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September 29, 2021, 01:05:17 PM
Does the Los Angeles Lakers this year have really a chance to dominate the league with this team? there's no doubt that they are one of the strong teams in the NBA this year but if they don't maintain a healthy body throughout the season then they might end up like how they were last season even though they have players like Westbrook in their roosters right now because the other team has some strong roosters too.

Ohh, that's a classic one but I think at the East I'm still rooting it will be the defending champs Bucks or the good looking roster of Miami Heat. As far as I'm concern on the side of the West I'm still with Suns or the Clippers having Bledsoe back was definitely a good option they've got. Regarding healthy for the future games no one can predict the outcome on that, but I think Lakers is too fine for this.

The only thing that could set back the Lakers would be the player's health and injuries. So as they have a pretty good squad depth, the manager can easily rotate the squad by giving everyone the minutes and also playing the crucial players rotatively. They have an insane amount of attacking power with Lebron, Westbrook, Anthony Davis, and Carmelo Anthony. Lebron is an overall well rounded player and he can do everything with Davis is very injury prone so he has to be very careful with his plays.
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September 29, 2021, 10:43:17 AM
But the worst that I read is that Orlando Magic's Jonathan Isaac that he is immune already since he has contracted the virus before.
What? I've seen some cases that even if they got contracted by the virus before they still got affected again by it, might be the virus getting more variants. I wonder what refuses them to get vaccinated, it just doesn't make some sense if others tend to cooperate. Well, if they won't then they won't play, it's that simple rule to follow.
Yeah, the virus could infect you again. I've seen it in my neighborhood and I was shocked. Once, I also thought that if you got hit by the virus, your body will create immunities against it, but it's not true. It's like cold, it will go back if you are infected by another who has it.

About the vaccination, I hope it's that simple. They are using different reasons about it, religion and others about the deaths of those who are vaccinated and some like Kyrie who thinks microchips are inserted in it. Who knows?  Grin I just hope they have their papers ready to prove it.
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September 29, 2021, 10:29:02 AM
But the worst that I read is that Orlando Magic's Jonathan Isaac that he is immune already since he has contracted the virus before.
What? I've seen some cases that even if they got contracted by the virus before they still got affected again by it, might be the virus getting more variants. I wonder what refuses them to get vaccinated, it just doesn't make some sense if others tend to cooperate. Well, if they won't then they won't play, it's that simple rule to follow.
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September 29, 2021, 09:37:46 AM
Well, I don't know... would it be advantageous to change Ariza? (is he playing well?)
In my opinion, I believe they could change Ariza, put Melo (SF) maybe.
Or, LeBron (SF), AD (PF) and DeAndre Jordan or Dwight Howard (C), well I don't know if everyone is 100% healthy.
Nah, Carmelo isn't a good starter for this Laker first five. I'd rather like to see Dwight starting at the Center than Davis. I mean Davis is injury prone and he'll beat himself battling under the basket with the rebounds against the opponent's backboard. The Lakers should take good care of AD maybe put him at the PF position.
Another, notable line up for the Lakers is the 2nd unit. They have a very good depth If everyone is healthy.
Nunn, Melo, DeAndre, Rondo, THT, and Ellington.
This will be a challenge for Frank Vogel on how he's going to handle with a team of superstars.

^ I personally feel that Davis is a better PF than he is a Center.  Both he and Dwight have the same height which is 2.08meter, but I think he excels at the PF position than the Center and maybe Dwight takes rebounds better than Davis. So if Davis is played as the PF, maybe Lebron can be played as the SG? Or as Davis is injury prone, he can share his minutes with Carmelo Anthony which could also be a good idea. So WB in PG, Lebron in SG, Davis as PF, and Dwight as the Center, and the other position could also be rotated.
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September 29, 2021, 09:29:34 AM
Does the Los Angeles Lakers this year have really a chance to dominate the league with this team? there's no doubt that they are one of the strong teams in the NBA this year but if they don't maintain a healthy body throughout the season then they might end up like how they were last season even though they have players like Westbrook in their roosters right now because the other team has some strong roosters too.


Ohh, that's a classic one but I think at the East I'm still rooting it will be the defending champs Bucks or the good looking roster of Miami Heat. As far as I'm concern on the side of the West I'm still with Suns or the Clippers having Bledsoe back was definitely a good option they've got. Regarding healthy for the future games no one can predict the outcome on that, but I think Lakers is too fine for this.

The team this season is definitely a big improvement last year and I would say it's better when they won the championship two years ago. Now they have a lot of guys that can score and play D. And if by chances Lebron gets hurt or injured, someone can still take over.

Regarding the vaccines, and speaking of Lebron, he already confirmed that he is fully vaccinated. But there's another superstar, Bradley Beal who refuses to get one.

But the worst that I read is that Orlando Magic's Jonathan Isaac that he is immune already since he has contracted the virus before.
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September 29, 2021, 09:29:28 AM
We've already written off the Spurs but it seems coach Popovich is more excited than ever with his superstar-less squad this coming season
https://www.nba.com/news/popovich-star-less-spurs-excited-for-future-new-challenge

He'll surely make a lot of experiments during the regular season and hope it will carry them to the playoffs. One thing I am looking forward is how fast they will run the court and his "signature" not so flashy plays.
Of course, Pop can do any experiments because the upcoming season may be the last in his career. However, I doubt that the Spurs will be able to reach the playoffs because there is a lot of strong competition in the Western Conference. It will be enough if the Spurs just win at least 26 games during the regular season, then Popovich will become the best coach with the most wins in NBA history.
Don't get me wrong. I don't have the high expectation of Spurs but I still want to see what his vast experience can do to this team. Competition will always be tough for sure so we'll just have to wait and see if he can make a memorable run right before he retires.
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September 29, 2021, 08:54:49 AM
He has a KD like structure, very long and tall and he can really used it to his advantage. I agree that when Murray got injured, he was given that time to shine and so he did. So he might have gain a lot of confidence in the playoffs and hopefully it will carry on next season or even if Jamal is back on the Denver line up. They are going to be very dangerous, we all know how good Jokic's passing ability is, and Murray and Porter Jr can benefit and hit outside J and an assists coming from the MVP.

Yes, he can his height to his advantage to score from good positions and also take those rebounds. He also has a very good 3 point-scoring ability. Overall he is a very well-rounded player. If he is given the minutes, which will obviously be given to him, he will play a vital role in the team's success. He has already proven himself what he can be capable of, maybe much more interesting MPJ matches coming up ahead. Hope he has a very good season.
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September 29, 2021, 08:35:39 AM
Nah, Carmelo isn't a good starter for this Laker first five. I'd rather like to see Dwight starting at the Center than Davis. I mean Davis is injury prone and he'll beat himself battling under the basket with the rebounds against the opponent's backboard. The Lakers should take good care of AD maybe put him at the PF position.
Another, notable line up for the Lakers is the 2nd unit. They have a very good depth If everyone is healthy.
Nunn, Melo, DeAndre, Rondo, THT, and Ellington.
This will be a challenge for Frank Vogel on how he's going to handle with a team of superstars.
Rotations. It is the most challenging part when you are a coach. You have to deal with chemistry or how good a player whenever another player is playing with him. Pairs. I'd switch them in pairs, like when Rondo comes in, Dwight could be there for the alley-oop attacks which he specialized at.
It creates space for outside shooters when they also worry about the inside man like Dwight who could just jump so high even if a pass is not that perfect.
Frank Vogel maybe a specialist when it comes to defense but with his list of players he won't need to worry about D but should just focus on offense.
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September 29, 2021, 05:47:12 AM
Does the Los Angeles Lakers this year have really a chance to dominate the league with this team? there's no doubt that they are one of the strong teams in the NBA this year but if they don't maintain a healthy body throughout the season then they might end up like how they were last season even though they have players like Westbrook in their roosters right now because the other team has some strong roosters too.


Ohh, that's a classic one but I think at the East I'm still rooting it will be the defending champs Bucks or the good looking roster of Miami Heat. As far as I'm concern on the side of the West I'm still with Suns or the Clippers having Bledsoe back was definitely a good option they've got. Regarding healthy for the future games no one can predict the outcome on that, but I think Lakers is too fine for this.
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September 29, 2021, 05:39:46 AM
Well, I don't know... would it be advantageous to change Ariza? (is he playing well?)
In my opinion, I believe they could change Ariza, put Melo (SF) maybe.
Or, LeBron (SF), AD (PF) and DeAndre Jordan or Dwight Howard (C), well I don't know if everyone is 100% healthy.

Nah, Carmelo isn't a good starter for this Laker first five. I'd rather like to see Dwight starting at the Center than Davis. I mean Davis is injury prone and he'll beat himself battling under the basket with the rebounds against the opponent's backboard. The Lakers should take good care of AD maybe put him at the PF position.
Another, notable line up for the Lakers is the 2nd unit. They have a very good depth If everyone is healthy.
Nunn, Melo, DeAndre, Rondo, THT, and Ellington.
This will be a challenge for Frank Vogel on how he's going to handle with a team of superstars.

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September 29, 2021, 05:20:57 AM

Nah, they have been team mates for many years and they didn't progress after they've lost to the eventual champion Toronto 3 years ago. On the contrary, this year was a total fluke, Joel got injured and then Ben choking against the Hawks and then all the blame was put to him that's why he has no longer a relationship to anyone in Philly and wanted to be traded this season. Sixers should be looking at other options for Joel now. And it seems that they believed on "the process" as they've sign him for a bigger contract. It's going to be Joel + Huh whoever they trade Simmons to.

They choose Embiid between these two stars, and for me it's really the right decision.

Letting Simmons go and allow another good star to work with him. If the boy really wanted to go, then let it be.
I don't see any further development with this issue.

Seems that Sixers is willing to bench him till another offer from another team that gives them some decent
equality with their assets. Still waiting to where this drama will proceed.


I think if not for the Simmons event, Joel and Ben can still work it for the 76ers. Unfortunately, what happened has happened and we can't bring back the clock. So yeah, better to trade Simmons and build another player around Joel to make the teams great again.

For sure they can find a suitable replacement for Ben so that both party can move one.

I speculate that the drama will over at least before the start of the new season.
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September 29, 2021, 04:38:25 AM
He has to improve that too because he can't take for granted this big responsibility of him, he has the height and the physicality, so he just has to work harder and continue aiming for improvement every season.

His 2nd season with the Nuggets had really improved, so probably that's their basis, and by the way, speaking of young, he is only 22 years old, so more seasons for him if he remains healthy and probably a bigger contract if he improves well.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/portemi01.html

9.3 PTS in 2019-2020 then jumped to 19 PTS last season, probably the injury of Murray gives him more playing time to show his talent.

MPJ has got a huge structure of 2.08 meters. And as he is young, he has a lot of time ahead for him to improve. Already he has the height advantage, now if he can train hard and get his skills in the top tier level, he can be an asset for this team for the long term. Having stats like 19 points a game and 40% 3 points shooting is more than average and with that height, he can easily bag some rebounds and be a threat defensively.

He has a KD like structure, very long and tall and he can really used it to his advantage. I agree that when Murray got injured, he was given that time to shine and so he did. So he might have gain a lot of confidence in the playoffs and hopefully it will carry on next season or even if Jamal is back on the Denver line up. They are going to be very dangerous, we all know how good Jokic's passing ability is, and Murray and Porter Jr can benefit and hit outside J and an assists coming from the MVP.
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September 29, 2021, 01:31:13 AM
I'm not a huge Gordon fan, and honestly don't know how he fits in there.  Their team will run around Jamal, joker and mjp.  He has flashes of excitement but his game is tough to play around.  He should lock up the defense, rebounding and alley oop role.  Any other time with the ball isn't a plus for the team.
And that's what he did for that 35 games that he played. He didn't really handle the ball much but just concentrated on defensive and offensive rebounds or hustling the player he is up against.
I think the Nuggets management already made it clear about his role and last year was already a success since they still managed to be in the playoffs but was just up against a stronger Phoenix Suns. This year though will be a higher expectation for them to be on the Finals after they built their chemistry last season.

I agree, he become a defensive player when he moved to Nuggets. So that was his role and it seems very effective for him. He can score, no doubt about it, but he has evolved, he can still give us flashes of his dunking skills. Nevertheless he is now their defensive player and guarding the opposing teams main offensive weapon. So it's a good progress for him, that's why he was given a good contract by the Nuggets management.
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September 29, 2021, 12:34:17 AM
Does the Los Angeles Lakers this year have really a chance to dominate the league with this team? there's no doubt that they are one of the strong teams in the NBA this year but if they don't maintain a healthy body throughout the season then they might end up like how they were last season even though they have players like Westbrook in their roosters right now because the other team has some strong roosters too.



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I also believe the current Los Angeles Lakers team have great chances to reach the finals this season!

With this potential line up, we're seeing the Lakers will go (full force) (or nearly so).

Well, I don't know... would it be advantageous to change Ariza? (is he playing well?)
In my opinion, I believe they could change Ariza, put Melo (SF) maybe.
Or, LeBron (SF), AD (PF) and DeAndre Jordan or Dwight Howard (C), well I don't know if everyone is 100% healthy.

Another point I would like to highlight is, I think there are great chances that Frank Vogel will make several changes during the game to find what could be the "best lineup" for LA.
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September 28, 2021, 10:30:26 PM
I'm not a huge Gordon fan, and honestly don't know how he fits in there.  Their team will run around Jamal, joker and mjp.  He has flashes of excitement but his game is tough to play around.  He should lock up the defense, rebounding and alley oop role.  Any other time with the ball isn't a plus for the team.
And that's what he did for that 35 games that he played. He didn't really handle the ball much but just concentrated on defensive and offensive rebounds or hustling the player he is up against.
I think the Nuggets management already made it clear about his role and last year was already a success since they still managed to be in the playoffs but was just up against a stronger Phoenix Suns. This year though will be a higher expectation for them to be on the Finals after they built their chemistry last season.
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September 28, 2021, 09:31:04 PM
Does the Los Angeles Lakers this year have really a chance to dominate the league with this team? there's no doubt that they are one of the strong teams in the NBA this year but if they don't maintain a healthy body throughout the season then they might end up like how they were last season even though they have players like Westbrook in their roosters right now because the other team has some strong roosters too.



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September 28, 2021, 07:39:19 PM

Between Murray- MPJ - Gordon - Jokic they have 4 great players that can play together for a very long time. I believe that they are done building the team and from now on they are just looking for ring chasers at this point. Look at Lakers and Nets, they got so many old but very good players, do you think those players went there because they liked playing there, or liked the rosters, or liked the staff they are not there because they like stuff, they went there because they want a ring and they want to be in a team with a good chance to win a ring.

Denver has the chance to convince players that could go there, it will definitely be possible to get players who will think Nuggets has that chance and rest of the team is settled already so I doubt they would have trouble being a contending team.

I also see the same. Nuggets are making sure that the core stars will blend together and build a good chemistry. Stats may tell that all four stars are good in both offense and defense if they will jive together. The chance of winning is very high. The good thing with them they are still on young and very capable of adjusting with what the types of opponents they are facing, they can run or can set a good offense.

It's more on how the coach will use them either to let them play together or by batches, though they are expected to play when pressures are there. These are good combo from inside and outside attacks.
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September 28, 2021, 07:33:58 PM
Is there any news out there now that starters will not play? Since it was a Pre-Season opening, I think starters will play but for just limited minutes as always.

Since it's the Lakers and Nets, if things got heated up and the game is close, I'm sure they will take the game seriously as they are pumped. Hope even for limited minutes, both teams will unleash their superstars. A 15 to 20 minutes playing time for their superstars should be ok. Smiley
wow, I'm sorry, I expressed myself wrong.
I meant in the sense that both the Lakers and Nets are not going to put in their main squad for this game, for example the allstar players are probably not going to play the entire game, they're probably going to play a few minutes and they're going to put in the reserves to play as well.

I think it's not very plausible to put the best players under this "pressure", because it's still the beginning of the season and they have a good way to go during this NBA season.
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September 28, 2021, 06:51:59 PM
Between Murray- MPJ - Gordon - Jokic they have 4 great players that can play together for a very long time.

Exactly. When reading about Big three. I was thinking this exactly. Nuggets have big four.  Aaron Gordon played only 35 games last year in Denver. Players need some time to adapt to play on their best level.

I'm not a huge Gordon fan, and honestly don't know how he fits in there.  Their team will run around Jamal, joker and mjp.  He has flashes of excitement but his game is tough to play around.  He should lock up the defense, rebounding and alley oop role.  Any other time with the ball isn't a plus for the team.
I'm optimistic he will fit with the Nuggets because he got a contract extension and with the action of the Nuggets, they believe that Gordon will be able to deliver, and for sure they will not waste the talent of Gordon which does not only do well in offense but most especially to their defense.

I mean I get why Denver did it but that doesn't mean he will fit in with the team.  Plenty of people have gotten big long contracts from teams and it didn't work.  I don't know maybe I'm looking at it wrong but to me his skillet is better suited for a half court slow it down grind it out team where this Denver team has a nice flow to it.  Just seems like the odd man out to me.

I guess the first season he played with the Nuggets though not complete would already give him a lesson on how to be effective on his rule. The coming season is vital to determine if he really suits ot the team, and if he made some big contribution, then they will be a championship this season though we have the Lakers and the Nets who are obviously the heavy favorites.

I wouldn't call them the heavy favorites although most do.  The Lakers are so old the end of the season they will be either gassed or with some sort of injury.  And meshing so many players together.  I don't know seems they are set up to fail.  And the Bucks have something to say about the Nets.  One of them will be injured or away from the team for something. 
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September 28, 2021, 06:38:12 PM
Between Murray- MPJ - Gordon - Jokic they have 4 great players that can play together for a very long time.

Exactly. When reading about Big three. I was thinking this exactly. Nuggets have big four.  Aaron Gordon played only 35 games last year in Denver. Players need some time to adapt to play on their best level.

I'm not a huge Gordon fan, and honestly don't know how he fits in there.  Their team will run around Jamal, joker and mjp.  He has flashes of excitement but his game is tough to play around.  He should lock up the defense, rebounding and alley oop role.  Any other time with the ball isn't a plus for the team.

MPJ has shown flashes of potential for sure, that's undeniable.

But is he worth the money that he's getting? Absolutely fat no.

I think that perhaps $100M over 4 years would be considered overpaid, even. I'd only be comfortable paying him around $20M per year for his productivity on the court.
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