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Quote from: yazher on October 03, 2021, 09:01:08 PM

This is absolutely hilarious! Cheesy

Dwight is super excited to play again with the Lakers and the result was satisfying for the Nets Grin

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Thankfully it's just a preseason game where you can actually do something like this to adjust in the upcoming season games.

I think Dwight showed exactly what the Lakers were missing last season. I don't think enough people give him credit for his role with the championship team. He makes the Lakers such a better team by giving them a dominant presence down low. AD is more of a finesse player as much as they want him to be dominant. Dwight makes guys regret being near the hoop when he's dunking. Like Shawn Kemp or a lesser Shaq. I think with this squad, if healthy, the finals won't be more than 5 games. AD being healthy is a big question mark though. Luckily with Dwight now, they might not even need him.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 03, 2021, 08:33:32 AM

He can still the playmaker, but not as much as last year, and maybe that is one reason why he also injured himself. And with Westbrook in Lakers now, he might switch to his usual forward position, more options to score but not constraining on his body. I also saw some clips of Rondo honing his skills as a Lakers again. In Clippers he didn't get enough time, but with the Lakers I'm sure he will be another factor to bring another ring for James and Lakers.

Yes, that's true, the time will come for everyone, including LeBron James, but I believe he is suffering less with time compared to other players of his age.

So, I believe the only opportunity for LeBron James to act like a PG, is when Rondo and Wesbrook are extremely bad during the game. If this not happen, I don't see reasons for LJ to play in PG.

Quote from: yazher on October 03, 2021, 09:01:08 PM

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Well, in fact, this was something we would have been waiting for. (minus the difference of almost 30 points lol)

Few allstars played, and those who played, remained on the court for a short time.

I didn't see the game, but I saw the statistics, 41% (Nets) and 31.4% (Lakers) - 3 points shoots.
Blocks 7 (Nets) and 6 (Lakers)... look, not bad for the reservers players who played this way

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 03, 2021, 05:20:30 PM

Having NBA basketball back makes me genuinely happy. Now that I’ve aged to the point where I’ll likely never be able to dunk a basketball again, I have a newfound appreciation for these athletes in the heart of their prime doing what they love. Sure, it’ll still be a while before we see the superstars putting on a show in the heat of competition, but it’s just great to be able to enjoy a sport I love again. Can’t wait to see this matchup again in the Finals when it matters. Any other matchup besides Lakers/Nets would be a disappointment.

Who wouldn't love basketball? Grin

So everyone is really happy to see a NBA game again, unfortunately though, I wasn't able to watch it live, like I was late for about an hour and just see some highlights of the Lakers vs Nets and listen to those NBA analyst.

Just pre-season game though, but when we go to the regular games, that's where the fun starts. Long season, lots of bets to put and make some money (or lost) again.

I think Dwight Howard intentionally did it, but yes, it was really funny.

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This is absolutely hilarious! Cheesy

Dwight is super excited to play again with the Lakers and the result was satisfying for the Nets Grin

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Thankfully it's just a preseason game where you can actually do something like this to adjust in the upcoming season games.

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I am looking forward to Aldridge having that same kind of performance when the season starts.
Damn, Nets is really packed with star players that it even looked good using their second team. The same goes for the Lakers team, THT, Dwight, Rondo, Nunn, wow. It's really a super team.

Quote from: OgNasty on October 03, 2021, 05:20:30 PM

Having NBA basketball back makes me genuinely happy. Now that I’ve aged to the point where I’ll likely never be able to dunk a basketball again, I have a newfound appreciation for these athletes in the heart of their prime doing what they love.

I agree. I appreciate the Nets and the Lakers doing this feat. Placing most known players in teams at different conferences and may have a chance to battle in the Finals. Pre-season start. Nets win.

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Having NBA basketball back makes me genuinely happy. Now that I’ve aged to the point where I’ll likely never be able to dunk a basketball again, I have a newfound appreciation for these athletes in the heart of their prime doing what they love. Sure, it’ll still be a while before we see the superstars putting on a show in the heat of competition, but it’s just great to be able to enjoy a sport I love again. Can’t wait to see this matchup again in the Finals when it matters. Any other matchup besides Lakers/Nets would be a disappointment.

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However, it's weird because Simmons has enough experience playing in the playoffs. He probably was mentally unprepared for the fact that everyone would criticize him after a terrible performance, and it's worth noting that he only aggravated his mental condition during the preseason.

For me, he is still young. There's just so much he needs to learn and that includes professionalism.
From what we are witnessing he forgot the fact that he signed a contract and I think the 76ers management should make a lesson out of him from breaching it so that other players won't do the same in the future. Emotions should be set aside when you are in this position demanding a trade, again it shows bad habits.

That is basically what they are doing right now. Simmons already lost 25% of his salary just not being there so far and for each game he doesn't show up will be another 300k loss as well. I would say that he would not get any money at all this year or maybe a very tiny amount if he ever does.

There are two possibilities if Sixers really do not care about getting something in return; either teams need to offer them a good amount of picks or good players, or they could simply just pay him like few million dollars, 1-2 at most if he ever suits up and just says he is injured, in that case dude would have to lose so much money that Sixers would not be paying him too much to care, hence they could just bench him forever and dude would lose all of his trade value. He still has like 4 year deal or something, which means Sixers are in a position where they can literally make him sit out for 4 years if nobody offers something decent and would not even have to pay him too much.

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Halftime score.

LA Lakers (49) vs Brooklyn Nets (57)

Top scorers.
Nets : Thomas 12 points, Brown 10 points, Millsap 8 points, and Carter 8 points.

LA Lakers : Horton-Tucker 10 points, Monk 10 points, Nunn 9 points

I'm not familiar with some of the names, probably they are rookies who is showing their skills in the preseason.
Will the Lakers be able to come back in the 2nd half and win the game?

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Quote from: yazher on October 03, 2021, 07:25:41 AM

How in the world do they decide such things? they only tell the fans about it just a few days before the game. I think those who are bought tickets just to see him play will be super disappointed with this news. is this their way of taking care of their best players? I think those fans are not satisfied to watch the live game with this kind of strategy by the NBA team nowadays.

Many all-star players don't play during preseason games, and it happens almost every year. However, I agree that it will be unpleasant for fans if such things happen during the regular season. For example, a fan wants to watch his favorite players live and decides to buy a ticket to the game for $500+, but players just sit on the bench by the coach's decision. Undecided

Yeah, and the NBA created a lot of hype, Lakers vs Nets, maybe a preview of finals. Fans of both teams are exciting, buy expensive tickets to see the game live and then be disappointed that the stars are going to sit it out.

So maybe both coaches are going to let their players in the court for at least 10 minutes so that the fans are going to get what they wanted.

I guess they already know that they will not see the full lineup of both teams to play, it's normal in the playoffs that the stars will sit or they will play but with only limited minutes, so they should not expect something special, preseason is just here to tell us that the regular season will start soon.

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Quote from: yazher on October 03, 2021, 07:25:41 AM

How in the world do they decide such things? they only tell the fans about it just a few days before the game. I think those who are bought tickets just to see him play will be super disappointed with this news. is this their way of taking care of their best players? I think those fans are not satisfied to watch the live game with this kind of strategy by the NBA team nowadays.

Many all-star players don't play during preseason games, and it happens almost every year. However, I agree that it will be unpleasant for fans if such things happen during the regular season. For example, a fan wants to watch his favorite players live and decides to buy a ticket to the game for $500+, but players just sit on the bench by the coach's decision. Undecided

Yeah, and the NBA created a lot of hype, Lakers vs Nets, maybe a preview of finals. Fans of both teams are exciting, buy expensive tickets to see the game live and then be disappointed that the stars are going to sit it out.

So maybe both coaches are going to let their players in the court for at least 10 minutes so that the fans are going to get what they wanted.

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Quote from: stadus on October 03, 2021, 04:55:19 AM

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If he goes to the Spurs, I think coach Pop would help him improve his talent, he is a good coach and a mentor as well, but the question is, who would the Spurs trade in exchange for Ben Simmons?
Probably the 76ers will demand multiple players in exchange for Simmons since the highest salary of the Spurs roster now earns only $15,178,571.
https://www.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs

They surely will. They perspective with Ben Simmons is their main star and not Embiid. They built the team for him and surrounded him with shooters.
76ers management even kicked Jimmy Butler out for Al Horford because he is taking the position of Ben.
I don't think the Spurs have enough in their roster to satisfy the 76ers for a pleasing trade. Best options are Derrick White and Dejounte Murray.
But I doubt they will let them go after all, they are the rising stars of the league.

That's why it's unlikely for Simmons to be traded with the Spurs since the two players you've mentioned is a distributor on the offensive side, and Simmons is known for his defense, so where would the Spurs take their offense if that will happen?

In addition to that, both of them are young and good players for them. So they would not want to trade them for Simmons, because if that happens, they will lose a lot of the attacking power in the squad. From what the situation looks like, I don't think that trade is going to go off as the Sixers won't benefit much from the trade-off.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 03, 2021, 04:48:38 AM

Quote from: stadus on October 03, 2021, 04:24:25 AM

If he goes to the Spurs, I think coach Pop would help him improve his talent, he is a good coach and a mentor as well, but the question is, who would the Spurs trade in exchange for Ben Simmons?
Probably the 76ers will demand multiple players in exchange for Simmons since the highest salary of the Spurs roster now earns only $15,178,571.
https://www.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs

They surely will. They perspective with Ben Simmons is their main star and not Embiid. They built the team for him and surrounded him with shooters.
76ers management even kicked Jimmy Butler out for Al Horford because he is taking the position of Ben.
I don't think the Spurs have enough in their roster to satisfy the 76ers for a pleasing trade. Best options are Derrick White and Dejounte Murray.
But I doubt they will let them go after all, they are the rising stars of the league.

Yes, teams hardly want to let go of the younger blood in the team. Can the Spurs afford Ben if they don't have good enough players to trade in for? I'm not sure about that. But it is true that they don't have enough quality players to trade in for Simmons. Also, I don't think that the Sixers will agree to trade Ben for 2 or 3 players, rather they'd do that for a better player in his position. Let's see how the trade off goes for both teams.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on October 03, 2021, 09:41:17 AM

Quote from: yazher on October 03, 2021, 07:25:41 AM

How in the world do they decide such things? they only tell the fans about it just a few days before the game. I think those who are bought tickets just to see him play will be super disappointed with this news. is this their way of taking care of their best players? I think those fans are not satisfied to watch the live game with this kind of strategy by the NBA team nowadays.

Many all-star players don't play during preseason games, and it happens almost every year. However, I agree that it will be unpleasant for fans if such things happen during the regular season. For example, a fan wants to watch his favorite players live and decides to buy a ticket to the game for $500+, but players just sit on the bench by the coach's decision. Undecided

Very disappointing and the next thing in mind from that fan is not to buy tickets again,

It will keep linger inside their mind that they've wasted money. They are there to watch their idol/favorite star playing.
but the sad thing is when coach / management decide not to allow stars during preseason.

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Quote from: stadus on October 03, 2021, 04:55:19 AM

That's why it's unlikely for Simmons to be traded with the Spurs since the two players you've mentioned is a distributor on the offensive side, and Simmons is known for his defense, so where would the Spurs take their offense if that will happen?

If Spurs badly want Ben Simmons they should look for a 3 or 4-team deal just like how Houston Rockets did with James Harden.
Sacrifice some of their draft picks and look for a team that would best fit whatever the 76ers need to let go of Simmons. That's the only way because I don't see anything good for them to offer.
They key is to look for a team that is rebuilding and would agree with future draft picks or a part of their young roster excluding their future stars.
It will be a deep digging before they can make it happen.

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Quote from: yazher on October 03, 2021, 07:25:41 AM

How in the world do they decide such things? they only tell the fans about it just a few days before the game. I think those who are bought tickets just to see him play will be super disappointed with this news. is this their way of taking care of their best players? I think those fans are not satisfied to watch the live game with this kind of strategy by the NBA team nowadays.

Many all-star players don't play during preseason games, and it happens almost every year. However, I agree that it will be unpleasant for fans if such things happen during the regular season. For example, a fan wants to watch his favorite players live and decides to buy a ticket to the game for $500+, but players just sit on the bench by the coach's decision. Undecided

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 03, 2021, 02:47:55 AM

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Embiid already talked about it.

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"The situation is disappointing, borderline kind of disrespectful to all the guys that are out here fighting for their lives," Embiid told reporters at training camp in Camden, New Jersey.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32314598/philadelphia-76ers-star-joel-embiid-calls-ben-simmons-situation-borderline-disrespectful-team
About the shooting problem. He's still young, it can be improved. I won't worry about that so much because he has a lot of skills to contribute.

Embiid should be vocal about it because he is the main man of the team, anything he said might affect the team and Simmons, so hopefully, there will be an agreement and both parties have to stay professional. Simmons has to be respectful and the 76ers management has to respect what Simmons wants.

But Simmons felt disrespectful as well that's why he demanded a trade already, and if no trade happens, he is willing to sit up the rest of the season. I think we have seen and heard enough about the Simmons saga, might be better to really wait for the final outcome. Simmons and 76ers relationships have been damage beyond repair.

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Russell Westbrook is averaging 11.7 assists per game for 65 games last season. Another one, he is also averaging 22.2 points per game and take note, as a backup and not the main scorer. It's impressive that he is producing that kind of stats with Beal as the ball handler most of the time.

With that stats, LeBron doesn't need to perform most of the PG position and just allows Westbrook to do plays. Fewer loads mean a more comfortable LeBron James which is better as he's not in his prime already. Westbrook will surely follow with the Lakers system just like he did on his previous team.

I don't see any reason for LeBron to still play in PG.
With this team, Russell Westbrook (or even Rondo) can be PG, therefore LeBron will be with less responsibility in the team and will be able to play better, making great assists to his teammates or passing the ball quickly to Wesbrook to make a counterattack, because he is the ideal player to make these types of plays, Russ is explosive and fast, perfect combination!

He can still the playmaker, but not as much as last year, and maybe that is one reason why he also injured himself. And with Westbrook in Lakers now, he might switch to his usual forward position, more options to score but not constraining on his body. I also saw some clips of Rondo honing his skills as a Lakers again. In Clippers he didn't get enough time, but with the Lakers I'm sure he will be another factor to bring another ring for James and Lakers.

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Quote from: harizen on October 02, 2021, 05:40:49 AM

Russell Westbrook is averaging 11.7 assists per game for 65 games last season. Another one, he is also averaging 22.2 points per game and take note, as a backup and not the main scorer. It's impressive that he is producing that kind of stats with Beal as the ball handler most of the time.

With that stats, LeBron doesn't need to perform most of the PG position and just allows Westbrook to do plays. Fewer loads mean a more comfortable LeBron James which is better as he's not in his prime already. Westbrook will surely follow with the Lakers system just like he did on his previous team.

I don't see any reason for LeBron to still play in PG.
With this team, Russell Westbrook (or even Rondo) can be PG, therefore LeBron will be with less responsibility in the team and will be able to play better, making great assists to his teammates or passing the ball quickly to Wesbrook to make a counterattack, because he is the ideal player to make these types of plays, Russ is explosive and fast, perfect combination!

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Quote from: Oasisman on October 02, 2021, 05:23:23 AM

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It looks like "old" players need more time to rest because there are rumors that James, Westbrook, Melo, and Ariza will miss the first preseason match. So the Lakers vs. Nets game will not be interesting, and I expect it should be an easy win for the Nets if KD, Harden, and Irving play.

Pre-season isn't an interesting game in the first place. When you bet on a pre-season that's like literally rolling a dice.
But that doesn't mean age is affecting this veteran players. The rest is necessary after a long workout to make their chemistry work as they have a completely new set of players.

In addition, Coach Vogel said AD will only play in the first quarter. On the other hand, it's not certain as well whether the Nets big 3 will play more minutes in the pre season.

How in the world do they decide such things? they only tell the fans about it just a few days before the game. I think those who are bought tickets just to see him play will be super disappointed with this news. is this their way of taking care of their best players? I think those fans are not satisfied to watch the live game with this kind of strategy by the NBA team nowadays.

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10013823-ben-simmons-trade-rumors-t-wolves-pacers-cavs-pistons-raptors-spurs-interested

It is said that there are multiple teams in line to sign a contract with Philadelphia 76ers player Ben Simmons. There are teams like Timberwolves, Pacers, Cavaliers, Pistons, Raptors and Spurs which are interested in him seriously.

His stats in the last season are like this:

I wonder which team will be able to trade him. Ben Simmons is still 25 years old and a talented player too. He can contribute really well to the team he goes.

If he goes to the Spurs, I think coach Pop would help him improve his talent, he is a good coach and a mentor as well, but the question is, who would the Spurs trade in exchange for Ben Simmons?

Probably the 76ers will demand multiple players in exchange for Simmons since the highest salary of the Spurs roster now earns only $15,178,571.

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs

Actually the biggest earner seems like Dejounte Murray with $15,428,880. But not much things change in this case too. Cheesy

Ben Simmons' current salary at 76ers is now $33m. Spurs would need to give up on their best players to be able to trade Ben Simmons. But I don't think that it would be a wise choice for them. They will need to offer many players to be able to get him.

Spurs don't need to trade their players, they have to observe what the newly acquired players could do, remember they just traded De Rozan and now they will trade other players again? I think that's not a wise decision, so I don't expect this scenario would happen.

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