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Quote from: Distinctin on September 26, 2021, 05:43:03 AM

I'm just curious, what is the religion of Wiggins? as honestly, I don't know any religion that prohibits its people to get vaccinated.

I am kind of intrigued too. I know some religions do have rules with blood transfusion but I haven't heard about needles and putting liquid in their body.
Besides, that needle will be thrown afterward, it's a one-time usage.

Quote from: chaser15 on September 26, 2021, 06:46:20 PM

NBA already cleared that it's not about the religion. But regardless, Wiggins should know that there will be something like this that will happen when he joined the league that even he disagree with something, he needs to comply. It's the job they take. Not just him, but I doubt all people the same with his religion are not having the same thinking and possibly, got vaccinated now.

I think Wiggins cannot provide the right reasoning to be exempted in this vaccination process that is why his claim was denied.
Maybe if he could stretch the information, put in details why or show what is in their Bible then management may find a way to make it work in a different method.

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If I understand it correctly, the vaccine would only increase your immune system fighting the virus, and these players are fit enough that they can still be healthy even if they got infected. When you are vaccinated, you will still be infected, so I understand their position, but if the rules will be that strict, I don't know how they would end this to serve those who prefer not to get vaccinated.

Local rule, not NBA rule. NBA is following a local rule. Wiggins and Irving won't be able to play at their home games because of that rule.

But on other matches, they can play as other states allowed it. Just unfortunate that teams where Wiggins and Irving is playing mandates vaccine for sports-related activities. I don't know if these 2 will comply. If they don't they will miss half of their team scheduled games.

True, 90% of NBA players are vaccinated as what other media states, and the rest, Wiggins and Irving are being highlighted right now. So if they don't take the vaccinate, they will surely missed half of the game. They can be tested every game and have to check with NBA regarding this close contact. I think for now that will be the solution for this two, however, it will definitely cost them money. So regardless what is their reasons for not taking the vaccine, the decision lies on them. Money lost vs their religious belief or any other reasons.

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Quote from: Distinctin on September 26, 2021, 05:43:03 AM

Well, he has no choice, he is in the NBA to play and make money and he has to get vaccinated if he wants to play.

I'm just curious, what is the religion of Wiggins? as honestly, I don't know any religion that prohibits its people to get vaccinated.

NBA already cleared that it's not about the religion. But regardless, Wiggins should know that there will be something like this that will happen when he joined the league that even he disagree with something, he needs to comply. It's the job they take. Not just him, but I doubt all people the same with his religion are not having the same thinking and possibly, got vaccinated now.

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Quote from: stadus on September 26, 2021, 04:49:00 PM

If I understand it correctly, the vaccine would only increase your immune system fighting the virus, and these players are fit enough that they can still be healthy even if they got infected. When you are vaccinated, you will still be infected, so I understand their position, but if the rules will be that strict, I don't know how they would end this to serve those who prefer not to get vaccinated.

Local rule, not NBA rule. NBA is following a local rule. Wiggins and Irving won't be able to play at their home games because of that rule.

But on other matches, they can play as other states allowed it. Just unfortunate that teams where Wiggins and Irving is playing mandates vaccine for sports-related activities. I don't know if these 2 will comply. If they don't they will miss half of their team scheduled games.

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Quote from: stadus on September 26, 2021, 04:49:00 PM

If I understand it correctly, the vaccine would only increase your immune system fighting the virus, and these players are fit enough that they can still be healthy even if they got infected. When you are vaccinated, you will still be infected, so I understand their position, but if the rules will be that strict, I don't know how they would end this to serve those who prefer not to get vaccinated.

This is San Francisco's requirement, and I doubt that they will change it. However, I think that testing unvaccinated players before every game could be a solution in this situation. By the way, I also heard that if Wiggins is not fully vaccinated within the next 20 days, then he won't even be able to work out at Chase Center.

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I do not see Simmons get out of this and become a better player. Dude has been in the league for years now and still fears shooting threes, in an era where everyone is taking threes. His teammate, Joel Embiid is a big big center, dude is huge, and he takes more threes than Ben Simmons.

I doubt that he would suddenly change his mind and start shooting after he is traded. Don't get me wrong you do not have to shoot threes to be a great player, not like Giannis takes awful lot of threes however you need to have the confidence enough to shoot threes if you are given super empty shots by the other team, other teams literally do not even cover him, or at least start playing PF and a little bit more inside instead of starting from out and trying to get in. His defense is great but his offense became nothing like people expected and his lack of even trying to shoot shows how he is not even willing to improve himself.

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I'm pretty sure that he knows about the virus and the lockdown situation and the bubble last year. But he is playing the religion card here, so what can we do? If he chooses to ignore the NBA then this will be another situation and drama prior to the start of the season. So I would say that this is really a stupid move from Wiggins, this virus knows no boundaries and worst he can be infected and he can be a carrier in the NBA wherein they are trying to clear and be back to "normal".

You cannot make these kinds of decisions in these crucial deadly times. I feel that he should be penalized for this type of conduct. He is both risking his, his teammates, and his organization's matches and health in jeopardy. This cannot happen. Otherwise, he gets vaccinated, the Warriors won't play him from what I'm understanding and that will hamper their gameplay every week. He has been a very consistent SF for the Warriors by scoring about 19 points a game and getting 5 rebounds a game last season. Not to forget about the 2.4 assists he provided on average per game. Let's see what decisions the management takes after this.

The decision is already final, there's a rule and there's no exemption to the rule, either he gets vaccinated or he is not allowed to play, and if he will not play, he would not get paid and it will have a big effect on the performance of the team knowing that Klay Thompson is still not available until December this year per report.

The players union has gotten involved and said no to a vaccine mandate. This situation could get a lot bigger than people think very quickly. Right now Wiggins and Irving are taking the heat, but I’m sure there are dozens if not hundreds of other NBA players who aren’t vaccinated and don’t plan to be. Considering they have likely a 0% risk of dying from covid, I understand their position. I wouldn’t take it either. Common sense is starting to prevail and people have had enough. Even the democrats are getting sick of this level of sought control.

If I understand it correctly, the vaccine would only increase your immune system fighting the virus, and these players are fit enough that they can still be healthy even if they got infected. When you are vaccinated, you will still be infected, so I understand their position, but if the rules will be that strict, I don't know how they would end this to serve those who prefer not to get vaccinated.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 26, 2021, 03:39:51 PM

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I'm pretty sure that he knows about the virus and the lockdown situation and the bubble last year. But he is playing the religion card here, so what can we do? If he chooses to ignore the NBA then this will be another situation and drama prior to the start of the season. So I would say that this is really a stupid move from Wiggins, this virus knows no boundaries and worst he can be infected and he can be a carrier in the NBA wherein they are trying to clear and be back to "normal".

You cannot make these kinds of decisions in these crucial deadly times. I feel that he should be penalized for this type of conduct. He is both risking his, his teammates, and his organization's matches and health in jeopardy. This cannot happen. Otherwise, he gets vaccinated, the Warriors won't play him from what I'm understanding and that will hamper their gameplay every week. He has been a very consistent SF for the Warriors by scoring about 19 points a game and getting 5 rebounds a game last season. Not to forget about the 2.4 assists he provided on average per game. Let's see what decisions the management takes after this.

The decision is already final, there's a rule and there's no exemption to the rule, either he gets vaccinated or he is not allowed to play, and if he will not play, he would not get paid and it will have a big effect on the performance of the team knowing that Klay Thompson is still not available until December this year per report.

The players union has gotten involved and said no to a vaccine mandate. This situation could get a lot bigger than people think very quickly. Right now Wiggins and Irving are taking the heat, but I’m sure there are dozens if not hundreds of other NBA players who aren’t vaccinated and don’t plan to be. Considering they have likely a 0% risk of dying from covid, I understand their position. I wouldn’t take it either. Common sense is starting to prevail and people have had enough. Even the democrats are getting sick of this level of sought control.

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Quote from: Jating on September 26, 2021, 12:06:04 PM

I'm pretty sure that he knows about the virus and the lockdown situation and the bubble last year. But he is playing the religion card here, so what can we do? If he chooses to ignore the NBA then this will be another situation and drama prior to the start of the season. So I would say that this is really a stupid move from Wiggins, this virus knows no boundaries and worst he can be infected and he can be a carrier in the NBA wherein they are trying to clear and be back to "normal".

You cannot make these kinds of decisions in these crucial deadly times. I feel that he should be penalized for this type of conduct. He is both risking his, his teammates, and his organization's matches and health in jeopardy. This cannot happen. Otherwise, he gets vaccinated, the Warriors won't play him from what I'm understanding and that will hamper their gameplay every week. He has been a very consistent SF for the Warriors by scoring about 19 points a game and getting 5 rebounds a game last season. Not to forget about the 2.4 assists he provided on average per game. Let's see what decisions the management takes after this.

The decision is already final, there's a rule and there's no exemption to the rule, either he gets vaccinated or he is not allowed to play, and if he will not play, he would not get paid and it will have a big effect on the performance of the team knowing that Klay Thompson is still not available until December this year per report.

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Quote from: Jating on September 26, 2021, 12:06:04 PM

I'm pretty sure that he knows about the virus and the lockdown situation and the bubble last year. But he is playing the religion card here, so what can we do? If he chooses to ignore the NBA then this will be another situation and drama prior to the start of the season. So I would say that this is really a stupid move from Wiggins, this virus knows no boundaries and worst he can be infected and he can be a carrier in the NBA wherein they are trying to clear and be back to "normal".

You cannot make these kinds of decisions in these crucial deadly times. I feel that he should be penalized for this type of conduct. He is both risking his, his teammates, and his organization's matches and health in jeopardy. This cannot happen. Otherwise, he gets vaccinated, the Warriors won't play him from what I'm understanding and that will hamper their gameplay every week. He has been a very consistent SF for the Warriors by scoring about 19 points a game and getting 5 rebounds a game last season. Not to forget about the 2.4 assists he provided on average per game. Let's see what decisions the management takes after this.

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And with Wiggins refusal to get vaccinated, he has given the Warriors every reason to trade him for Ben Simmons? That scenario is not that far, however, Sixers will not inherit the problem so everything now is up to Wiggins. Not a good choice to refuse because he will obviously loss his multi dollar salary and this could be a breach of contract. His agent better convince him before the start of the new season which if I'm not mistaken is less than a month from now.

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Bad news for Andrew Wiggins but good news for the Warriors and its fans.
NBA denies Andrew Wiggins' request for religious exemption from vaccination

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The NBA has denied Andrew Wiggins’ request for a vaccination exemption, leaving the Golden State Warriors swingman ineligible to play home games until he meets San Francisco’s vaccination requirement.

So what would happen now, will he commit a sin to play with the team, or he will give up the team for his faith?

A very tough question, is he going to give up a million dollar deal for the sake of his religious practices?
I don't think that he can refuse this rule as he might bring everyone at risk, he can no longer be accepted to play in any game without taking the shot, he needs to comply in order to continue playing and enjoying the benefits being given to him by GSW.

Actually, this is a dumb decision from Wiggins. I didn't hear what he stated about not getting vaccinated but why would he not want to take the vaccine? Religion never prevents medical treatment.
Does he not know about the coronavirus & lockdown situation? Also, he won't be able to play unless he gets vaccinated. This would badly impact the Warriors season and I hope his teammate and family will be able to convince him to take the vaccine. All I want to say is a pretty dumb decision from him.

I'm pretty sure that he knows about the virus and the lockdown situation and the bubble last year. But he is playing the religion card here, so what can we do? If he chooses to ignore the NBA then this will be another situation and drama prior to the start of the season. So I would say that this is really a stupid move from Wiggins, this virus knows no boundaries and worst he can be infected and he can be a carrier in the NBA wherein they are trying to clear and be back to "normal".

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Quote from: Pamadar on September 26, 2021, 09:13:42 AM

Quote from: Questat on September 26, 2021, 04:03:46 AM

Bad news for Andrew Wiggins but good news for the Warriors and its fans.
NBA denies Andrew Wiggins' request for religious exemption from vaccination

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The NBA has denied Andrew Wiggins’ request for a vaccination exemption, leaving the Golden State Warriors swingman ineligible to play home games until he meets San Francisco’s vaccination requirement.

So what would happen now, will he commit a sin to play with the team, or he will give up the team for his faith?

A very tough question, is he going to give up a million dollar deal for the sake of his religious practices?
I don't think that he can refuse this rule as he might bring everyone at risk, he can no longer be accepted to play in any game without taking the shot, he needs to comply in order to continue playing and enjoying the benefits being given to him by GSW.

Actually, this is a dumb decision from Wiggins. I didn't hear what he stated about not getting vaccinated but why would he not want to take the vaccine? Religion never prevents medical treatment.
Does he not know about the coronavirus & lockdown situation? Also, he won't be able to play unless he gets vaccinated. This would badly impact the Warriors season and I hope his teammate and family will be able to convince him to take the vaccine. All I want to say is a pretty dumb decision from him.

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Quote from: Questat on September 26, 2021, 04:03:46 AM

Bad news for Andrew Wiggins but good news for the Warriors and its fans.

NBA denies Andrew Wiggins' request for religious exemption from vaccination

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The NBA has denied Andrew Wiggins’ request for a vaccination exemption, leaving the Golden State Warriors swingman ineligible to play home games until he meets San Francisco’s vaccination requirement.

So what would happen now, will he commit a sin to play with the team, or he will give up the team for his faith?

A very tough question, is he going to give up a million dollar deal for the sake of his religious practices?

I don't think that he can refuse this rule as he might bring everyone at risk, he can no longer be accepted to play in any game without taking the shot, he needs to comply in order to continue playing and enjoying the benefits being given to him by GSW.

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What I hope for Simmons is to comeback stronger, of course with the different team. So, he could have his revenge after a lot of criticism in Philly.
Simmons is a great player, low shooting percentage was his only issue. I know he can work it out especially in this trying times for him this could be a good motivation to improve his game in the next team he's playing.
D*mn, I just love seeing players getting their revenge after being roughly criticized.

He's a good player and watching those videos spreading through social media where he's playing alongside with other stars,

It seems that he's taking long-range shots and trying to improve his confidence. Simmons is a good player and still young, everything still learnable and if he goes to focus, who knows how good he might turn after the hard work to work things out.

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He maybe won't be forced to get vaccinated but it will affect the team's performance as he has to sit in home games according to the report.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/09/23/warriors-wiggins-reportedly-wont-get-vaccinated-and-so-may-miss-all-home-nba-games/?sh=68cafee024ae

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Golden State Warriors forward Andrew Wiggins, the team’s second-leading scorer last season, has remained steadfast in his refusal to get vaccinated, according to multiple published reports, a decision that could have a significant impact on the Warriors team, as unvaccinated players could be forced to sit out home games due to local vaccine-related regulations.

He is putting the GSW season at risk of losing games because without him, they will not be complete, so his decision could be detrimental to the team.

That is the difficult part. Do you know why NBA rejected Wiggins request? Was he caught lying about the religious reason? The reason is still unclear to me.
I also don't understand Wiggins asking for an exemption and insisting until now when he clearly said he may get a shot when he's forced to do so. The NBA isn't saying it directly but they are actually forcing him to be vaccinated.

It's because of the safety protocols being put into place by the NBA since last year. There are several players being caught violating this protocols and have been suspended or fine if I'm not mistaken. So Wiggins case this is a violation of NBA protocols. Yes, it's a subtle way for NBA to tell Wiggins to get vaccinated or else he can't play, simply as that.

^^ This has to be one of the weird decisions I have seen. I don't know if he doesn't want to get vaccinated because of his religious values or something. I hardly know any religion that would prevent doing so. Also, you have to see the stats, non-vaccinated people are getting affected by COVID more than vaccinated people. And I will also respect the Warriors' decision if they make him sit out for games until he gets vaccinated because surely they won't want their other player to be infected by him right? Hope he will change his mind.

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He maybe won't be forced to get vaccinated but it will affect the team's performance as he has to sit in home games according to the report.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/09/23/warriors-wiggins-reportedly-wont-get-vaccinated-and-so-may-miss-all-home-nba-games/?sh=68cafee024ae

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Golden State Warriors forward Andrew Wiggins, the team’s second-leading scorer last season, has remained steadfast in his refusal to get vaccinated, according to multiple published reports, a decision that could have a significant impact on the Warriors team, as unvaccinated players could be forced to sit out home games due to local vaccine-related regulations.

He is putting the GSW season at risk of losing games because without him, they will not be complete, so his decision could be detrimental to the team.

That is the difficult part. Do you know why NBA rejected Wiggins request? Was he caught lying about the religious reason? The reason is still unclear to me.

I also don't understand Wiggins asking for an exemption and insisting until now when he clearly said he may get a shot when he's forced to do so. The NBA isn't saying it directly but they are actually forcing him to be vaccinated.

It's because of the safety protocols being put into place by the NBA since last year. There are several players being caught violating this protocols and have been suspended or fine if I'm not mistaken. So Wiggins case this is a violation of NBA protocols.

Yes, it's a subtle way for NBA to tell Wiggins to get vaccinated or else he can't play, simply as that.

Well, he has no choice, he is in the NBA to play and make money and he has to get vaccinated if he wants to play.

I'm just curious, what is the religion of Wiggins? as honestly, I don't know any religion that prohibits its people to get vaccinated.

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hey guys,
Does anyone have any updates about Klay Thompson comeback?
I read on a website that the Warriors said that Klay is making progress. Does anyone speculate when he will actually come back to play?

Since the 2019 finals, Thompson hasn't played any official games, I confess that's a long time hasn't playing, but I hope he has an excellent comeback

Also interested in the return of Klay and I made some research regarding this and below was what I found. Seems that we still can't see him play this year but the good thing is he is making good progress and we can expect him to be back in the first quarter next year.

Thanks for your feedback, guys!

Seriously, he'll probably be back in the first quarter of 2022?
I believe it's a long time, I don't know what Klay's real situation is like, but I believe in my opinion that he can come back before March 1st, maybe he can come back in January, well, I don't know for sure, it's just a guess on my part.

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Quote from: gagux123 on September 25, 2021, 03:41:55 AM

hey guys,
Does anyone have any updates about Klay Thompson comeback?
I read on a website that the Warriors said that Klay is making progress. Does anyone speculate when he will actually come back to play?

Since the 2019 finals, Thompson hasn't played any official games, I confess that's a long time hasn't playing, but I hope he has an excellent comeback

Probably December - January. I don't think they will rush this now and let another accident happen just like last year. It will be better if they will put him in at his best health rather than looking for an early win. Steph and Green could somehow create some wins just to avoid being in the last seed of WCF.

You said an interesting point, it is preferable that Klay comes back when he is 100% healthy, or something close to that.
The Warriors cannot anticipate Thompson's return, because if he returns early and is injured, the entire team could suffer from his absence again.

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Quote from: Yogee on September 25, 2021, 01:00:11 PM

Quote from: mirakal on September 25, 2021, 12:42:25 PM

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He maybe won't be forced to get vaccinated but it will affect the team's performance as he has to sit in home games according to the report.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/09/23/warriors-wiggins-reportedly-wont-get-vaccinated-and-so-may-miss-all-home-nba-games/?sh=68cafee024ae

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Golden State Warriors forward Andrew Wiggins, the team’s second-leading scorer last season, has remained steadfast in his refusal to get vaccinated, according to multiple published reports, a decision that could have a significant impact on the Warriors team, as unvaccinated players could be forced to sit out home games due to local vaccine-related regulations.

He is putting the GSW season at risk of losing games because without him, they will not be complete, so his decision could be detrimental to the team.

That is the difficult part. Do you know why NBA rejected Wiggins request? Was he caught lying about the religious reason? The reason is still unclear to me.

I also don't understand Wiggins asking for an exemption and insisting until now when he clearly said he may get a shot when he's forced to do so. The NBA isn't saying it directly but they are actually forcing him to be vaccinated.

It's because of the safety protocols being put into place by the NBA since last year. There are several players being caught violating this protocols and have been suspended or fine if I'm not mistaken. So Wiggins case this is a violation of NBA protocols.

Yes, it's a subtle way for NBA to tell Wiggins to get vaccinated or else he can't play, simply as that.

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Bad news for Andrew Wiggins but good news for the Warriors and its fans.

NBA denies Andrew Wiggins' request for religious exemption from vaccination

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The NBA has denied Andrew Wiggins’ request for a vaccination exemption, leaving the Golden State Warriors swingman ineligible to play home games until he meets San Francisco’s vaccination requirement.

So what would happen now, will he commit a sin to play with the team, or he will give up the team for his faith?

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Ben Simmons rejected his teammates offer to fly to California and meet to discuss his desire to be traded to a different team. They're saying he's "checked out" from the ball club and has no desire to have anything to do with the 76ers or his old teammates. This seems like a last ditch effort to get him to come back, and I don't see them making any more efforts at this point.

Simmons has no intention to play with the team anymore after hearing a lot of criticism, so he would just choose to keep quiet and wait until the trade is realized. I hope he will be traded soon so this issue will be over and both teams would start blending with their new players.

What I hope for Simmons is to comeback stronger, of course with the different team. So, he could have his revenge after a lot of criticism in Philly.
Simmons is a great player, low shooting percentage was his only issue. I know he can work it out especially in this trying times for him this could be a good motivation to improve his game in the next team he's playing.
D*mn, I just love seeing players getting their revenge after being roughly criticized.

Of course, he can do that, but for now, he has to be traded to the other team so he can start training and build chemistry. It's also important that he will be in a playoff team so his new team could face the 76ers in the playoffs and that time he will get sweet revenge.

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