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June 27, 2022, 11:16:51 AM
I watched this year's draft, but I don't know much about the players. Which team do you think won the draft? Did Banchero, Holmgren and Smith qualify for the top three? Players coming out of Duke are generally good. Paolo Banchero was expected to be selected from the 3rd pick, but was selected from the first. On his way to Houston, he suddenly found himself in Orlando.
Maybe we won't see an effect right away, but these players will be the stars of 3-4 years later. Now how Morant, Edwards, Doncic and Young became the stars of the league, their time will also come. I love this aspect of the draft. It can change the fate of teams. There is no such system in Europe, so in every country certain teams always win the championship.
It's still Houston Rockets for me who won the Draft 2022. Both are good forwards but I like Jabari more than him. I dont know if it's because of the weight as Paolo is bigger than Jabari. I like slim players in the forward position more to adapt with the small ball speed like how I picked RJ Barrett over Zion  Williamson at Draft 2019.
Now we could see the results, more injury prone for the bigger man than the slimmer one.
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June 27, 2022, 10:37:45 AM
I watched this year's draft, but I don't know much about the players. Which team do you think won the draft? Did Banchero, Holmgren and Smith qualify for the top three? Players coming out of Duke are generally good. Paolo Banchero was expected to be selected from the 3rd pick, but was selected from the first. On his way to Houston, he suddenly found himself in Orlando.
Maybe we won't see an effect right away, but these players will be the stars of 3-4 years later. Now how Morant, Edwards, Doncic and Young became the stars of the league, their time will also come. I love this aspect of the draft. It can change the fate of teams. There is no such system in Europe, so in every country certain teams always win the championship.
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June 27, 2022, 06:47:16 AM
I saw the news from the GSW management that they'll do everything just to keep Poole and Wiggins. This is a nice step because we've seen how these two added great contribution to the team.

As said, it is what they're prioritizing right now so these two can count on the management and they'll be kept for their upcoming contracts. This is a huge contract for the two and I've forgot the other one which if we will combine the three of them, GSW will cost them $500M+.
That's going o be hard if agents of both players tries to push the envelope. If that happens, GSW will probably choose to keep Poole and let Wiggins go.

At the end of the day, it depends on the priority of the players (another ring or big payday). They already have the ring that only a handful will achieve in their career and they can choose to chase max contracts in other teams now if GSW couldn't convince them to take less.
I guess if that news is the actual of what they've said, they'll keep both of them and they'll flow cash to them and it won't matter as they'll try to reach another ring with the same roster plus some drafted players.
I wish it's as simple as splurging money. Doing everything to keep them both doesn't really mean 'everything'. The amount of the contract each player's agent will demand from GSW management would matter because each team has limits as to how much they could spend every season. Apart from limited resources, we have to remember about salary cap and luxury tax levels. GSW also have to take into consideration the other contracts that will expire beyond 2022-2024 season.
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June 27, 2022, 06:16:16 AM
I saw the news from the GSW management that they'll do everything just to keep Poole and Wiggins. This is a nice step because we've seen how these two added great contribution to the team.

As said, it is what they're prioritizing right now so these two can count on the management and they'll be kept for their upcoming contracts. This is a huge contract for the two and I've forgot the other one which if we will combine the three of them, GSW will cost them $500M+.
That is how the owners sound during the interview in the last part of their parade.
They are sure they want to keep them all even if it means they will spend a lot of money. This will be the biggest luxury tax ever in the league if ever it will be set in stone.
I am sure the roster deserves it as they worked hard for that championship even though they are not on the top of the list of every basketball analyst to be the champion this year. I am also part of those people who didn't expect it. It will be sweeter if they can make another one happen.
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June 27, 2022, 06:15:20 AM
I saw the news from the GSW management that they'll do everything just to keep Poole and Wiggins. This is a nice step because we've seen how these two added great contribution to the team.

As said, it is what they're prioritizing right now so these two can count on the management and they'll be kept for their upcoming contracts. This is a huge contract for the two and I've forgot the other one which if we will combine the three of them, GSW will cost them $500M+.

Yes, they have built another championship caliber, they are called the "death squad' now, with the core + Wiggins and Poole. However, they will be over, and with the huge spending, so not sure how they can keep up with that.

Scottie Pippen Proud Of Son Scotty Pippen Jr. After Signing Two-Way Contract With Lakers.

So second generation of Pippen coming into the Lakers next season. So we will see how good the kid is compare to his father.

We cannot expect much about it because he's not drafted on NBA so meaning he need to improve more so that he became something big in NBA. But knowing lakers and Lebron want's fast process maybe he still cannot get decent minutes on lakers knowing that this team still have good players.

But let see how they improve their skills because somehow people keep looking for their performance to provide on their respective team.
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June 27, 2022, 05:55:51 AM
I saw the news from the GSW management that they'll do everything just to keep Poole and Wiggins. This is a nice step because we've seen how these two added great contribution to the team.

As said, it is what they're prioritizing right now so these two can count on the management and they'll be kept for their upcoming contracts. This is a huge contract for the two and I've forgot the other one which if we will combine the three of them, GSW will cost them $500M+.

Yes, they have built another championship caliber, they are called the "death squad' now, with the core + Wiggins and Poole. However, they will be over, and with the huge spending, so not sure how they can keep up with that.
They've got budget for it so, I guess that's how they're going to keep it up and figure it out. They want to hit the ring again for the next season and that's why they have to pull out cash to retain these two.

Scottie Pippen Proud Of Son Scotty Pippen Jr. After Signing Two-Way Contract With Lakers.

So second generation of Pippen coming into the Lakers next season. So we will see how good the kid is compare to his father.
Congratulations to him, I saw him undrafted but I guess this is what the plan was. How about Harper Jr., where he's going or did a team signed him two way contract?

I saw the news from the GSW management that they'll do everything just to keep Poole and Wiggins. This is a nice step because we've seen how these two added great contribution to the team.

As said, it is what they're prioritizing right now so these two can count on the management and they'll be kept for their upcoming contracts. This is a huge contract for the two and I've forgot the other one which if we will combine the three of them, GSW will cost them $500M+.
That's going o be hard if agents of both players tries to push the envelope. If that happens, GSW will probably choose to keep Poole and let Wiggins go.

At the end of the day, it depends on the priority of the players (another ring or big payday). They already have the ring that only a handful will achieve in their career and they can choose to chase max contracts in other teams now if GSW couldn't convince them to take less.
I guess if that news is the actual of what they've said, they'll keep both of them and they'll flow cash to them and it won't matter as they'll try to reach another ring with the same roster plus some drafted players.
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June 27, 2022, 05:26:58 AM
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Don't forget that when the Lakers acquired Davis, they won the championship.
That was the bubble championship right? Shortened period which makes it less grueling compared to regular season games.

Maybe he is a problem because he is very fragile but I think if the team just know how to manage him, they will be able to benefit in keeping him.
If what you mean by this is less game load, yeah it could probably work. It would put more burden to other players like Lebron/Westbrook to produce more and cover the points though. Maybe if they can find a solid young big to fill in during his absence.

I saw the news from the GSW management that they'll do everything just to keep Poole and Wiggins. This is a nice step because we've seen how these two added great contribution to the team.

As said, it is what they're prioritizing right now so these two can count on the management and they'll be kept for their upcoming contracts. This is a huge contract for the two and I've forgot the other one which if we will combine the three of them, GSW will cost them $500M+.
That's going o be hard if agents of both players tries to push the envelope. If that happens, GSW will probably choose to keep Poole and let Wiggins go.

At the end of the day, it depends on the priority of the players (another ring or big payday). They already have the ring that only a handful will achieve in their career and they can choose to chase max contracts in other teams now if GSW couldn't convince them to take less.
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June 27, 2022, 05:11:34 AM
I saw the news from the GSW management that they'll do everything just to keep Poole and Wiggins. This is a nice step because we've seen how these two added great contribution to the team.

As said, it is what they're prioritizing right now so these two can count on the management and they'll be kept for their upcoming contracts. This is a huge contract for the two and I've forgot the other one which if we will combine the three of them, GSW will cost them $500M+.

Yes, they have built another championship caliber, they are called the "death squad' now, with the core + Wiggins and Poole. However, they will be over, and with the huge spending, so not sure how they can keep up with that.

Scottie Pippen Proud Of Son Scotty Pippen Jr. After Signing Two-Way Contract With Lakers.

So second generation of Pippen coming into the Lakers next season. So we will see how good the kid is compare to his father.
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June 27, 2022, 04:57:58 AM
I saw the news from the GSW management that they'll do everything just to keep Poole and Wiggins. This is a nice step because we've seen how these two added great contribution to the team.

As said, it is what they're prioritizing right now so these two can count on the management and they'll be kept for their upcoming contracts. This is a huge contract for the two and I've forgot the other one which if we will combine the three of them, GSW will cost them $500M+.
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June 27, 2022, 04:40:59 AM
In today's rumors, the Lakers apparently are trying to work a deal to trade Anthony Davis and Russell Westbrook for Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving.  I don't think the Nets would do this, but maybe...  Simmons and Kyrie are headaches while Anthony Davis is considered to be a top tier player with a lot of time left in his career.  With Russell's contract being a negative and Anthony Davis looking to end up in Chicago eventually, I think the Nets would be dumb to do this trade.  LeBron is a fan of Ben Simmons and has won a championship with Kyrie though, so it's a possibility...  With how wacky Simmons and Kyrie are, anything could happen.

It seems to me that this potential deal between the Lakers and Nets will remain just a rumor because Davis and Westbrook for Irving and Simmons look like an unequal trade, and it would be disadvantageous to the Lakers. In addition, there was a contrary rumor a few days ago that the Lakers have no plans to trade Anthony Davis at all.
I don't see why any team would want to keep Anthony Davis or acquire him. He is injured and sits out more then half of every season since entering the NBA. The Lakers are just bleeding money keeping his bum ass.

Don't forget that when the Lakers acquired Davis, they won the championship. Maybe he is a problem because he is very fragile but I think if the team just know how to manage him, they will be able to benefit in keeping him.

It is hard to imagine the Lakers letting go on AD in exchange for 2 divas Kyrie and Simmons. But maybe the Lakers are so desperate while Lebron still has it? If so, then they can get rid on injury prone AD and Westbrick. Kyrie-Lebron might work and if not they can trade Kyrie. Simmons is the problem. He ain't putting buckets while Kyrie and Bron gives him the openings. And it would be hard to trade Simmons knowing his attitude and his $40+ million salary up to 2025.     
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June 27, 2022, 03:54:52 AM
In today's rumors, the Lakers apparently are trying to work a deal to trade Anthony Davis and Russell Westbrook for Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving.  I don't think the Nets would do this, but maybe...  Simmons and Kyrie are headaches while Anthony Davis is considered to be a top tier player with a lot of time left in his career.  With Russell's contract being a negative and Anthony Davis looking to end up in Chicago eventually, I think the Nets would be dumb to do this trade.  LeBron is a fan of Ben Simmons and has won a championship with Kyrie though, so it's a possibility...  With how wacky Simmons and Kyrie are, anything could happen.

It seems to me that this potential deal between the Lakers and Nets will remain just a rumor because Davis and Westbrook for Irving and Simmons look like an unequal trade, and it would be disadvantageous to the Lakers. In addition, there was a contrary rumor a few days ago that the Lakers have no plans to trade Anthony Davis at all.
I don't see why any team would want to keep Anthony Davis or acquire him. He is injured and sits out more then half of every season since entering the NBA. The Lakers are just bleeding money keeping his bum ass.

Don't forget that when the Lakers acquired Davis, they won the championship. Maybe he is a problem because he is very fragile but I think if the team just know how to manage him, they will be able to benefit in keeping him.
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June 27, 2022, 03:28:48 AM
In today's rumors, the Lakers apparently are trying to work a deal to trade Anthony Davis and Russell Westbrook for Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving.  I don't think the Nets would do this, but maybe...  Simmons and Kyrie are headaches while Anthony Davis is considered to be a top tier player with a lot of time left in his career.  With Russell's contract being a negative and Anthony Davis looking to end up in Chicago eventually, I think the Nets would be dumb to do this trade.  LeBron is a fan of Ben Simmons and has won a championship with Kyrie though, so it's a possibility...  With how wacky Simmons and Kyrie are, anything could happen.

It seems to me that this potential deal between the Lakers and Nets will remain just a rumor because Davis and Westbrook for Irving and Simmons look like an unequal trade, and it would be disadvantageous to the Lakers. In addition, there was a contrary rumor a few days ago that the Lakers have no plans to trade Anthony Davis at all.
I don't see why any team would want to keep Anthony Davis or acquire him. He is injured and sits out more then half of every season since entering the NBA. The Lakers are just bleeding money keeping his bum ass.
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June 27, 2022, 03:18:28 AM

I can not see it again even in my history of watching videos, but yeah if this is what Kyrie Irving wants I think he really wants to exit Brooklyn Nets and maybe want to go to the Los Angeles Lakers now because that is what the rumors are saying, ut even though he has down crazy stuff in the past, he is still human and could potentially make mistakes no one is actually perfect but Rumors have said that Irving will be going back in forming a team with Lebron James and Anthony Davis on the Lakers while Kevin Durant would be playing with Damian Lillard on the Portland Trailblazers if this is true then this could be goodbye to Brooklyn Nets,



So he will reunite with Lebron and will eat his words that he left Cleveland because he doesn't want to be the shadow of Lebron James forever, and that's what will happen if he will play with the LA Lakers.  Grin
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June 27, 2022, 02:47:03 AM

But it seems he did the same thing with Durant again? I mean he insistent not to get the vaccine and as a result he misses a lot of games and then disappear in the playoffs agains the Celtics, although we can attribute it to the good defense, but still they are swept in the first round. So not sure about the argument about him being a change person, as we have said, he is selfish. Even him attacking Nike publicly about his shoes and the design or lack of it.

I may be hypnotized when I said Kyrie Irving is a changed person, but again words on Irving's mouth, the change person thing is kind of my opinion only, but he sure said that he regret leaving Lebron James but maybe he is saying this to leave Kevin Durant again, well he actually like drama and to get his motive maybe he is doing some of that interview and confession to gain sympathy and surely there are teams that could potentially fall for that,


Maybe it was somewhere in podcasts of different players that's why you can't see it easily. I am trying to look for it but without luck to find it.


I can not see it again even in my history of watching videos, but yeah if this is what Kyrie Irving wants I think he really wants to exit Brooklyn Nets and maybe want to go to the Los Angeles Lakers now because that is what the rumors are saying, ut even though he has down crazy stuff in the past, he is still human and could potentially make mistakes no one is actually perfect but Rumors have said that Irving will be going back in forming a team with Lebron James and Anthony Davis on the Lakers while Kevin Durant would be playing with Damian Lillard on the Portland Trailblazers if this is true then this could be goodbye to Brooklyn Nets,

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June 27, 2022, 01:38:05 AM
I've been talking with my friends, and one of them said, LeBron James is probably going to leave the Lakers.

is this really true? I confess that I was surprised with this rumor.

Does anyone confirm this? Is it something real?
Some transfers (not necessarily Lebron) have been confirmed by either player agents or team but consider all trade talks as rumors at this point. You can wait for July 1 when teams can officially start these negotiations. When verifying claims and statements, you can simply track them on nba.com or other sports news channels. It's also where most of us get information.

Agreed. Lakers heavily invested already to James since they destroyed there young blood roster just to acquire James and his oldies friends. I doubt Lebron will go on different since he get what he wants on Lakers and also this is the team which his idol(Kobe) become famous and retired. He is chasing the ghost so I believe he will stay on Lakers for a long time. Maybe he will just demand for a better teammates on this upcoming new season.
Oldies friends Cheesy. But you're right that he used his LeGM power last season and get his old friends and now we've seen what happened to them.
This is just a rumor until there are some trade talks happening but LeBron leaving the Lakers? I don't think so and there might be a chance that he will retire there. LeBron doesn't need to go to another team. What he needs is young and talented players who has potential and some all-star players that can help him win a title again. Well, if this happens to be true then I don't know what will happen to the Lakers TBH.
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June 27, 2022, 01:24:07 AM


Lillard won't win a championship even if he surrounds himself with good role players, he needs a superstar to play with him and I think Durant would be a nice pair for Lillard as IMO Lillard is better than Irving in terms of relationship with his teammates.

Durant would most likely to go to the GSW again lol.
That would be an insult to himself because he was the one who left, GSW actually getting rid of high paying players and there was a rumor that they will trade Wiggins to avoid paying luxury tax, so it's not going to happen that they will get Durant.

I wouldn't want Lillard to partner with KD, they still won't gonna win anything unless they add more fire power and defense with their lineup. However, this is most likely not going to happen either. Durant has not showed any interest towards Lillard. And, Lillard on the other hand has no plan on leaving Portland despite of being antsy to the management as they have not been effective in picking up the right pieces to play alongside Lillard. CJ was a good player, but not a perfect fit for Lillard.
I believe the Blazers have the role players to improve their defense, so having Durant and Lillard playing together who are consistent in the offense could make this team great, but it's not guaranteed though as we never know if their chemistry will click.
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June 27, 2022, 12:57:41 AM


Lillard won't win a championship even if he surrounds himself with good role players, he needs a superstar to play with him and I think Durant would be a nice pair for Lillard as IMO Lillard is better than Irving in terms of relationship with his teammates.

Durant would most likely to go to the GSW again lol.
I wouldn't want Lillard to partner with KD, they still won't gonna win anything unless they add more fire power and defense with their lineup. However, this is most likely not going to happen either. Durant has not showed any interest towards Lillard. And, Lillard on the other hand has no plan on leaving Portland despite of being antsy to the management as they have not been effective in picking up the right pieces to play alongside Lillard. CJ was a good player, but not a perfect fit for Lillard.
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June 27, 2022, 12:44:52 AM

Lillard won't win a championship even if he surrounds himself with good role players, he needs a superstar to play with him and I think Durant would be a nice pair for Lillard as IMO Lillard is better than Irving in terms of relationship with his teammates.

Yes, if Blazers can bring KD the chance of winning a title is good, but it will be a long talk and offers from both teams.

Lillard can't do it even Blazers will surround him with good role players unless a superstar who also have a same caliber as him
who can really make a big impact.

Too early to fall from that speculation or rumors about KD's departure, there are many other prospects and trades that may
happen before and on the season start.


It's hard to pass this kind of speculation because KD is a legit superstar, he already won multiple finals MVP and has won rings with the GSW. So now, with Lillard who is also a legit superstar, I have a feeling that Blazers will become a team to watch in the next season, so hopefully this will happen because Lillard deserve to be recognize as well.
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June 27, 2022, 12:31:36 AM

Lillard won't win a championship even if he surrounds himself with good role players, he needs a superstar to play with him and I think Durant would be a nice pair for Lillard as IMO Lillard is better than Irving in terms of relationship with his teammates.

Yes, if Blazers can bring KD the chance of winning a title is good, but it will be a long talk and offers from both teams.

Lillard can't do it even Blazers will surround him with good role players unless a superstar who also have a same caliber as him
who can really make a big impact.

You guys are looking too much for Kevin Durant. KD + Lillard is not a good combination. They both have the same style and do you think Lillard will allow himself to be the number 2 of the Blazers to give way for Durant? That is not going to happen so don't expect Durant is the missing link for Blazers to become a champion.

Blazers are done for. If Lillard wants to feel the experience of being a champion, he should go to another team and not wait for the superstar to come at his team.

That's the only way and I'm totally sure about that.

You said it right, and that's the reason why I say "if" and also I said good chance not concluding that they will win

a title together. I see your point and I don't have any doubt about Lillard moving to another championship caliber team if he
really aiming to win a title before ending his career.

He's not getting any younger and those injuries will affect his capabilities, but again, no one knows what will be his
future plan it's either staying loyal and be the Alpha or trying a different direction.
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June 27, 2022, 12:06:53 AM
I've been talking with my friends, and one of them said, LeBron James is probably going to leave the Lakers.

is this really true? I confess that I was surprised with this rumor.

Does anyone confirm this? Is it something real?
Some transfers (not necessarily Lebron) have been confirmed by either player agents or team but consider all trade talks as rumors at this point. You can wait for July 1 when teams can officially start these negotiations. When verifying claims and statements, you can simply track them on nba.com or other sports news channels. It's also where most of us get information.
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