get him, and thats the main reason he is in the drew league as well.

Drew league is like Rucker. Every baller wants to play there. It's been a pilgrimage for many nba'ers. At the heart of it these guys are all ballers, they just want to play. And making your mark at Drew is something every baller has on theor bucket list. Don't care if you are in the NBA or not there are just still playground spots that are just as important to basketball just in another way.

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The problem is that if he stays with the Lakers, it will only be the best option for him, but not for the team.

I see an unmotivated Russ so yes it's bad for the team but it's also bad for him. He really wants to be out that's why he fired his agent who suggested he stays. Westbrook is not some no name and newbie anymore. I think he is already at a point where he cares more where he can play happily than the money he gets.

He's no longer in his prime, so better to play with the team that he will be more comfortable and happy. With how we see him

playing with Lakers, there's nothing to discuss the result itself can dictate how he and the team lacking of trust with each other.

If in this upcoming season he will be landing to a different team, it's best to see him playing the same old Westbrook that we all know.

Taking charge comfortably and not to hesitate as he's thinking of someone that has the alpha tag with the team.

Exactly why I think he doesn't want to stay with the Lakers. Some people just doesn't see it that way and they're tying to downplay the working environment Russ in in right now as if he hasn't experienced the hostility yet. The guy knows what he wants and the style of basketball that he wants to play.

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Saw some article rumor just recently that it's likely that Westbrook will be traded to Spurs while Kyrie to replace him in Lakers.

It seems that you're saying is really possible to happen but until it's official and there's not yet actual statement, it should remain as a rumor. But yeah, it's very likely that he'll be traded if the Lakers decides.

There really is nothing he can do if he'll be traded then.

Looks like he will gonna go somewhere and he should really go because the Lakers fans don't like the guy and if he is still in the Lakers in this upcoming season, it would be the same result for them, they will gonna struggle to sync their play together and with the other teams are drastically improving, they won't a chance to get to the NBA finals or might not get to the NBA playoffs anymore. They really need to fix their roosters while they have the chance because they cannot miss the opportunity they have these days for the upcoming season are hard than the last one because some injured star players are more likely to return.

If he stays in lakers then provably he will get all the blame if the team will be on bad shape so its best for him to go on another team and do more better performance to prove that he's still the mr triple double on NBA. For sure there are other teams showing interest with Westbrook because compare to Irving Westbrook's play more games than Irving.

Depending on his performance, if he will have the same performance as last season, then most likely he will take the blame for the failure of the Lakers. However, it's still the management decision that would matter in the end, if they see that Westbrook isn't fit, then they have to move him through a trade.

Even if he do decent numbers still the credit will be on Lebron or Davis so its no used for him to stay at a place where people hate him it will just give him huge pressure and that can affect his gameplay so he really needs to go out on lakers so that he can rebuild his self because if he stay on Lakers for sure nothing will happen to him.

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I think Lebron making a big deal out of drew league is not as much of a thing as we think it is. He probably had a little vacation and didn't want to stay at home and that was about it. I do not think that it was anything more than that. Of course it could be to get in shape, btu he could have done that in a much less competitive way, this dude is not just playing basketball in the nba because he wants to make money, of course he is a genius level business person and he made a ton of money so far, but he doesn't care about that anymore if you ask me, being the best basketball player for a few more years wouldn't be that important. I think he just plays because he loves the game so much, like he could continue to play until he is 50 if the teams still get him, and thats the main reason he is in the drew league as well.

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Quote from: püsür on July 18, 2022, 02:58:38 PM

There is an interesting article on nba.com about James Harden. I was quite surprised that he is on the verge of making a new deal with his team that instead of getting 46 million dollars next season, he is helping the team and making a deal for two years that will get him 32 million dollars next season, and it includes a player option for the second season. He is really trying to show everyone that his mentality is different and he is focused on a better team and winning. I genuinely tried to remember any player who did this but I can't remember a big player doing such a thing. Good for Harden. There was a huge hype about him in the last season and he played not bad, at least better than how he did in Nets. I like his new attitude.

Much love for Harden.

Many fans are counting him in getting a ring every season and that mindset of his might really bring him to that someday, we don't know when but other teams are also focused on getting that championship ring.

Too many good players out there that haven't got their own rings so hopefully, he's going to be one of those but let's see the other teams now, they are kind of promising and really strong.

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There is an interesting article on nba.com about James Harden. I was quite surprised that he is on the verge of making a new deal with his team that instead of getting 46 million dollars next season, he is helping the team and making a deal for two years that will get him 32 million dollars next season, and it includes a player option for the second season. He is really trying to show everyone that his mentality is different and he is focused on a better team and winning. I genuinely tried to remember any player who did this but I can't remember a big player doing such a thing. Good for Harden. There was a huge hype about him in the last season and he played not bad, at least better than how he did in Nets. I like his new attitude.

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Westbrook is 33 years old already and near to past his prime. He is athletic I agree with that and yes he is one of the most athletic and most explosive guards in the NBA. The problem is that, he doesn't fit with the system.

I agree with this one. Westbrook does not have the same explosiveness that he have before. He is still very athletic compare to others but the explosiveness that he needs to drive into the basket is simply lacking now. He cannot run as fast or jump as high as before.

A common issue to some basketball players that relied only on their speed and strength. That is why more and more players really want to practice their shooting, big man or not, it helps to prolong their careers. Imagine Giannis 10 years from now if he cannot develop his shooting. Although the guy is developing and is somehow smart. Maybe he can play basic simple basketball like Tim Duncan when his body is past its prime. I think Westbrook's ego is also a problem. That would be hard to teach. Even during his younger years with KD and Harden, I think most of the time he's got more attempts than KD and others.

Giannis is already improving on his shooting and is trying to turn into a complete player. He has also started taking 3's since the opponents were just putting men into the paint and not letting him drive through and even when there is space. He's getting battered trying to get to the rim. Which is perfectly fine for a player like him but you cannot do that day in and out.

I don't know... Giannis seems to be a different beast. His thin frame and willingness to put in work along with his past, leaves no doubt that he'll continue doing the work to stay healthy. A guy like Zion Williamson will probably be battling injuries his entire career, but I don't think Giannis will have this problem. I think we'll continue to see him improve for some time and as stated, he'll put in the work to increase his skills as age wears on his athleticism. That's a long way from now though... Giannis still probably hasn't hit his peak and may be a couple of years away still.

I agree giannis was so raw when he came into the league, and agreed he probably hasn't even peaked. Hope we get to see an injury free climb over the next couple of years. He is always one of the players I hate to watch my team against because they literally have no plan to stop him. Imagining him getting better is a real issue for the east.

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Quote from: vennali on July 18, 2022, 10:48:48 AM

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 18, 2022, 01:53:37 AM

Westbrook is 33 years old already and near to past his prime. He is athletic I agree with that and yes he is one of the most athletic and most explosive guards in the NBA. The problem is that, he doesn't fit with the system.

I agree with this one. Westbrook does not have the same explosiveness that he have before. He is still very athletic compare to others but the explosiveness that he needs to drive into the basket is simply lacking now. He cannot run as fast or jump as high as before.

A common issue to some basketball players that relied only on their speed and strength. That is why more and more players really want to practice their shooting, big man or not, it helps to prolong their careers. Imagine Giannis 10 years from now if he cannot develop his shooting. Although the guy is developing and is somehow smart. Maybe he can play basic simple basketball like Tim Duncan when his body is past its prime. I think Westbrook's ego is also a problem. That would be hard to teach. Even during his younger years with KD and Harden, I think most of the time he's got more attempts than KD and others.

Giannis is already improving on his shooting and is trying to turn into a complete player. He has also started taking 3's since the opponents were just putting men into the paint and not letting him drive through and even when there is space. He's getting battered trying to get to the rim. Which is perfectly fine for a player like him but you cannot do that day in and out.

I don't know... Giannis seems to be a different beast. His thin frame and willingness to put in work along with his past, leaves no doubt that he'll continue doing the work to stay healthy. A guy like Zion Williamson will probably be battling injuries his entire career, but I don't think Giannis will have this problem. I think we'll continue to see him improve for some time and as stated, he'll put in the work to increase his skills as age wears on his athleticism. That's a long way from now though... Giannis still probably hasn't hit his peak and may be a couple of years away still.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 18, 2022, 08:10:55 AM

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 18, 2022, 01:53:37 AM

Westbrook is 33 years old already and near to past his prime. He is athletic I agree with that and yes he is one of the most athletic and most explosive guards in the NBA. The problem is that, he doesn't fit with the system.

I agree with this one. Westbrook does not have the same explosiveness that he have before. He is still very athletic compare to others but the explosiveness that he needs to drive into the basket is simply lacking now. He cannot run as fast or jump as high as before.

A common issue to some basketball players that relied only on their speed and strength. That is why more and more players really want to practice their shooting, big man or not, it helps to prolong their careers. Imagine Giannis 10 years from now if he cannot develop his shooting. Although the guy is developing and is somehow smart. Maybe he can play basic simple basketball like Tim Duncan when his body is past its prime. I think Westbrook's ego is also a problem. That would be hard to teach. Even during his younger years with KD and Harden, I think most of the time he's got more attempts than KD and others.

Giannis is already improving on his shooting and is trying to turn into a complete player. He has also started taking 3's since the opponents were just putting men into the paint and not letting him drive through and even when there is space. He's getting battered trying to get to the rim. Which is perfectly fine for a player like him but you cannot do that day in and out.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 18, 2022, 09:47:39 AM

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Anyone heard of James Harden taking a $15 million pay cut with the Sixers?

He basically wanted to have players that can help the team win a championship with him and Joel Embid. Not sure if this is true though, but in any case, it seems James Harden goal next season is to win that championship. He has a lot of individual accolades and for sure he doesn't want to retire without even a ring.

Yeah I read they were redoing his contract. Haven't seen too much of the details but yes less per year so they can open up space for more talent. My guess is he isn't losing money in the deal though in that some sort of signing bonus or some other snaking way to game the system its done all the time to clear cap space. Wonder what the NBA would look like if they had a system like mlb 😵

I just finished reading about it.
https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-james-harden-tells-sixers-sign-who-we-need-to-sign-and-give-me-whatever-is-left-over-with-new-deal-024605439.html

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“I had conversations with Daryl, and it was explained how we could get better and what the market value was for certain players. I told Daryl to improve the roster, sign who we needed to sign and give me whatever is left over,” Harden told Yahoo Sports. “This is how bad I want to win. I want to compete for a championship. That’s all that matters to me at this stage. I’m willing to take less to put us in position to accomplish that.”

This is good news.
Stepping up in a different way. Offer your own salary to strengthen the roster and have a higher chance for a championship.
Someone did this before. Was it Kobe? I forgot, but I remember someone did.
It tells how badly he wants to have that ring. He was near it years ago versus the Warriors and now trying to remake with a better ending with Joel Embiid. It might work.

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Quote from: Baofeng on July 18, 2022, 05:57:32 AM

Anyone heard of James Harden taking a $15 million pay cut with the Sixers?

He basically wanted to have players that can help the team win a championship with him and Joel Embid. Not sure if this is true though, but in any case, it seems James Harden goal next season is to win that championship. He has a lot of individual accolades and for sure he doesn't want to retire without even a ring.

Yeah I read they were redoing his contract. Haven't seen too much of the details but yes less per year so they can open up space for more talent. My guess is he isn't losing money in the deal though in that some sort of signing bonus or some other snaking way to game the system its done all the time to clear cap space. Wonder what the NBA would look like if they had a system like mlb 😵

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Quote from: jakelyson on July 18, 2022, 04:23:42 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 18, 2022, 01:53:37 AM

Westbrook is 33 years old already and near to past his prime. He is athletic I agree with that and yes he is one of the most athletic and most explosive guards in the NBA. The problem is that, he doesn't fit with the system.

I agree with this one. Westbrook does not have the same explosiveness that he have before. He is still very athletic compare to others but the explosiveness that he needs to drive into the basket is simply lacking now. He cannot run as fast or jump as high as before.

A common issue to some basketball players that relied only on their speed and strength. That is why more and more players really want to practice their shooting, big man or not, it helps to prolong their careers. Imagine Giannis 10 years from now if he cannot develop his shooting. Although the guy is developing and is somehow smart. Maybe he can play basic simple basketball like Tim Duncan when his body is past its prime. I think Westbrook's ego is also a problem. That would be hard to teach. Even during his younger years with KD and Harden, I think most of the time he's got more attempts than KD and others.

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Quote from: ultrloa on July 18, 2022, 06:19:09 AM

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Saw some article rumor just recently that it's likely that Westbrook will be traded to Spurs while Kyrie to replace him in Lakers.

It seems that you're saying is really possible to happen but until it's official and there's not yet actual statement, it should remain as a rumor. But yeah, it's very likely that he'll be traded if the Lakers decides.

There really is nothing he can do if he'll be traded then.

Looks like he will gonna go somewhere and he should really go because the Lakers fans don't like the guy and if he is still in the Lakers in this upcoming season, it would be the same result for them, they will gonna struggle to sync their play together and with the other teams are drastically improving, they won't a chance to get to the NBA finals or might not get to the NBA playoffs anymore. They really need to fix their roosters while they have the chance because they cannot miss the opportunity they have these days for the upcoming season are hard than the last one because some injured star players are more likely to return.

If he stays in lakers then provably he will get all the blame if the team will be on bad shape so its best for him to go on another team and do more better performance to prove that he's still the mr triple double on NBA. For sure there are other teams showing interest with Westbrook because compare to Irving Westbrook's play more games than Irving.

Depending on his performance, if he will have the same performance as last season, then most likely he will take the blame for the failure of the Lakers. However, it's still the management decision that would matter in the end, if they see that Westbrook isn't fit, then they have to move him through a trade.

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Quote from: jossiel on July 18, 2022, 05:50:06 AM

Saw some article rumor just recently that it's likely that Westbrook will be traded to Spurs while Kyrie to replace him in Lakers.

It seems that you're saying is really possible to happen but until it's official and there's not yet actual statement, it should remain as a rumor. But yeah, it's very likely that he'll be traded if the Lakers decides.

There really is nothing he can do if he'll be traded then.

Looks like he will gonna go somewhere and he should really go because the Lakers fans don't like the guy and if he is still in the Lakers in this upcoming season, it would be the same result for them, they will gonna struggle to sync their play together and with the other teams are drastically improving, they won't a chance to get to the NBA finals or might not get to the NBA playoffs anymore. They really need to fix their roosters while they have the chance because they cannot miss the opportunity they have these days for the upcoming season are hard than the last one because some injured star players are more likely to return.

If he stays in lakers then provably he will get all the blame if the team will be on bad shape so its best for him to go on another team and do more better performance to prove that he's still the mr triple double on NBA. For sure there are other teams showing interest with Westbrook because compare to Irving Westbrook's play more games than Irving.

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Quote from: jossiel on July 18, 2022, 05:50:06 AM

Saw some article rumor just recently that it's likely that Westbrook will be traded to Spurs while Kyrie to replace him in Lakers.

It seems that you're saying is really possible to happen but until it's official and there's not yet actual statement, it should remain as a rumor. But yeah, it's very likely that he'll be traded if the Lakers decides.

There really is nothing he can do if he'll be traded then.

Looks like he will gonna go somewhere and he should really go because the Lakers fans don't like the guy and if he is still in the Lakers in this upcoming season, it would be the same result for them, they will gonna struggle to sync their play together and with the other teams are drastically improving, they won't a chance to get to the NBA finals or might not get to the NBA playoffs anymore. They really need to fix their roosters while they have the chance because they cannot miss the opportunity they have these days for the upcoming season are hard than the last one because some injured star players are more likely to return.

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