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October 01, 2021, 09:14:29 PM
It looks like "old" players need more time to rest because there are rumors that James, Westbrook, Melo, and Ariza will miss the first preseason match. So the Lakers vs. Nets game will not be interesting, and I expect it should be an easy win for the Nets if KD, Harden, and Irving play.

Damn, we want to see Russ in Lakers uniform in his first game against the Nets? Not good for the fans and for the NBA general. For sure this is one of the anticipated opening match in NBA history and Lakers are killing the excitement?

So not sure about the Nets side, maybe we can see some of their superstars sitting as well.

@harizen - thanks for sharing, yeah, strange that KP and Luka are not in the same pic? It's this a sign that KP and Luka relationship are not going well? lol.

Not good since fans are expecting to see Russ playing against his former teammates.

If this rumors gather more fans attention the opening might not be good in terms of viewers, we all know that this upcoming season opener
was highly anticipated preview of a possible NBA finals.

Placing LeBron, Russ and Melo in your bench is not a good idea considering those fans who will bought the ticket for the game opener
they will surely call for this stars to play..
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October 01, 2021, 08:43:32 PM
It looks like "old" players need more time to rest because there are rumors that James, Westbrook, Melo, and Ariza will miss the first preseason match. So the Lakers vs. Nets game will not be interesting, and I expect it should be an easy win for the Nets if KD, Harden, and Irving play.

Damn, we want to see Russ in Lakers uniform in his first game against the Nets? Not good for the fans and for the NBA general. For sure this is one of the anticipated opening match in NBA history and Lakers are killing the excitement?

So not sure about the Nets side, maybe we can see some of their superstars sitting as well.

@harizen - thanks for sharing, yeah, strange that KP and Luka are not in the same pic? It's this a sign that KP and Luka relationship are not going well? lol.
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October 01, 2021, 07:56:57 PM
It looks like "old" players need more time to rest because there are rumors that James, Westbrook, Melo, and Ariza will miss the first preseason match. So the Lakers vs. Nets game will not be interesting, and I expect it should be an easy win for the Nets if KD, Harden, and Irving play.
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October 01, 2021, 05:58:18 PM

Dallas Mavericks fan out there like me, did you see the recent pictorial of the team?

https://www.facebook.com/dallasmavs/posts/10165630284985461

Just a normal pictorial to some but what's lacking? A pic of Luka and Porzingis together. It should be no secret to others why it turned out like that. Anyhow, at least they were able to get together these 2 in a pictorial, and no need for a separate or edited one. Smiley Looking forward to that egos will be set aside for the team's success rally this upcoming season.
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October 01, 2021, 05:12:41 PM
Kevin Durant got back-to-back championships when he was playing at Golden State Warriors a few years ago. And now, I think that he is at the best team in NBA. Brooklyn Nets are maybe the most powerful team in terms of starting five quality. We see Durant - Irving - Harden trio there and they are very capable of beating every opponent they have. I think that Durant has another big opportunity to win at least one title here. And I hope that he can make it in this season.
I have no doubt that they will win a championship, they have the best chance to win as long as no one in the big 3 will be injured. Last season wasn't good for them, they have a good run in the regular season but when Harden and Irving got injured, things weren't so good for them, but still they reach the ECF which is a big thing considering some players are not healthy.
The same thought was there with this team last season and the ending was not impressive.

We're hyped at the beginning of the season but we all tend to be wrong with such predictions. I'll just wait until they make it to the finals and will cheer them once they're there.

Well, the Lakers and the Nets are quite different, the Nets have proven that the big 3 would work last season, if not because of the injury, they could have won the NBA Finals as even without Harden early in the ECF, Irving and Durant were able to dominate the Bucks in an impressive 2-0 win at home, it's just unfortunate that Irving got injured and Harden come back playing not 100% yet.

On the other hand, the Lakers could have also made it to the Finals, if Davis was not injured.
That's part of the game.

Injuries and some unexpected events to a certain team happens and it's really part of the journey of every team.

I'm not trying to be negative but I don't want to assume that much for this season. I recognize them really as one of the best.
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October 01, 2021, 04:54:23 PM
Kevin Durant got back-to-back championships when he was playing at Golden State Warriors a few years ago. And now, I think that he is at the best team in NBA. Brooklyn Nets are maybe the most powerful team in terms of starting five quality. We see Durant - Irving - Harden trio there and they are very capable of beating every opponent they have. I think that Durant has another big opportunity to win at least one title here. And I hope that he can make it in this season.
I have no doubt that they will win a championship, they have the best chance to win as long as no one in the big 3 will be injured. Last season wasn't good for them, they have a good run in the regular season but when Harden and Irving got injured, things weren't so good for them, but still they reach the ECF which is a big thing considering some players are not healthy.
The same thought was there with this team last season and the ending was not impressive.

We're hyped at the beginning of the season but we all tend to be wrong with such predictions. I'll just wait until they make it to the finals and will cheer them once they're there.

Well, the Lakers and the Nets are quite different, the Nets have proven that the big 3 would work last season, if not because of the injury, they could have won the NBA Finals as even without Harden early in the ECF, Irving and Durant were able to dominate the Bucks in an impressive 2-0 win at home, it's just unfortunate that Irving got injured and Harden come back playing not 100% yet.

On the other hand, the Lakers could have also made it to the Finals, if Davis was not injured.
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October 01, 2021, 04:43:35 PM
Kevin Durant got back-to-back championships when he was playing at Golden State Warriors a few years ago. And now, I think that he is at the best team in NBA. Brooklyn Nets are maybe the most powerful team in terms of starting five quality. We see Durant - Irving - Harden trio there and they are very capable of beating every opponent they have. I think that Durant has another big opportunity to win at least one title here. And I hope that he can make it in this season.
I have no doubt that they will win a championship, they have the best chance to win as long as no one in the big 3 will be injured. Last season wasn't good for them, they have a good run in the regular season but when Harden and Irving got injured, things weren't so good for them, but still they reach the ECF which is a big thing considering some players are not healthy.
The same thought was there with this team last season and the ending was not impressive.

We're hyped at the beginning of the season but we all tend to be wrong with such predictions. I'll just wait until they make it to the finals and will cheer them once they're there.
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October 01, 2021, 03:08:41 PM
Kevin Durant got back-to-back championships when he was playing at Golden State Warriors a few years ago. And now, I think that he is at the best team in NBA. Brooklyn Nets are maybe the most powerful team in terms of starting five quality. We see Durant - Irving - Harden trio there and they are very capable of beating every opponent they have. I think that Durant has another big opportunity to win at least one title here. And I hope that he can make it in this season.
I have no doubt that they will win a championship, they have the best chance to win as long as no one in the big 3 will be injured. Last season wasn't good for them, they have a good run in the regular season but when Harden and Irving got injured, things weren't so good for them, but still they reach the ECF which is a big thing considering some players are not healthy.
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October 01, 2021, 02:14:18 PM
People are forgetting that Lebron has been an iron man for so long, yes he had some injuries but at the end of the day he is Lebron and he takes care of his body like a temple. I believe that injury concerns should be aimed at AD because dude has been injury prone ever since he came into the league and he has that potential again. I know the team is old and all but they are still a very talented bunch of players and they would keep on being like that.

Westbrook added to the already great team made this team insane, they had one more superstar contract left in their team just so they could get Kawhi a few years ago, but they now know that they can't get him so they just got Westbrook instead. This is just a super team if I have ever seen one, I do not remember many teams that had overall better talent when you look at the roster, unless something unexpected happens I could see even 16-0 playoff run from them.
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October 01, 2021, 01:33:36 PM
Carmelo is already 37 years old. I doubt he has only 2 or 3 seasons at most left in his career if he still performs well enough.
First, forget about the age as even Lebron James who is already 36 years old or 1 year younger than Melo, is still expected to play more season as he showed that he did not slow down, he is still dominant and getting smarter.
Yes it's not about the age anymore when they have all these nutritionist and modern training. The thing with Melo is he didn't evolve as fast as Lebron and maybe he doesn't have the same work ethic as LBJ when he was younger and dominant. That time when no team would want to sign him probably slapped him hard so he worked harder on improving his overall game.


After that event in his life, he changes a lot. We see him adjusting with the Blazers he support and accepts the fact that he is no longer the main man. He's okay with limited minutes and coming out the bench.

The same way you have seen him, he adjusts and develops his skills, not just for scoring machine but the way he defends. He moves more now, unlike when he played way back with Houston.

Moving forward to Lakers, we might see more from him. If Coach Vogel, gives him enough minutes to contribute, he might bring something
The Lakers need to win another title, who knows?  Tongue
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October 01, 2021, 01:13:32 PM
Kevin Durant got back-to-back championships when he was playing at Golden State Warriors a few years ago. And now, I think that he is at the best team in NBA. Brooklyn Nets are maybe the most powerful team in terms of starting five quality. We see Durant - Irving - Harden trio there and they are very capable of beating every opponent they have. I think that Durant has another big opportunity to win at least one title here. And I hope that he can make it in this season.
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October 01, 2021, 12:14:59 PM
Carmelo is already 37 years old. I doubt he has only 2 or 3 seasons at most left in his career if he still performs well enough.
First, forget about the age as even Lebron James who is already 36 years old or 1 year younger than Melo, is still expected to play more season as he showed that he did not slow down, he is still dominant and getting smarter.
Yes it's not about the age anymore when they have all these nutritionist and modern training. The thing with Melo is he didn't evolve as fast as Lebron and maybe he doesn't have the same work ethic as LBJ when he was younger and dominant. That time when no team would want to sign him probably slapped him hard so he worked harder on improving his overall game.
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October 01, 2021, 11:23:34 AM
Carmelo is already 37 years old. I doubt he has only 2 or 3 seasons at most left in his career if he still performs well enough. But it will be hard for him to get the minutes with the likes of really good players in the squad. Lakers already have Lebron and Anthony Davis in PF position, so Melo won't be getting the minutes as he used to get in the p[ast. But whenever he gets those minutes, he will convert them into scores and assists.
Second stringers usually play 20-25 minutes and it's not that bad. The Lakers need him as they lack shooters so he better make the most out of it.
There's also a chance this could be his last year if they will ever get a championship. All that's left will be CP3 in their circle of friends who will also push this season to grab the ring. The only good part is CP3 has a humongous long contract which means he can still try next year while Melo only signed 1 year for $2.5M.
https://www.nba.com/news/report-nba-reaches-95-vaccination-rate-among-players
Report: NBA reaches 95% vaccination rate among players
It's going smooth despite the noise made by several players especially Kyrie Irving. It's a good sign.

Yes, Melo will get his minutes because this Lakers team is an injury prone one. So the coach has to rotate the squads otherwise players like Davis might get injured often than not. And Melo has the experience needed and should be having a good season because, in my opinion, this Lakers side is one of the strongest, if not the most stronger team ever. They even have a very good squad depth. So they can easily give a run for the title.
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October 01, 2021, 07:33:40 AM
Carmelo is already 37 years old. I doubt he has only 2 or 3 seasons at most left in his career if he still performs well enough.
First, forget about the age as even Lebron James who is already 36 years old or 1 year younger than Melo, is still expected to play more season as he showed that he did not slow down, he is still dominant and getting smarter.

But it will be hard for him to get the minutes with the likes of really good players in the squad. Lakers already have Lebron and Anthony Davis in PF position, so Melo won't be getting the minutes as he used to get in the p[ast. But whenever he gets those minutes, he will convert them into scores and assists.
Melo will earn his minutes, if he plays good basketball, for sure he will earn more minutes than he played with his old team, I believe that there's a big reason why the Lakers sign him off, aside from being a friend of Bron.
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October 01, 2021, 06:57:38 AM
Carmelo is already 37 years old. I doubt he has only 2 or 3 seasons at most left in his career if he still performs well enough. But it will be hard for him to get the minutes with the likes of really good players in the squad. Lakers already have Lebron and Anthony Davis in PF position, so Melo won't be getting the minutes as he used to get in the p[ast. But whenever he gets those minutes, he will convert them into scores and assists.
Second stringers usually play 20-25 minutes and it's not that bad. The Lakers need him as they lack shooters so he better make the most out of it.
There's also a chance this could be his last year if they will ever get a championship. All that's left will be CP3 in their circle of friends who will also push this season to grab the ring. The only good part is CP3 has a humongous long contract which means he can still try next year while Melo only signed 1 year for $2.5M.
Probably CP3 and his team will have a lot of challenges in this season, the teams are back healthy and teams like the Lakers and Nets had improve their lineup. honestly, I don't see them winning a championship with the same lineup, so I expect that CP3 will be traded after this season.

https://www.nba.com/news/report-nba-reaches-95-vaccination-rate-among-players
Report: NBA reaches 95% vaccination rate among players
It's going smooth despite the noise made by several players especially Kyrie Irving. It's a good sign.

Good sign and that's also a sign that most of the NBA players believe that the vaccine has no negative effect on our body.
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October 01, 2021, 06:03:46 AM
Carmelo is already 37 years old. I doubt he has only 2 or 3 seasons at most left in his career if he still performs well enough. But it will be hard for him to get the minutes with the likes of really good players in the squad. Lakers already have Lebron and Anthony Davis in PF position, so Melo won't be getting the minutes as he used to get in the p[ast. But whenever he gets those minutes, he will convert them into scores and assists.
Second stringers usually play 20-25 minutes and it's not that bad. The Lakers need him as they lack shooters so he better make the most out of it.
There's also a chance this could be his last year if they will ever get a championship. All that's left will be CP3 in their circle of friends who will also push this season to grab the ring. The only good part is CP3 has a humongous long contract which means he can still try next year while Melo only signed 1 year for $2.5M.

https://www.nba.com/news/report-nba-reaches-95-vaccination-rate-among-players
Report: NBA reaches 95% vaccination rate among players
It's going smooth despite the noise made by several players especially Kyrie Irving. It's a good sign.
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October 01, 2021, 05:52:56 AM
That's the thing, he is not as consistent as he was before, we can understand because he is not the star player now like he used to be when he was still playing with the New York Knicks. Time changes, but at least Melo was given a chance to get signed, first with Blazers and now with the Lakers. Who knows, if he wins a championship here he will decide to retire, at least he was a champion when he retired.
If he can be productive within his minutes which I doubt at this stage since I'm thinking he'd be getting fewer minutes this time compared to what he has at Portland. He's got 10+ points/min in the recent stats he got but seems it's declining, in regards to retirement I think it's a best thing if he gets a ring first but looks like age hits him already and it's just a matter of time before he announced it.
10+ points/min will already be huge for him and for the Lakers. He needs to be consistent though. And if he turns out to be cold, then he will simply be replace. I think he knows his place with the Lakers. He will be there to score and contribute in his way and hopefully the Lakers can win another ring with their current lineup with tons of veterans and experience players including Carmelo himself.

Carmelo is already 37 years old. I doubt he has only 2 or 3 seasons at most left in his career if he still performs well enough. But it will be hard for him to get the minutes with the likes of really good players in the squad. Lakers already have Lebron and Anthony Davis in PF position, so Melo won't be getting the minutes as he used to get in the p[ast. But whenever he gets those minutes, he will convert them into scores and assists.
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October 01, 2021, 05:47:48 AM
That's the reality with the Lakers now, if Lebron makes a bad play, the Lakers will suffer. Many times I saw in their game that when Lebron is holding the ball for the last shot, mostly it will fail because it's either he will shoot with a low percentage or will just pass the ball when he is pressured, but the original play is him taking the last shot. I hope this would change as Westbrook is already with the team.

LeBron holding the ball for the last shot most likely to fail? But the statistics says differently. LeBron was ranked at the top 10 most clutch player in the NBA. If he passes on the dying seconds of the game that doesn't mean it's not part of the play. Yes, he was the priority most of the time, but with the swarming defense LeBron wouldn't force a low percentage shot, thus he passes to the most open man outside.
Remember how perfect the play was in the 2020 finals against Miami when LeBron passes the ball to Danny Green?

I don't know why some people were mad when LeBron doesn't want to force a low percentage shot.
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October 01, 2021, 05:17:46 AM
It's simple, if Carmelo misses a few bad shots, then automatically, he needs to be replaced by someone. Just a couple of minutes to relax again in the bench.

It's not simple. What if while Carmelo is missing shots, but he is contributing well to other aspects of the game like assist, rebounds, and backcourt plays, is he still be subject to a quick substitution? The rotation is based on originally provided minutes. Even the player is performing well, there are really times that a coach will still choose to bench those guys especially if not part of the solid starting lineup. Lots of bench players that doing good but still ended up mostly on the bench warming the sits.

Vogel needs to space his other players as well, even other coaches might bench someone if he is missing shots specially a player of Carmelo's caliber (no longer in his prime). There are times in Portland last year that he was bench because he is shooting awfully. What more in the Lakers line up wherein there is a lot that can replace him like THT, Malik Monk or Nunn, more younger, more legs and could contribute even more in both are (defense and offense). That's why I said Vogel will not make things complicate that will cause him problems later if he keep Anthony on the court with a bad shooting percentage.
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October 01, 2021, 05:07:35 AM
Carmelo can be a plug and play type of guy. He will get you buckets, guaranteed, but he'll probably be replaced if he's cold.
That's the thing, he is not as consistent as he was before, we can understand because he is not the star player now like he used to be when he was still playing with the New York Knicks. Time changes, but at least Melo was given a chance to get signed, first with Blazers and now with the Lakers. Who knows, if he wins a championship here he will decide to retire, at least he was a champion when he retired.
If he can be productive within his minutes which I doubt at this stage since I'm thinking he'd be getting fewer minutes this time compared to what he has at Portland. He's got 10+ points/min in the recent stats he got but seems it's declining, in regards to retirement I think it's a best thing if he gets a ring first but looks like age hits him already and it's just a matter of time before he announced it.

10+ points/min will already be huge for him and for the Lakers. He needs to be consistent though. And if he turns out to be cold, then he will simply be replace. I think he knows his place with the Lakers. He will be there to score and contribute in his way and hopefully the Lakers can win another ring with their current lineup with tons of veterans and experience players including Carmelo himself.
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