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June 26, 2024, 08:06:29 PM
Anyway, I saw on a Facebook post that the Lakers are interested in getting CP3. Who do you think the Lakers will give just to get the "Point God"?
I haven't seen that yet but if it's going to be a rumor then there is a possibility. He's out of the GSW and he wants to get his first own ring as well.

He almost got it with the Suns but then it didn't happen.

So with the revamp that's happening with the Lakers, coming from the coach, and for the players as well.

There is a chance but don't believe yet with everything that's posted on Facebook.
I just saw it on Facebook, but aside from the Lakers, the Clippers can get CP3 as well in exchange for Paul George. PG13 for CP3 plus other young players like Kuminga and GP2. In that way, the Warriors still have a chance to win the title, but that will cost them Klay Thompson.

As for CP3 going to the Lakers like I said, I guess it's a good trade, but it will depend on which players the Lakers are willing to give to the Warriors. After all, the Lakers also need a reliable Point Guard and don't rely too much on Le-GM in terms of playmaking. Correct me, but they didn't have any good PG's last season aside from Le-GM. Reaves and Russell aren't true PG's but more of a shooting guard for me. Anyway, like you said though, what I saw in Facebook might not be true, but you know that anything can happen during the off-season, right? Cheesy
That looks a promising trade for the Golden State Warriors. But it's true that anything can happen and we don't know if some back deals are already happening.

Recently, John Wall has shown interest to get back to the league whether he gets a play time or not, as long as he's wearing a jersey. He said, it won't matter to him as long as he's in the league.

It's a different case for John Wall though, he has been out because of injuries and I doubt that some team are going to pick him up. We've seen good players, past his prime because of injuries and was not able to come back in the league. So definitely, he will want any team to get him so he can wear a jersey, but the chances are slim.

There's a lot of news around and so we might see a lot in our social media accounts but it could be rumor as we all know that everyone want's a clickbait article. But let's wait and see for this big names and for sure we will see them in new uniform.

It’s been so long since John Wall contributed to a team. I honestly don’t think he could anymore. Not to mention I’m sure his salary would still be high even at the minimum for his time in the league. At his peak he was one of the best point guards to ever do it, but that was a long time ago. I wouldn’t give him another contract…

Exactly, injuries really killed John Wall's career. But during his prime, no one can touch him, he was quick and athletic, and if ever a team will get him, he could just be getting a minimum and so if it better if the will play overseas, maybe he can still make a lot of money.

But the question is still if he can contribute, at least half of what he has during his prime. But him being a injury prone, maybe some teams in Asia or in Europe might be interested of his services, but as far as NBA goes, I highly doubt it as well.
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June 26, 2024, 08:03:30 PM
Knicks once again made a desperation move, and it is showing. Giving up THAT much for Bridges wasn't smart, but they think that they have a decent squad now, and if they can get someone who can fit the team very well, and Bridges does fit very well, then they may actually achieve something.
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Trust me, the Knicks are way better now than what they are 2 seasons ago. This isn't a desperation move coming from the Knicks. They're just utilizing their draft picks just to get a good role player that will help Brunson and Randle carry the team.

They just gave OG Anunoby a 5-year $212M contract, and they also got Bridges. Both of them are very good at defending and that's what the Knicks want. They already have the offensive firepower already, and Bridges can be their center since he's also agile just in case Coach Thibs decides to have a small ball line up. I really didn't expect too much with Bridges when he's in Brooklyn because he's not enough to be the main start of a team. He's more of a good role player, and now he can do it again alongside his college teammates.

Looks like I may have been wrong on the Paul George situation.  Golden State is reportedly offering him a 4 year contract with a max deal attached to it.  I don't see Paul George passing this up.  I'm not sure how well he will fit in with Golden State, but he's a major upgrade from Klay Thompson on both ends of the floor.  I'm not sure where this would leave the Clippers going forward or if this will send Kawhi searching for a new team, but it's definitely interesting.  It would be the first time Steph has a legitimate superstar as a teammate.
The Clippers have one option - match the salary that the Warriors are giving if they want PG13 to stay.
They just extended Kawhi's contract, but they don't want George to give a max contract. PG for me is the best star that's on the trading blocks and if the Warriors get him, they will be giving players like Wiggins, or maybe CP3 if they wanted too but his contract is too much for a player who's injury prone. Nevertheless, it's very exciting to see teams moving already.

I don't know, but this is the best time for me. Teams trading players, and we don't know which player will be going to which team. Cheesy
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June 26, 2024, 07:44:08 PM
Looks like I may have been wrong on the Paul George situation.  Golden State is reportedly offering him a 4 year contract with a max deal attached to it.  I don't see Paul George passing this up.  I'm not sure how well he will fit in with Golden State, but he's a major upgrade from Klay Thompson on both ends of the floor.  I'm not sure where this would leave the Clippers going forward or if this will send Kawhi searching for a new team, but it's definitely interesting.  It would be the first time Steph has a legitimate superstar as a teammate.

What you mean? they have KD and won rings with him and he is the one who put the dagger on Cavs, so I will say that he is a legitimate superstar and most likely a possible hall of famer. But at what cost though if they will get Paul George? Probably they will have to let go of Kuminga and Wiggins and other players too. So it will be a big vacuum to be filled by other players that they will have to get as well to make the roster.

But yeah, it will be interesting, although I believed that this is just the second option for them. For me they are still wooing Klay Thompson with a good deal. A fair deal based on what Thompson has done to them and his performance from last season. If everything breaks, then PG will be the second best option.
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June 26, 2024, 06:10:46 PM
That looks a promising trade for the Golden State Warriors. But it's true that anything can happen and we don't know if some back deals are already happening.

Recently, John Wall has shown interest to get back to the league whether he gets a play time or not, as long as he's wearing a jersey. He said, it won't matter to him as long as he's in the league.

It's a different case for John Wall though, he has been out because of injuries and I doubt that some team are going to pick him up. We've seen good players, past his prime because of injuries and was not able to come back in the league. So definitely, he will want any team to get him so he can wear a jersey, but the chances are slim.

There's a lot of news around and so we might see a lot in our social media accounts but it could be rumor as we all know that everyone want's a clickbait article. But let's wait and see for this big names and for sure we will see them in new uniform.
And there goes one big now.

OG Anunoby[1] agreed to sign with still New York Knicks for a $212.5M deal for 5 years. This is a wise move for the Knicks and as well as OG.

As long as the price is right, they're going to make these deals very fair and easy.

[1] https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/og-anunoby-staying-with-knicks-star-defender-set-to-sign-five-year-212-5-million-contract-per-reports/
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June 26, 2024, 05:37:16 PM
Looks like I may have been wrong on the Paul George situation.  Golden State is reportedly offering him a 4 year contract with a max deal attached to it.  I don't see Paul George passing this up.  I'm not sure how well he will fit in with Golden State, but he's a major upgrade from Klay Thompson on both ends of the floor.  I'm not sure where this would leave the Clippers going forward or if this will send Kawhi searching for a new team, but it's definitely interesting.  It would be the first time Steph has a legitimate superstar as a teammate.
Whilst Klay is still on the negotiation with them. It seems that the Golden State will pass on Klay if he don't accept their offer to him.

Anyway, if this is going to be in the contracts and they've offered PG with a max contract. That might hit Klay's ego that he's been with them and they can't give him the max 3 years contract that he's asking.

PG seems to be really fitting the role of Klay.
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June 26, 2024, 04:35:02 PM
Looks like I may have been wrong on the Paul George situation.  Golden State is reportedly offering him a 4 year contract with a max deal attached to it.  I don't see Paul George passing this up.  I'm not sure how well he will fit in with Golden State, but he's a major upgrade from Klay Thompson on both ends of the floor.  I'm not sure where this would leave the Clippers going forward or if this will send Kawhi searching for a new team, but it's definitely interesting.  It would be the first time Steph has a legitimate superstar as a teammate.
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June 26, 2024, 12:29:22 PM
Knicks once again made a desperation move, and it is showing. Giving up THAT much for Bridges wasn't smart, but they think that they have a decent squad now, and if they can get someone who can fit the team very well, and Bridges does fit very well, then they may actually achieve something.

But the reality is that, they aren't going to become a championship contender just with this trade, that's not nearly enough at all, they are not better than at least 2 or 3 other teams at east, and they just lost their future. Worst thing is, if this somehow doesn't work out, they do not have their future for a while as well, and it will end up hurting them more than they would want to. That is why it's quite bad trade if you ask me.
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June 26, 2024, 10:57:00 AM
I’m reading now that the Houston Rockets think they’re going to be able to trade the Suns picks back to them and get Durant in exchange… They’re tripping. I can’t even believe this is being reported on as a possibility. What do you think? Are the Suns ready to end the Durant experiment for some draft picks already?

No way! I say one more season before considering to let go on Kevin Durant. Or at least let Durant play in the start of the season and if they continue to struggle then maybe they can consider trading him before the deadline next year.

But if I am the manager of the Phoenix Suns, I'll be more focused on dealing Bradley Beal first before touching Kevin Durant. Bradley Beal is worth $160 million in the next three seasons. That is so heavy for the team especially if Beal continues to get injured or fails to perform.

True, I think Bradley is the real problem, but the question is, will any team be willing to accept the trade for Beal? With his declining performance, I think the Suns will be the last team to absorb that problem and if Beal will continue to play the way he played last season, it will be the same result also for them.

When Durant came in to the team, they reach the Western semi finals IIRC, so we can compare that last season was a decline of their performance, and considering they added Beal to form a big 3.

Now Dallas is saying they want to pick up Durant. For a guy that supposedly isn’t on the trading block, the Suns seem to be getting a lot of trade interest for Durant. As much as I like the idea of LeBron and Durant going to Dallas to team up with Kyrie and Luka, I’d bet that all these guys will be on their same teams come opening day.
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June 26, 2024, 08:29:36 AM
Brooklyn trying to build young core like thunder did by trading mikal bridges for for Bojan Bogdanovic, four unprotected first-round picks, a protected first-round pick via Bucks, an unprotected pick swap and a second-rounder.

More details about the trade:
https://x.com/wojespn/status/1805782619382063592

I think the Nets win this trade. Mikal bridges is not consistent, I don't see any potential of this guy. Also don't know the reason why Knicks still need a PG/SG
There's a reason for this trade. Keyword: Villanova.

Now it's not a trio anymore but a quad. I think the Knicks are trying to build chemistry in a faster way by rejoining the Villanova players. When it comes to who is the winner with the trade, I think the Knicks won. They badly need a player who can play defense who is taller and longer than Josh Hart.
Remember the last playoffs when OG Anunoby was hurt, they are crippled in the defense under the rim and Hart was damn exhausted by the switches that will happen and then playing 40+ minutes.
They will play small ball which I think is also a good idea on why they took Bridges. He ain't slow despite his height and length and he can also shoot outside shots.
This gives more room for Brunson to do his attack on the paint style of play as Bridges can also spread the floor.

I think what Mikal Bridges could contribute to the team is more on his offense than his defense. The Knicks will benefit from his good three-point shooting and mid-range game, as he was very effective with the Nets last season. In my opinion, he was one of the top scorers on the team, but the Nets are probably trying to rebuild rather than focus on the current roster.

Now that Mikal Bridges is with the Knicks, he is part of a team that is a championship contender. I think the Knicks' defense will give the Celtics competition next season, so hopefully, they will not be unlucky again with injuries.
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June 26, 2024, 07:52:52 AM
Brooklyn trying to build young core like thunder did by trading mikal bridges for for Bojan Bogdanovic, four unprotected first-round picks, a protected first-round pick via Bucks, an unprotected pick swap and a second-rounder.

More details about the trade:
https://x.com/wojespn/status/1805782619382063592

I think the Nets win this trade. Mikal bridges is not consistent, I don't see any potential of this guy. Also don't know the reason why Knicks still need a PG/SG
There's a reason for this trade. Keyword: Villanova.

Now it's not a trio anymore but a quad. I think the Knicks are trying to build chemistry in a faster way by rejoining the Villanova players. When it comes to who is the winner with the trade, I think the Knicks won. They badly need a player who can play defense who is taller and longer than Josh Hart.
Remember the last playoffs when OG Anunoby was hurt, they are crippled in the defense under the rim and Hart was damn exhausted by the switches that will happen and then playing 40+ minutes.
They will play small ball which I think is also a good idea on why they took Bridges. He ain't slow despite his height and length and he can also shoot outside shots.
This gives more room for Brunson to do his attack on the paint style of play as Bridges can also spread the floor.
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June 26, 2024, 07:33:49 AM
I’m reading now that the Houston Rockets think they’re going to be able to trade the Suns picks back to them and get Durant in exchange… They’re tripping. I can’t even believe this is being reported on as a possibility. What do you think? Are the Suns ready to end the Durant experiment for some draft picks already?

No way! I say one more season before considering to let go on Kevin Durant. Or at least let Durant play in the start of the season and if they continue to struggle then maybe they can consider trading him before the deadline next year.

But if I am the manager of the Phoenix Suns, I'll be more focused on dealing Bradley Beal first before touching Kevin Durant. Bradley Beal is worth $160 million in the next three seasons. That is so heavy for the team especially if Beal continues to get injured or fails to perform.

True, I think Bradley is the real problem, but the question is, will any team be willing to accept the trade for Beal? With his declining performance, I think the Suns will be the last team to absorb that problem and if Beal will continue to play the way he played last season, it will be the same result also for them.

When Durant came in to the team, they reach the Western semi finals IIRC, so we can compare that last season was a decline of their performance, and considering they added Beal to form a big 3.
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June 26, 2024, 06:43:41 AM
I’m reading now that the Houston Rockets think they’re going to be able to trade the Suns picks back to them and get Durant in exchange… They’re tripping. I can’t even believe this is being reported on as a possibility. What do you think? Are the Suns ready to end the Durant experiment for some draft picks already?

No way! I say one more season before considering to let go on Kevin Durant. Or at least let Durant play in the start of the season and if they continue to struggle then maybe they can consider trading him before the deadline next year.

But if I am the manager of the Phoenix Suns, I'll be more focused on dealing Bradley Beal first before touching Kevin Durant. Bradley Beal is worth $160 million in the next three seasons. That is so heavy for the team especially if Beal continues to get injured or fails to perform.
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Chris Paul’s contract has one year remaining, with the total $30 million value being non-guaranteed.

https://warriorswire.usatoday.com/2024/06/25/warriors-keeping-options-open-with-chris-pauls-contract-situation/

So it's possible that if ever he will be traded, and Lakers wanted to get him, it will be around that same dollar number.

The Warriors should solve the situation with Paul's contract by June 28, and, as far as I know, the 30 million for next season is not a guaranteed part of his contract. Moreover, there are rumors that the Warriors may waive him and then Paul will become a free agent. If so, it seems to me that the Lakers will probably take him and offer him the veteran's minimum or something like that.

It will be scary for other team if they successfully acquire George so it will matter now on negotiation will happen. But I also I think I heard that they provably let go Looney this season which I think bad for their team since they would lose again a hard working big man on their team. In that case they would lose rebounding if they let Looney go.

I guess Warriors still not done with their small ball rotation and just add some shooter in presence of George so let see what will be the outcome of their deals if those rumors would really happen. Also hopefully they can convince Klay to commit back on their team since Warriors would be more deadly if they can retain their core players plus they successfully add George into their rotation.

Yeah, it will be sad to see Looney go, however, in the last season, not sure what happen but it seems Steve Kerr prioritize the young Trayce Jackson-Davis more than the veteran Looney. So his numbers drop this season and I think his contract will expire.

And if that happens, there will be a lot of Warriors not coming back for next season and it will be a total different new team with Curry on top with a lot of new faces surrounding him to chase another ring.
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Chris Paul’s contract has one year remaining, with the total $30 million value being non-guaranteed.

https://warriorswire.usatoday.com/2024/06/25/warriors-keeping-options-open-with-chris-pauls-contract-situation/

So it's possible that if ever he will be traded, and Lakers wanted to get him, it will be around that same dollar number.

The Warriors should solve the situation with Paul's contract by June 28, and, as far as I know, the 30 million for next season is not a guaranteed part of his contract. Moreover, there are rumors that the Warriors may waive him and then Paul will become a free agent. If so, it seems to me that the Lakers will probably take him and offer him the veteran's minimum or something like that.

It will be scary for other team if they successfully acquire George so it will matter now on negotiation will happen. But I also I think I heard that they provably let go Looney this season which I think bad for their team since they would lose again a hard working big man on their team. In that case they would lose rebounding if they let Looney go.

I guess Warriors still not done with their small ball rotation and just add some shooter in presence of George so let see what will be the outcome of their deals if those rumors would really happen. Also hopefully they can convince Klay to commit back on their team since Warriors would be more deadly if they can retain their core players plus they successfully add George into their rotation.
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June 26, 2024, 04:12:12 AM
I don't like the idea of it, CP3 is old and it is showing, he is now prone to injuries. And it's kinda late though, I mean he was reported to be moving to Lakers with the Kobe era that was vetoed by David Stern.

Lakers should be getting young players to beef up their roster not an old and veteran CP3, they still have Lebron to lead them and that will be enough. Surround him and AD with young and very hungry young players willing to sacrifice their bodies just to win a ring.
What we need to remember is that CP3 will not be getting paid the big bucks anymore, he is old and he will get probably the vet minimum. And while he may not be great and old and showing, that still doesn't mean that he worths nothing. I think we could all agree that if they paid him the minimum, he will definitely provide something that is more than the minimum and it will be a nice situation without a doubt.

I think the best way to approach this right now would be just get him as cheap as they can, and be happy about it, but do not assume that they will be great just because of him. Plus they have Lebron as playmaker, so CP3 could only be great when Lebron is not on the floor, otherwise both together would not fit very well.

Just another bad decision for the Lakers though if he get him even at cheap price, we've seen that in Warriors already, then take the risk and it didn't paid off in the end that's why the are going to offload him.

And he is not a veteran minimum, his contract in the Warriors is

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Chris Paul’s contract has one year remaining, with the total $30 million value being non-guaranteed.

https://warriorswire.usatoday.com/2024/06/25/warriors-keeping-options-open-with-chris-pauls-contract-situation/

So it's possible that if ever he will be traded, and Lakers wanted to get him, it will be around that same dollar number.

If they are willing to take that risk and they are seeing potential bringing old stars and combining him with his fellow future hall of famer, hahaha, they really love bringing players for the sake of advertisement but in terms of competitiveness, I guess they are riskin that factor since young stars now a days are both bigs and skillful, they can outrun their opponents and they can take that outside shots, plus they are also improving their defense to make it sure that they really bring that 2-way player types to survive in this league.
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Chris Paul’s contract has one year remaining, with the total $30 million value being non-guaranteed.

https://warriorswire.usatoday.com/2024/06/25/warriors-keeping-options-open-with-chris-pauls-contract-situation/

So it's possible that if ever he will be traded, and Lakers wanted to get him, it will be around that same dollar number.

The Warriors should solve the situation with Paul's contract by June 28, and, as far as I know, the 30 million for next season is not a guaranteed part of his contract. Moreover, there are rumors that the Warriors may waive him and then Paul will become a free agent. If so, it seems to me that the Lakers will probably take him and offer him the veteran's minimum or something like that.
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June 26, 2024, 01:33:10 AM
I’m reading now that the Houston Rockets think they’re going to be able to trade the Suns picks back to them and get Durant in exchange… They’re tripping. I can’t even believe this is being reported on as a possibility. What do you think? Are the Suns ready to end the Durant experiment for some draft picks already?
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Don’t sleep on Mikal Bridges going to the Knicks. I think he’s a great fit for them and will really help their team get to the next level. He was great in Phoenix and showed flashes of brilliance for the Nets. I expect good things for him in the coming year. Great move for the Knicks. He can carry a team.

Definitely a great decision for the Knicks, they reach at a high level in the playoffs, could have went to ECF if they don't have an injury. But that was a good experience that they will carry and will sure do better by next season. With the current  lineup of the team, playoffs is already guaranteed to them, so I'm excited with this changes because once again Mikal Bridges is with a playoff team and he deserve that as he is a decent player.
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June 25, 2024, 11:21:27 PM
Don’t sleep on Mikal Bridges going to the Knicks. I think he’s a great fit for them and will really help their team get to the next level. He was great in Phoenix and showed flashes of brilliance for the Nets. I expect good things for him in the coming year. Great move for the Knicks. He can carry a team.
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June 25, 2024, 09:51:56 PM
Brooklyn trying to build young core like thunder did by trading mikal bridges for for Bojan Bogdanovic, four unprotected first-round picks, a protected first-round pick via Bucks, an unprotected pick swap and a second-rounder.

More details about the trade:
https://x.com/wojespn/status/1805782619382063592

I think the Nets win this trade. Mikal bridges is not consistent, I don't see any potential of this guy. Also don't know the reason why Knicks still need a PG/SG
I just posted a few hours ago, and normally, that's not what I'm doing, but MAN!!! I really got excited on this trade TBH.
This is the power of having many draft picks. You can get a potential all-star player in exchange for some role players plus some draft picks and that's what the Knicks did.

As for the Bridges being inconsistent on Brooklyn, I believe it's because he's not enough to be considered as the main player of an average team. He's not on the level of Luka, or SGA where they can just literally do everything for their team. Bridges for me is kind of like a role player but has a big role for the team. Kind of like Aaron Gordon of the Nuggets, or Derrick White of the Celtics.

As for who won this trade. I believe it's the Knicks and I'll try to explain. Those draft picks are unprotected, and you don't know will be their future. As for the Knicks, just imagine having Brunson, Randle, Anunoby, and now Bridges all on the same team. Aside from that, you also have good role players like Hart, and DiVincenzo. It's too early to say this, but the Knicks might be the one team that those Eastern Conference teams must watch out with. With their upgrade, they're better than the Bucks right now, but not on par with the Celtics. No offense with your opinion though. Smiley

Bridges will not play as a PG/SG on the Knicks. He's a defender when he's still on Phoenix, so he's more of a SF or PF player since they're lacking wing players.
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