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Quote from: Russlenat on June 28, 2022, 01:08:58 PM

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Kyrie has opted into his contract with the Nets. He’s secured his bag, now he needs to find a team to trade for him. By opting in, he ends the Lakers speculation that LeBron will get him to sign for the minimum and then get him his Nike deal back.

Good for him. It's the most practical decision to make given all the circumstances. He could still try with KD for another season and split up if they fail. I'm pretty sure Kyrie will still have a good value by then unless he gets seriously injured.

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This is sparking talk that Kevin Durant might join the Suns… That would be interesting. I don’t think it’ll happen, but there’s talks happening…

CP3 and KD in one team is an intriguing proposition to be honest. I would love too see that but it's a tough trade to pull off. Suns will have to give up a lot for this to happen.

Kyrie Irving will always be a valuable asset to any given team that's why there's still teams out there who would want to acquire him but upon acquiring him, they also have to deal with Irving's selfishness and he's thinking that he's that really entitled because of what he can bring to the team.

CP3 and KD in the same jersey is really an interesting to thing to see and lot's of fans are surely want to see it but yes, that will be an expensive acquisition for the Suns and I don't think they can afford to trade their current roster.

Suns are gonna trade Deandre Ayton, if they could work a deal for KD that would be a very impressive team next year. The Suns already had the best record in the West last year, imagine adding KD to CP3 Devin Booker, Crowder, Cameron Payne, and Bridges. Warriors would be in some trouble.

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It looks like Clippers will be pretty aggressive this 2022 free agency. Apart from Wall, they are targeting to add a few more:

Sources: John Wall, Rockets agree to contract buyout; Clippers likely to sign 5-time All-Star in free agency

^ Probably not a bad move if they could get them for cheap. Question now is who are they going to let go to free up the roster for the new guys? I hope the management don't break the core of this team. I think they only need one or two additions before they could challenge for the championship again.

This is a pretty much interesting question who will be out of the boat, I think the player with mostly not active will be eliminated or rather traded to the other team, well, this could lift up the Lost Angles Clippers that is if a 100% healthy Paul George and Kawhi Leonard can play for the next season, that will be great timing for the Clippers to really start with John Wall,

What the Los Angeles Clippers are doing lol. They are already good even without their main players, why push for another injury-prone player? Paul George and Kawhi Leonard are already injury-prone and yet they want to add another player that is injury-prone.

There is no way the Clippers will get Wall's right for cheap. Clippers really want to sacrifice those players who stepped up for them while their highest-paid players Paul George and Kawhi Leonard are on the sideline for long.

Not a good move to me. That aggressiveness is not good. There's no need for rebuilding. John Wall is not even a worthy player to sign with.

This is crappy move I don't know what makes them think that J.wall is a good addition to their team? Maybe they just look at his star status and not his availability. If they push this and aggressively put Wall on their rooster then trade their valuable roosters then maybe this will lead for clippers not win their much important games especially on playoffs. What they need is to add what lacking to their rooster because their current one is already good enough.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on June 28, 2022, 12:37:03 PM

I don't understand why the Clippers should do this if ever it happens.
They did great considering there's no Kawhi, no PG13 at most of their games and still made it to the play-in tournament. 2 big stars, that was what was lost during their fight. Like cutting off the head of a Hydra. No leader and yet they are giving every team a difficult time to win against them.
The Clippers have great role players but they just lack the firepower (well because they are injured) and I don't think John Wall is the answer to that. He is also one player that is prone to injuries. Imagine signing him and then 3 of them are all on the bench being paid. Lips sealed

Clippers fans will be devastated.

I have to agree with you. John Wall is even more injury-prone compared to the Los Angeles Clippers superstars, Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.

Regardless of whether the Clippers will get John Wall for a reasonable contract, they can save those instead to acquire more good role players that will fill the bench. Since when is the last time we saw John Wall playing? Even prior to him being on the baseline for long, he's not getting good numbers for the Houston Rockets. Anyways, according to the shared report, it seems the deal is close to happening.

All I can say is, Houston Rockets made a good move. Not the other way around which is by the Clippers.

Even if they get this John Wall for a reasonable contract, this would be like D. Rose, who is very explosive when playing but due to injuries, rarely seen playing.

Still waiting for the Pistons to make it to the leaderboards.. ..

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Quote from: danherbias07 on June 28, 2022, 12:37:03 PM

I don't understand why the Clippers should do this if ever it happens.
They did great considering there's no Kawhi, no PG13 at most of their games and still made it to the play-in tournament. 2 big stars, that was what was lost during their fight. Like cutting off the head of a Hydra. No leader and yet they are giving every team a difficult time to win against them.
The Clippers have great role players but they just lack the firepower (well because they are injured) and I don't think John Wall is the answer to that. He is also one player that is prone to injuries. Imagine signing him and then 3 of them are all on the bench being paid. Lips sealed

Clippers fans will be devastated.

I have to agree with you. John Wall is even more injury-prone compared to the Los Angeles Clippers superstars, Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.

Regardless of whether the Clippers will get John Wall for a reasonable contract, they can save those instead to acquire more good role players that will fill the bench. Since when is the last time we saw John Wall playing? Even prior to him being on the baseline for long, he's not getting good numbers for the Houston Rockets. Anyways, according to the shared report, it seems the deal is close to happening.

All I can say is, Houston Rockets made a good move. Not the other way around which is by the Clippers.

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Quote from: chaser15 on June 28, 2022, 04:57:26 PM

There is no way the Clippers will get Wall's right for cheap. Clippers really want to sacrifice those players who stepped up for them while their highest-paid players Paul George and Kawhi Leonard are on the sideline for long.

Not a good move to me. That aggressiveness is not good. There's no need for rebuilding. John Wall is not even a worthy player to sign with.

Clippers can only offer him the mid-level exception which if i'm not wrong is anywhere between $3 to $6mil, and it can't be more that a three-year contract.

He will probably get a two-year $6mil deal, it's not that much considering how much is he making this year, $40+ mil. Lol

I'd say it's not a bad move! Rockets will save some money off the contract buyout, Clippers have no depth at the point guard position, and Wall doesn't have to be the primary scorer on that team.

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I guess if that news is the actual of what they've said, they'll keep both of them and they'll flow cash to them and it won't matter as they'll try to reach another ring with the same roster plus some drafted players.

I wish it's as simple as splurging money. Doing everything to keep them both doesn't really mean 'everything'. The amount of the contract each player's agent will demand from GSW management would matter because each team has limits as to how much they could spend every season. Apart from limited resources, we have to remember about salary cap and luxury tax levels. GSW also have to take into consideration the other contracts that will expire beyond 2022-2024 season.

I think it's all set that they'll be giving Poole a 4-years contract for $100-M. That's the latest that I've read but that's not detailed at all and just shown the numbers and such.

Quote from: danherbias07 on June 27, 2022, 06:16:16 AM

That is how the owners sound during the interview in the last part of their parade.
They are sure they want to keep them all even if it means they will spend a lot of money. This will be the biggest luxury tax ever in the league if ever it will be set in stone.
I am sure the roster deserves it as they worked hard for that championship even though they are not on the top of the list of every basketball analyst to be the champion this year. I am also part of those people who didn't expect it. It will be sweeter if they can make another one happen.

Yes, they're not just doing it because the fans want so but they've seen the whole potential of the roster with these two and that's why they're not going to let go of them will try everything they can to keep them.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on June 28, 2022, 10:23:32 AM

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It looks like Clippers will be pretty aggressive this 2022 free agency. Apart from Wall, they are targeting to add a few more:

Sources: John Wall, Rockets agree to contract buyout; Clippers likely to sign 5-time All-Star in free agency

^ Probably not a bad move if they could get them for cheap. Question now is who are they going to let go to free up the roster for the new guys? I hope the management don't break the core of this team. I think they only need one or two additions before they could challenge for the championship again.

This is a pretty much interesting question who will be out of the boat, I think the player with mostly not active will be eliminated or rather traded to the other team, well, this could lift up the Lost Angles Clippers that is if a 100% healthy Paul George and Kawhi Leonard can play for the next season, that will be great timing for the Clippers to really start with John Wall,

What the Los Angeles Clippers are doing lol. They are already good even without their main players, why push for another injury-prone player? Paul George and Kawhi Leonard are already injury-prone and yet they want to add another player that is injury-prone.

There is no way the Clippers will get Wall's right for cheap. Clippers really want to sacrifice those players who stepped up for them while their highest-paid players Paul George and Kawhi Leonard are on the sideline for long.

Not a good move to me. That aggressiveness is not good. There's no need for rebuilding. John Wall is not even a worthy player to sign with.

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Quote from: Russlenat on June 28, 2022, 01:08:58 PM

Kyrie Irving will always be a valuable asset to any given team that's why there's still teams out there who would want to acquire him but upon acquiring him, they also have to deal with Irving's selfishness and he's thinking that he's that really entitled because of what he can bring to the team.

CP3 and KD in the same jersey is really an interesting to thing to see and lot's of fans are surely want to see it but yes, that will be an expensive acquisition for the Suns and I don't think they can afford to trade their current roster.

I think Kyrie hasn't been a net positive for any team he has played since Cavs days. He was in Boston for so many years and he was never really liked there, look at Boston without him right now and how much better they are doing right now. Nets was a short stint so far because of injuries, but I believe that they paid him a good amount of money to make sure that he brings his A game and he failed that too.

All in all, he was last great with Cavs, and ever since then I see him as a Westbrook kind of player who left his comfortable place and destroyed his all career. Kyrie could stay in Nets, but if he leaves he will still be doing the same thing as he is doing in Nets, which is being overvalued for what he brings.

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Kyrie has opted into his contract with the Nets. He’s secured his bag, now he needs to find a team to trade for him. By opting in, he ends the Lakers speculation that LeBron will get him to sign for the minimum and then get him his Nike deal back.

Good for him. It's the most practical decision to make given all the circumstances. He could still try with KD for another season and split up if they fail. I'm pretty sure Kyrie will still have a good value by then unless he gets seriously injured.

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This is sparking talk that Kevin Durant might join the Suns… That would be interesting. I don’t think it’ll happen, but there’s talks happening…

CP3 and KD in one team is an intriguing proposition to be honest. I would love too see that but it's a tough trade to pull off. Suns will have to give up a lot for this to happen.

Kyrie Irving will always be a valuable asset to any given team that's why there's still teams out there who would want to acquire him but upon acquiring him, they also have to deal with Irving's selfishness and he's thinking that he's that really entitled because of what he can bring to the team.

CP3 and KD in the same jersey is really an interesting to thing to see and lot's of fans are surely want to see it but yes, that will be an expensive acquisition for the Suns and I don't think they can afford to trade their current roster.

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I don't see why any team would want to keep Anthony Davis or acquire him. He is injured and sits out more then half of every season since entering the NBA. The Lakers are just bleeding money keeping his bum ass.

Simply because he's the most consistent player, I think in the whole league, that even after an injury or long-hiatus, you can expect him to produce big numbers once he returned which most players can't do. There's no such thing as recovering the rhythm or adjusting to the situation for this guy. If you will do some recap of last season, Anthony Davis always goes rampage once he returns to the court. He's by far the consistent Laker player on the roster.

Even injury-prone, teams are likely to gamble as it is worth it instead of getting good names but showing inconsistencies in the game. Anyways, yes I agree it's a waste that the Lakers can't utilize him much because he is soft. I hope next season, he will remain healthy all year to make the competition tough.

I agree, the LA Lakers would surely keep him because he's a good asset for the team and the team surely doesn't want his skills to be poured in any opponent teams in the league. He may be an injury-prone kind of player but when he plays, he can always give an impressive results with good contributions to the team. The thing that left me curious is why are they still keeping Westbrook? Well, aside from the fact that there's no other team that would gladly have him, this past season really mess up his name because of how he performed.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on June 28, 2022, 02:12:23 AM

It looks like Clippers will be pretty aggressive this 2022 free agency. Apart from Wall, they are targeting to add a few more:

Sources: John Wall, Rockets agree to contract buyout; Clippers likely to sign 5-time All-Star in free agency

^ Probably not a bad move if they could get them for cheap. Question now is who are they going to let go to free up the roster for the new guys? I hope the management don't break the core of this team. I think they only need one or two additions before they could challenge for the championship again.

I don't understand why the Clippers should do this if ever it happens.
They did great considering there's no Kawhi, no PG13 at most of their games and still made it to the play-in tournament. 2 big stars, that was what was lost during their fight. Like cutting off the head of a Hydra. No leader and yet they are giving every team a difficult time to win against them.
The Clippers have great role players but they just lack the firepower (well because they are injured) and I don't think John Wall is the answer to that. He is also one player that is prone to injuries. Imagine signing him and then 3 of them are all on the bench being paid. Lips sealed

Clippers fans will be devastated.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on June 28, 2022, 02:12:23 AM

It looks like Clippers will be pretty aggressive this 2022 free agency. Apart from Wall, they are targeting to add a few more:

Sources: John Wall, Rockets agree to contract buyout; Clippers likely to sign 5-time All-Star in free agency

^ Probably not a bad move if they could get them for cheap. Question now is who are they going to let go to free up the roster for the new guys? I hope the management don't break the core of this team. I think they only need one or two additions before they could challenge for the championship again.

This is a pretty much interesting question who will be out of the boat, I think the player with mostly not active will be eliminated or rather traded to the other team, well, this could lift up the Lost Angles Clippers that is if a 100% healthy Paul George and Kawhi Leonard can play for the next season, that will be great timing for the Clippers to really start with John Wall,

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Obviously, even the other teams passed on the trade package that includes Westbrook in it. The Pacers declined to a trade offer that includes Brogdon. I guess Westbrook is a really hard player to go along with even with his explosiveness.
On the other hands, NBA fans would always thought the best place for Kyrie is to be with LeBron. That would allow them to run another round that might give them another championship, only if AD remains healthy all season long including playoffs.

Westbrook is inconsistent and yes hard to play with he will surely force his way of playing the ball on his own, yes he could be explosive inside the court but it is not with consistency, every time you can not trust him with the ball anymore, and I think Russell Westbrook right now is a risky trade to take, and in my opinion, the Los Angeles Lakers will surely endure another season with Westbrook, and Kyrie Irving might be good for the Lakers but he is also a risky player to trade now, he can be explosive aswell but he will surely play a one-man team if he hasn't developed a chemistry with the Lakers team, but I guess Irving will still be staying until 2023 his contract ends to the Brooklyn Nets,

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Westbrick should be cheap but he is actually $10 million more expensive than Kyrie. I don't know how the Lakers will do this. Or are they really serious to include AD in their trade deals?

Not sure if Lakers will be willing to do this, but if they are really aiming for another caliber roster, Kyrie + LeBron might be a good

1-2 go foundation, though it's still depends on how the future will dictate between these two teams, the offer may come back once the

league starts, changes can be done. After some negotiations, we never know how money will work with these possible deals.

I don't think that they are going to include AD, maybe some of their role players, Lebron and AD will likely to stay for at least one more run next season. We've already seen that Vogel's head was gone, so probably it will be Westbrook next then the veterans and then their role players.

The foundation will remain with Lebron and AD and how they are going to rebuild next season with a new coach. That's what they needed, a fresh start after that disaster last season.

I also don't think that AD will be included, he is valuable as well, and although he has some weaknesses, he can be very useful in the playoffs. If the Lakers would want Davis to be useful in the playoffs, they should do the right load management for him so they will not play heavy minutes in the regular season.

I can't see the Lakers winning a championship with Lebron and Irving only, AD is a very important player for the team.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on June 28, 2022, 07:09:20 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on June 28, 2022, 02:12:23 AM

It looks like Clippers will be pretty aggressive this 2022 free agency. Apart from Wall, they are targeting to add a few more:

Sources: John Wall, Rockets agree to contract buyout; Clippers likely to sign 5-time All-Star in free agency

^ Probably not a bad move if they could get them for cheap. Question now is who are they going to let go to free up the roster for the new guys? I hope the management don't break the core of this team. I think they only need one or two additions before they could challenge for the championship again.

Honestly, the Clippers' performance last season surprised me as they were able to reach the play-in tournament even without their key players. So I agree with you that the Clippers shouldn't change their roster too much, although it's clear that the signing of John Wall would make them much better, and they would have a chance to contend for the title again. Of course, that will only be possible if George and Leonard are healthy and Wall performs as well as he did before.

PG wasn't healthy last season but the Clippers are still winning games, now, if John Wall will join Leonard and PG, I think they will improve especially int he playoffs. I like to see John Wall again doing his thing, because he can lead a team and I hope he will blend well with the two superstars.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on June 28, 2022, 02:12:23 AM

It looks like Clippers will be pretty aggressive this 2022 free agency. Apart from Wall, they are targeting to add a few more:

Sources: John Wall, Rockets agree to contract buyout; Clippers likely to sign 5-time All-Star in free agency

^ Probably not a bad move if they could get them for cheap. Question now is who are they going to let go to free up the roster for the new guys? I hope the management don't break the core of this team. I think they only need one or two additions before they could challenge for the championship again.

Honestly, the Clippers' performance last season surprised me as they were able to reach the play-in tournament even without their key players. So I agree with you that the Clippers shouldn't change their roster too much, although it's clear that the signing of John Wall would make them much better, and they would have a chance to contend for the title again. Of course, that will only be possible if George and Leonard are healthy and Wall performs as well as he did before.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 28, 2022, 05:02:24 AM

Westbrick should be cheap but he is actually $10 million more expensive than Kyrie. I don't know how the Lakers will do this. Or are they really serious to include AD in their trade deals?

Not sure if Lakers will be willing to do this, but if they are really aiming for another caliber roster, Kyrie + LeBron might be a good

1-2 go foundation, though it's still depends on how the future will dictate between these two teams, the offer may come back once the

league starts, changes can be done. After some negotiations, we never know how money will work with these possible deals.

I don't think that they are going to include AD, maybe some of their role players, Lebron and AD will likely to stay for at least one more run next season. We've already seen that Vogel's head was gone, so probably it will be Westbrook next then the veterans and then their role players.

The foundation will remain with Lebron and AD and how they are going to rebuild next season with a new coach. That's what they needed, a fresh start after that disaster last season.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 28, 2022, 05:02:24 AM

Westbrick should be cheap but he is actually $10 million more expensive than Kyrie. I don't know how the Lakers will do this. Or are they really serious to include AD in their trade deals?

Not sure if Lakers will be willing to do this, but if they are really aiming for another caliber roster, Kyrie + LeBron might be a good

1-2 go foundation, though it's still depends on how the future will dictate between these two teams, the offer may come back once the

league starts, changes can be done. After some negotiations, we never know how money will work with these possible deals.

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TNT is reporting that John Wall is going to sign a new deal with the Clippers. I hope this means we’ll actually get to see him play. I must admit, the idea of him alongside Paul George and Kawhi Leonard is pretty intriguing. The Clippers have underperformed expectations pretty wildly since picking up Kawhi. Maybe this will end up being the piece they need to take it to the next level.

Wall, George and Kawhi. A big 3 who is kinda prone to injuries.
Wall injured, George injured as well, Kawhi also got injured against the Jazz and didn't play for one season.

It will be probably the best hope for them to run for a championship, if they will get John Wall. Perhaps just one season to get them all healthy.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on June 28, 2022, 01:53:50 AM

The Clippers are underperforming this last season because of Kawhi being injured and George as well but with this 3 players in one team and alongside good supporting players like Jackson, Kennard, Zubac, maybe they might be a playoff contender team as long as they are healthy. A good PG in Wall and 2 wingers who are good defenders especially Kawhi. Not expecting too much from them because they are injury-prone but this is a playoff-contender team when they're healthy.

They rely on Kahwi, George when healthy can carry the team but he needs a lot of help. Jackson should be the reliable of the the 3. Zubac is under performing at his position. But still a good center for them if they can't get any. Kennard should be given more time specially as a wing man and that added depth to them with someone can shoot outside.

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The Los Angeles Lakers is pretty much interested at first but since Shams Charania has revealed recently that Kyrie Irving is staying on the Brooklyn Nets because he would likely to finish his contract with the Nets, this has sour all faces of the Lakers fans, and have put all rumors into cold chilling ice, and they would likely to withstand Russell Westbrook another season, surely many Lakers fans doesn't want Westbrook in the team anymore.

Obviously, even the other teams passed on the trade package that includes Westbrook in it. The Pacers declined to a trade offer that includes Brogdon. I guess Westbrook is a really hard player to go along with even with his explosiveness.
On the other hands, NBA fans would always thought the best place for Kyrie is to be with LeBron. That would allow them to run another round that might give them another championship, only if AD remains healthy all season long including playoffs.

I think it is misunderstood. Kyrie Irving opt-in to his remaining last year contract with the Nets because there was no better teams that offered better than that $36.5 million. If he opted out, he would became a free agent and the Nets cannot trade him anymore, although it frees their cap. The Nets can now trade Kyrie to the Lakers or any other teams.

Westbrick should be cheap but he is actually $10 million more expensive than Kyrie. I don't know how the Lakers will do this. Or are they really serious to include AD in their trade deals?

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I don't see why any team would want to keep Anthony Davis or acquire him. He is injured and sits out more then half of every season since entering the NBA. The Lakers are just bleeding money keeping his bum ass.

Simply because he's the most consistent player, I think in the whole league, that even after an injury or long-hiatus, you can expect him to produce big numbers once he returned which most players can't do. There's no such thing as recovering the rhythm or adjusting to the situation for this guy. If you will do some recap of last season, Anthony Davis always goes rampage once he returns to the court. He's by far the consistent Laker player on the roster.

Even injury-prone, teams are likely to gamble as it is worth it instead of getting good names but showing inconsistencies in the game. Anyways, yes I agree it's a waste that the Lakers can't utilize him much because he is soft. I hope next season, he will remain healthy all year to make the competition tough.

He is young, that's another fact and this might also be the prime of his career so there's no doubt someone will snatch him if the Lakers let him go.
Injuries now are fixed faster, give a player a year, and later on, he is on the bench cheering and jumping for his team as if nothing happened.
Let's not also forget how he took everything on his shoulder on their bubble championship.
The memory is still fresh when he said "It's all on me." And he did prove it's on him from the unforgettable buzzer-beater 3-point to contributing a lot although he didn't get the Finals MVP.

As I have said previously, perhaps just some chances on his training regimen or even have to go to several sports science doctors might have help him to minimize his injuries. He is still a good player in my opinion, it's just the circumstances around him. So I expect still good things for him when he comes back and hopefully he will still be in the Lakers uniform. And maybe those role players around them will be upgraded so that they can find the perfect fit again.

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