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I don't know but I have a feeling that Randle won't be the same again after the multiply injuries that he had suffered already and for me, Brunson now is the new leader of the team and no longer Julius. Not sure how long is Randle's contract with the Knicks, but if everything falls out for him next season, he might be in the discussion for a trade.

The Knicks will likely trade Randle because they've already proven they are still a great team without him. I mean, Randle's contract is huge, and the team could sign more players if they let him go or accept a trade. And yes, it should be Brunson who leads the team as his leadership is very effective. As a point guard, he makes great decisions that get everyone involved. If they were healthy last playoffs, I think they could have given a good series to Boston and might have even won the NBA finals as Dallas didn't turn out to be that strong.

Brunson gave them good spot from their last campaign I also think that he deserve that treatment, not unless there's something left for Randle in terms of leadership, more on how the coach side whether how they'll going to control the ball if who's going to take charge, hopefully they'll manage to work togehter for the betterment of the team.

We will find it out this upcoming season if how NYK will perform and if they'll be able to move forward and be a good contender of the title, still a long way for them to catch up and established that bond playing together.

Provably he will get more better attention than anyone else in the roster. He is there star player and already proven that he could able to bring his team in different level. But also for sure they still have good faith on Randle since he's still a good player. For sure that they look forward for better run especially that he's back on their line up. But in case he can't contribute the way how Knicks wanted to him then I guess all discussions about trading him might came true. But its early to discuss about that since for sure Randle is also hungry to get back on court so provably he provably do all he can just to provide a good contribution for his team. Also yeah we will just find this up in next season if everything will be good in side of Knicks.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on July 31, 2024, 06:15:02 AM

I don't know but I have a feeling that Randle won't be the same again after the multiply injuries that he had suffered already and for me, Brunson now is the new leader of the team and no longer Julius. Not sure how long is Randle's contract with the Knicks, but if everything falls out for him next season, he might be in the discussion for a trade.

The Knicks will likely trade Randle because they've already proven they are still a great team without him. I mean, Randle's contract is huge, and the team could sign more players if they let him go or accept a trade. And yes, it should be Brunson who leads the team as his leadership is very effective. As a point guard, he makes great decisions that get everyone involved. If they were healthy last playoffs, I think they could have given a good series to Boston and might have even won the NBA finals as Dallas didn't turn out to be that strong.

Brunson gave them good spot from their last campaign I also think that he deserve that treatment, not unless there's something left for Randle in terms of leadership, more on how the coach side whether how they'll going to control the ball if who's going to take charge, hopefully they'll manage to work togehter for the betterment of the team.

We will find it out this upcoming season if how NYK will perform and if they'll be able to move forward and be a good contender of the title, still a long way for them to catch up and established that bond playing together.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on July 31, 2024, 06:15:02 AM

I don't know but I have a feeling that Randle won't be the same again after the multiply injuries that he had suffered already and for me, Brunson now is the new leader of the team and no longer Julius. Not sure how long is Randle's contract with the Knicks, but if everything falls out for him next season, he might be in the discussion for a trade.

The Knicks will likely trade Randle because they've already proven they are still a great team without him. I mean, Randle's contract is huge, and the team could sign more players if they let him go or accept a trade. And yes, it should be Brunson who leads the team as his leadership is very effective. As a point guard, he makes great decisions that get everyone involved. If they were healthy last playoffs, I think they could have given a good series to Boston and might have even won the NBA finals as Dallas didn't turn out to be that strong.

Randle's contract isn't that huge. He will get $30 million for the upcoming season, and the 25/26 season is already a player option in his contract. I think this upcoming season will be important for Randle in terms of his future career. If Randle performs as well as he did before his injury, the Knicks may re-sign him next offseason. However, if his performance is mediocre, the Knicks will probably get rid of him.

Maybe this upcoming season will be a test for their team if he became more better if Randle is back on their roster and also if he could able to perform well again. But if he cannot get back to his old form and became a liability for Knicks then provably he might end up getting traded since for sure Knicks would find more quality player that can help them to became a contender team again.

But Randle still 29 years old so maybe he could able to recover from last injury he got. But let see what will happen to Knicks if they can reach far again since their last run is already a great achievement for their team. We can see that they have good potential especially if their players are all healthy.

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I don't know but I have a feeling that Randle won't be the same again after the multiply injuries that he had suffered already and for me, Brunson now is the new leader of the team and no longer Julius. Not sure how long is Randle's contract with the Knicks, but if everything falls out for him next season, he might be in the discussion for a trade.

The Knicks will likely trade Randle because they've already proven they are still a great team without him. I mean, Randle's contract is huge, and the team could sign more players if they let him go or accept a trade. And yes, it should be Brunson who leads the team as his leadership is very effective. As a point guard, he makes great decisions that get everyone involved. If they were healthy last playoffs, I think they could have given a good series to Boston and might have even won the NBA finals as Dallas didn't turn out to be that strong.

Randle's contract isn't that huge. He will get $30 million for the upcoming season, and the 25/26 season is already a player option in his contract. I think this upcoming season will be important for Randle in terms of his future career. If Randle performs as well as he did before his injury, the Knicks may re-sign him next offseason. However, if his performance is mediocre, the Knicks will probably get rid of him.

Brunson currently at the top of the list in the payroll, so he is expected to get a bigger contract if he gets re-signed.
About his stats. average 24PPG last season, I think that is very much acceptable.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/randlju01.html

However, since he was injured, he'll be tested in the season to come if he could still deliver the same number, if his numbers will drop significantly, then most likely he won't be in the Knicks uniform once the contract expires.

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I don't know but I have a feeling that Randle won't be the same again after the multiply injuries that he had suffered already and for me, Brunson now is the new leader of the team and no longer Julius. Not sure how long is Randle's contract with the Knicks, but if everything falls out for him next season, he might be in the discussion for a trade.

The Knicks will likely trade Randle because they've already proven they are still a great team without him. I mean, Randle's contract is huge, and the team could sign more players if they let him go or accept a trade. And yes, it should be Brunson who leads the team as his leadership is very effective. As a point guard, he makes great decisions that get everyone involved. If they were healthy last playoffs, I think they could have given a good series to Boston and might have even won the NBA finals as Dallas didn't turn out to be that strong.

Randle's contract isn't that huge. He will get $30 million for the upcoming season, and the 25/26 season is already a player option in his contract. I think this upcoming season will be important for Randle in terms of his future career. If Randle performs as well as he did before his injury, the Knicks may re-sign him next offseason. However, if his performance is mediocre, the Knicks will probably get rid of him.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 30, 2024, 10:02:04 PM

I don't know but I have a feeling that Randle won't be the same again after the multiply injuries that he had suffered already and for me, Brunson now is the new leader of the team and no longer Julius. Not sure how long is Randle's contract with the Knicks, but if everything falls out for him next season, he might be in the discussion for a trade.

The Knicks will likely trade Randle because they've already proven they are still a great team without him. I mean, Randle's contract is huge, and the team could sign more players if they let him go or accept a trade. And yes, it should be Brunson who leads the team as his leadership is very effective. As a point guard, he makes great decisions that get everyone involved. If they were healthy last playoffs, I think they could have given a good series to Boston and might have even won the NBA finals as Dallas didn't turn out to be that strong.

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 30, 2024, 08:49:24 PM

^^ Yeah, it was a surprised why only 1 year did the Knicks offered to Precious Achiuwa, he is a two way player though. So he can offer defense and at the same time play offense as well. Perhaps it was more of the salary cap for them and so the offer was just for a year and then see how it goes.

They already have so much fire power and when Randle return they will have a lot of options. So they should have focus on defense. But if you have to look at it, they are in the top 5 in defense already. And as far as Boston defense? They are the top team so you are right about defense winning championships.

Maybe the Knicks isn't impressed that much in how he played last season with them, but they need a good defender since Hartenstein already went to the Thunder. If they will not get a big to defend the paint, I'll believe that this Knicks will rely on small ball which I don't know if it's still relevant until now.

Achiuwa's averaged 7.6 points, 7.2 rebounds, 1.1 assists and 1.1 blocks in 24.2 minutes based on the official website of ESPN. Not a bad stats knowing that he's playing very limited time. He's a good 2nd unit, but he can be their starting center for the upcoming season. As for Randle, many look at him as a superstar and there's nothing wrong about it, but he only got those good stats because of his shot volume. He averaged more than 15 shots per game, and his defense isn't that good as well (for me) so I will not be surprised if the Knicks will try to trade him if he plays bad in the upcoming season.

Still a good catch for the Knicks, I think it will be Mitchell Robinson who will be their starting center assuming he is healthy since Hartenstein has move to Thunder. So still a good player at PF to Center position for the Knicks.

I don't know but I have a feeling that Randle won't be the same again after the multiply injuries that he had suffered already and for me, Brunson now is the new leader of the team and no longer Julius. Not sure how long is Randle's contract with the Knicks, but if everything falls out for him next season, he might be in the discussion for a trade.

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 30, 2024, 08:49:24 PM

^^ Yeah, it was a surprised why only 1 year did the Knicks offered to Precious Achiuwa, he is a two way player though. So he can offer defense and at the same time play offense as well. Perhaps it was more of the salary cap for them and so the offer was just for a year and then see how it goes.

They already have so much fire power and when Randle return they will have a lot of options. So they should have focus on defense. But if you have to look at it, they are in the top 5 in defense already. And as far as Boston defense? They are the top team so you are right about defense winning championships.

Maybe the Knicks isn't impressed that much in how he played last season with them, but they need a good defender since Hartenstein already went to the Thunder. If they will not get a big to defend the paint, I'll believe that this Knicks will rely on small ball which I don't know if it's still relevant until now.

Achiuwa's averaged 7.6 points, 7.2 rebounds, 1.1 assists and 1.1 blocks in 24.2 minutes based on the official website of ESPN. Not a bad stats knowing that he's playing very limited time. He's a good 2nd unit, but he can be their starting center for the upcoming season. As for Randle, many look at him as a superstar and there's nothing wrong about it, but he only got those good stats because of his shot volume. He averaged more than 15 shots per game, and his defense isn't that good as well (for me) so I will not be surprised if the Knicks will try to trade him if he plays bad in the upcoming season.

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^^ Yeah, it was a surprised why only 1 year did the Knicks offered to Precious Achiuwa, he is a two way player though. So he can offer defense and at the same time play offense as well. Perhaps it was more of the salary cap for them and so the offer was just for a year and then see how it goes.

They already have so much fire power and when Randle return they will have a lot of options. So they should have focus on defense. But if you have to look at it, they are in the top 5 in defense already. And as far as Boston defense? They are the top team so you are right about defense winning championships.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on July 30, 2024, 08:02:09 AM

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I doubt they will be defeated even once in this qualifying event and until the finals. It's just hard to imagine a team defeating them unless they get careless.

With so many all-star players on the roster, it's almost unrealistic that they will suffer even one loss in this tournament. Even assuming KD and LeBron play poorly in a single game, the US team still has other players capable of taking on any opposing team in this tournament.

Very possible that they won't lose any of the game even if 2 or 3 stars are off night. There's just too much firepower in their arsenal. Heck, Anthony Edwards is already a big threat, and putting in Steph Curry and Davis changes everything.

https://x.com/wojespn/status/1818398396824031431

One-year only.
I don't know why but I thought he did great when OG was hurt especially on the defensive end. I mean, there could've been a better contract or they don't have the cap space anymore. But I do believe the New York Knicks are too focused on offensive firepower instead of getting defensive players. Well, I think it is wrong because the Celtics ain't like that. Boston has been playing great defense which is why they are the champions. Defense wins championships.

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This is the KD that we had all admired. Just wow, magic hands but this doesn't happen at all times. Congratulations to the team USA.

Tatum seems heated the seat.

The way KD is carrying Team USA is far different from how he played last season with the Phoenix Suns. He's performing better in the Olympics than in the NBA playoffs. I can't imagine KD did that, never missing a shot in the first half. I think he is the first one to achieve that in the Olympics with over 8 attempts.

KD already earned Gold Medals: 2020 Olympic Games, 2016 Olympic Games, 2012 Olympic Games, 2010 FIBA World Championship. (https://www.usab.com/players/kevin-durant)

Oh, I wasn't aware that KD is part of history in the Olympics, it will he his 4th Gold if everything went smooth for the US team. It's really hard to compare though players not just KD in the playoffs as in the Olympics, totally different experience for them.

The women's side as well won in the opener, same margin. So I guess the men's and women's side as the heavy favorites for the Gold.

KD is actually probably lying the most decorated international US basketball player. I think he leads all of US in points in history for the US. His game is perfectly situated for the international game and crosses over well. I think not being double teamed and being able to hag on the outside helps him a lot. Either way gonna be a fun Olympics to watch.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 30, 2024, 12:04:04 AM

I doubt they will be defeated even once in this qualifying event and until the finals. It's just hard to imagine a team defeating them unless they get careless.

With so many all-star players on the roster, it's almost unrealistic that they will suffer even one loss in this tournament. Even assuming KD and LeBron play poorly in a single game, the US team still has other players capable of taking on any opposing team in this tournament.

Yeah right, there are all superstars and they are all capable in carrying the team just got some minutes and rotate the ball then it's going to be tough to any opponents to beat them, though we can't assure or conclude things that might happened but still positive that the dominance will continue, they've got all the position covered and with the skillsets and talents these squad have it's something that will keep them on top.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 30, 2024, 12:04:04 AM

I doubt they will be defeated even once in this qualifying event and until the finals. It's just hard to imagine a team defeating them unless they get careless.

With so many all-star players on the roster, it's almost unrealistic that they will suffer even one loss in this tournament. Even assuming KD and LeBron play poorly in a single game, the US team still has other players capable of taking on any opposing team in this tournament.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 30, 2024, 12:04:04 AM

This is the KD that we had all admired. Just wow, magic hands but this doesn't happen at all times. Congratulations to the team USA.

Tatum seems heated the seat.

The way KD is carrying Team USA is far different from how he played last season with the Phoenix Suns. He's performing better in the Olympics than in the NBA playoffs. I can't imagine KD did that, never missing a shot in the first half. I think he is the first one to achieve that in the Olympics with over 8 attempts.

KD already earned Gold Medals: 2020 Olympic Games, 2016 Olympic Games, 2012 Olympic Games, 2010 FIBA World Championship. (https://www.usab.com/players/kevin-durant)

That's the KD that we adore watching, very efficient. It's still there but I guess the defense in the NBA is simply better than how it is in the Olympics, especially against Serbia which is not known for their defense. KD had a lot of help which is not seen in the Phoenix Suns so I guess we cannot use the comparison. He has Lebron James here who is also efficient, especially in passing the ball. All KD would do is catch and shoot it or post up and use his length to his advantage. Truly, this is one heck of a scary Team USA with so many weapons in their arsenal.
I doubt they will be defeated even once in this qualifying event and until the finals. It's just hard to imagine a team defeating them unless they get careless.

Yes, the defense is very different in the Olympics, although the Serbia games we have seen some good defense put up by the Serbians as they have a couple of steals and probably chance the shot of some USA players, but still the difference is that the USA is so deep with talents.

And with that KD performance, you really have to admired him and Lebron taking over this game. And we still misses Tatum too, but I do see that Kerr will give him time in the floor in the next game. Perhaps I just see some weakness in the inside, and Joel will have to work very hard or even AD and Bam if there will be more taller players that they will face in their next game. Joel has difficulty containing Jokic in this game, in my opinion. So what more if there are a lot of centers from the other team that will rotate.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 29, 2024, 06:57:52 AM

This is the KD that we had all admired. Just wow, magic hands but this doesn't happen at all times. Congratulations to the team USA.

Tatum seems heated the seat.

The way KD is carrying Team USA is far different from how he played last season with the Phoenix Suns. He's performing better in the Olympics than in the NBA playoffs. I can't imagine KD did that, never missing a shot in the first half. I think he is the first one to achieve that in the Olympics with over 8 attempts.

KD already earned Gold Medals: 2020 Olympic Games, 2016 Olympic Games, 2012 Olympic Games, 2010 FIBA World Championship. (https://www.usab.com/players/kevin-durant)

That's the KD that we adore watching, very efficient. It's still there but I guess the defense in the NBA is simply better than how it is in the Olympics, especially against Serbia which is not known for their defense. KD had a lot of help which is not seen in the Phoenix Suns so I guess we cannot use the comparison. He has Lebron James here who is also efficient, especially in passing the ball. All KD would do is catch and shoot it or post up and use his length to his advantage. Truly, this is one heck of a scary Team USA with so many weapons in their arsenal.
I doubt they will be defeated even once in this qualifying event and until the finals. It's just hard to imagine a team defeating them unless they get careless.

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Quote from: stadus on July 28, 2024, 11:42:21 AM

The Nuggets lost their firepower in their second unit last season, which is why they failed in the playoffs. Having Westbrook as part of the second unit would be significant, as his confidence will bring energy to his teammates, potentially improving the non-Jokic minutes for the team. They are likely to make the playoffs, but they need to return to the NBA Finals and win again while their team is still complete and healthy. Hopefully, this postseason, they have filled all the necessary pieces to form a championship team again.

Agree to that, Westbrook coming from the bench and give minutes to allow stars to rest a kind of help that he can really fill in, he's a scorer and hopefully the coaching staff will give him that same treatment even he's going to come in from the second unit, I like to see what he can add with the campaign of the Nuggets bringing that championship caliber and be more competitive chasing another title.

Though it's so much hype as we don't know what he can deliver, just going to wait for him playing with the rest of the Nuggets squad.

Yeah, pretty much that's it, just the hype, just like when he was in the Lakers and then the Clippers, Lol. And basing from that stint of Westbrook, it maybe the same with the Nuggets. I mean they've lost KCP and they think the Westbrook might be a good replacement, but it's totally different as Westbrook for me is no longer in his prime and I'm not seeing him having a impact.

Of course, with his experience and tenacity, there could be games that he will score and then bricks the next game. But let's see what he can bring. Last time for him to become a NBA champion and the Nuggets could be his ticket.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 29, 2024, 05:07:43 PM

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We need to remember, this may not be true for Haliburton, but it's true for Tatum that he played until the last game of the season, so he could be a little tired, and while he is still young, he is not getting any younger, so resting him during the games they know they are winning is important. If you keep him playing at all games then he is going to either get super tired and have a bad start for the season, or he is going to even get injured as well. This is why I suggest that they are doing the right thing with him.

Haliburton was injured for a while too, which means that resting him isn't a bad choice neither, if he is back then he can get some minutes at times, to you know gain some momentum going into the season, but if he doesn't play much that's still fine. Plus this was just one game, we still don't know how it will go, maybe next game they will be the most played players, maybe they are rotating between games, we have no idea what they are planning.

People are making too big a deal over it honestly. The goal is to win games and ultimately gold. If th a t means playing some players over others than so be it. Seeing the game play out I think the right rotation was in. Durant was lights out, lebron was needed for his physicality, guards to spread the floor and defense from jrue. Next game someone else won't get playing time, no big deal. You need to keep a decent sized rotation you can't play everyone minimum playing time.

Well, that's how the media is making money. Making dramas out of small things like Tatum getting benched, and with how the people from social media reacts, I expect some memes coming from them that will be posted online (like a triple-double in claps, high-fives and the number of glasses of Gatorade he drank). Cheesy

Anyway, I don't see this one as a big deal as well. In a roster filled with superstars, there's always a possibility for a player or two to get benched or at least play with limited minutes. In this case, it's Tatum in their first game, but I believe Coach Kerr will let him play in their next game against South Sudan. Speaking of South Sudan, we've seen how they played against the US team, but I don't think that it will happen again this time. As for this drama, let the media cover it. It will stay popular for about 3 days or a week at max then everybody will just forget it completely.

At the end of the day, like @wheelz1200 said, it's all about the Gold Medal and not whether you play many minutes, or not.

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